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How AMC’s AMX/3 Concept Car Could Have Been A Real Mustang Fighter

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After watching Autopian contributor Joe Ligo’s The Last Independent Automaker, an insightful look into the history of AMC, my imagination was brimming with different scenarios that might, just maybe, have changed the fortunes of the often-struggling firm.

As Joe’s film reveals, there were many lights at the end of the tunnel for poor American Motors that turned out to be freight trains headed right at them. The Pacer, as conceived with a lightweight and efficient rotary engine, might have been a world beater; but the eleventh-hour death of the Wankel motor resulted in it being an overweight six-cylinder turd. The Eagle defined the modern crossover formula, but it came a decade too early with a product that, beyond the unique all-wheel-drive system, was a decade too old.

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One of American Motors’ greatest concepts was an unlikely mid-engined exotic sports machine to rival Ferraris. Naturally, AMC’s perpetual cash challenges meant this masterpiece would never get close to production. However, I can see a way that this design might have been transformed into something with the potential for a big hit just when American Motors needed it most.

Turin? Milan? Kenosha!

“Halo car” typically refers to an ultra-luxurious or high-performance flagship vehicle meant to showcase a manufacturer’s engineering prowess and technological advancements. Most importantly, a halo car needs to enhance the brand’s image and drive sales of other models. After suffering major losses in the sixties, American Motors could ill-afford to make a halo car that was ultra-anything, but AMC still needed one to prove the brand was a worthy contender for car-buyers’ dollars. And boy, did AMC deliver.

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The AMX was American Motors’ shortened two-seat Javelin production car, and the AMX/2 name was applied to a mid-engined concept car not unlike Ford’s Le Mans hero GT40. AMC knew that the upcoming DeTomaso Pantera was going to be distributed at Lincoln/Mercury dealerships, so a limited production exotic could add some major cachet and showroom draw for American Motors. The well-received show car was hurried into would-be production form as the AMX/3.

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Of course, it’s not like AMC had any mid-engined chassis available to use in such a car, or even the in-house resources to develop one, so the Kenosha firm turned to a veritable who’s-who of famous European contractors. As with many projects like this from half a century ago, details are a bit sketchy now, but it is believed that ex-Ferrari legend Giotto Bizzarrini was credited with the suspension work, and Giorgetto Giugiaro’s Ital Design designed the chassis. BMW did road testing and further development of the prototype, while Germany’s Karmann was supposedly earmarked to do series production starting in 1971.

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Looking very much like a product of an Italian styling house, the AMX/3 body design was actually the work of American Motors’ in-house team led by Dick Teague; many consider the AMX/3 to be the ultimate realization of Teague’s design skills in a career of great looking cars. The engine mounted behind the rear seats was also a full-on AMC powerplant: a 390 V8 from the Rebel Machine.

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Production goals of 1000 or even up to 5000 cars a year were rumored. If it all sounded too good to be true, it was. Only six examples of the AMX/3 were produced, and while no official reason was given as to why AMC pulled the plug, it didn’t really come as a surprise to anyone.

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A halo car is nice, but American Motors was too deep in the hole for overseas boondoggles. Still, the positive press the AMX/3 received was something that they capitalized on, and Dick Teague applied the look to cars you didn’t need to be rich to enjoy. As AMC’s usual lack of luck would have it, he didn’t necessarily apply it to ones that could have saved the company.

Go Brougham Or Go Home

Automakers are always taking risks, and American Motors rolled the dice on an emerging category of cars that they thought might be a sure bet. Unfortunately, AMC might have picked the wrong horse in the end; in football terms, Peyton Manning was passed over for Ryan Leaf.

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In the early seventies, cars like the Chevy Monte Carlo, Pontiac Grand Prix, and the no-longer-sporting Ford Thunderbird launched the class of “personal luxury coupes.” These were typically nothing more than two-door versions of plain-Jane sedans, modified with long hoods, ostentatious grilles, flourishes of extra chrome, and thick rear pillars covered in vinyl or “opera” windows. The epitome of the genre might be the soft Corinthian leather-clad Cordoba, a marketing hit that was one of the few bright spots for ailing seventies Chrysler.

