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Can You Find What’s Wrong With This Picture?

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That image up there is a reminder of something. It’s a reminder that when it comes to wrenching, plans and goals you may have simply don’t matter. Somewhere out there, many of us believe, is chaotic spirit, a sort of ethereal, metaphysical entity that gathers ambient chaotic energy, and then flings it into one’s cars with the gleeful disregard of crabgrass. That chaos energy has the power to sense how you’d like to spend your precious wrenching time, money, and energy, and then forces situations where you simply are not able to do so. Then it laughs at you.

Usually this process is quite simple: the chaos causes problems in cars other than the ones you were hoping to work on.

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In my case, the car I was hoping to work on was my Citroën 2CV, which I’d only just gotten running again a few days ago, but instead I found that I had to spend my time working on my normally quite reliable daily driver (unless a deer is involved) because of something that was going on in that top picture. Can you see what it is?

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Here’s that main shot again. See what’s happening? It’s subtle, but I bet you can see it.

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Yep, that’s it, you got it. That very straight vertical something isn’t a bit of wire or string or something, it’s a jet of coolant coming from a pinhole in that coolant hose, which is a little molded hose that takes delicious, piping hot coolant through the heater core and lets it continue on its heat-carrying journey.

A pinhole leak in a hose is one of those miserably tiny things, almost imperceptible, that nevertheless has huge, potentially catastrophic consequences. These leaks are how cars overheat, how head gaskets fail, how all manner of cascading problems happen. They’re deeply annoying.

Oh, and before this I had a tire I had to replace, which just made it feel like something (I’m blaming that chaos entity, remember) was really determined to insure that I wouldn’t have time to work on my 2CV.

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Neither of these issues were huge issues, exactly, but both were the kinds of things that had to be taken care of, right then, if I wanted to actually, you know, use my car.

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I did get to meet this verdant fella, though. Oh, and for other reasons I had to go up on my roof, but that did allow me to take a picture of both the Pao and still-partially disassembled 2CV from a flying-monkey’s-eye-view:

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And I found a new way to bother my kid in his cool attic lair:

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Okay, but back to this annoying repair. The hose, while molded, I think was straight enough that I could replace it with a length of normal hose and not have to try and track down a custom chunk of Nissan Micra/Pao more-rare-than-Fabergé-eggsalad rubber, so that was my plan.

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You’d think getting out a hose would be trivial, but that would mean that somehow misery like this wouldn’t be a thing, where whatever sadistic monster installed this hose clamp decided that the best possible way to do it would be to put the adjustment screw in a position where you’d have to violate the laws of physics to get a screwdriver in that slot. Whyyyyyyyyyyy?

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Eventually I was able to jam a wrench in there and loosen that screw with a delightful and never-ending series of 1/48ths of a turn, over and over and over.

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Finally I got the damn thing out, and for a moment I thought I somehow nicked a brake line because I saw what looked like brake fluid!

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Thankfully, it was just blood, from somewhere. Because that’s what it always is.

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Eventually, I got the new chunk of hose on, added some more coolant, and took the car out for a test drive. With this on the roof:

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Yes, those were the snips I grabbed to cut the hose. They’re my gandfather’s old tin snips from when he was a tinsmith, and they’re important to me, which makes it even more absurd I drove as far as I did with these dangerous things forgotten on the roof. And somehow they didn’t fly off? Thank whomever, because that could have been a disaster. Oy.

Also, when I was driving, I noticed that the temperature gauge was rising, dramatically and far too quickly for my tastes. I was overheating. Why? What the hell happened? The leak was fixed! What did I screw up? Why did I screw it up? Ugggg.

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Eventually, I realized what I did, or rather, didn’t do, which is to bleed the air out of the cooling system and top it off again with coolant, of which far more got pissed out by that pinhole leak than I realized. So, out bubbled the air, in went the delicious green coolant, and another test drive proved all was okay.

So, to recap, I spent a bunch of time this weekend wrenching, with the end result of having a car that was in effectively the exact same condition it was in before the weekend started, and the car I desperately wanted to work on having had no progress made whatsoever. Another triumph!

Oy.

 

 

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Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
3 months ago

Glad to hear it was coolant and not fuel.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
3 months ago

*Checks floor jack best practices*

Use on loose surfaces.

PlatinumZJ
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PlatinumZJ
3 months ago

One morning I saw the new guy walking into the office while looking at some reddish stuff on his hands. I knew he drove an older car, so I offered him some of the liquid dish soap I keep on hand for removing oil and other engine-related substances (the soap provided by the company doesn’t do a good job at cleaning). He thanked me, then pointed out that he had actually cut himself on the car while trying to check on a leak.

