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Can A Gen Z NFL Rookie Make Minivans Cool Again?

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Anyone born after the 1900s is usually completely against anything the elders of Gen X and Gen Y (or Millennials, whatever) are in favor of. The minivan, however, is the one thing that seems to be a multigenerational pariah, even though it tends to check the boxes under the “need” column for car buyers. You know, things like comfort, cargo room, number of seats, charging ports, etc. Dillon Gabriel, a 24-year-old NFL rookie, is looking to change that image as the new ambassador of an oldie but goodie, the Chrysler Pacifica. 

Not gonna lie, I chuckled while typing that last sentence. It just hits different. A standout quarterback, Gabriel broke NCAA football records and is second in all-time passing yards. He wrapped up his college career by finishing third in voting for the prestigious Heisman Trophy, then heard his name called during this year’s NFL Draft. 

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Okay, so it was the Cleveland Browns who rang, but Gabriel was drafted nonetheless. With his sporting credentials, you’d think he’d have his pick of partnerships, especially in automotive. Yet Gabriel walked past the performance cars, beefy trucks, and shiny SUVs. He also didn’t linger on the bougie luxury marques. 

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Instead, he chose the most sensible family vehicle out there and signed a deal to rep the Pacifica. Last playing for the Oregon Ducks, Gabriel actually drove around town in, you guessed it, a Chrysler. As reported by Browns fansite, Dawg Pound Daily:

Although generally made for families with children, Gabriel drove a Chrysler Pacifica minivan in Eugene, Oregon, instead of a flashy sports car. He would use this car to deliver things to practice or to get a whole batch of teammates together so they could spend time during long commutes.

Prioritizing camaraderie and experiences over material goods? Okay, now he’s sounding like a Gen Zer. But it’s a smart move as minivans are having a banner sales year so far. During the second quarter, the Toyota Sienna enjoyed an eye-opening 61% year-over-year increase, with the Kia Carnival right behind with a 57% jump. The Honda Odyssey also enjoyed a YOY bump of 28%.

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The Pacifica, however, was the only one in the segment to experience a sales slide. But that’s okay. Although not as recently refreshed as its competitors, the Pacifica was the 2024 sales champ as the only minivan to sell in six figures. Perhaps there’ll be a comeback in the second half?

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NFL rookie quarterback Dillon Gabriel signs endorsement deal with Chrysler brand. Photo: Stellantis

During a guest appearance on the Keep It Aloha podcast, Gabriel said his college ride was a leased Pacifica hybrid, which he would fuel up about every three weeks. Despite the fact that “people will clown you,” to Gabriel, the soccer mom status symbol passed his vibe check:

“The minivan was fire. People don’t understand, the minivan’s legit. Space. It’s efficient…it’s a great decision.”

Not as great as having to play pro football in Cleveland. But, hey, at least Gabriel’s new minivan can comfortably fit all the QBs currently on the Browns’ roster (which is five for those of you who don’t follow the handegg league). Hmm, since the Pacifica can seat up to eight, there might even be room for Deshaun Watson’s notoriously bloated contract!

Jokes aside, though, as a fellow member of Team Minivan, I wholeheartedly agree with Gabriel. Perhaps he can normalize the term “minivan enthusiast” and make it an appealing car choice to everyone. Now that would be fire.

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Curtis Loew
Curtis Loew
4 hours ago

I got one of these as a rental once. It’s honestly good. Good visibilty, comfortable seating, good power and lots of bells and whistles. I liked to drive it, but would not own one because of all the reliability issues Chrysler has.

Otter
Otter
5 hours ago

Minivan isn’t always the answer, but if your life is strollers or more than two kids, or a ton of luggage AND people, it’s the right answer. Let’s face it, even though we don’t have kids, our Fit is basically a minivan for two.

Minivanlife
Minivanlife
3 hours ago
Reply to  Otter

As someone who started with a Fit, then went minivan after kid #2, I endorse this message.

Ben
Ben
5 hours ago

As a former unusually tall child (and current unusually tall adult), I liked vans even when they weren’t cool. Where do I turn in my massive hipster cred for a new Pacifica? 😉

Flint Fredstone
Flint Fredstone
5 hours ago

It’s the price, stupid. In 2014 they were selling the Grand Caravan SXT (full fold flat seats) in the Toronto area for just over $21,000 in lowly Canadian dollars. Now the Pacifica starts at C$55,000, or the Grand Caravan for C$48,995. Neither inflation nor feature additions justify that price increase. Don’t expect a showroom line-up any time soon.

