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Google Is Why Grandpa Thinks A Mustang Truck Is Coming And It’s Why The Autopian Needs Your Help

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I like to say that advertising is not how we make money, but how we avoid losing money. But that’s no longer the case, because of what I suspect are changes to Google’s algorithm to promote utter crap instead of good original work. Our long-term goal is to improve our sustainability by leaning into membership, so this is going to be my biggest ask of the year: If you’re not a member yet and you love this website, please become a member.

This is the only way a site like ours can continue far into the future, given the recent change from Google. It’s not just us, of course, because other publishers are seeing the same thing. The difference is that we’re a member-supported business and have a lever to pull that most others do not.

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This all gets a little complex, so I’ll try to make what’s happened as simple to understand as possible. Because Google is a black box, I’m just inferring based on what I’ve seen and what other publishers are telling me.

Google Discover Has Been A Huge Help In Growing This Website

First, an acknowledgment. Jumping from a popular website to start a brand new one in 2022 was a brave move for Jason and David, and I have a deep respect for those two and Beau for embarking on this journey. It became a successful and beloved website faster than I could have ever imagined, looking in from the outside. It turns out there are a lot of people who miss websites that were written for people and not algorithms.

The algorithms are important, however. We do a great job of turning people into loyal readers and turning those loyal readers into members. It’s a wonderful thing. The challenge has always been finding new readers, especially when the old levers of social media are broken. We don’t have a long tail of search, a Facebook page that got millions of readers in the initial social heyday, or many of the other advantages competitors have.

Google, though, provided a wonderful tool for us. This was Google Discover. It’s a feed that appears across Google’s many products that’s personalized to you. Without doing anything other than publishing, we were rewarded for writing great and unique stories that people loved to read. We were rewarded primarily with traffic, and it helped us grow the site from something that was a fraction of the size of the industry stalwarts to a site that was recently bigger than many of them. For a few years, our site’s excellent work was rewarded in that it was put in front of the faces of many people, who clicked and enjoyed our work.

And then this significant chunk of our readership coming from Google Discover mostly stopped working, and it stopped working around the time that David had a baby and went on paternity leave. We first assumed it was a short-term blip caused by being overworked and understaffed; what we later learned is that it was likely a Google Core Update that reduced our visibility on the platform (on top of already seeing search traffic dropping because of what we suspect is an AI-related cause). Just look at this:

Google Disco Graph
Image: Chartbeat

That’s weekly traffic from Google Discover. You can pretty much see the moment when it happened. Suddenly, we went from having 4 million visits a month as measured by SimilarWeb — bigger than Road & Track, The Drive, and many much older publications — to 2-2.5 million. That’s a reduction of about 30-40%. To make it worse, when you drop down below a certain level, the amount you make per impression is less, so we’re being hit with the 1-2 punch of less traffic and lower rates.

What was great about Google Discover in the past was that it felt like a more even playing field. It was a place where our newness didn’t impact us as much because people clicked on our stories and read them. A lot! And then that changed. We don’t know why. We’re looking for technical fixes, but the fact is that this is happening to our competitors as well, so there may not be a specific or simple cure.

Here’s The Slop That Google Is Promoting Instead

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Screenshot: Marfeel

I did a trial with a company that provides a monitor of Google Discover traffic to surface which stories are doing well. You can see what’s working above in the automotive category, and it’s largely AI hallucinations coming from websites that are in the “MFA” or “Made for Advertising” category. [Editor’s Note: We did cover that DIY plate also, to be fair. – JT] This is the worst of the worst, with terrible interfaces, awful toe fungus ads, and content that is both made up and boring.

