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Google Is Why Grandpa Thinks A Mustang Truck Is Coming And It’s Why The Autopian Needs Your Help

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I like to say that advertising is not how we make money, but how we avoid losing money. But that’s no longer the case, because of what I suspect are changes to Google’s algorithm to promote utter crap instead of good original work. Our long-term goal is to improve our sustainability by leaning into membership, so this is going to be my biggest ask of the year: If you’re not a member yet and you love this website, please become a member.

This is the only way a site like ours can continue far into the future, given the recent change from Google. It’s not just us, of course, because other publishers are seeing the same thing. The difference is that we’re a member-supported business and have a lever to pull that most others do not.

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This all gets a little complex, so I’ll try to make what’s happened as simple to understand as possible. Because Google is a black box, I’m just inferring based on what I’ve seen and what other publishers are telling me.

Google Discover Has Been A Huge Help In Growing This Website

First, an acknowledgment. Jumping from a popular website to start a brand new one in 2022 was a brave move for Jason and David, and I have a deep respect for those two and Beau for embarking on this journey. It became a successful and beloved website faster than I could have ever imagined, looking in from the outside. It turns out there are a lot of people who miss websites that were written for people and not algorithms.

The algorithms are important, however. We do a great job of turning people into loyal readers and turning those loyal readers into members. It’s a wonderful thing. The challenge has always been finding new readers, especially when the old levers of social media are broken. We don’t have a long tail of search, a Facebook page that got millions of readers in the initial social heyday, or many of the other advantages competitors have.

Google, though, provided a wonderful tool for us. This was Google Discover. It’s a feed that appears across Google’s many products that’s personalized to you. Without doing anything other than publishing, we were rewarded for writing great and unique stories that people loved to read. We were rewarded primarily with traffic, and it helped us grow the site from something that was a fraction of the size of the industry stalwarts to a site that was recently bigger than many of them. For a few years, our site’s excellent work was rewarded in that it was put in front of the faces of many people, who clicked and enjoyed our work.

And then this significant chunk of our readership coming from Google Discover mostly stopped working, and it stopped working around the time that David had a baby and went on paternity leave. We first assumed it was a short-term blip caused by being overworked and understaffed; what we later learned is that it was likely a Google Core Update that reduced our visibility on the platform (on top of already seeing search traffic dropping because of what we suspect is an AI-related cause). Just look at this:

Google Disco Graph
Image: Chartbeat

That’s weekly traffic from Google Discover. You can pretty much see the moment when it happened. Suddenly, we went from having 4 million visits a month as measured by SimilarWeb — bigger than Road & Track, The Drive, and many much older publications — to 2-2.5 million. That’s a reduction of about 30-40%. To make it worse, when you drop down below a certain level, the amount you make per impression is less, so we’re being hit with the 1-2 punch of less traffic and lower rates.

What was great about Google Discover in the past was that it felt like a more even playing field. It was a place where our newness didn’t impact us as much because people clicked on our stories and read them. A lot! And then that changed. We don’t know why. We’re looking for technical fixes, but the fact is that this is happening to our competitors as well, so there may not be a specific or simple cure.

Here’s The Slop That Google Is Promoting Instead

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Screenshot: Marfeel

I did a trial with a company that provides a monitor of Google Discover traffic to surface which stories are doing well. You can see what’s working above in the automotive category, and it’s largely AI hallucinations coming from websites that are in the “MFA” or “Made for Advertising” category. [Editor’s Note: We did cover that DIY plate also, to be fair. – JT] This is the worst of the worst, with terrible interfaces, awful toe fungus ads, and content that is both made up and boring.

Mustang Slop
Screenshot: One Of These Sites

This is the opposite of what Google tells us to do, both in terms of presentation and content. There’s a helpful section of Google’s own publication guide that talks about the company’s desire to surface “helpful, reliable, people-first content.” I think you’d all agree that’s what we mostly do around here. There are even more specific guidelines, called E-E-A-T, that we have always naturally followed [Editor’s Note: One of my founding documents here established the “EE Rule,” which requires that all articles be enlightening or entertaining, ideally both. -DT]

Google’s automated systems are designed to use many different factors to rank great content. After identifying relevant content, our systems aim to prioritize those that seem most helpful. To do this, they identify a mix of factors that can help determine which content demonstrates aspects of experience, expertise, authoritativeness, and trustworthiness, or what we call E-E-A-T.