Flint Fredstone
Flint Fredstone
5 hours ago

Just re-read. To be sure: that “stupid” is directed at Chrysler, not Beverly!

JDE
JDE
4 hours ago

Voyager LX to the rescue. Starts around $42K. And before you complain the Kia Carnival Starts at $38K so if you think there is a viable option for any 7 passenger, buy it.

World24
World24
4 hours ago
Reply to  JDE

The new Voyagers are Grand Caravans in Canada.

Bob the Hobo
Bob the Hobo
5 hours ago

This is Mazda’s cue to bring back the Mazda5 with the new Inline 6.

Abdominal Snoman
Abdominal Snoman
4 hours ago
Reply to  Bob the Hobo

Shockingly fun car to drive especially with the manual, but have to admit it had the worst sounding engine I’ve ever experienced. I wish I could have convinced my friend to do at least something like add a cold air intake that would likely cost him power just to make it sound less annoying.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
6 hours ago

Two words:

SRT Minivan

Idk why nobody has done this. Minivans already out perform SUVs on pavement, most of the time. Just throw in nice suspension, better exhaust, and fluff up the engine a bit. Could even throw in some electronics like ‘drift mode’ with software that only lets it step out so far.

The world needs performance minivans already.

BOSdriver
BOSdriver
6 hours ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

Time to go find a MB R-series 63 AMG

Abdominal Snoman
Abdominal Snoman
4 hours ago
Reply to  BOSdriver

… or 3, you’ll need the spare parts. Damn are they cheap though, I’ve thought of buying one before just to pull the drivetrain.

UnseenCat
UnseenCat
5 hours ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

There was an R/T version of the Dodge Grand Caravan. It’s my wife’s daily driver. Gets the hell out of its own way and can surprise the cr@p out of annoying “I’m not going to let a minivan in front of me” drivers. And to cope with the acceleration, plus the safety factor for a vehicle more likely to be loaded with people or stuff, has brakes pulled from the Viper’s parts bin that will stand it on its nose. (Do not leave loose objects unsecured in the van…)

JDE
JDE
3 hours ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

It is called a Durango SRT. It just lacks the sliding rear doors and fold flat seats, but otherwise, it smacks the bells of a minivan inside.

Jeremy Aber
Jeremy Aber
6 hours ago

He’s 100% correct, minivans are the best all-around vehicles! No, I will not be taking questions.

JDE
JDE
3 hours ago
Reply to  Jeremy Aber

I think maybe the main issue I have is so few have AWD options.

J G
J G
7 hours ago

“bougie luxury marques” aka bourgeois. Has historically been used in reference to the middle and upper-middle class. Collectively, this class of people has been referred to as the “bourgeoisie,” becoming particularly popular with the rise of Marxist theory, which essentially uses the term bourgeoisie as an alternative to “capitalists.”

This minivan falls into “bougie” category, no working class family can afford to buy one new.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
7 hours ago

Typically, “cool” has been defined mainly as people who don’t care much about what people think of how they deviate from current norms or standards. Given the fact that SUV/CUVs are THE representation of current norms and standards, minivans are absolutely cooler than SUV/CUVs.

Similar to how the fact that John Cena drives a Civic-R and Christian Bale drives a 2003 Tacoma is infinitely cooler than an NFL rookie driving a new Porsche or Bentley.

Thancr
Thancr
7 hours ago

I’ve been cool since high school. Want to go skiing? I can drive! Want to go to a Brewers game? I can drive! You need help moving something? Sorry, the seats are too hard to get out…No, I did that too. Now the seat situation is much easier, just fold them into the floor.
My 2018 Pacifica Hybrid has everything I need including adaptive cruise control, heated and vented seats. Whenever we drive somewhere, we take everything we want to even if we might not need it.

Checkyourbeesfordrinks
Checkyourbeesfordrinks
6 hours ago
Reply to  Thancr

Same, this article confirms that I also was cool back in high school and college with my Chevy Astro van. The removable bench seats served as extra seating in my apartment.

Jb996
Jb996
5 hours ago

We made love in my Chevy Van
And that’s all right with me

Last edited 4 hours ago by Jb996
JDE
JDE
3 hours ago
Reply to  Thancr

do you really need adaptive Cruise Control? Seems like a thing we all lived without before. same with the fancy seats. Those are wants, not needs.

