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Canada Is Building A Car Market That Doesn’t Need The United States

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I was in church the other day and was excited to see a friend who had recently moved back to Canada. You can’t miss this guy, because he’s a giant Ontario farm boy of Dutch heritage. The Dutch know hard work, but that didn’t stop him from getting laid off here in the U.S., forcing him to move back home.

Even he, a fairly worldly fellow, was surprised by the current sentiments towards the U.S. when he crossed the border. I don’t think most Americans quite grasp both the depths of Canadian consternation and how hard it is to make a Canadian get that mad. He invited me up to watch a NASCAR Pinty Series race, and I asked him if I’d take some heat for being American. He laughed. “No, of course not, we’re still Canadian,” was his answer.

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American people are welcome, but American products are a tougher sell. He said that the local liquor store was telling people to buy the American spirits they like now, because they weren’t ordering any more. For now, most of the boycott seems to be localized to brown liquors. Are cars next? It’s not a crazy thought, given Canada’s announcement that it’s lowering the tariff on Chinese cars.

Put on your buckets, today’s Morning Dump is going to be a little controversial, and I just ask that we all respect one another as we work our way through some challenging times. While Canada and China are buddying up, German companies like Porsche are having to deal with slumping sales in that country. China remains the world’s biggest battery supplier, and Ford is having to squash a rumor that it was looking to buy batteries from BYD.

Tesla does huge business in China and tends to avoid a lot of static for it, but it’s still facing a NHTSA investigation here in the United States. The company asked for an extension because there were too many incidents to review.

Canada And The United States Suddenly In A… Heated Rivalry

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The President recently told the world that Americans don’t need Canadian products, seemingly as a way to dismiss the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA, or CUSMA as they call it up north). Per The Canadian Press:

U.S. President Donald Trump said Tuesday the Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement on trade is “irrelevant” to him and Americans don’t need Canadian products.

“It expires very shortly and we could have it or not,” Trump said while touring a Ford plant in Michigan. “It wouldn’t matter to me. I think they want it. I don’t really care about it.”

Clearly, President Trump isn’t up on all the Jacob Tierney-produced, Hockey-based television Americans are devouring. In addition to Heated Rivalry, a new season of Shoresy better be coming to Hulu in a few weeks. Also, who doesn’t appreciate some Alberta Beef and all-dressed chips?

The better question might be: What does America export to Canada? Besides booze, the answer is that America exports a lot of cars (and also builds a lot of cars there). For historical, geographical, and regulatory reasons, a lot of vehicles travel between the two countries.

Or, at least, that’s what used to happen. As Bloomberg reports, the number of exports from the United States is falling dramatically:

US factories’ share of the Canadian vehicle market has tumbled to a new low, as automobile tariffs upend an industry that for decades enjoyed tight cross-border integration.

Just 36% of passenger vehicles imported to Canada were manufactured in the US during the first 10 months of 2025. That compares with an average of 49% in the 10 years before that, according to Statistics Canada imports data.

Canada is the largest buyer of American-made new cars and trucks, by far. But the numbers help illustrate how the trade war started by President Donald Trump’s administration has changed the business. Mexican and South Korean-made vehicles are gaining a bigger share of sales at Canadian auto dealers.

In response to President Trump’s tariffs and the risk of losing out in a renegotiated USMCA, American car companies have shifted production away from Canada to the United States, which has royally upset Canadian leaders. Canadians also seem irked by the suggestion that Canada should become the 51st state and, recently, over similar, uh, ‘discussions’ about its neighbor, Greenland.

I don’t think the U.S. and Canada can exactly extricate themselves from one another so easily, and American brands could still produce cars in Canada for the local market if it came to that. The other alternative is that Canada could allow more Chinese cars into the country, which, yup, that’s what’s going to happen.

From the CBC:

“It’s a partnership that reflects the world as it is today, with an engagement that is realistic, respectful and interest-based,” Carney told a news conference in Beijing.

Carney said Ottawa expects Beijing to drop canola seed duties to 15 per cent by March, and called that “enormous progress.”

Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe said in a social media post that the break on canola tariffs “demonstrates the importance of foreign trade missions and shows what can be achieved when the federal and provincial governments and our export industries work together to strengthen our trade relationships.”

Canadian canola meal, lobsters, crabs and peas will no longer be subject to Chinese “anti-discrimination” tariffs from March to at least the end of the year. There was no mention of canola oil.

In return, Canada will allow up to 49,000 Chinese electric vehicles into the Canadian market each year, at a 6.1 per cent tariff.

That’s less than 5% of the total market, but presumably those will be almost entirely electric vehicles or PHEVs. As if to rub it in, Canadian Premier Carney said that working with China is now “more predictable,” which feels like a dig at the United States. More pointedly, he said: “We fundamentally stand up for human rights, for democracy, territorial integrity, rights to self-determination.” That’s a crazy argument to make when talking about signing a deal with China, a country that doesn’t regularly respect any of the above, but there’s definitely a way to read that as a dig at the United States as well.

