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Honda Will Sell You A Cute Rodent Repellant Tape That’s Coated In Chili Pepper And Tastes Like ‘Heat’

Honda Rodent Tape Ts

If you’re reading this, you probably know Honda as a company that sells cars. But it sells a lot of other things, too. Motorcycles, generators, lawnmowers, boat engines, airplanes, ATVs, side-by-sides, and even robots.

Honda also sells a product called “rodent tape.” Like me when I first read those words in tandem, I’m sure you’re thinking to yourself, “Tape made from rodents? That seems pretty gross.[Ed note: And no, it’s not for repairing or adhering rodents. Sorry! – Pete] Alas, rodent tape is, to my surprise, not made from rodents. It is made for rodents.

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Not for rodents to enjoy, though. Actually, the opposite. Rodent tape, despite its inviting tone, is made specifically for rodents to dislike it. It does this in two distinct ways, one of which I presume is far more effective than the other.

Adorable And Threatening At The Same Time

The purpose of rodent tape is to deter rodents from chewing through wires—a problem owners are faced with as rats, mice, squirrels, rats, and others find their way under the hoods of cars. Honda came up with the anti-mouse device to fix damage stemming from animals chewing through its wiring. It works as a shield that protects the wiring from future damage:

Honda Rodent Tape 3
Source: CollegeHillsHonda.com

The tape’s existence was first highlighted in 2016 when owners filed a federal class-action lawsuit against Honda, claiming they shouldn’t have had to pay for the repairs out of pocket. From NBC News:

The breach of warranty lawsuit, filed last week in Los Angeles and first reported by Courthouse News Service, results from the automaker’s quest to “go green” by using soy-based biodegradable wire coating. The coating costs less than plastic but does have a downside, according to lead plaintiff Daniel Dobbs of Wyoming.

In the lawsuit, Dobbs alleged that he had to pay twice to have chewed-up wires in his 2012 Honda Accord replaced at a Honda dealership. The second time, he said, mechanics wrapped the wires in special tape intended to deter rodents, demonstrating that Honda is aware of the issue.

That lawsuit was eventually dismissed, but to this day, Honda will still sell you individual 60-foot rolls of the rodent tape through its original Equipment manufacturer parts supply network. Like every other OEM Honda part, it comes in a plastic bag with big red HONDA labels (the tape itself is made by Teraoka, a 105-year-old Japanese company known for making all kinds of tapes).

 

 

 

Honda Rodent Tape
Source: eBay

Here’s a statement Honda sent over via email clarifying why it offers the tape, and why rats might target wiring harnesses, even if they’re not soy-based:

It is a long established fact that rodents are drawn to chew on electrical wiring in homes, cars, or anywhere else where they may choose to nest. This rodent damage occurs across the auto industry and is not related to a specific brand or model. Honda introduced a rodent-deterrent tape a few years ago to help combat this age-old issue for customers who live in areas where rodents have caused prior damage. This tape is available through Honda dealers and can be wrapped around wiring if a customer so chooses. It contains Capsaicin, an active component of chili peppers.

Honda sources parts, including electrical wiring and wire harnesses, from several different suppliers who each have their own proprietary formula for wire insulation and wire harnesses. Honda is not aware of studies or information indicating that any of the wiring insulation or other components used for Honda vehicles are derived from substances that attract rodents or increase their propensity to chew on wiring or other components in engine compartments. It is Honda’s understanding that rodents may seek shelter in engine components and once inside, can cause damage as a natural result of their need to chew and use material that has been chewed for nesting. Honda is not aware of any information suggesting rodents use wire insulation as a food source.

Free Will Makes People Do Strange Things Sometimes

From what I can tell, Honda’s rodent tape uses two methods of deterrence to keep rodents at bay.

The first are silhouettes of dead mouse corpses printed on top of the tape strip (you can tell they’re corpses from the “X” symbols where the eyes should be). If I were a mouse, seeing this would be like seeing a skull and crossbones, which would probably be enough to scare me away. Mice are one of the few mammals that pass the mirror test, meaning they can recognize their own reflections. So there’s a small possibility these drawings might actually work (though I have my doubts).

Honda Rodent Tape 1
Source: HondaPartsOnline.net

The other, much more effective form of deterrence appears on the sticky side of the tape. According to Honda, the tape is treated with a material called capsaicin, which, according to WebMD, is the chemical component in chili peppers that makes them hot. Rodents hate the stuff, apparently, which deters them from chomping into wires covered in it.