Angry Bob
Angry Bob
7 hours ago

I have a Honda Odyssey and it’s kind of ruining me as a car enthusiast. It’s just so good at what it’s designed for that I walk past my E39 and drive the minivan.

Ash78
Ash78
7 hours ago
Reply to  Angry Bob

My wife and I share the Odyssey and while it can be a little burly to drive everywhere, for every errand, it spoils you quickly.

I’m looking deeply into a MINI Countryman and, while it’s definitely big for a MINI (or a compact crossover in general), I can’t get over being able to bring everything I need on every trip — no thinking about cupholder sizes or storage space. It’s all just there when you need it, and we use it A LOT.

If there’s any downside, it’s that cleaning is a pain. Especially the interior. So much room.

Abdominal Snoman
Abdominal Snoman
4 hours ago
Reply to  Ash78

I don’t understand how the Mini is so HUGE when parked next to a 2007 outback yet has less room inside than a miata. (Seriously, you need to see the two parked side by side to see the hilarity in size discrepancies) At least it’ll be less cleaning.

Abdominal Snoman
Abdominal Snoman
4 hours ago

oops, I was thinking of the Clubman, not the Countryman. Have to admit I have no idea how these two compare.

Permanentwaif
Permanentwaif
7 hours ago

During a trip overseas I spent a lot of time being ferried around in the second row of a Toyota Alphard, my god that was absolute excellence. So I’m all for this minivan resurgence, even beyond its primary role as a family hauler. Give me a reliable swagger van any day I will take it and beg for more.

Livinglavidadidas
Livinglavidadidas
7 hours ago
Reply to  Permanentwaif

Just looked it up, goodness that’s an ugly maw. But I’m sure it’s a heck of a machine regardless.

Permanentwaif
Permanentwaif
7 hours ago

No dispute there, it’s not a looker. But riding in it you get the feel that this vehicle was specifically made for the second row passenger, everything else is secondary.

FormerTXJeepGuy
FormerTXJeepGuy
7 hours ago
Reply to  Permanentwaif

The Alphard is the best and I wish we had them here, solely so I could ride around in them any time I call an Uber.

JDE
JDE
3 hours ago
Reply to  Permanentwaif

I am waiting for the bull dog faced, mid engine Vans to come around again. Just saying.

NCbrit
NCbrit
8 hours ago

Minivans are the sweet spot in used vehicles. Being generally unwanted keeps the prices down. So you get a practical do everything vehicle at a decent price. I hope they don’t become cool.

Livinglavidadidas
Livinglavidadidas
7 hours ago
Reply to  NCbrit

I hope new ones become cool so I have more used inventory to shop. Not in a place for a new one at the moment but absolutely want one.

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
7 hours ago

I hope they become so cool that a 90% sized one like the Mazda MPV comes back.

Ash78
Ash78
7 hours ago
Reply to  NCbrit

Well, unless you start with “Hond-” or “Toyot-” because then you have to wait 2-3 years before it makes economic sense NOT to buy new.

This was true 10 years ago when we bought ours, and it’s probably even more accurate today with high financing rates (pro tip: Credit Unions are especially generous on their new car financing and will often go up to 3-4 years old and still call the vehicle “new”)

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
5 hours ago
Reply to  Ash78

The resale on the Sienna is downright ridiculous. Even a two generations old Sienna around here with 130k miles tends to go for close to 20k. There’s very little value to extract out of those sorts of prices.

The Odyssey isn’t quite as bad for deals, but you have to hunt for certain sweet spots on the depreciation curve for that one too.

NC Miata NA
NC Miata NA
8 hours ago

The Browns can’t get anything right at QB, they have a 40 year old father of 5 on their roster but the 24 year old rookie is the one with a minivan?

Livinglavidadidas
Livinglavidadidas
7 hours ago
Reply to  NC Miata NA

I’ve done some egregious speeding in a Town and Country and found out the governed top speed, let’s get Shedeur into one as well. That will generate way more attention.

10001010
10001010
8 hours ago

My last job forced me to serve 4 months in Cleveland, I’d rather live in that minivan than spend any more time in Cleveland.

No Kids, Just Bikes
No Kids, Just Bikes
8 hours ago
Reply to  10001010

I have close friends that left the Asheville area for Cleveland and love it there.