Of these aspects, trust is most important. The others contribute to trust, but content doesn’t necessarily have to demonstrate all of them. For example, some content might be helpful based on the experience it demonstrates, while other content might be helpful because of the expertise it shares.

I can’t even link to the sites that are being promoted because I don’t want to be associated with them, but it’s really bad, and little of the content there seems true, trustworthy, or written by or for humans. There is no Mustang Pickup truck coming, nor a 2026 Chevelle SS, and the new Corvette doesn’t look like this.

Corvette Slop
Screenshot: One Of These Sites

We can’t do this, obviously, and we wouldn’t. Not only does Google tell us it’s a bad idea, but as journalists, we are ethically opposed to it. I also think it’s long-term bad business. What is valuable is a genuine audience, and we’ve mostly built that.

One alternative is to do “Trending” stories that are mostly rewrites of TikTok stories. The biggest car website on the web (I won’t name them) does this. It’s not that any of the employees there like it, but it keeps the bills paid. Could we do that? The problem, when you look at the numbers, is that they’re pushing out 100-150 of these a month, and they’re only hitting about 2-3 times a month. That’s a terrible ratio, and we’d have to drown The Autopian with slop (even if it’s slop written by people, and not AI).

We may not always be the largest website, but our audience is real and we have more direct traffic than even some bigger sites:

Share Of Direct Traffic Chart
Screenshot: SimilarWeb

I’ve anonymized the data, but those are three other websites in our competitive set. We’ve been around the same size for the last year, although we’ve been bigger than the other sites at various points. You can see that we have a much larger share of direct traffic, even if organic (Google products) is lower. In general, we have a lot of direct traffic, which is good. We also have a lot of engaged time as people read our articles. Most of our stats have stayed approximately the same, and just to make it more confusing, we’ve performed better on Google News since Google rolled out the Core Update we think hit us.

There’s just more AI-powered slop, and human-powered slop, and it seems to be pushing out our human-made, non-slop writing.

We Were Kicking Butt, And Now We’re Kicking Less Butt

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I felt great in April, because it wasn’t quite clear that this was happening yet. We’d had a long run of sustainability as a business, and it seemed as though we’d succeeded in our original mission. Memberships and partnerships were growing faster than planned, and so long as we could stay roughly where we were with ad income, we’d be en route to a great year. We even turned off ads for members, because it didn’t seem like we needed that revenue.

Now, that source of once reliable traffic is way less reliable, for no discernible reason, and it’s knocked out one of the legs of the stool.

As I said above, my goal here is to get you to become a member if you can afford to and haven’t already. Based on traffic patterns, there are a lot of you who read this site daily. About 12% of you are members, which is awesome, and I’m so grateful we have that many. It allows us to paywall very few articles so that more people can read the site, and it has allowed us to hire great writers.

If we can go from 12% to 24% then we’ll cover a lot of the gap we now have to cover because of this loss of Discover traffic. If we can get to 33% we’ll be in a position to support more writers with freelance work and, hopefully, more full-time work.

No one has had a better chance to make a great car website than us, and I think we’ve done it. If this doesn’t work, I’ll be haunted by the reality that either we’re not smart enough to figure it out, or no one is, because it’s impossible. We’re so close to getting there, and any help you can provide will be returned with more of the kind of work that brought you here in the first place.

Thank you. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go read about the two vegetables that’ll kill all this arm fat, on the way to the Oldsmobile dealer to pick up my new Cutlass 442.

Top Photo: AI nonsense, Deposit Photos, Jason Torchinsky 

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Pubburgers
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Pubburgers
4 months ago

Shut up and take my money.

Now if you’ll excuse me I have a huge backlog of members only posts to investigate. Ugh, I meant work, definitely working undistracted.