After finding this out, I briefly wondered what this tape might taste like. Surely it wouldn’t taste good, but seeing as it has chili pepper products in it, it would certainly taste like something, right? Thankfully, I don’t have to wonder. By summoning the power of the internet, I’ve found not one, but two different people who have actually tasted Honda’s rodent tape and documented their experiences online.

The first instance comes from Liz Cook, a food writer whose work has appeared in places like the BBC, Eater, and Bon Appétit. Back in 2021, she documented a taste test of the tape on her personal Substack blog, making the rodent deterrant sound … kinda appealing?

It smelled like a Band-Aid-flavored Rockstar Energy drink. It tasted like…heat. The capsaicin was subtler than I expected: nothing abrasive or punishing, just a blushing, ambient warmth like a string of white Christmas lights. There was almost a numbing, mala element, in the vein of a Sichuan peppercorn.

The other taste test comes to us from Zack Nelson, host of the popular YouTube channel JerryRigEverything. He published a YouTube Short back in 2024, trying out the tape, but left a bit underwhelmed. If you can’t see the embedded video above, here’s a quote that sums up his thoughts:

Honestly, not that potent. This whole roll is less spicy than one single pepper that you would get at Subway. It tastes almost like regular electrical tape and I would seriously doubt its ability to deter any rodents.

While the level of capsaicin in Honda’s rodent tape clearly isn’t enough to discomfort humans, it’s likely more than enough to keep mice and rats away, seeing as how Honda requires technicians use it to repair chewed-through wires, per official repair documentation. Off-brand versions, seemingly made by the same brand, also have overwhelmingly positive reviews on Amazon.

So if you find out your wires have been gnawed at by mice, perhaps consider this Honda part to protect them. And just so we’re clear: Please do not try ingesting it. Let the rats do that.

Top graphic images: Honda; Disney (but it’s the public-domain Mickey, so no worries)

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Phuzz
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Phuzz
1 month ago

This is what cats are for. Even if they don’t manage to kill all the mice/rats, just the smell of a cat will keep them away most of the time.
Sure cats make great pets, but they can also be working animals too.

Dirtywrencher
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Dirtywrencher
1 month ago
Reply to  Phuzz

You can also order Coyote Urine on line and it’s a good rodent deterrent. Soak it into old balled up socks. Sounds nasty but it’s not really that bad, it’s just that they recognize it as from a natural predator.

DNF
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DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  Phuzz

Opened the hood on the Camry once and my tiny Mystery Kittens were snoozing on top of the plastic engine cover.
They had found a very safe place!
Anyone else wonder why aren’t infusing pepper or other chemicals into wire insulation?
Some companies do.

Alex Vakulich
Alex Vakulich
1 month ago

From an Amazon review of the non-Honda version, it seems that just licking the tape isn’t really representative of the way it delivers the capsacin:

The tape is designed in layers with mini-capsules of capsicum chili pepper extract inside the tape that bursts open when chewed on by rodents. There’s no spice on the outside of the tape.

N541x
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N541x
1 month ago

Toyota/Lexus has the same thing, but instead of capsaicin they are filled with dexcon to kill the rodents—and it doesn’t work.

Honda and Toyota products use wiring harnesses made of a soy derivative. People think that’s why they attack it—for taste… but NO. It’s actually because they like how it feels as their teeth are growing in.

Anyway, I bought $40 of this stuff last week for a non-Honda because nothing will work to get the mice out of a brand new Lexus RX I know of. The lady’s husband just died and I’m just trying to help her with these rats to mixed results. I’ll find out soon!

DNF
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DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  N541x

Pure peppermint oil and other smells will help.
Naptha moth balls are an old favourite, but might be objectionable in a car.

*Jason*
*Jason*
1 month ago

I have 3 of those rodent repellent LED lights / ultrasonic noisemaker things on my ambulance as it has about 5 miles of wiring in / under it. So far no problems with mice or squirrels even though it doesn’t get driven a lot. One in the engine compartment and two underneath.

So either it works at they hate the lights or they are too busy dancing to a mouse disco rave to bother chewing on wires.

Cayde-6
Cayde-6
1 month ago

Rodents have chewed through the windshield wiper fluid tubing on my Honda THREE times in the 8 years since I bought it. I need to ask them if they’ve put this stuff on

JokesOnYou
JokesOnYou
1 month ago

my buddy was growing jalapenos. they were repeatedly getting eaten by a rat that was living nearby.