Mustang Slop
Screenshot: One Of These Sites

This is the opposite of what Google tells us to do, both in terms of presentation and content. There’s a helpful section of Google’s own publication guide that talks about the company’s desire to surface “helpful, reliable, people-first content.” I think you’d all agree that’s what we mostly do around here. There are even more specific guidelines, called E-E-A-T, that we have always naturally followed [Editor’s Note: One of my founding documents here established the “EE Rule,” which requires that all articles be enlightening or entertaining, ideally both. -DT]

Google’s automated systems are designed to use many different factors to rank great content. After identifying relevant content, our systems aim to prioritize those that seem most helpful. To do this, they identify a mix of factors that can help determine which content demonstrates aspects of experience, expertise, authoritativeness, and trustworthiness, or what we call E-E-A-T.

Of these aspects, trust is most important. The others contribute to trust, but content doesn’t necessarily have to demonstrate all of them. For example, some content might be helpful based on the experience it demonstrates, while other content might be helpful because of the expertise it shares.

I can’t even link to the sites that are being promoted because I don’t want to be associated with them, but it’s really bad, and little of the content there seems true, trustworthy, or written by or for humans. There is no Mustang Pickup truck coming, nor a 2026 Chevelle SS, and the new Corvette doesn’t look like this.

Corvette Slop
Screenshot: One Of These Sites

We can’t do this, obviously, and we wouldn’t. Not only does Google tell us it’s a bad idea, but as journalists, we are ethically opposed to it. I also think it’s long-term bad business. What is valuable is a genuine audience, and we’ve mostly built that.

One alternative is to do “Trending” stories that are mostly rewrites of TikTok stories. The biggest car website on the web (I won’t name them) does this. It’s not that any of the employees there like it, but it keeps the bills paid. Could we do that? The problem, when you look at the numbers, is that they’re pushing out 100-150 of these a month, and they’re only hitting about 2-3 times a month. That’s a terrible ratio, and we’d have to drown The Autopian with slop (even if it’s slop written by people, and not AI).

We may not always be the largest website, but our audience is real and we have more direct traffic than even some bigger sites:

Share Of Direct Traffic Chart
Screenshot: SimilarWeb

I’ve anonymized the data, but those are three other websites in our competitive set. We’ve been around the same size for the last year, although we’ve been bigger than the other sites at various points. You can see that we have a much larger share of direct traffic, even if organic (Google products) is lower. In general, we have a lot of direct traffic, which is good. We also have a lot of engaged time as people read our articles. Most of our stats have stayed approximately the same, and just to make it more confusing, we’ve performed better on Google News since Google rolled out the Core Update we think hit us.

There’s just more AI-powered slop, and human-powered slop, and it seems to be pushing out our human-made, non-slop writing.

We Were Kicking Butt, And Now We’re Kicking Less Butt

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I felt great in April, because it wasn’t quite clear that this was happening yet. We’d had a long run of sustainability as a business, and it seemed as though we’d succeeded in our original mission. Memberships and partnerships were growing faster than planned, and so long as we could stay roughly where we were with ad income, we’d be en route to a great year. We even turned off ads for members, because it didn’t seem like we needed that revenue.

Now, that source of once reliable traffic is way less reliable, for no discernible reason, and it’s knocked out one of the legs of the stool.

As I said above, my goal here is to get you to become a member if you can afford to and haven’t already. Based on traffic patterns, there are a lot of you who read this site daily. About 12% of you are members, which is awesome, and I’m so grateful we have that many. It allows us to paywall very few articles so that more people can read the site, and it has allowed us to hire great writers.

If we can go from 12% to 24% then we’ll cover a lot of the gap we now have to cover because of this loss of Discover traffic. If we can get to 33% we’ll be in a position to support more writers with freelance work and, hopefully, more full-time work.

No one has had a better chance to make a great car website than us, and I think we’ve done it. If this doesn’t work, I’ll be haunted by the reality that either we’re not smart enough to figure it out, or no one is, because it’s impossible. We’re so close to getting there, and any help you can provide will be returned with more of the kind of work that brought you here in the first place.

Thank you. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go read about the two vegetables that’ll kill all this arm fat, on the way to the Oldsmobile dealer to pick up my new Cutlass 442.

