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Dodge’s Surprising Claim That The Charger EV Is Supposed To Accelerate On Its Own If The Gas Pedal Fails Might Actually Be Legit

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We’ve got to talk about the Dodge Charger Unintended Acceleration story that we and a number of other car publications ran yesterday. Namely, we have to talk about the term “drive-by-brake,” which sounds made up, partly because I cannot find a single reference to this term on the vast internet, and partly because its function sounds truly absurd: It accelerates your car when the “gas” pedal is broken. But is this “drive-by-brake” thing as ridiculous as it sounds? Yes and no.

I’ve been running around trying to talk with safety regulators and accelerator pedal module suppliers to see what the rules are on accelerator pedal failsafes, and I’ll be honest: I haven’t gotten too far. But I have found a NHTSA study and chatted with a number of engineers, many of whom all concluded roughly the same thing: “I get what Dodge is trying to do, and if it’s like a creep mode that’s fine. But it shouldn’t go that fast.”

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That’s where I landed on this whole thing, but let’s step back for a second to recap. Edmunds recently published this article and the below video showing a Charger Daytona EV test car accelerating without any pedal input:

The article describes what happened:

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I was pulling out onto a thoroughfare street from a strip mall parking lot when warning lights appeared on the Charger’s instrument panel for the stability control, frontal collision warning system, regenerative braking and more. There was also a short-lived message — it might have been something about the forward collision warning system — and that the car would be in low power mode. This wasn’t good.

I could tell something was wrong because the car accelerated sluggishly. I got the Charger up to the speed of traffic OK, but then I noticed something was very wrong when I slightly lifted off the accelerator. First, the Charger wasn’t using any regenerative braking to slow itself down like it should. (In an EV, you typically lift off the accelerator and the car decelerates without using the regular friction brakes.) It wasn’t coasting, either. It was, in fact, accelerating.

I watched the speedometer and could tell the Charger was gaining speed at approximately 1 mph per second, even though I did not have a foot on the pedal.

…I had to push on the brake pedal harder than usual to get the car to stop, but fortunately, it did stop. (Presumably, the extra effort was required to counteract the constant acceleration.) As soon as I lifted off the brake pedal, the car started accelerating again. It was a bit like the creeping forward effect you get with a regular car with an automatic transmission, but then it just kept going instead of being limited to a 2-3 mph top speed.

I let the car accelerate by itself as a test. It reached about 45 mph before I had to apply the brakes again for another stop sign. That was enough.

This wasn’t the only complaint of unintended acceleration in a Dodge Charger EV, and that’s damning because there aren’t many Charger EVs on the road. Here’s a complaint on the NHTSA database:

Charger Daytona sudden unintended acceleration NHTSA complaint
Screenshot: NHTSA

And here are a few Dodge Charger Daytona Forum posts, with the latter claiming a 20% pedal input even with the driver’s foot completely off the accelerator:

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Screenshot: Daytona Owners

I cannot corroborate all of these claims, and there’s always a potential that the drivers actually had their foot on the “gas” or that something got trapped under the pedal, but the Edmunds video speaks for itself, and then there’s this: Dodge itself admitted that this unintended acceleration was actually intended.

Intended by Stellantis, that is, and in fact branded as “drive-by-brake,” the term that sounds fake and has pretty much no trace on the internet. Here was Dodge’s statement:

In the rare event of an accelerator pedal fault, Stellantis has implemented a ‘drive-by-brake’ safety feature, which allows the driver to control speed through the brake pedal. In this instance, the feature worked as intended, and the driver was able to safely maneuver the vehicle off the road. This feature has been in Stellantis internal combustion engine vehicles for many years and has been carried over to battery electric vehicles.

Many People Are Skeptical

Edmunds’ brief discussion of the above quote was simply “It’s interesting to hear the company describe this acceleration override as a “feature” rather than a bug. Nevertheless, we’ll keep you posted about what happens when the Charger Daytona comes back from the dealer.”

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Our friends at Carscoops car-scooped us with the exact headline we were planning on using —  “Dodge Says Charger Daytona’s Unintended Acceleration Is A Feature Not A Bug” — and that story’s comments definitely include some skeptics; here’s one:

What? “Drive-by brake” sounds like the worst pivot of an automotive excuse I’ve ever seen.

Here’s another:

If your car’s accelerator is malfunctioning, is it really safe to continue driving home? Seems irresponsible to build this “feature” into a car that no one (even auto journalists) knows about.

And here are some skeptics in Thomas’ initial article on this topic here on The Autopian:

Wut. That response seems completely insane, and if it’s really been a “feature” for years in a range of stellantis products I think it needs a lot more coverage.

Here’s another:

Stellantis- “It’s supposed to do that!”