GirchyGirchy
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GirchyGirchy
1 month ago
Reply to  JokesOnYou

One of our cats had a habit of chewing through thin wiring; his favorites were the low-voltage stuff behind our A/V cabinet.

The first attempt at deterrent was rubbing hot sauce on the wires. This only added flavor, making them more appealing to the cat while also making them slightly disgusting.

I gave up and hid them all.

Bags
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Bags
1 month ago
Reply to  GirchyGirchy

We use a combination of the corrugated wire loom stuff, no-chew tape (the stuff vets use post-surgery to cover the bandage), and all our usb charging cables are metal wrapped versions. It’s annoying. The problem is that she’s smart – she does it when she wants our attention because she’s hungry or something.

GirchyGirchy
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GirchyGirchy
1 month ago
Reply to  Bags

And she’s probably hungry all the time.

The corrugated stuff is ok but still somewhat tasty. I used a combination of a hinged wooden cover screwed to the back of the cabinet, PVC pipes behind the TV, and nylon sheath that wraps around the cables and is held together with velcro. We use it at work to protect cables and pneumatic tubing from abrasion on robots.

DNF
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DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  GirchyGirchy

There is metal Velcro too

DNF
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DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  Bags

I have a cat that learned how to turn the lights on and off.
I hide the keys from that one

GirchyGirchy
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GirchyGirchy
1 month ago
Reply to  DNF

One of our other ones learned how to open our cabinets – one’s where we keep the kibble, the other is the trash bin. We found out about the kibble when we came home to two slightly chubby cats who didn’t want their dinner, and later saw the instigator trying to eat god knows what out of the trash.

They now have child-proof locks on them; and the good tight magnetic ones, not the simple clip style, because she’s small and was able to still squeeze past those. Sigh.

Bags
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Bags
1 month ago
Reply to  DNF

The same cat reaches up and paws at the door knobs. Luckily knobs are hard without thumbs – if we had handles it would be game over. Like the raptors in Jurassic Park.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  Bags

My mother installed lever door handles on all the doors in her house. When she went out one of her cats would open the door to a closed room, chase all the other cats into that room, then close the door locking them in.
Sometimes the smart cat would let the other cats outdoors then lock them outside.

The other thing that cat would do was open a door then climb up to the top and sit on the top of the door until someone walked through the door and it would jump on their head.

DNF
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DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  GirchyGirchy

I’ve met cats that will fight you to eat wasabi.
It’s very odd!

4004
4004
1 month ago

Reminded me of the marderschutz kit BMW (and others eg VAG until more recently) would sell in the 90s, which mostly consisted of a capacitor and some electric wire. Not as kind to rodents, but had some cool stickers (still trying to buy one of these kits)

SPB
SPB
1 month ago

“It tastes almost like regular electrical tape” is not a sentence I ever expected to read.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  SPB

As opposed to band aid flavor energy drink?

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago

I just realized that I know exactly what bandaids taste like, but have no idea what energy drinks taste like.

JJ
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JJ
1 month ago
Reply to  SPB

came to say the same.

TDI in PNW
TDI in PNW
1 month ago
Reply to  SPB

Those “DO NOT EAT” packets of silica gel that we all(?) wonder why that would need to be printed on them. My money’s on the people who eat band-aids and know what electrical tape tastes like.

MiniDave
MiniDave
1 month ago

I just bought two rolls of this stuff after squirrels and or chipmunks destroyed some of the wiring in one of my Audi Allroads, cost me almost $3K to have the dealer diagnose, find, and repair all the damage they did.

I figured $60 worth of tape might be worth the investment after that.

BTW it’s not just that the tape is infused with the pepper, it also smells heavily of peppermint, which I’m told will ward them off too.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago

A guy who tests mousetraps and repellants out on youtube tried highly concentrated capsaicin out as a deterrent. He set up a control pile of seeds and a capsaicin pile. They mostly ate the plain one first, but they ate both piles so I have my doubts this will help much, particularly if it doesn’t completely cover the scent of whatever it is that’s attracting them in the first place.