Top Photo: AI nonsense, Deposit Photos, Jason Torchinsky 

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Manwich Sandwich
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Manwich Sandwich
4 months ago

I’m gonna start clicking on the little 3 dots that are next to google searches and give feedback telling google to remove these results saying it’s false AI slop.

I think if a lot of people start doing that, it might just shut this fake AI slop down.. or at least mitigate it.

And that “TheAutoReport” channel is full of AI slop… reported/requested that at least some of their videos be removed for spreading misinformation and left feedback that the channel should be shut down.

Oh and I just signed up for ‘cloth membership’. I like cloth. Cloth is good.

Last edited 4 months ago by Manwich Sandwich
Sklooner
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Sklooner
4 months ago

Just have to get those imaginary cars that the Bishop does to appear real, or David’s ‘one trick to eating spaghetti they don’t wan’t you to know’ being articles here

Groover
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Groover
4 months ago
Reply to  Sklooner

Just do what the slop sites do and say they’re real!

Cyko9
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Cyko9
4 months ago

I’ll always take more human-generated slop from Autopians than anything else on the Net. And I’m not averse to some ads coming back for members. Keep up the good fight!

Strangek
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Strangek
4 months ago

I’ve definitely noticed Autopian articles showing up in my Google News feed recently. I don’t usually click on them as I prefer to go to the site directly. Is that good? I’m happy to click wherever to help! I’m also planning to upgrade my membership.

No Kids, Lots of Cars, Waning Bikes
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No Kids, Lots of Cars, Waning Bikes
4 months ago
Reply to  Strangek

I’d like an answer to this. I generally come straight to the site. But if an article pops in my feed I click it to give the site a little more traffic. Unsure if it does any good though.

Colin Greening
Colin Greening
4 months ago

I’m going to 3rd this. I always go straight to the site; I don’t even really read other auto publications.
On the other hand, I use the Brave browser and DDG as my search engine, so I don’t know if that would affect Google metrics in the first place.

DONALD FOLEY
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DONALD FOLEY
4 months ago
Reply to  Colin Greening

Fourth.

Red865
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Red865
4 months ago
Reply to  Strangek

Same here, Autopian occasionally shows up in my Google feed on my Pixel. I typically go direct to website vs. clicking the link.

Zags
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Zags
4 months ago

You got me, as well as all the comments here. Joined, Vinyl. Love the site, keep it up. I’m willing to support you all and pay for the amazing content you create for us. I don’t want to it end, so I’ll do my part.

Rusty Shackleford
Rusty Shackleford
4 months ago

Found this site using Google discover, but since the change on Google algorithms it is now ai slop and do not use discover anymore

DialMforMiata
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DialMforMiata
4 months ago

I have an idiot friend whom I have repeatedly had to inform that no, there’s no 2025 Trans Am coming and there is no such thing as a 2026 Karmann-Ghia. I try to block these myriad sites when they pop up in my feed but there are So. Damn. Many. of them. And yes, if you sell me swag, I will ABSOLUTELY buy swag. Take (more of) my money!

Username, the Movie
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Username, the Movie
4 months ago

I almost feel that the Google change was because you don’t have recursive slop/ads that feed other (bad/sketchy) websites to keep pumping the AI/slop/ad machines that Google also largely controls. I hope google can realize this shift in its lower quality of searches/hits, but it may take them a long time to come back around.
Thanks for the insight to the business, I will continue to be a member and tell others of this site’s greatness!

A Reader
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A Reader
4 months ago

I’m sold! What a battle. Hang in there.

Scott Alan Finkeldei
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Scott Alan Finkeldei
4 months ago

You all do the good work. I am now a member. Thanks for the article and appeal. It was helpful to learn about the inner workings and the situation you are in

Pilotgrrl
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Pilotgrrl
4 months ago

When I get a new job, I’ll upgrade to Velour.

Aaronaut
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Aaronaut
4 months ago

Happy to keep member-ing!

MATTinMKE
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MATTinMKE
4 months ago

I just read this article, and haven’t read all the comments yet, but isn’t swag the answer here? Sell us something Matt!