Mr. Asa
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Mr. Asa
4 months ago

Howdy Matt
Been a while, life stuff happened. I’m back

It's Fine
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It's Fine
4 months ago

I will say that I have been a velour level member for a while, but I would be happy to upgrade if only there were either a tier in between velour and Corinthian or a monthly option for Corinthian. Dropping a grand at once is out of reach for many. I also don’t need any more premiums, just a better way to pay for the content I already like.

Jlacourt
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Jlacourt
4 months ago

You guys have my support — I just upgraded from Vinyl to Velour

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
4 months ago

If you want something genuine, high quality, made with care, you need to pay for it.

Hate to get all Alex Trebek for Colonial Penn insurance on y’all, but for the cost of one Arby’s combo per month, you could be a vinyl member. Yeah, you’re going to sacrifice the experience of hunching over a Big Montana at 11:30am on a Tuesday, but you’ll do so knowing that you’re keeping one of the few good things left on the internet alive. And your feet will be less swollen (probably).

Also, my recommendation to tightwads who have people in their lives that buy them stupid gifts, tell those people to buy you an Autopian membership! Christmas, birthday, Happy Honda Days, it doesn’t matter. You don’t need whatever POS Amazon crap your mother-in-law foists upon you during the holidays. What you do need, is to be part of the resistance to AI-slop and the effort by tech-bros to turn us all into data center coal-shovelers.

Jason Masters
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Jason Masters
4 months ago

Matts email is also what tipped me over the edge… despite having a really rough year. i read it, slept on it and read it again. then realized just how much joy, entertainment and knowledge this site (and the J-site) have given me over the years. y’all are the reason i care about cars at all, and i really owe you so much more than a membership. so from the bottom of my heart (and bank account) thank you. i wish i could do more.

Colin Greening
Colin Greening
4 months ago

Hey Matt, getting this email this morning is what finally got me to pull the trigger and subscribe, so kudos.
I’m 23, and started reading Jalopnik back when I was 14 so I’ve been in the community for a bit. I am so sick to death of watching every journo site turn into slop garbage under private equity and GenAI.
I would rather pay out-of-pocket for content that respects me, my time, and my dollar, than machine-generated detritus that will say whatever it needs to to drive clicks and ad revenue.
Thank you guys for all your hard work, please keep it up.

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
4 months ago

Well that’s it, I’m raging against the machine and upgraded my membership tier, voting with dollars is my only voice so I better use it.

Johnologue
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Johnologue
4 months ago

I think Google is trying to do Amazon Basics. I mean, they already were, but to a more blatant and extreme degree.

Admittedly, I haven’t used Amazon for a long time, but I’m certain the plan was to encourage bad/untrustworthy product listings to clog the site, then have Amazon Basics as the same generic products with logos applied that would, at least, be “endorsed” by the platform, even if they were obviously very cheap.

So, for Google, turn the entire internet into the worst online storefront possible until people learn to give up and buy “Basics” instead. And Basics is AI answers.

Harveydersehen
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Harveydersehen
4 months ago

* that over direct traffic number is phenomenal. Well done.
* once my house is sold I’ll upgrade my membership.

Garbage content has always existed in some form, e.g. “product review” sites that just repackage Amazon reviews, Q&A sites, expert opinion content written by randos from overseas paid a pittance to write authoritatively about stuff they don’t know, etc.

Google and Bing were always a little behind with the whackamole where a new kind of crap content would emerge, naturally rise to the top, and then get buried with a search relevance algorithm tweak.

In the past few years, they seem to have stopped trying to filter out the garbage content, but there was an upper limit to how much could be created to rank in search results. The advent of generative AI has changed the landscape dramatically by making it almost free to produce an infinite amount of garbage content. Orders of magnitude more crap. AND qualitatively different crap, because once you’re unconstrained by reality and start writing about Mustang trucks and 10-foot wide, 3-foot tall Corvettes, then you start ranking for a bazillion more search terms than you really deserve.

It’s messed up and y’all are fighting the good fight, but things are going to get worse before they get better.