I know it’s a joke, but I want to take this time to express my hatred for mice—they are f’n foul, horrible creatures that are thankfully dumb as all hell and the sight of a real dead mouse doesn’t even slow them down (they’ll even mate with corpses), never mind a cartoon one. Mouse trap guy also invented his own trap called the Dizzy Dunker. It’s a combination of a walk-the-plank and rolling log that looks like a paddle wheel and they work tremendously well. Bait it with peanut butter and jelly or whatever once a month or even longer and leave it alone (the bait seems to attract them more when it isn’t fresh). There’s a cover over the wheel to keep the bait there and out of the rain if you use it outside like I usually do and an entrance that funnels them onto the paddles near the axis so they’re more likely to put the balance of their weight onto the paddle before it spins them into the bucket. Only issue is that it needs a bucket, so they’re not compact or hidden, though the weight (if water is added to make it a kill trap) also prevents it being stolen by night critters smelling out a snack. I put mine behind a bush and partly bury the bottom 5″ as something did knock it over once trying to access the mouse soup, but they didn’t damage anything. I lost track, but I’m somewhere over 70 mice over the last couple years. I check the trap every couple weeks, so the later ones to die swim around in fetid water filled with the rotting corpses of previous mice like the Hell of the Upside Down Sinners in Big Trouble in Little China. If you have sympathy I completely lack for these miserable monsters, check it more often. No matter how old the bodies, after I dump them in the woods, they disappear within hours, even during the day. Anyway, I’d set one of these up near where I park instead of bothering with this tape.

Last edited 1 month ago by Cerberus
Gaston
Gaston
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

Need to try this. I have been waging an uphill battle with voles for the last 5 years.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  Gaston

If they’re mouse-sized, it should work, though you could try cutting out a larger hole in the entrance guards on the trap and see if it still works if they’re larger vermin.

DV
DV
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

The ramp-and-bucket method with sunflower seeds to drown squirrels has been a well-trod method.

Jack Trade
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Jack Trade
1 month ago

“Tastes like ‘Heat'”?

So like existential but stylish characters and grittily choreographed shootouts? Do rats not like to feel that around the corner?

Last edited 1 month ago by Jack Trade
M SV
M SV
1 month ago

Some of wire lube or water proofing like a silicone used by Honda looks and smells like peanut butter. I’ve seen it really packed into door harnesses. I bet that is part of the issue. I know a guy that kept having issues with chewing and used pepper spray and spray on the trouble area. It worked. They make this spray called granpa gus that is basically just cinnamon and clove oils with a surfectant I’ve tried that for rodents and it seems to work fine without smelling like a war zone.

A. Barth
A. Barth
1 month ago

“It tastes like burning.” – R. Wiggum

SegaF355Fan
SegaF355Fan
1 month ago
Reply to  A. Barth

But you left out the rest of the quote:
“I want more.”

A. Barth
A. Barth
1 month ago
Reply to  SegaF355Fan

I was drawing a parallel between Ralph’s line and the headline.

The rest of the quote/scene/episode was not relevant.

Andrea Petersen
Andrea Petersen
1 month ago

I am easily as capsaicin-sensitive as a baby mouse (I won’t even eat bell peppers) so I think I would be the perfect test human to determine if it’s spicy to rodents, if paid correctly.

OttosPhotos
OttosPhotos
1 month ago

But…bell peppers don’t have capsaicin?

Andrea Petersen
Andrea Petersen
1 month ago
Reply to  OttosPhotos

They are spicy, and I will not hear otherwise!

PhilaWagon
PhilaWagon
1 month ago

I have a roll of this stuff in the toolbox. Used it once on my Civic when they got my EPS harness, and a second time on my Cayman when I saw some ECU harness nibbles while changing air filters.

Ottomottopean
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Ottomottopean
1 month ago

A coworker of mine had a Mercedes SUV with the dreaded soy-based wiring. He had squirrels go to town on it as he did not park it in the garage since he used half the garage for junk storage. He had only had the car for six months.

His insurance company wanted to total the car as the repairs covered wiring from front to back and just about had to have the entire interior, dash and everything removed in addition to all the under-hood wiring repairs. He fought the insurance company for a month and they agreed to fix the car.

During the six weeks or so it took for the repairs he worked to clean out the garage, throwing a bunch of stuff out, moving stuff to the attic etc. He got the car back and was happily parking the car in his clean garage (I’ll never understand using the garage for storage instead of having a nice place to park my car) for the next two months or so only to have the squirrels chew through the garage door gasket and get in and do it all over again.

Mercedes not having some solution to the wiring insulation that rodents would not eat is something I would have probably sued the company over. At the very least they could have bought the tape from Honda! But maybe they did do something and it didn’t work, just like I suspect this tape would have limited effectiveness.