Jb996
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Jb996
4 months ago
Reply to  MATTinMKE

There have been requests, and early on there was a few shirts available somewhere, but I forget.

Most large successful YouTube channels make their money from 1) Patreon / membership, and 2) selling merch.

I’m not sure I would buy a ton, but probably something. Autopian’s style, Jason’s style, obscure esoteric topics, etc. I think lend them selves well to unique things.

Basher
Basher
4 months ago
Reply to  Jb996

While it can be risky to invest in merch, but thinking big will benefit. Blipshift does a great job at making well-designed shirts. 2046 Print Shop catches my eye with space-themed apparel. It would move from blog to affinity group.

Phonebem
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Phonebem
4 months ago
Reply to  Basher

With print on demand services, would merch (t-shirts, window decals, etc.) really be that big an investment aside from the actual designs? Honest question, this is kind of outside my wheelhouse.

Last edited 4 months ago by Phonebem
Colin Greening
Colin Greening
4 months ago
Reply to  Phonebem

With my limited experience, POD would probably result in some pretty damn expensive t-shirts on our end. Custom printing can be pretty pricey unless you’re buying in large volumes.

Basher
Basher
4 months ago
Reply to  Phonebem

Fair idea, but in my experience, the printing is less desirable. I’ve paid more than I’d admit for t-shirts, but I don’t mind since they’re of nice quality with great design and witty humor. To me, it’s a move to lifestyle focus blog which could boost readership along with long-form videos/stories

Phonebem
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Phonebem
4 months ago
Reply to  Basher

This is true, print-to-order typically has a cheaper feel and lesser overall quality.
Maybe split the difference and do something similar to BigTime and essentially have preorders then have batches printed based on the preorders? I’m speaking for myself but I think a lot of us would agree that a bit of a wait would be an acceptable tradeoff for quality shirts at a decent price while supporting the site.

Basher
Basher
4 months ago
Reply to  Phonebem

That’s a fair compromise. The site has good humor and frivolity – I think the creative juices would result in some great designs.

Phonebem
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Phonebem
4 months ago
Reply to  Basher

Their member shirts have been delightfully weird.

MATTinMKE
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MATTinMKE
4 months ago
Reply to  Jb996

I bought a shirt from the first batch, but unfortunately someone in this household shrunk it badly. Would love another.

Username, the Movie
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Username, the Movie
4 months ago
Reply to  MATTinMKE

Agreed, I would definitely buy more Autopian merch. I have never wanted to do that for any other site/brand etc.

Strangek
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Strangek
4 months ago
Reply to  MATTinMKE

Totally.

Icouldntfindaclevername
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Icouldntfindaclevername
4 months ago

The Autopian needs a merch site big time. Look at what the RoadKill guys are doing. They push their merch on all platform all the time. I bought the license plate frame from you guys. Get your merch site back up and push it on all platforms

Jakob K's Garage
Jakob K's Garage
4 months ago

There’s a YouTube AI BS “launch/reveal” video on almost any old car you can ever think of, even my 1991 Nissan Figaro.. Is AI so fast, that it can gererate one and show it seconds after you’ve searched for one?

Stupid people on car forums, typically Facebook groups, share these, and someone gets some clicks/revenue and the rest of us just get annoyed 🙁

Last edited 4 months ago by Jakob K's Garage
Fiji ST
Fiji ST
4 months ago

I’ve been seeing this a lot on YouTube as well. They’re usually so badly done, but people are commenting on them which is quite scary.

Jakob K's Garage
Jakob K's Garage
4 months ago
Reply to  Fiji ST

It’s so stupid. But I guess there is a market for it…
Even searchable on stone cold car brands like Saab, Simca or Borgward 😀

Jakob K's Garage
Jakob K's Garage
4 months ago

I tried to go nuts with YT search on “2026” and then the craziest and most dead cars I could think of, and got hits on (among others) Bristol, Tatra, Magirus, Ural, Cord, Edsel, Duesenberg, Trabant, Armstrong Siddeley, Wartburg. All the same bad AI BS with few views, created within a short time.