Abdominal Snoman
Abdominal Snoman
4 hours ago

Wow! How?

Saul Goodman
Saul Goodman
7 hours ago
Reply to  10001010

At least they aren’t Detroit.

(Still not Detroit!)

10001010
10001010
7 hours ago
Reply to  Saul Goodman

I heard that constantly while I was up there. After the first few weeks I started grumbling and complaining and everyone kept telling me about this mythical place called “Detroit” that was somehow worse than the Land o’Cleves. I say mythical because I can’t imagine any place being worse than Cleveland so I refuse to believe it exists.

Knowonelse
Knowonelse
7 hours ago
Reply to  Saul Goodman

Bumper stick I spotted:
Dayton, well you have to live somewhere!

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
8 hours ago

I like Gabriel a lot and see him being the next Drew Breeze with the right coach, scheme, and teammates. But that’s not Cleveland. He’ll be buried on the depth chart behind less talented QBs, so he’d better hang on to that Pacifica as he’s likely to be living in it, soon.

Taco Shackleford
Taco Shackleford
8 hours ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

Chris Farley always made me feel like living in a van down by the river was for Chicago QBs, but Cleveland’s track record with QBs definitely has higher probability of the Matt Foley trajectory.

Ash78
Ash78
8 hours ago

1990: All my Brownie friends are comin’ over tonight!

2025: Hank forced to clarify that he’s referring to Cleveland and not Girl Scouts.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
8 hours ago
Reply to  Ash78

When it comes to playing football, it would be understandable to confuse the Browns with Brownies.

Ash78
Ash78
8 hours ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

“Will Cleveland ever have a good team again?”

Nevermore, quoth The Ravens.

Angrycat Meowmeow
Angrycat Meowmeow
8 hours ago

There is no product I won’t buy as long as it’s endorsed by someone who can throw a ball good. Honestly I’m lucky it’s not also the official minivan of the NFL or I’d drop a day of PTO and run to my nearest CJDR dealer as fast as I could.

Jb996
Jb996
4 hours ago

Well, they’re famous, and on their way to being rich. So if course they know more about everything than you do.
I mean, rich people are just better people than you and I are; they’re obviously smarter, prettier, and more valuable.
You should be grateful that they deign to offer even a shared of their wisdom to us lesser folk; while letting you pay for the privilege.

(Not really directed at Dillon. Superficially he seems like a nice enough guy. Just a general rant about society these days.)

Chachi549
Chachi549
8 hours ago

I have a 2019 Odyssey and I love it. The other day I pulled up to a red light at the bottom of a hill. I lined up between but behind a Corolla and a Tacoma (not fast cars, but newer than mine) and let the car’s start /stop system turn it off. I gave it some gas to wake it up just before the light turned green. When I hit the gas (not even that hard) I did a burn-out and could feel when the tires grabbed pavement and sent the huge van careening up to 70 in short order. I giggled and laughed as my daughter wondered what I was up to on the way to daycare.

That van can dust most cars on the road, it rides like a giant couch, and it’s so quiet that you forget it’s on when it’s idling. It also handles like it doesn’t have a huge ass.

I love Rhonda

Jeff Elliott
Jeff Elliott
7 hours ago
Reply to  Chachi549

I looked it up and a 6.6 second 0-60 is nothing to sneeze at.

Livinglavidadidas
Livinglavidadidas
7 hours ago
Reply to  Chachi549

Been a while since I’ve been behind the wheel of one but every minivan I’ve driven has chirped tires from a stop. Not on purpose but when you give it some gas from a stop especially if trying to make a quick left turn it makes the tires squeal.

Alexk98
Alexk98
8 hours ago

He’s 100% spot on about minivan excellence, but I just don’t know why Chrysler would be trying to target Gen Z in general. They widely can’t afford new cars, are not having kids yet (not to mention a full third of Gen Z are still children) and how much longer is Chrysler really going to be dragging out it’s sad current existence anyways?

ShifterCar
ShifterCar
7 hours ago
Reply to  Alexk98

He isn’t advertising to Gen Z though – he is advertising minivans to a guy with 2-4 kids in his mid-30s who still thinks they are close to having the athletic ability to be a 3rd string QB for a 3rd tier NFL team and they are definitely still cool and stylish so maybe having a minivan wouldn’t mean all their dreams are dead.