I never did hear if Brian got the Mercedes fixed the second time or if they totaled it.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  Ottomottopean

If I parked outside, I’d get chipmunks in the engine compartment where they’d eat these little round seeds that I don’t know the origin of and leave a big pile on top of the engine. Thankfully, maybe because the car gets used daily, they never caused any damage. Mice were largely responsible for me losing my favorite car when they got inside and made nests. Hate is a strong word, but not strong enough to describe my feelings for them. Their only redeeming quality is that they’re food for a ton of cool animals.

Ottomottopean
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Ottomottopean
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

Ugh, I had mice or rats in the frunk of my Boxster, chewed a bunch of the foam insulation to make its nest. Luckily I took the car in for service and they found it before there was too much damage but it came with a heavy repair cost. Then the cost to repair the garage where they were getting in which wasn’t awful but still.

I’m with you on the rat-hate. I don’t like killing a living thing. I try and avoid killing bugs other than mosquitos. But rats and mice just don’t stop if you don’t take drastic measures. Damn those things.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  Ottomottopean

Same here. I even saved a dragonfly that had gotten some spider webbing on it in the garage and was trying unsuccessfully to get airborne. I got at it with an X-acto knife, carefully cleaning the web as best I could, minus its eyes as there was no way I could safely do that. At first, it panicked, but I guess it either resigned itself to die or understood that I was helping and it stopped moving so I could get the strands off, which took a fair amount of time. When it was able to fly away, it landed nearby and cleaned its eyes itself, then it flew around me a few times and away, which was pretty cool. Plus, they eat mosquitoes and deerflies. I also hate ticks. Speaking of the deerflies, in season, they swarm the car like a cloud as I pull up at home, but if a dragonfly shows up, they disappear like magic.

My sympathy is switched off for mice. Never had trouble with rats, but we did have rat-sized voles causing problems at the old house. I used that poison bait on them and it worked, but when I saw one going in circles in the driveway during the day that screamed like I never thought one could when I tried to push it onto the lawn, I felt pretty bad. That stuff also kills upstream animals that eat them, but I didn’t know that at the time. Either way, I never used that stuff again.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  Ottomottopean

It’s better getting rid of the rodents prior to them dining on your electric work. Tomcat does a good job

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  Ottomottopean

My sister had nearly $40,000 of damage to her boxster by mice. It would have been totaled if it didn’t take so many repairs to find the next broken thing.

DNF
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DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

You’re just not far enough into the country to have serious predators chasing the rodents.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  DNF

I’m surrounded by beaver ponds and town forest. There was a great blue heron rookery on an island in one of the ponds before the town removed one of the dams and water levels fell, allowing the numerous coyotes, foxes, and whatever else eats eggs and baby herons easy access. While generally considered to mainly eat water animals, the GBHs also hunt rodents as I’ve seen them doing that on the driveway (it’s wooded, 1/4 mile long, and runs along one of the ponds). I have trail cam footage of a coyote carrying the front half of a cat (also, northeast coyotes commonly have mixed wolf DNA, so they’re bigger than other parts of the country), one watched me from the wood line one night, and they can be heard frequently. If you howl back, they shut up for a while. I’ve stopped to watch hawks tearing apart chipmunks or squirrels on the driveway a few times, and a small owl (one of at least three species going by the calls I hear) flew up to the trail cam to check it out. The other day, a weasel got stuck in the basement escape ladder pit and had to be let out and I’ve saved a baby rabbit from a sneaking stoat (I originally got them to eat from my hand, but they tend not to last very long, so I haven’t done that in years). I had a fisher cat run across the street in front of my car a couple streets over and people have spotted bobcats. Water snakes 2-3+ ft long hang out on the driveway and snapping turtles lay eggs in the rose bushes. Did you know they kiss? I missed snapping the photo by a few seconds. I haven’t seen any wolverines or bears, I suppose, but I’d say I have plenty of predators. If anything, they have too many better options than filthy mice as I don’t see nearly as many opossums, skunks, and raccoons as I would expect.