So can bad AI BS content creators buy information from YouTube about what people search for? And am I now guilty of feeding a demand for bad AI BS videos?

Red865
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Red865
4 months ago
Reply to  Fiji ST

Even more frustrating is that just a few comments in, several people will point out that it fake/AI slop, but the morons just ignore those and keep spreading the slop because they want ‘to believe it’? Sorta like our current political landscape.

Last edited 4 months ago by Red865
Mercedes Streeter
Mercedes Streeter
4 months ago

AI is fast, but there’s still a human involved. Basically, there are channels where someone just does nothing but enter AI prompts into different programs, uploads the slop to YouTube, and hits publish. They can “create” at an alarming pace because they aren’t fact-checking anything and let AI handle the entire operation from start to finish.

Jakob K's Garage
Jakob K's Garage
4 months ago

So you can’t just prompt one AI one time to prompt another AI to make as many as possible forever, yet? 😉

Tim Farrell
Tim Farrell
4 months ago

Ok, came here because I just got the whiney email about Google discover jacking with your impressions. First, don’t become dependent on a single source for impressions, spread it around.

I for one have a Pixel phone but never use or allow Discover to come up on it. I find it annoying at best and trash most of the time. I love the phone otherwise but discover is BS.

Where I do see Autopian content the most, FB. I routinely see articles of interest from you all there. Not a huge fan of the book of faces but I do follow car things on it. I don’t mind ads being thrown at me. When I get tired of them I’ll member up.

Highland Green Miata
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Highland Green Miata
4 months ago

Matt, this has always been the problem with the web business model of someone else deciding if your site is worthy of sending traffic your way. One change in the algorithm and you’re sunk if that’s your only cashflow stream. Thankfully you have loyal readers willing to pony up. Why don’t you promote gift subscriptions around the holidays just for members to buy?

Aaronaut
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Aaronaut
4 months ago
Reply to  Matt Hardigree

(Take it with a grain of salt, as I’m not in this line of work but:) a merch store would be a profit center too, no?

I’ve shelled out for YouTubers like Mighty Car Mods and BigTime, as well as some fav podcasts because they made a funny and/or nice-looking thing to wear or stick onto stuff.

TheHairyNug
TheHairyNug
4 months ago
Reply to  Aaronaut

Great Autopian merch could be very desirable if done right

19Willys55
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19Willys55
4 months ago
Reply to  Matt Hardigree

Matt, Just joined! Officially a member:)

Strangek
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Strangek
4 months ago
Reply to  Matt Hardigree

Yay! I’ll tell my wife to buy me something from the merch store for my birthday. Also Christmas.

Brandon Forbes
Brandon Forbes
4 months ago
Reply to  Matt Hardigree

That’s exciting news!

Colin Greening
Colin Greening
4 months ago
Reply to  Matt Hardigree

This is excellent, just in time for Christmas and my birthday. I will be badgering my wife, parents, and in-laws about this when they ask what I’d like 😛

MaximillianMeen
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MaximillianMeen
4 months ago
Reply to  Matt Hardigree

Yeah, my membership has been a gift from my mom for the past two years, and soon to be three. For old farts like me who don’t really need anything for Christmas, birthdays, National Clean Underwear Day, etc., an Autopian membership is, as Cousin Eddie would say, the gift that keeps on givin’!

Boulevard_Yachtsman
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Boulevard_Yachtsman
4 months ago

Not only is The Autopian the best site for automotive information on the internet, turns out you guys are the best site for internet information on the internet.

I had grown to really like Google Discover on my Pixel. I opened up Chrome and there seemed to be a remarkably interesting selection of news and information to check out. Plus, The Autopian showed up quite a bit which always made me smile.