SMH

And another:

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Is that drive-by-brake feature in the user manual? I’ve never heard of such a thing, but I’ve never owned a Dodge. I feel like Edmunds probably reads the manuals for their long-term tests (and if not, shame on them).

What I wonder is, does Dodge really have so many accelerator issues, even in their ICE cars, they were compelled to create this solution? *That* seems a little odd to me…

And another:

‘Working as intended’ isn’t the answer I expected, that’s nuts.

For The Most Part, Folks Get The Concept But Think The Execution/Communication Is Terrible

Most Autopian commenters, though, understand what Stellantis was going for, but think this was poorly executed and that communication with drivers needs to be better. Engineers I spoke with, and I myself, agree.

Given all the screens and how everything is pointlessly now interconnected, it’s annoying that they can’t just pop up a message saying something like “Lost communication with throttle sensor, entering 20% limp home mode” to both make fixing the issue far easier and to calm down the driver as to why the car’s behaving unexpectedly.

Here’s another good one by Keith Tanner acknowledging that he understands the intent:

I was wondering if the 20% throttle signal was an intentional design choice when I read the article before the update. It would allow the vehicle to be moved to safety. This isn’t a terrible failure mode. I agree that maybe the driver should be alerted, it’s not like there’s a lack of screens.

I know that there’s a limp mode in GM PCMs that will allow the engine to idle but ignores pedal input when it thinks something is awry. I’ve triggered it a few times myself when running a rowdier cam that gulps excessive air on shifts, leading to a plausibility error in the MAF that make the car think the throttle was stuck open. I idled to a stop in the Laguna Seca runoff area a few times. I could reset it by power cycling the PCM with my kill switch, which also had the side effect of erasing the codes. The fun part was that the lower air density at my home in Colorado wasn’t enough to trigger it, so the failure only happened at sea level. That made it really fun to try to figure out.

This mode absolutely should be speed limited, as The Mark notes:

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What a very strange failsafe mode. As others have mentioned, it should be speed limited and there should be a message center warning (“Accelerator Error: Vehicle Speed Limited to 15 MPH”) or whatnot. Just enough to get your car safely off the road. I wonder what other OEMs have implemented in the event of this failure, which WILL happen, assuming they all share between a few pedal assembly suppliers.

Superflouis agrees:

If you’re Stellantis, “the feature worked as intended” in response to a video of a car accelerating past 40 mph is a bit odd; add to that the fact that the term “drive-by-brake” is a brand new one not seen in the owner’s manual, and the lack of a clear message on the vehicle’s screen, and I’d argue that Stellantis would have been smart to dive in a bit deeper into what “drive-by-brake” means — in fact, it could have been spun into a positive. But right now,  many think it’s BS — not the fact that a feature exists, but the claim that everything was working “as intended.” It seems hard to believe that a car accelerating itself past 40 without the driver knowing what’s going on is “a feature.”

To be sure, the NHTSA study that Steve helped me dig up seems to imply that this strategy is not entirely unheard of, but again, the bigger issue in my view is the lack of communication with drivers about what is happening, and I think the speed should be limited to maybe a few MPH (it’s hard to believe that 40 MPH is the system working “as intended”). You don’t need to be driving a car on the freeway with no functioning accelerator pedal.

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Also, these new cars shouldn’t have pedal failures in the first place.

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TDI in PNW
TDI in PNW
12 hours ago

I suspect this brand will not survive the next 4 years. It will be a brutal time for every manufacturer, but especially bad for the near dead, like Dodge.

Chartreuse Bison
Chartreuse Bison
1 day ago

It isn’t working at intended, the accelerator pedal is apparently broken on a brand new car.
If it is an intended failsafe, that means something failed.

Santiago Iglesias
Santiago Iglesias
1 day ago

This would be really easy to test in any stellantis vehicle, just get under the dash and unplug the accelerator pedal

Knowonelse
Knowonelse
1 day ago

As for “ if the steering fails you can control the steering rack with the window switches?”
My brother had this figured out decades ago! I was with him when we were on the highway in his ’67 VW squareback. He controlled his position within the lane and made lane changes by feathering the wing windows on either side as needed. A squareback is small enough that he could reach across to the passenger wing window to feather that one as well as the driver side.

subsea_EV-VI
subsea_EV-VI
1 day ago

Sounds like they took the wrong lessons from Boeing: adding a “safety feature” that’s not in the manual, doesn’t tell you when it’s kicked in, and has no limit to how much it’ll push the vehicle.

*cough*MCAS*cough*

My Goat Ate My Homework
My Goat Ate My Homework
1 day ago

Oh, this is a feature. They should name it Fail Safe anti-Deacceleration. They can charge like $8,000 for it.

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