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It’s hard for anyone today under the age of seventy or so who won’t find these things laughable, but in their period they were hot sellers. Consumers liked how they were affordable cars that looked “fancy”, while manufacturers liked the fact that the “fancy” part was just cheap crap they stuck on that allowed them to rake in profits. American Motors felt they had to get in on this action, so they gambled on investing in all-new tooling for a 1974 Matador coupe that shared no body panels with its sedan counterpart- and looked a lot like the AMX/3. This was a major expense that tiny, money-losing AMC couldn’t afford to waste.

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The gamble wouldn’t pay off. While a lot of Autopians like the funky-looking Matador coupe, the styling polarized many buyers. The biggest issue with the Matador coupe might have been that AMC eschewed the popular “baroque” personal luxury car look and went more “sport coupe” with the styling.

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Compared to the Big Three’s offerings, I far prefer AMC’s approach to coupe design, as did the villain in the James Bond film The Man With The Golden Gun.

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Sadly, most polyester-clad buyers of the time wanted the cheesy, stuck-on Temu Rolls-Royce look. I hate to say it, but if American Motors had done something rather cringe-inducing like below to the Matador with a stand-up Cordoba-style radiator grille and a more notchbacked landau roof, it would have sold far better. You don’t want to agree with me, but you know it’s true.

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In retrospect, though, AMC might have had a better chance of success by investing in a different market that was also exploding: subcompact import-style coupes. This was just the market that American Motors should have gone for, and I know exactly the car that this independent automaker could have used as an inspiration.

From Pony Coupes To Puny Coupes

Pony cars might have been all the rage in the late sixties, but by the time of the first energy crisis they were getting pushed aside by small, economical sport coupes. The Mustang-fighter Dodge Challenger, Plymouth Barracuda, and AMC’s own rather AMX/3-looking Javelin gave up their fights after 1974.

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What about the Mustang itself? This became a drastically smaller Pinto-based product called the Mustang II, which was about a foot and a half shorter than the 1973 Mustang and the last Javelin.

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Chevy’s larger Camaro soldiered on, but to hit the new market segment, Chevy also offered a Mustang II-sized coupe in the form of the Monza.

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Foreign competition filled this field as well, with entries ranging from the modern front-drive VW Scirocco to a Toyota Celica that looked like a ¾ scale 1970 Mach I.

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You were actually spoiled for choice by the Blue Oval’s dealers, as in addition to the Mustang II, Ford offered an actual European small coupe to America in the form of the Capri, available at Mercury dealers. It was a hit; in the early seventies, the Capri was actually the second-best-selling import behind the VW Beetle.

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Poor Mopar: having no small car to use as a basis and captive Mitsubishi coupes (the Plymouth Arrow and Plymouth Sapporo/Dodge Challenger twin) a few years off, Big Three member Chrysler was conspicuously absent from the little coupe party. It was definitely a party worth attending; Ford sold 513,000 Capris in America over its eight-year run, while Chevy sold over 800,000 Monzas during six years on the market. The Mustang II sold a whopping 386,000 Mustang IIs in 1974 alone. Clearly, as a brand famous for small cars from way back when Mitt Romney’s dad ran the company, AMC should have had an entry in this lucrative segment. How could they have made that?

This Hornet Wasn’t No Alfa Clone

Besides that Matador coupe and last Javelin, which were obviously interpretations of the Italian-developed exotic, American Motors also applied elements of the look to a two-door hatchback version of their compact Hornet. Notice the kicked-up hips styling details from the AMX/3:

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You might remember a red example of this car doing a corkscrew stunt jump in the same Bond film mentioned above.

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That Hornet 2-door hatch was almost a foot longer than the Mustang II, and also taller, but that doesn’t mean that it couldn’t form the basis for a new small sports coupe to go head-to-head with the Pintostang and the Chevy Monza. A modified Hornet chassis was used by Malcolm Bricklin to underpin his gullwinged SV1, and people actually didn’t mind how that drove.