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
8 hours ago

Toyota gave Kylie Kelce (Jason Kelce’s wife, who for whatever reason seems to be someone millennial girlies are obsessed with) a loaded Sienna. And guess what? It’s working. My wife, who was staunchly anti-minivan, now wants to look at a Sienna for her next car. My sister in law was talking about how she saw the same thing and now thinks the Sienna is cool, AND one of our friends was talking about Kylie’s van when we went to the USWNT game against Canada last week.

I’m not sure how much Dillon Gabriel is going to do for the Pacifica…as he’s trapped in the factory of sadness now and demographically speaking the average NFL fan probably drives a lifted truck they can’t afford, but I still admire the attempt by Chrysler. Vans ARE cool and they’re making a comeback.

Ash78
Ash78
8 hours ago

Please be sure to show her the Swagger Wagon videos so she fully understands what she’s getting into 🙂

Srsly, though that was the first major car campaign I remember being targeted almost entirely to people re-watching them on YouTube.

And both of those actors are pretty hilarious and accomplished in their own right. I loved the ads for their time and place. Just self-aware enough to make it work.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
8 hours ago

I’m still surprised that a manufacturer hasn’t made an artful ad that targets one of the underappreciated uses for a minivan, the 1 DD for a group of 8 ratio. I get that maybe the buyer doesn’t want to end up being perpetual DD, but we as a group alternate when it comes down to it.

The handed down minivan was the ultimate car to have in high school/college, and I think that people forget that there’s nothing better for social use-cases.

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
8 hours ago

Everyone laughed at the hand me down minivan guy until it was time for 6-8 people to go to a concert, then he was the coolest dude in the dorm. Or if a bunch of people need to go on a booze run because someone’s 22 year old sibling is visiting or whatever, you just pile on in. The van also has plenty of space for…interior activities as well if you’re young and don’t have a place to go.

When your high school sweetheart finally says she’ll let you get to third base the back of the van a better option than trying to find an empty movie theater. Wait…what are we talking about again?

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
8 hours ago

Lol. So much space for activities!

And I get that the average new car buyer is probably not at the stage in their life where they’re looking for a mobile bedroom (again, probably not) but there’s just so many things you can do with a van, not all of them involving schlepping around 5 cheerio-vomiting lunatics. In today’s totally outdoor obsessed culture, you’d think the vehicle that carries the most people and gear would be a winner. Hell, Toyota will even give their van AWD and a slight lift if you pay for it.

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
7 hours ago

5 cheerio-vomiting lunatics

…who 16 years later are the dorm people going on booze runs and doing…activities.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
7 hours ago

The circle of life.

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
6 hours ago

<music swells>
<but it’s the death metal version of baby shark>

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
6 hours ago

The Sienna is also the only one that’s both hybrid and all wheel drive

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
5 hours ago

For now yes. I’ve got to imagine Chrysler will eventually combine AWD with the PHEV? Maybe that’s on tap for the redesign that’s about 2-3 years too late.

I love the idea of something like the Woodland Edition, AWD hybrid van with a slight lift so it could at least make it to some of the trailheads we have around here that a regular minivan would have trouble with. But I also like having FWD vans around so that hopefully they don’t all balloon in price like 3-row SUVs have. Vans are already expensive enough.

Abdominal Snoman
Abdominal Snoman
3 hours ago

A big part of choosing an RX8 vs a 350Z, MRS, WRX, Evo, and GTI for me in 2003 was it sits exactly 3 people very comfortably but can do 4 with two people annoyed or carry a ridiculous amount of cargo in, quickly. Just big enough to go to lunch with your friends, but not big enough that it becomes the default road trip vehicle. Having an SVX at the end of college and beginning of adulting was very annoying as it was cool, very comfortable for 4, fun, and you could easily have a conversation with all the windows open. 9 times out of 10 I got outvoted and we used my car to go places as a group.

Andrew Wyman
Andrew Wyman
5 hours ago

I have been happy since we got one. My wife does still mention getting a SUV next, but the amenities and sliding doors have made life so much easier.

Nlpnt
Nlpnt
8 hours ago

He lived in Eugene, Oregon for four years and didn’t buy something from the ’80s? Is that even allowed? Isn’t it wall-to-wall old Subarus that rusted so fast in New England they’d spend their 10th birthday being driven to the crusher after a Fred Flintstone start, and were made so far back nobody in the Midwest or Deep South bought one in the first place?