John Patson
John Patson
3 months ago

Best way to realise you have such a leak is with the nose — if you smell that lovely motor steam smell, it is probably a leak. Or a purge left open by mistake…

JTilla
JTilla
3 months ago
Reply to  John Patson

My girlfriend calls it the maple syrup smell.

Axiomatik
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Axiomatik
3 months ago
Reply to  JTilla

It typically reminds me of oatmeal cookies.

Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
3 months ago

That is the beefiest most badass pair of tin ships I have ever seen in my life!

Droid
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Droid
3 months ago

the verdant fella is a katydid, a type of long-eared grasshopper (Tettigoniidae).
their nocturnal song “katy, katy, katy-did” july into september (what did Katy do?).
they live up in the trees. often heard, seldom seen.

MAX FRESH OFF
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MAX FRESH OFF
3 months ago
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Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
3 months ago

“[C]haotic spirit, a sort of ethereal, metaphysical entity that gathers ambient chaotic energy, and then flings it into one’s cars with the gleeful disregard of crabgrass”
Pretty good description of a gremlin. At least it didn’t yell in your ear “IT AIN’T VENDELL VILLKIE!!”
And those are quite lovely tin snips! Looks like they’re made of aluminum; the light weight is indeed an enormous boon when working all day cutting metal. The reinforcing buttresses on the handles are surprisingly sculptural. There’s something to be said for high quality tools that are also aesthetically pleasing. If one’s temper starts to rise because of a frustrating repair (like when dealing with “a delightful and never-ending series of 1/48ths of a turn”) sometimes it helps to take a moment and just appreciate whatever good quality tool one is holding. Quite a few times I’ve flung a cheap low-quality wrench from some brand like ALLTRADE or even QUALITY (lol) across the driveway but I’ve yet to fling a high-quality tool from the likes of old Craftsman, Knipex, or FACOM across the driveway because I would take the aforementioned moment to appreciate said tool and calm down.
Anyway, yeah, it was rather the opposite of a gremlin looking out for you in not losing those lovely old high quality aluminum tin snips from the Pao’s roof…

Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
3 months ago
Angry Bob
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Angry Bob
3 months ago

Had that happen on my E39 a couple weeks ago. It was a hose that could fit in the palm of your hand, but being BMW, it had different diameters at each end, so no bulk hose. $90. It uses the funky blue coolant. I just dumped some prestone in it. It’ll probably blow up now.

LTDScott
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LTDScott
3 months ago

You’re going through lessons that I learned for Lemons racing. Bleeding the coolant can make a big difference, and I always consider future removal when deciding where to put the screw drive of a hose clamp.

Parsko
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Parsko
3 months ago

Fixes like these don’t really bother me. Easy to diagnose, easy to fix, high level of satisfaction in the end that you went from broken to not broken.

I’m glad (hopeful?) that you didn’t scratch the paint on the roof with your mistake. Saba was looking over you, laughing a little, but proud and happy.

Scott Ashley
Scott Ashley
3 months ago

I always say It ain’t a project unless you give some blood. Well done

Droid
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Droid
3 months ago
Reply to  Scott Ashley

may Venturi, the god of auto maintenance, be pleased by Jason’s blood sacrifice

HO
HO
3 months ago

I could use the wheel stud pattern explained?

Jeremy Aber
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Jeremy Aber
3 months ago
Reply to  HO

I have to assume that’s so Nissan could reuse the same wheel across multiple bolt patterns for cost reasons?

HO
HO
3 months ago
Reply to  Jeremy Aber

But there is little material left for structure.
They look uneven and home made.
I do not recall ever seeing universal wheels.

Mike Smith - PLC devotee
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Mike Smith - PLC devotee
3 months ago
Reply to  HO

Look up the term ‘unilug’ for one example. It is also not uncommon on aftermarket wheels to have a handful of different bolt circles drilled so that they cover a spectrum of applications. I think those are called ‘multi fit’ rims.

LTDScott
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LTDScott
3 months ago
Reply to  HO

It’s common to see 2 sizes of lug patterns drilled out on aftermarket wheels, but I haven’t seen 3 sizes like this before.

HO
HO
3 months ago

“have an M on them”
But no DOT or CE marking, I guess.
Looks like something from a JustRolledIn video, and I am sure it would get at least a comment from from an inspector here.

Jeremy Aber
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Jeremy Aber
3 months ago

Ah, good to know!

Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
3 months ago

Would this be of any help in identifying those wheels?
https://kyushashoes.com/

LTDScott
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LTDScott
3 months ago
Reply to  Jeremy Aber

No OEM would ever do that. When you see that it’s almost a guaranteed sign of an aftermarket wheel.

Jeremy Aber
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Jeremy Aber
3 months ago
Reply to  LTDScott

I’ve never seen it before myself, but I guess I was thinking about today’s Nissan in cost savings survival mode and not the Nissan who was so flush they could make the Pao in the first place 😛

Scoutdude
Scoutdude
3 months ago
Reply to  HO

Those are cheapo aftermarket one size fits all, ok most, alright many vehicles, well kind of wheels.

Frederick Olson
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Frederick Olson
3 months ago

Wait, did you get an Accord??? Details please. Now you’re speaking my language.

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
3 months ago

Called it! That clean white line looked very out of place.

Borton
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Borton
3 months ago

Wrenching with no net gain is better than wrenching and ending up with a loss.

A. Barth
A. Barth
3 months ago

That pic of you and the lair-dweller is fantastic. 😀

And those snips/shears are excellent. There is a certain elegance to such things and the personal connection is irreplaceable; I’m glad they didn’t get lost on the test drive.

Jason: bleeds red, is human

Pao: bleeds green, is Vulcan \\//

Last edited 3 months ago by A. Barth
Data
Data
3 months ago
Reply to  A. Barth

May it live long and prosper.

Library of Context
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Library of Context
3 months ago

Is that dirt or are your rubber hoses rusting?

Flyingstitch
Flyingstitch
3 months ago

You know the answer. Too much time with David.

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
3 months ago

I remember a Peter Egan line about it not being an official project until some blood is involved.

BeardyHat
BeardyHat
3 months ago

I was finally making good progress on my engine rebuild. The engine is back in the car, I got the valve covers on, exhaust manifolds in place, needed to torque them down, then rebuild the intake manifold with new parts, get that on…

It’s been sitting again for weeks, because wouldn’t you know it, my daily has needed tons of attention. Just spent the weekend rebuilding the drum brakes, need to do the front rotors and pads next, check the oil, etc, get it ready for a road trip this week.

My daily has become my second (primary) project car.

Christopher Lannoye
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Christopher Lannoye
3 months ago

If you’re not bleeding when it’s done, it wasn’t a good repair.

D-dub
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D-dub
3 months ago

If you’re not sure where the blood is coming from, brake cleaner can help you out with that.

Jonah B.
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Jonah B.
3 months ago
Reply to  D-dub

Thanks but no thanks, I’ll stick with the lemon wedge I squeezed on my dinner last night to find the nicks from yesterday’s wrenching endeavors.

Last edited 3 months ago by Jonah B.
StillNotATony
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StillNotATony
3 months ago

Ah, yes. No project is complete without a blood sacrifice to the project gods.

Flyingstitch
Flyingstitch
3 months ago

Another triumph!

That’s what you need to top it all off, some Lucas electrics!

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
3 months ago
Reply to  Flyingstitch

The 2CV currently has the LucasPlus wiring harness.

Sid Bridge
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Sid Bridge
3 months ago

We had parallel wrenching experiences this weekend. The Subi had a similar hose-position issue, and once I got everything done, it forcefully ejected the hose from the water pump to let me know I hadn’t tightened it properly.

All this while the Miata is begging for a new clutch slave cylinder before I drive it to North Carolina on Wednesday.

67 Oldsmobile
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67 Oldsmobile
3 months ago

That is a gorgeous pair of scissors though. I wonder why it’s called that,if I’m saying it correctly? One of them would do a damn thing without the other side. Here we refer to it in a single form instead of plural. One/a scissor to be specific.

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
3 months ago

I was wondering, how heavy was the tin being snipped? But if they’re aluminum, that explains the reinforcement. And what I guess is steel jaw inserts held in with two pins.

They’re great, secondly because of their design and firstly because they’re your grandfather’s. I have tools from my grandfather, and every time I use them I feel honored. Same with the tools from my friend’s father, and from my great uncle. In this way, they live on.

Last edited 3 months ago by Twobox Designgineer
Knowonelse
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Knowonelse
3 months ago

I have several tools from various great-uncles, grandfathers, and father. I always give them a shoutout when I use them. Some are simply brilliant and far better than what I can purchase now.

Steve's House of Cars
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Steve's House of Cars
3 months ago

Technically it’s not a Triumph, but either a Nissan or Citreon. I thought you knew your cars?

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