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I’ve mentioned it before, but years later a group of AMC Spirits (which were essentially reskinned Hornets) were driven 24 hours at the Nürburgring and actually won in their class. James Brolin (Mr. Barbra Streisand and Josh’s dad) was one of the drivers, and he claimed that the brakes and suspensions were essentially shot on the cars at the end, but they sure as hell finished. Clearly, the chassis could be made to at least be competitive with the likes of Mustang IIs and Vega-based Monzas.

Somehow, I get the feeling that a Hornet-based sports coupe with the looks of an AMX/3 might have been a hit for American Motors at a crucial time. Let’s bring it to life.

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The Gremlin’s Good-Looking Brother

Let’s say that it’s the fall of 1974, and you need something new to replace your sixties Mustang. You hop into your rusting steed and flip on the AM radio, which will almost certainly be playing this or this OVER and OVER and OVER again for your car shopping soundtrack. You head out to dealerships to look at leftover 1974 or new ’75 sport coupes that’ll be efficient but still fun; I’ll aim this new AMX directly at you.

Using the Mustang II and Monza size as a guide, the AMC will chop nearly a foot off of the Hornet’s length and lower the height by a few inches as well to create the new AMX.

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To make a subcompact 2+2, the proportions of the AMX mid-engined exotic obviously change to something far taller and not as elongated. Surprisingly the look holds together for this new coupe, which has a bit of an Opel GT or Capri in appearance. Stock AMC aluminum wheels are shown, but the optional steel “rallye” wheels with trim rings could be standard.

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The body-colored five-mile-per-hour crash bumpers added to the front and back don’t look too bad. Pop-up headlights would be exclusive to AMC, and add immeasurable cool to any car. You can see from this animation that the proportions become much more upright than the AMX/3 sports car but still work for the Mustang/Monza category:

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At the rear, a hatchback replaces the sunken-in rear window of the mid-engined concept car:

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Again, the animation shows the car gets much larger, but it still seems to work.

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Overall, I think it compares favorably to the competitors.

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Note the slight bulge on the hood needed to clear the standard straight six. We’d have to relocate the air cleaner to lower the hood line; a two-barrel carb would be standard but the SC package adds a four-barrel for performance to match or exceed the anemic optional V8s of the Ford and Chevy (I know some people that have added quad-barrel Holleys to old 240 or 260Zs for big power gains). Feather the throttle and the two primary barrels could give you reasonable gas mileage; punch it to get the secondaries singing and, well, you won’t tear up asphalt, but you’ll move as well as any other hot-for malaise-years coupe.

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I think that the vaunted GT40 was one of the influences behind the AMX/3 concept, so I’d like to look at the interior of that car for some inspiration.

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You can see that I’ve kept that overall look in the AMX, complete with toggle switches and gauges that could honestly be Stewart Warner bits for a race-car-style appearance (and to save AMC on some tooling costs).

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As expected, we’ll use parts bin radio, steering wheel, and the “Weather Eye” climate controls with the infamous DESERT ONLY setting on the A/C. It’s got the sort of hokey fake-Lemans-car interior styling that would pair nicely with a pair of cheap stringback driving gloves; what could be better?

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X-ceptional For X-asperating Times

Would introducing a sporty, small AMX like this simply have been rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic? Was AMC doomed to failure regardless of which direction they had turned? Certainly, their plight against Big Three giants was always going to have been a David-versus-Goliath battle, yet a few more hits and a few fewer Pacers might have put them in a better position than poor Chrysler in the seventies. Maybe Iacocca would have found American Motors to be a better place to hang his hat after Ford showed him the door. We’ll never know. I do know that the AMX/3 show car was a true American masterpiece from Dick Teague; we couldn’t give it the production life that it deserved, but at least we can give it the respect that it’s owed.

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Mr E
Mr E
7 hours ago

Your AMX looks great. Even in brown.