DNF
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DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

I stand corrected.
Coyote are pretty much top predator here, but they massacre cats, so better for rodents than us.
I’ve been seeing lynx tracks in the snow here, and at least one cougar has visited the house in the past.
I’m slightly too west for bears here.
Bald eagles are seen at the lake nearby, and I seem to be the only person here that has seen a stoat. It broke cover in daylight so I got a good look.
I’ve seen wolverines out west, but not here.
We have neighbors that night hunt coyotes.
Maybe you just need more mousey oriented hunters? I brought a feral cat with me, but coyote will hunt them.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  DNF

Yeah, I think the main mouse predators are predated upon and the area is probably too conducive to their reproduction. When I lived in the city, I saw a lot more mouse-eaters than I do here (I even sort of made friends with a skunk I named Lockheed). The coyotes seem to follow the deer (and occasional dog walker, especially if they have a small dog) in whatever pattern they tend to travel as they’ll come and go for weeks at a time. Between them and the pets people are foolish enough to leave outside, they’re well fed. That half-a-cat I saw being carried like the prize after a tug-of-war was pretty gruesome with the entrails hanging out like a tail. The foxes and weasel family animals are pretty elusive, so I’ve only seen any of them once or twice. I’ve been told we have river otters, too, but I’ve never seen them. I occasionally see a bald eagle, but I think they live near the reservoir nearby or perhaps they’re migrating. We had a non-native eagle (Stellar’s sea eagle?) that passed through a couple years ago. I didn’t see it, but other people did. Peregrine falcons, too. I’ve seen them diving on other birds, though I’ve never seen a catch. The speed is incredible. I think I saw a cougar once, but several towns away. They’re supposed to be extinct here, but I’m pretty sure I saw it about to cross a road at night. It definitely wasn’t a coyote by the way it moved and I don’t know what else it would have been, but I didn’t get a good look. A few weeks later, the news said there were a number of people claiming to see one in that area, so who knows?

Before we got the town to take over, I did battle with the beavers’ dams to placate neighbors complaining about their lawns being flooded as the dams were within our property. I always thought the dams were just piles of sticks and mud, but they’re legitimately engineered with different sizes and types of sticks woven together. They even use Y-shaped sticks as buttresses on the downstream side! I tried to cheat one of the dams with a flexible drain tube below the waterline and I read that they can’t figure out how to plug a T-junction inlet, so I added that. Next morning, I drive by going to work and the drain pipe is sticking up in the air like a sauropod neck. I got home and tied the pipe to 2′ stakes with bailing wire and put a 30+# rock on top of the inlet. Next morning, brontosaurus. They had gotten the wire off the stakes and I could not find that rock. Over 30#s! At least I know they worked late as there was a wet mud streak going across the driveway to get back to their lodge in the other pond (the ponds are connected via a culvert under the driveway). I tell this story and people for some reason think I hate them because they’ve outsmarted me and each hole I’ve knocked in their dams that they repair overnight has caused my back to ache for days after, but I think they’re awesome and much of the cool wildlife around here is thanks to them.

DNF
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DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

I’ve never seen a beaver dam, but since I’m near a lake, my first unusual encounter with wildlife was a beaver on the porch.
Big, beefy dangerous type with teeth, fortunately shy!
It was slicing open old soda cans as clean as a katana.
They’re still around though I don’t usually see them.
Skunks here don’t care if I’m around or not.
Doesn’t seem to bother them at all.

Rick Cavaretti
Rick Cavaretti
1 month ago

Like your taste buds, they eventually get used to it, and it becomes less of a deterrent.

Dug Deep
Dug Deep
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick Cavaretti

Perhaps the mice will feel the wrath after a nice cup of coffee the next morning

Alexk98
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Alexk98
1 month ago

So a friend of mine has a 2015 civic that had some issues with rodents chewing through it’s fuel pump’s harness. We didn’t want to spend the time and money waiting on a roll of this stuff to arrive, so I took some normal electrical tape and ground red Cayenne Pepper and made some DIY spicy tape. Never had to patch the wires afterwards. Do I know if that’s why? Nope, but I like to think it worked.

JJ
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JJ
1 month ago
Reply to  Alexk98

That’s the thing. The damage is random so you can never be sure the tape made a difference. I guess the more that time goes on without anyone reporting they had mice eating through the pepper tape, we can assume it must be doing something.

Alexk98
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Alexk98
1 month ago
Reply to  JJ

I only assume it made any difference since it happened twice in under 2 months, and at the time he parked on gravel and lived in between a field and a big patch of trees. But yeah, bold assumption that it worked, but certainly cant hurt, even if just by having an extra layer to get through.