Spyrius Robot
Spyrius Robot
4 months ago

Look, I’m sorry but I’m barely getting by as it is, I can’t really spare 10 loonies a month.

Colin Greening
Colin Greening
4 months ago
Reply to  Spyrius Robot

All the Classic Space factions were hit terribly hard back in the 90’s after the Star Wars license rolled out.

Zeppelopod
Zeppelopod
4 months ago
Reply to  Colin Greening

My buddies over in M-tron can’t even find crane heads for their Mega Core Magnetizer these days. Have you seen the prices of rare earths?!

Spikersaurusrex
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Spikersaurusrex
4 months ago
Reply to  Spyrius Robot

No shame in that. Just remember The Autopian when you’re in a place where you can afford to support.

*Jason*
*Jason*
4 months ago

The biggest thing that kept me from being a member was the horrible formatting in the comment section. It should either be threaded oldest on top / newest on bottom or at least give us an option to toggle.

It makes zero sense to have to scroll to the bottom, then scroll up to find the first comment, then read down the thread, then scroll up again, then read down the thread, again and again.

Why is it this way? It has the feel of a 90’s list serve. Is this something on your to-do list to improve the site or are you going for the 90’s list serve vibe?

I subscribed to with the recent discount to see if the subscription adds any value (for me it really doesn’t). I’d like to continue contributing – but your seemingly purposefully screwed up comment section is the sticking point. Thing can be overlooked on free sites that stick out a bit more when paying with actually real money instead of time and clicks.

Andreas8088
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Andreas8088
4 months ago

I’m more than happy to pay to support this site. Not only for the content, which is great, but for the community that you’ve continued to foster.
The transparency in how things are being done is also a breath of fresh air.

I will say, it would be nice if there was a tier between velour and RCL …. but hey, maybe that’s just me.

Methodjason
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Methodjason
4 months ago

OK, so this article put me over the edge — to being a member, at a level where I’m looking forward to the t-shirt.

Long time coming!

Russ McLean
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Russ McLean
4 months ago

At 81 years old, I am avoiding auto-renew. I want to keep my finances simple for my executor when my clock runs out.

After 3 years of avoiding a paying membership, I found a way.

  1. Click on “become a member” in the banner and sign up for a year at whatever level that you can afford.
  2. Click on “Account” in the banner
  3. Click on “Subscriptions” in the drop-down menu.
  4. Click on the unsubscribe option – You will be left with a paid-up year.
David Tracy
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David Tracy
4 months ago
Reply to  Russ McLean

Russ, THANK YOU. You are awesome.

Harveydersehen
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Harveydersehen
4 months ago
Reply to  Russ McLean

An excellent tip, if a little grim. Live long and prosper.

Bram Oude Elberink
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Bram Oude Elberink
4 months ago
Reply to  Russ McLean

I hope that you have to become a member a lot of times.

Voeltzwagen
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Voeltzwagen
4 months ago

Finally got around to updating my payment method so I could continue my membership!

M. Park Hunter
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M. Park Hunter
4 months ago

Long ago (late ‘90s) I was a freelance auto writer and photographer. It was tough then. I’ve watched every magazine I wrote for hit the ropes, including most recently AutoWeek. (sniffle…)

I can’t imagine the pressure on you today. I’m a glad subscriber / supporter who often skips the search and just comes straight here to see what tasty morsels the crew has served up.

Keep fighting the good fight.

Framed
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Framed
4 months ago

I’d buy a Mustang truck

HowDoYouCrash
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HowDoYouCrash
4 months ago

How do I upgrade my tier? Because holy heck, I’m not paying you enough.

Aaronaut
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Aaronaut
4 months ago
Reply to  HowDoYouCrash

It’s not the most intuitive thing in the world, but:

  1. Click the “Account” button at the top right
  2. Log in (by using the code they email to you)
  3. The Account pop up will appear: click the icon at the top right (3 horizontal lines)
  4. You’ll then see a “Change plans” button! Click it and take your pick
Eggsalad
Eggsalad
4 months ago

There are some futurists who predict that AI slop will be the death of the Internet, and there are also plenty of folks who say it’s already happened, but we’ll only recognize it in hindsight.