Random thought: are they really called ‘halo cars’ since they are the models in the portfolio most likely to kill you?

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
7 hours ago

In my view, the AMX/3 would have been a Corvette fighter rather than a Mustang fighter.

They should have put it into production. It would have given AMC a lot more street cred.

Gilbert Wham
Gilbert Wham
7 hours ago

Shit, we would all lust after a car like that with a straight six in it right now, never mind in 1974.

Nycbjr
Nycbjr
7 hours ago

Haven’t read all the comments yet, but Spirts were not reskinned hornets but reskinned Gremlins (which are shorter hornets).

Bruno Ealo
Bruno Ealo
8 hours ago

Looks like a shorter Pantera at first glance.

10001010
10001010
8 hours ago

Slap some T-tops and rear louvers on this and I’ll take one!!!

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
8 hours ago

AMC was the most French of all American car makers, which is why the attempted partnership with Renault theoretically made sense. It is also the reason they were always my favorite American car brand.

In the 80s, in high school, a good friend had two ’72 Javelins. The first was a 304 and the second a 401 AMX. The older kid across the street from my house had three Gremlins, including one with the factory 304 V8. The Javelin was far more interesting than any of the ubiquitous Camaros or Mustangs, and the Gremlin was a far better car than the early compact offerings from Ford or GM.

The AMC Eagle was more than just an early herald of the modern CUV; it is a direct ancestor since its existence is what led to the XJ. Which, ironically, looked more like a truck but eschewed the body-on-frame for unibody construction. I had an Eagle in college and loved it for going camping and getting around rural Wisconsin in the winter.

Though the AMX concept is very cool in the vein of the DeTomaso Mangusta, my favorite AMC concept is the AMX-GT, which kept the AMC weirdness alive rather than mimic the prototypical Italian style. Going its own way is why the Citroen DS, CX, and SM are considered such amazing works of art.

NosrednaNod
NosrednaNod
8 hours ago

“AMC was the most French of all American car makers…”

Have you ever heard of the Chevrolet brothers? ????

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
8 hours ago
Reply to  NosrednaNod

In the most “acjchyually” voice possible, they were Swiss.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
7 hours ago
Reply to  NosrednaNod

Have you ever heard of the Chevrolet brothers? ????”

Non.

Gubbin
Gubbin
6 hours ago

I was just thinking again about how France can run cost-effective nuclear power plants and build Metro line extensions for centimes on the dollar, and I feel it’s from their high regard for engineers. There, an engineering degree is a reasonable stepping-stone to business or political leadership rather than an invite to the salt mines.

That kind of culture gives engineers more leeway to get disastrously weird, but better Daedalus than Kenneth Lay, I say.

Joe The Drummer
Joe The Drummer
8 hours ago

You magnificent bastard, you actually managed to make the Matador coupe not be the ugliest car in American motoring history anymore… by adding “Brougham” styling cues? Color me impressed. That’s a “bet the house on the Washington Generals beating the Harlem Globetrotters”-level proposal. As Derek says on Vice Grip Garage, I can’t believe it, but I guess I got to, ’cause I’m lookin’ right at it.

Also, put me down as being 100% completely baffled by the Renaissance that car has been enjoying in recent years. I don’t know how anyone with eyeballs could ever look at one and see anything but a face that only a mother could love, especially compared to the Javelin it sorta replaced, which was absolutely one of the sexiest coupe styles ever made in America. I wish I knew why they traded one for the other – cocaine is a hell of a drug, I guess?

As for the AMX/Hornet exercise that’s the actual topic: please find Doc Brown, go back to 1973, make AMC build this at gunpoint, and rewrite history. It looks fabulous.

755_SoCalRally
755_SoCalRally
9 hours ago

Agreed, take my money. The original AMX/3 design itself was gorgeous, and the changes wrought by The Bishop are also fantastic. For my taste this is a no-lose situation. Did I see a GoFundMe for a time machine mentioned?