Mexico has taken a somewhat different approach, having recently upped tariffs against Chinese EVs. Will it matter? Who knows, but Mexico already surpassed the United States in auto exports to Canada at least once last year.

I don’t know where this goes, but I assume it’s not good, other than Thomas getting to drive a bunch of interesting Chinese and South Korean cars we don’t get. If it goes tarps off between the USA and Canada, he’s threatening to cut his article word count by 15%.

China Helps Take Down Porsche, Also Germany

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The United States was the one major market where Porsche had an ok year, but sales were still ten-ply. Everywhere else? Woof. Germany is down 16%, and China is down 26%.

Per Automotive News Europe, there are a lot of challenges facing the company’s new CEO:

Porsche has struggled with a range of challenges, including correcting an overly ambitious battery-electric vehicle rollout that upended model plans and weighed on margins. Tariffs in the U.S., which has surpassed China as Porsche’s most important market, have also weighed on profit.

The automaker stopped selling combustion engine versions of the Macan and the 718 Boxster and Cayman in Europe because their older digital architectures did not meet new EU cybersecurity regulations.

Given where emissions standards are in the United States, my advice is for the company to produce a new V8-powered 928 built in Tennessee.

Ford Is, Or Isn’t, Thinking About Using BYD Batteries Abroad

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Photo: BYD

BYD makes a good battery, historically, and plenty of automakers have used them in their own cars (including Tesla). Would Ford consider it? A report from Keith Naughton, via The Detroit News, suggests there’s at least been a discussion about it and some pushback.

The potential pact with BYD drew immediate political blowback, with White House trade adviser Peter Navarro and Michigan member of Congress questioning the deal.

House China Panel Chair John Moolenaar, R-Caledonia, said Ford “should work with our allies, not our adversaries.”

“If reports that Ford is in discussions to potentially partner with a second Chinese battery company were to come true, it would diminish Ford’s status as an iconic American company,” Moolenaar said in an emailed statement.

Ford already uses Chinese batteries in some of its EVs sold in China, but this reportedly would be for the company’s hybrids. Tesla does a ton of business with BYD, so it’s odd that Tesla doesn’t seem to get any negative attention for it.

Tesla Asks For Extension To Review FSD Issues

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Source: Tesla

A probe from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration into incidents involving Tesla’s ADAS systems isn’t going to be resolved soon, as Tesla has asked for (and been granted) an extension to review all the issues.

According to Bloomberg, NHTSA is looking into incidents where FSD-equipped vehicles violate safety laws, as well as the car’s ability to sense objects during fog or other reduced visibility situations:

In the extension request Tesla sent to NHTSA this week, the carmaker complained it was dealing with a pileup of queries from the regulator. On top of the agency’s questions about FSD and traffic violations, the company simultaneously has been preparing responses to NHTSA’s probes into delayed crash reports and inoperative door handles.

Having to reply to three large information requests in short order “is unduly burdensome and affects the quality of responses,” Tesla said.

You know what’s also burdensome? Having your public roads used as a beta test for a technology, so Tesla should expect public scrutiny.

What I’m Listening To While Writing TMD

This morning, I nearly fell out of bed when I discovered that Mitski posted something to her Instagram account, which is like only the 4th time that’s ever happened. She’s got a new song! This is a big deal in my world. Please enjoy “Where’s My Phone?” and its Rapunzel-as-shot-by-third-year-UMASS Amherst Film Studies video.

The Big Question

What’s your favorite Canadian car, product, tv show, actor?

Top photo: BYD, Toyota, Audi

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Hoser68
Hoser68
1 month ago

The one bright side of a trade war between the US and Canada is that so many Hallmark Christmas Movies are filmed in Canada.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago

Remember kids, a goodly number of things that are now considered war crimes are in the list because the Canadians did them. It’s not a war crime *the first time*. They are very nice people until they are not.

I went to school with a bunch of New Brunswickers and Newfies in far DownEast Maine. Love them. Don’t drink with them. Especially the Newfies.

Luxrage
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Luxrage
1 month ago

Two of the four cars in my fleet are Canadian built, and while I see plenty of Letter Kenny / Shorsey posts, my heart belongs to the Trailer Park Boys

Dylan
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Dylan
1 month ago

I’m surprised nobody brought up Stargate and Stargate Atlantis!

Scott
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Scott
1 month ago
Reply to  Dylan

Half of the heating elements in my very expensive toaster just died. Why are toasters such short-lived appliances? Anyway, thanks for reminding me of saucy Dr. Weir https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Weir_(Stargate) …I needed that. 😉

But I also meant to comment: now Mexico and to a limited extent Canada get Chinese cars. I wonder how long it’ll be until they come to America, one way or another. Not during this adminstration of course, but eventually?