Balloondoggle
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Balloondoggle
4 months ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

Other than this site, I’m using the ‘net less and less for things that are not actual services and are just entertainment. News sites are worthless and have been for a long time. Trying to research a product results in being overwhelmed with opinions on features I’d never considered – and now I don’t even know if any of those opinions are based in any sort of reality. If it weren’t for the fact that certain apps provide useful services for me, I probably would have dropped out of the smart phone world a while ago. Maybe I’m just getting old, but the ‘net is becoming of less and less use to me.

Except YouTube for some reason. I never used to pay any attention to YT, but it has proven useful a number of times in learning new things and figuring out how to do some task that has stymied me. Yes, there’s a lot of mindless crap there but there are a lot of actually useful videos as well.

Livernois
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Livernois
4 months ago

Many people have noted how Google’s search results are increasingly going to slop, and one thing I’ve noticed is how much is almost identical slop. I can’t count the number of times I’ve searched for factual information and get oddball websites saying almost the same thing with no cites, rather than things like serious news sites, official government records, or publications from major academic institutions.

I’m not an expert so I don’t know how much is AI vs. people just running scripts that do massive data scraping. I realize SEO has been a thing for decades now. But there seems to be a clear effort by Google to change its algorithms to majorly deemphasize legitimate information sources.

Google pretty clearly thinks they can dominate an internet where there is no valid content, but they don’t seem to be just positioning themselves for that possibility, they’re accelerating it. But I think they may end up wishing they hedged their position more. History shows reality catches up with companies like Kodak and IBM who thought they owned the marketplace.

Harveydersehen
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Harveydersehen
4 months ago
Reply to  Livernois

Honestly I think Google and Bing legitimately got caught flatfooted by the gen AI explosion. Running AI detectors on all the content they index is computationally intensive and still not 100% reliable, so even if they completely filtered out content they thought was AI, there would be a lot of false negatives and we’d still see crap, and false positives and we would miss out on legitimate websites.

Meanwhile, crap mongers and model makers are finding new ways to make their AI crap undetectable, and generating billions of pages of crap every day.

It’s a hard problem to solve for Google and Microsoft, but they have unlimited money and the best scientists and engineers in the world, so there’s no excuse for completely missing the boat here.

SoWontLetMeKeepMyManual
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SoWontLetMeKeepMyManual
4 months ago
Reply to  Harveydersehen

I just want to say i absolutely love that you just used the phrase “crap monger”.
My wife and I will affectionately insult the other that they are a “crap monger. a buyer and seller of crap.”
Occasionally, swapping the word crap for turd.
Truly, it works for many “[silly thing] monger” constructions.

Harveydersehen
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Harveydersehen
4 months ago

Glad to be of service!

MarkC
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MarkC
4 months ago

Gladly upgraded just now! This place is fantastic, you’re all the best people (car or otherwise) around!

Times are weird, you all bring me a little joy everyday. Totally worth it!

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
4 months ago

With as Ancient Rome-obsessed as our tech overlords seem to be, they surely should be aware of the importance of bread and circuses in turning a Republic into a Caesardom.

Because between the president they bought seemingly being unable to shamble through a whole week without imposing another inflationary tariff on everyone and/or benefits cut on the poorest, and the tech overlords more directly pumping out this AI-powered Slop-pocalypse, they’re failing at both bread and circuses.

DAA567
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DAA567
4 months ago

Just upgraded my membership. And I’m a longtime EV driver (since 2014?) who couldn’t change the oil in my wife’s crossover if my life depended on it. Your content is that good. Keep it coming.

Harveydersehen
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Harveydersehen
4 months ago
Reply to  DAA567

Easily solved: she can just get an EV. Bam, no oil changes.

Sucktastico!
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Sucktastico!
4 months ago

Happy to support, and have for a couple of years. The well is only so deep though – between vinyl here, other things like Pro Publica and trying to feed the sites to fight the dystopia, only so much to go around. Going to keep the membership here – up on year 3 I think – but turnip is running out of juice.

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