Jonee Eisen
Jonee Eisen
9 hours ago

Yeah, this is great. I don’t know that it would have saved the company, but they definitely would have sold more of them than Matador Coupes. AMC had a lot of concepts in the 70s that are big “what if’s.” The little “Pacer II” hatchback, the AM Van. If they had more development money, they might still be around. Especially since they had the car of the future, the Cherokee.

Car Guy - RHM
Car Guy - RHM
9 hours ago

AMC sort of went in that direction when they did the Spirit. The more personal luxury coupes were the Concord which was the Hornet with the Brougham style roof. It just took them longer to react to the market most likely due to lack of funds.

Idiotking
Idiotking
9 hours ago

Take my money.

Bishop, having brought us the Good News, your task now is to build a time machine, go back to 1974, and convince the AMC brass to ditch the Matador, and get this pretty machine into production.

Squirrelmaster
Squirrelmaster
9 hours ago

Once again we needs .gifs here so I can insert the slow clap gif. I love it, to the point that I think it might be the best thing Bishop has done so far, which is saying a lot.

Joe L
Joe L
9 hours ago
Reply to  Squirrelmaster

Agreed – in some ways I actually prefer the proportions of this to the AMX/3 itself. Though I would have gone with the 304 V8 myself.

JumboG
JumboG
7 hours ago
Reply to  The Bishop

The AMC six of the time was totally not the right engine for a sports car – it has a long stroke, slow revving, torque making design. The AMC 304 (or 401) would be a much better sports car engine. The 304 in my CJ-7 revs up nicely with the addition of a cam and a 4bbl carb.

Joe L
Joe L
5 hours ago
Reply to  JumboG

Yeah the late-70s Spirit-based AMX used the 304. Not terribly quick but not that slow by the standards of the late 70s.

JumboG
JumboG
4 hours ago
Reply to  Joe L

The late 70s 304 wasn’t that powerful, but it’s amazing how well a cam and 4bbl carb helped it out.

Rollin Hand
Rollin Hand
9 hours ago

This might be your best design yet. It looks better that the concept you based it on, and MILES better than the hypothetical competition. Well done!

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
9 hours ago

It’s hard for anyone today under the age of seventy or so who won’t find these things laughable, but in their period they were hot sellers. Consumers liked how they were affordable cars that looked “fancy”, while manufacturers liked the fact that the “fancy” part was just cheap crap they stuck on that allowed them to rake in profits.

True, but at the same time: as then, now. Consumers like cars that look “sporty” or “offroady,” while manufacturers like the fact that the fancy or offroady part are just cheap plastic crap embedded into the plastic front and rear clips or tacked onto the wheel opening edges. And likewise, they will be laughable in a decade or two. I find them laughable now, really. Grandma’s crossovers in thirty years will be considered uglier than grandma’s Buick sedans of today.

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
9 hours ago

^^^ ALL OF THIS^^^

Jack Swansey
Jack Swansey
9 hours ago

Hot damn.

JDE
JDE
9 hours ago

the Early Bricklin Safety Cars ran AMC motors, though it seemed like all of them overheated, and that did not change when a ford mill replaced it. but I could certainly have seen AMC and Bricklin doing a bit of a swaparooney Badge engineering thing, but actually do the Rear engine thing like DeTomasa.

OverlandingSprinter
OverlandingSprinter
9 hours ago

So, so many alternative futures possible for AMC. I love this AMC content, and especially this AMX.

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
9 hours ago

Interesting that the original concept has a nose that appears to be inspired by the Mach 5.

Its probably more realistic that your AMX III would have used a derivative of the Hornet dash – because cost-saving. I’m also struck by the “just toss the spare on the engine block” setup.

And as far as the PLC Matador – It probably would have made a lot more sense and cost a whole lot less money to have used the previous-gen Ambassador/Matador coupe lower body panels and simply revised the roofline and hood/grille.

Data
Data
9 hours ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

Spare on the engine was good enough for Yugo. 🙂

Idiotking
Idiotking
9 hours ago
Reply to  Data

And for the Subaru GL.