Lately though, it’s been “check out the new Cadillac AI render of a thing vaguely resembling a Cadillac”. Not to mention all of the other slop and repackaged articles that seem to resemble something I’d have read a week ago, but with the words in the title switched around.

Earlier this week I scrolled all the way to the bottom of the feed without actually clicking on anything. Guess it’s back to going to sites directly. Doesn’t seem like the best move on Google’s part.

SAABstory
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SAABstory
4 months ago

Stupid grandpa, believing AI slop. Wait, I’m a grandpa. At least I’m reading the Autopian so I know there’s no Mustang truck.

I am waiting for 90% of the Bishop’s stuff, tho.

Seriously, the comments make me feel better about society these days. The folks who comments before me get it. We know Google’s been screwing everyone for years, but in new and creative ways. AI isn’t helping, Doctorow’s enshittification is in full effect, so thank heavens the Autopian exists. When the apocalypse happens we’ll really form Jasonia. Think about it, with all the skills from the commenters, not to mention how many shitboxes we all have, we’ll be the ones keeping cars/trucks/etc alive.

That’s funny but slightly depressing so, again, keep it going Autopian staff.

Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
4 months ago

I just want to say that my membership here is the only subscription I dig into my pockets to pay for. That’s how much I appreciate what you all are doing here.

Jb996
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Jb996
4 months ago
Reply to  Shop-Teacher

Yes, that is my endorsement of their quality too. I don’t have any subscriptions otherwise. No video on demand sites, no news, no YouTube paying, no Patreon, etc.
The Autopian is my one membership.

Thanks guys! You are well worth it.

Brandon Forbes
Brandon Forbes
4 months ago
Reply to  Shop-Teacher

Same. I have been on the fence about purchasing into like Reuters so I can get a reliably neutral news source, but I just can’t convince myself to click the button.

Phonebem
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Phonebem
4 months ago
Reply to  Shop-Teacher

I do this and Defector.com, both delicious fruit from the same rotten tree that was G/O Media.

Spanfeller’s still a herb…

Last edited 4 months ago by Phonebem
Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
4 months ago
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The herbiest.

Tom Dugan
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Tom Dugan
4 months ago

Subscribed, thanks for the work y’all.

J G
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J G
4 months ago

TLDR: I subscribed. Figured I like and read this site enough I can pay for automotive journalism. I used to pay for Car & Driver for years, but their writing lost its je ne sais quoi in the last decade and I stopped subscribing 4 years ago. My request if I can make one, would be regular (boring) car reviews. It feels like everyone now days reviews super cars and the “R” version of everything. I’m not subscribing to the Luddites at consumer reports. Perhaps you guys can get press junket cars like an accord and camry and pit them against each other on a weekend trip to big bear? Thank you all!

Last edited 4 months ago by J G
Toomanyfumes
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Toomanyfumes
4 months ago
Reply to  J G

I stopped subcribing to Car & Driver when they went down to 6 issues a year. And one is the lightning lap where one supercar is half a second quicker than the other. I subscribed to Autopian so I have entertaining content to read evey day.

J G
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J G
4 months ago
Reply to  Toomanyfumes

Yes! The 6 issues a year thing was also a contributing factor in not re-upping.

Jb996
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Jb996
4 months ago
Reply to  J G

Welcome!

I would read most anything coming from the writers here, and you are right, when shopping (usually on the used market), no one really drives and reviews practical daily driver cars anymore. At least not anyone I want to read.

There have been a few car reviews on here, but that’s usually part of a press-junket big experience/event with a loaner from the company. Do automotive writers ever just go down to their nearest dealer, test drive a normal car, and write about how good/bad it is? I feel like the writers here could make something that mundane very informative and entertaining.

Professor Chorls
Professor Chorls
4 months ago
Reply to  J G

Regular Car Reviews you say…

Phonebem
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Phonebem
4 months ago

RCR is a whole other kind of kink…

That said, Mr. Regular and The Roman are responsible for some classic internet car memes…

Colin Greening
Colin Greening
4 months ago
Reply to  Phonebem

Personally I think Roman is the best part of RCR these days. One man’s opinion but the channel doesn’t feel as charming as it used to, and I can’t quite put my finger on why.