Last edited 1 month ago by Scott
Dylan
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Dylan
1 month ago
Reply to  Scott

I was always partial to Dr. Keller myself…

Guillaume Maurice
Guillaume Maurice
1 month ago
Reply to  Scott

My toaster is… 35 years old… the springs have lost lot of springiness, but it’s still working fine. .

Now, I wouldn’t expect a modern appliance to last that long. (I also have a vacuum cleaner that belonged to my grandmother… which means it’s older than me, it’s still working quite well… the difficulty will be to find bags once my stockpile of them is used)

Oh and I was always fond of Daniel Jackson…

Last edited 1 month ago by Guillaume Maurice
TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
1 month ago
Reply to  Scott

I don’t think myself or anyone I know has ever had to replace a toaster, unless it was for aesthetic purposes. What in the world are you doing with your toaster?

Scott
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Scott
1 month ago

I had two die in the past few months. Both were several years old at time of death. The first was a Hamilton Beach cheap toaster oven. The ‘new’ one is (was a fancy) stainless steel dutch-door one, which toasted much better than the HB. All I do is toast bagels and once in a while, half a frozen pizza. Nothing complicated, and I never cook an actual whole thing (bake/broil) in there for any length of time.

The steel one still works on the bottom, so if I place the bagels face down and put the rack up one notch, it sorta toasts them semi-OK (not as good as before the top element stopped working).

I dunno what it is. Maybe just my own bad karma. Speaking of which, all the power windows in my 240 wagon stopped working and it’s not the fuse.

TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
1 month ago
Reply to  Scott

Most old cars out all the juice through the window switches. Pull the switches apart and clean the contacts. It may be your issue. It’s how I fixed the windows on my w126.

Scott
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Scott
1 month ago

Yes, after it wasn’t the fuse, oxidized contacts was my next guess. I just watched a 2 minute video and apparently I can get the switches out without even removing the door card, so maybe I’ll give it a try tomorrow. I have a can of contact cleaner handy already. 🙂

TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
1 month ago
Reply to  Scott

Get some emery cloth or fine sand paper and some dielectric grease.

Clean, smooth contacts and some grease inside the switches and they’re better than new.

I keep a box of Mercedes switches I’ve refurbished to swap out with friends who need switches.

Scott
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Scott
1 month ago

Wish I had a local old Volvo pal like you. 🙂

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
Reply to  Dylan

No matter what planet you visit in either the Stargate or BSG universe it’s looks like BC.

*Jason*
*Jason*
1 month ago

In regards to the drop in US manufactured cars exported to Canada and the rise of Mexican cars. Part of the is a tariff dodge.

My employer has shifted production of vehicles from the USA to Mexico where we can to dodge tariffs. Mexican built vehicles enter Canada duty free as clearly called out in NAFTA. It adds cost and lengthens supply chains but it is far cheaper to add a few thousand miles of transport than to pay the tariffs.

Companies will spend 95 cents on logistics stupidity to avoid paying $1 in new taxes.

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
1 month ago

“What’s your favorite Canadian product?”

For me as an American? Hydroelectric power. I don’t get to use any myself as I’m on the wrong side of the country but my fellow Americans in New England do.

*Jason*
*Jason*
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

The current administration seems to forget the fact that the USA is dependent on Canadian electricity to prevent blackouts.

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
Reply to  *Jason*

Maybe if Canadians buy enough EVs to use up all that electricity there won’t be any left for the administration to forget.

Hoser68
Hoser68
1 month ago
Reply to  *Jason*

“Canadian power isn’t as good as US power. Ever had maple syrup come out of your outlets? It gums up stuff and is why modern electrical stuff doesn’t last as long as it used to back when the US made all the power.”

JFK Jr.

(Not a real quote. JFK Jr would never believe something so sensible.)

Hoser68
Hoser68
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

A lot of Hydroelectric power that comes from Canada to the US is from nuclear plants built right on the border.

Cars? I've owned a few
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Cars? I've owned a few
1 month ago

There’s some great cuisine N of the 49th parallel. Poutine is fun, but there’s a lot more.

Canadian food: 20 of the country’s greatest dishes | CNN

Turd Ferguson
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Turd Ferguson
1 month ago

I checked out the link. Now I’m going to have to make Tourtière.

Cars? I've owned a few
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Cars? I've owned a few
1 month ago
Reply to  Turd Ferguson

You may or may not impress people. But about 15 out of 20 of those sounded like something I would like to try for a party of friends with a full disclosure of “I’m not sure what I’m doing. I’m 1/4 Canadian, but that comes from a grandmother who was born in China to Scottish missionaries.”

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