Speedway Sammy
Speedway Sammy
10 hours ago

One of the weaknesses AMC had back in the day was their dealer network.
Not like today when corporate mega dealers sell every brand everywhere.
AMC had a lot fewer dealers and they were often undercapitalized and located in marginal facilities.

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
10 hours ago

“soft Corinthian leather”

Ahem…

It is RICH Corinthian leather.

Ricardo Montalban is very disappointed in you.

Idiotking
Idiotking
9 hours ago
Reply to  The Bishop

¿Quién es más macho? Bishop… o Mantalban?

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
9 hours ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

Bishop is correct.
It’s Soft Corinthian Leather.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfKHBB4vt4c

And also Fine Corinthian Leather
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0diMFShiUU

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StillNotATony
StillNotATony
8 hours ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

Okay, I thought I was having a Mandela effect there, but apparently we are all correct.

https://youtu.be/uvyTTx33PPQ?si=np_cqxSrodrnhgrG

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
10 hours ago

Love your take on the AMX/3. Stylistically, it beats the pants off the Mustang II and the Monza. AMX could’ve called it the American Express if they wouldn’t have minded being sued.

CanAm
CanAm
10 hours ago

The first gen Javelin has always been a favorite car for me and I always hoped they would produce the AMX 3. My only argument with your article is referring to the 232 six in the Pacer as a turd, It was a great engine, incredibly reliable.

ImissmyoldScout
ImissmyoldScout
10 hours ago

Man, in an alternate future. I had a ’74 Mustang II notchback that was completely clapped out when I got it. 2.3L with a 4-speed. Mine was even that yellow in the shot of the Mustang II in this article. I would much rather have had your AMC, especially in that orange.

The Bishop's Brother
The Bishop's Brother
10 hours ago

“as did the villain in the James Bond film The Man With The Golden Gun.”

That’s Flight Lieutenant Sir Christopher Lee to you, bucko. Dracula. Count Dooku, as seen on the cover of Band on the Run.
Show some respect.

The Bishop's Brother
The Bishop's Brother
10 hours ago
Reply to  The Bishop

We’ll just forget that Lee took what seemed to be any script he was handed, Michael Caine-style and ignore the fact that for every Dooku / Darth Tyranus, there were two Return from Witch Mountains. (OMG I think I saw that in the theaters…)

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
10 hours ago

A guy has got to work to pay the rent.
Otherwise he winds up like Randy Quaid.

Data
Data
9 hours ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

Drinking the Trump Kool-Aid and repping for QAnon?

Rollin Hand
Rollin Hand
9 hours ago

I am pretty sure I saw it in a theater as well.

Rollin Hand
Rollin Hand
9 hours ago
Reply to  The Bishop

The great Christopher Lee would never sully himself with such fare as Fantasy…

(checks Mr. Lee’s IMDB page)

…uh, never mind.

Anyway, he certainly wouldn’t work with Hervé Villechaise….

(thinks back to The Man with the Golden Gun)…

…gah.

Church
Church
10 hours ago

Count Dooku but not Saruman? I guess everyone looks at pop culture through their own lens!

The Bishop's Brother
The Bishop's Brother
9 hours ago
Reply to  Church

That was just to annoy the hell outta my LotR-loving wife. I’m actually a Trekkie, not a SW fan

Tbird
Tbird
9 hours ago

I beleive he was also a cousin? to Ian Fleming.

Captain Avatar
Captain Avatar
9 hours ago

Or, perhaps most chillingly, Lord Summerisle in The Wicker Man

And, of course, he may or may not have been some sort of secret agent/assassin in WWII. Famously, while filming the LOTR trilogy, he once explained to Peter Jackson what a man being stabbed actually sounded like….as if it was common knowledge…

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The Bishop's Brother
The Bishop's Brother
9 hours ago
Reply to  Captain Avatar

He brought that swagger to everything. He was also a great guest star on two Diana Rigg+era Avengers UK episodes in the mid-1960s

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