Sklooner
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Sklooner
1 month ago

Engineer friend said the issue is that to be enviromentally friendly companies started using soy oil to lubricate the dies that they pull wire through leaving a tasty coating behind

JJ
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JJ
1 month ago
Reply to  Sklooner

I assume they have learned their lesson and no longer use this process?

Sklooner
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Sklooner
1 month ago
Reply to  JJ

Nope still use- clean it off better use other oils add bitter things but they still use it as of 2023 as far as I know

JJ
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JJ
1 month ago
Reply to  Sklooner

hey as long as they’ve solved the chewed wire problem, all good.

Defenestrator
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Defenestrator
1 month ago
Reply to  Sklooner

That’s at least way more plausible of an explanation than “soy-based wiring insulation”, since the insulation itself would probably be some specific component of soy extracted then polymerized rather than anything that actually resembled the soy feedstock.

Torque
Torque
1 month ago
Reply to  Sklooner

Supposedly soy based wire coating is cheaper than even petroleum based wire coating. Lower cost I suspect is the reason auto companies suppliers made the switch and the ‘it’s green’ is a greenwashing cover or at best a possible beneficial side benefit

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  Sklooner

Mice love 1975 Jenson Healy wiring. Pretty sure that was not a factor.

Sklooner
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Sklooner
1 month ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

Probably because the car sits so long when broken down.

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
1 month ago

“It smelled like a Band-Aid-flavored Rockstar Energy drink”

How is that not enough?

Data
Data
1 month ago
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Liz Cook needs to be writing about something else because that whole paragraphs was some pretty evocative prose for tape. This is rich Corinthian leather levels of excellence here.

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
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How about a story on what rich Corinthian leather tastes like?

DV
DV
1 month ago

I had an issue in my CX-30 where squirrels (I assume squirrels) were building nests above the battery / driver side strut tower. Just packing it full of leaves/needles/walnuts. They never chewed through wiring but they did chew up the hood insulator and the engine cover insulation to use for nesting material. I started using one of those ultrasonic flasher boxes which seems to be effective, though.

People keep blaming soy wiring but mice and other rodents have been chewing wires up in cars for decades. Hotter engine bays have also been an issue, making cars a more attractive nesting location.

Defenestrator
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Defenestrator
1 month ago
Reply to  DV

I’ve always wanted real data on this. I’ve heard it a lot as basically passed-down lore, but it’s not clear that there’s any increase in rodents chewing wires, or that any increase actually lines up well with some manufacturers using soy-based insulation. If I had to guess, it’s more likely that it started happening more often as the amount of wiring increased.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  Defenestrator

On my old cars there is hardly any wiring, and if a wire fails it’s pretty obvious which wire it is and it’s easy to fix. They also have carburetors.

DialMforMiata
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DialMforMiata
1 month ago

It tastes almost like regular electrical tape”

If you’re familiar with the taste of regular electrical tape, you probably have too much time on your hands.

Andrea Petersen
Andrea Petersen
1 month ago
Reply to  DialMforMiata

Wait, are you NOT supposed to bite electrical tape to cut it? Cause that’s essentially the only way I’ve ever done it, and I’ve used an abnormal amount of electrical tape in my life.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
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Grey alien in a beige sedan
1 month ago
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I’m familiar with the taste of electrical tape. Mainly because teeth are an acceptable cutting instrument. But I’m not one of those weirdos who eats it.

JJ
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JJ
1 month ago

right on. if it ain’t duct tape, it ain’t food.

Arch Duke Maxyenko
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Arch Duke Maxyenko
1 month ago

Sheeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiit, for the low, low price of $99.99/month*, I’ll come to you and rub hot chili peppers all over your wiring harnesses**.

*travel, lodging, and per diam not included and will be billed at standard rates
**hot pepper rubs applied elsewhere will incur additional costs

James McHenry
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James McHenry
1 month ago

I’ve been using mouse repellent in my glovebox since the fuzzy little beasts got into my FR-S. Might get this and tape up the weatherstripping on the garage door. Mice have super sensitive noses and tongues, so repelling them won’t take much.

Data
Data
1 month ago

Excellent use of the no longer copyrighted Steamboat Willie Mickey Mouse. Suck it Disney!

AssMatt
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AssMatt
1 month ago
Reply to  Data

I’ve never seen that toothed Mickey. Nice one Pete!

M. Park Hunter
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M. Park Hunter
1 month ago
Reply to  Data

Unless the repellent only works on out-of-copyright mice?

DNF
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DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  Data

There are wonderful early period cartoons of nasty rats.

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