Professor Chorls
Professor Chorls
4 months ago
Reply to  Colin Greening

The channel has definitely evolved a lot from its purely potty humor oriented days. Rubs some people the wrong way, others find it more insightful and relevant.

Colin Greening
Colin Greening
4 months ago

I’m not sure it’s even that. Crude humor wears me out after awhile, and I find the Roman Report excellent; in fact it’s pretty much the only part of the channel I still watch. Hence, I can’t put my finger on what it is that doesn’t appeal to me anymore.

Professor Chorls
Professor Chorls
4 months ago
Reply to  Colin Greening

It varies. Mr. Regular leaning too much on generational humor (boomer takes and tropes) lost me some, but in exchange, they’ve gotten more interactive with their fanbase and community and also more true to his roots. Roman’s reporting is definitely spot on.

GizmonicLoadingBay
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GizmonicLoadingBay
4 months ago

I am always willing to pay for good journalism – previous generations bought newspaper subscriptions. I’ve settled on the Autopian, Defector, and a few cycling specific sites to get deep dives on the stuff I love. It’s worth every penny for the quality of journalism, and it’s a bonus to have such welcoming and knowledgeable communities in the comments. Usually.

Also, the one or two times a year I see Torch driving around town in something crazy are a double bonus.

Phonebem
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Phonebem
4 months ago

one or two times a year I see Torch driving around town in something crazy

What level of membership gets this perk?

GizmonicLoadingBay
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GizmonicLoadingBay
4 months ago
Reply to  Phonebem

Local perk of southern college town livin’. Heck of a coincidence!

Zipn Zipn
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Zipn Zipn
4 months ago

Timing for asking for $$$ is pretty bad right now for most of us (a Grandfather “PawDad” now on fixed income with Trump’s economy in a death spiral, everything going up (groceries, medical bills and insurances), and now the holidays around the corner.

It can be hard for some of us to free up the full tank of cash required for even the lowest tier right now.

Suggestion.. set up an auto-pay program. Call it the “Drive-through” level where instead of hitting it all at one time maybe just $5 a monthly auto-deduct/auto bill? That’s just $60 and less than a crappy burnt cup of coffee at the airport!

That’s pretty much doable for most of us even now as we get into the end of the year.

My favorite radio station (WEVL FM) is all volunteer and relies on donations to survive. They have a monthly payment plan that works very well for them.

You may also consider setting up some type of Gift Package – have a subscription configured as a e-gift that someone can buy and send off to a fellow gearhead.

Thanks! Keep up the good work. I’m not ready to grovel before our AI robot overlords quite yet.

Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
4 months ago
Reply to  Zipn Zipn

I believe they do offer a monthly way to pay instead of all at once.

Zipn Zipn
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Zipn Zipn
4 months ago
Reply to  Shop-Teacher

I didn’t see it but I’m a grandpa so I missed it 🙂

I see it now. It’s the MONTHLY button. SWEET

Last edited 4 months ago by Zipn Zipn
Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
4 months ago
Reply to  Zipn Zipn

Excellent! 🙂

Highland Green Miata
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Highland Green Miata
4 months ago
Reply to  Zipn Zipn

It’s $7 a month. The price of a extra fancy coffee that you probably don’t buy either (nor do I).

Zipn Zipn
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Zipn Zipn
4 months ago

Yep I see that now – as well as the GIFT option too.

FWIW I’ve just joined up too.

Bleeder
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Bleeder
4 months ago
Reply to  Zipn Zipn

Welcome!

Beachbumberry
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4 months ago

While I can’t go full Corinthian (where are yall even getting DT rust from at this point?) I’m thinking about upping. My Lego autopian shirt is comfortably my favorite shirt (yall didn’t skimp on the quality) and I have my sticker on my desk next to my flight patches because it’s just cool. The grill badge would be neat.

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