Last edited 8 hours ago by Nlpnt
SAABstory
SAABstory
8 hours ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

Old Subaru or old Volvo, Saab, Mercedes would be expected.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
8 hours ago
Reply to  SAABstory

Environmental bumper stickers, but the rear of the wagon is caked in black oily soot from the exhaust?

Live2ski
Live2ski
8 hours ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

He only played his senior year at Oregon

Farfle
Farfle
1 hour ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

The article said he drove the Hybrid Pacifica, which means its really a Plug-in Hybrid with ~40mi of electric range. He claims he filled up his tank every 3 weeks, I think inferring that a decent amount was driven on electric power alone.

That would make this type of vehicle quite apropos to where he lived and operated it. (Electric utility costs are low there, at least residentially, with the abundance of hydro power)

Ash78
Ash78
8 hours ago

Fam, I lowkey love that my man was like “minivan got that W sigma rizz!” frfr before Chrysler hit him up IRL!

Sorry what I just blacked out for a second.

Oh yeah, I just thinking that his existing minivan fandom prior to the licensing money will definitely lend a bit more legitimacy to his pitch.

14SonicRS
14SonicRS
8 hours ago
Reply to  Ash78

ong Chrysler reliability pmo sm finna crashout but at least the interior is easy to clean bc i like my cheese drippy bruh and the sound system slaps playing the latest ksi and talk tuah episodes (I’m Gen-Z and this was excruciating to type out, hopefully the spam filter has received it’s latest internet brainrot vocabulary update)

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
8 hours ago
Reply to  14SonicRS

minivans are so Ohio.

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
7 hours ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Cleveland, Ohio specifically.

Ash78
Ash78
4 hours ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

How did I miss that one? 🙂 Solid.

It’s so pervasive, I have a Millenial neighbor with a faux-fundamentalist bumper sticker that says “Do you know where you’re going?” with the split graphic “Heaven or Ohio” just below it.

I can’t say I truly get it, but I’ll go with it. And it’s topical.

Saul Goodman
Saul Goodman
8 hours ago
Reply to  Ash78

You speak the tongue of the cursed generation…

The Gen Alphas.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
8 hours ago

The endorsement is even funnier after Shedeur Sanders, his competition for the job in Cleveland, just got a ticket for doing 101 in a 60. I assume not in a Chrysler Pacifica.

So maybe the Pacifica is a solid choice for simply getting the job done, and staying under the radar (lol). And you know, for receiving what I assume is 70% of Chrysler’s marketing budget.

Last edited 8 hours ago by Taargus Taargus
Livinglavidadidas
Livinglavidadidas
7 hours ago

I’ve gone considerably faster in a Town and Country, and did get a ticket luckily was clocked during a “slow” stretch

Santiago Iglesias
Santiago Iglesias
8 hours ago

ANYthing is better than one of those though. Especially the hybrid, just nonstop recalls

YourMedic
YourMedic
8 hours ago

Meh, we’ve been very happy with Pacifica Hybrid despite the recalls. Teething pains of new tech, and other than a glitchy rotary shift knob that had to be replaced, we’re at 135k miles now on ours and it’s still a great van. Still on the original brake pads, too! We’ll go months without having to buy gas and then drive across the country without breaking a sweat. Just pure utility and comfort.

Chachi549
Chachi549
8 hours ago
Reply to  YourMedic

Going months without buying gas sounds so nice…

Livinglavidadidas
Livinglavidadidas
7 hours ago
Reply to  Chachi549

Gets kinda stressful sometimes making sure your gas doesn’t sit for too long

Santiago Iglesias
Santiago Iglesias
6 hours ago

It has a mode where it will force the engine to run after a while, you don’t really need to monitor it yourself

Livinglavidadidas
Livinglavidadidas
2 hours ago

Do all PHEV have that?

Farfle
Farfle
1 hour ago

Yes thats a fairly standard and solved PHEV issue at this point. Even the old Volt circa 2011 had that gas-cycling algorithm enabled.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
8 hours ago

I’m going to make an anecdotal and totally not data driven argument for the Chrysler:

I have one. And it’s been solid. And it was 10k cheaper than an equivalent Honda, and basically infinitely cheaper than an equivalent Toyota. YMMV, but supposedly if you keep an eye on the coolant, and make sure nobody over-torques the oil filter, they’re fine.

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