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How Chrysler Could Have Gone Even Harder With The K-Car

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You can’t please all the people all of the time. Poet John Lyndgate supposedly made that statement hundreds of years ago, and while most would agree with him, the product planners at Chrysler Corporation in the early eighties certainly made heroic attempts to prove him wrong.

To be fair, Chrysler had little choice in the matter. With loans guaranteed by the U.S. government to be repaid, the brand-new K-platform had to serve as the basis for almost every kind of passenger vehicle in the Chrysler fleet, from sedans and sports cars to vans and limousines. And it worked! Chrysler’s success in making a full menu out of very few ingredients stands as a monument to creativity – and yet, I feel there were a few more holes in the market that Chrysler could have filled with the mighty K.

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The A To Z Of K

Look, I’m not going to sit here and wax eloquently about the styling of a Chrysler New Yorker or the Dodge Dynasty’s handling; it’s a well-known fact that few if any of the K-platform products ever really scared anyone at Honda or Volkswagen or BMW. Still, model-for-model, the K-car-based products gave customers of the eighties exactly what they were looking for at a reasonable price, complete with some qualities the rest of the Big Three didn’t fully match. Chrysler’s space efficiency was outstanding, and Mopar’s prescient push to use turbocharged fours in lieu of six- and eight-cylinder engines is only now being adopted by most of today’s internal-combustion engine makers.

Chrysler’s way out of the 1970s darkness began in 1981 with the Dodge Aries K and Plymouth Reliant K, a compact sedan and wagon on a new front-drive platform to replace the trouble-prone Aspen and Volare and compete favorably with the popular but equally trouble-prone General Motors X-Body cars like the Chevy Citation.

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Notice that the Aries and Reliant gave you a station wagon option that the X-Cars never offered, and unlike GM’s offerings where you had to step up to a Buick or Oldsmobile to get the “formal” notchback sedan style that people wanted (the Chevy Citation and Pontiac Phoenix only offered hatchback four-doors that were falling out of favor with buyers by 1980), Chrysler let cheapskates look nattily notched on a budget.

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I think the six people shown in this thing below would barely fit, but that’s impressive packaging, nonetheless. Look at those gas mileage figures on a carbureted, non-electric-hybrid car!

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The K-car sold well in the immediate post-gas-crunch years and quickly spawned a whole mess of different vehicles. How many? I tried to count the other day and decided an illustration was in order. Here is the definitive K family tree, including the other body designations (G, P, etc.) that are all very much K-derived, no matter the letter assigned to them:

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Whew! Making that took away an hour or two of my life I’ll never get back. Could you ever imagine a cargo van and a Maserati-powered sports coupe sharing the same platform? I couldn’t, but there’s the proof above. There really is something for everyone. The breadth of market coverage is mind-boggling, and it seems there is nothing Chrysler didn’t offer – but I feel opportunities remained.

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My Maserati Holds 1, 2, 3, 5: Chrysler Maserati Salon De Lido

If there’s one K variant that most consider to be a failure, it’s the Maserati TC. The intent was certainly noble enough; Lee Iacocca’s long-time friend Alejandro DeTomaso controlled the storied trident brand at the time, and a collaboration logically could have brought some chutzpah to the one Big Three corporation that didn’t have a respected Lincoln or Cadillac flagship.

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Lee had brought DeTomaso’s Pantera into Lincoln-Mercury dealerships back at his time with Ford. It was a fearsome machine that blew the Corvette into the weeds when it worked, which it never did. Iacocca seemed to have forgotten about all of the Pantera’s quality and production issues twenty years later, and Alejandro let him down again on this new project. The development delays of the Italian-built car caused the TC to be released after the new-for-1987 Lebaron Coupe it shared a resemblance with.

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Instead of timing the TC’s release so LeBaron customers could say, “Hey, my new $15,000 Chrysler looks like that fancy $35,000 Maserati TC that was introduced two years ago,” Chrysler left potential TC customers to muse that the new “Maserati” looks like the Lebaron that’s already been on sale for a while and costs twenty grand less. Indeed, twenty grand less, and with very, very similar mechanical components, including a Dodge Daytona-sourced Turbo II four or a Mitsubishi V6 (with the exception of the 500 TCs equipped with a Maserati-built 16-valve motor and Gertrag 5 speed).

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The TC’s biggest problem was all the wannabe-Mercedes-SL two-seat touring cars from the Buick Reatta convertible to the Cadillac Allante all the way up the 2000s T-Bird revival turned out to be sales duds. Despite plans for 5000 to 10,000 units a year, Chrysler only managed to move 7,300 TCs over three years. Honestly, you have to wonder if the Chrysler-Maserati mashup would have found more acceptance if it were something other than a coupe with a funky porthole window in the removable hardtop.

Why not a luxury sedan? A Maserati-branded sedan sold through a Chrysler store in the late eighties almost certainly would have sold better. Maserati’s own Biturbo series (like the 425 4-door shown below) was getting long in the tooth by now, and production ceased in 1989 anyway.

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Thirty-five grand was a chunk of change in 1989, but wouldn’t you consider a hand-crafted leather-lined Italian boutique four-door for the same price as a smaller Mercedes or BMW featuring the interior ambiance of an operating room? If it had the stick and Maserati-massaged mill under the hood, I certainly would. Presenting the Chrysler-Maserati Salon Di Lido; yeah, it was Iacocca’s baby, so let’s name it after him.

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Proportionally, it seems to work better than the coupe, which looks rather stumpy, particularly with the hardtop in place.

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Like the TC, it looks far less Milan than it does Michigan, but that’s where the buyers of this thing were. If Iacocca was aiming for five to ten thousand units per year in sales, a four-door executive car with an exotic name and lavish interior could likely have found at least that many buyers wanting to upstage other members of the foursome at a country club.

K Hits The Trails: Dodge K-Cross

Most Autopians are aware that American Motors pioneered the modern all-wheel drive crossover formula with the 1980 Eagle, but it took forever and a day for others to follow suit. Here would have been a perfect opportunity for what was usually the least of the Big 3 to step in.

The original Eagle bit the dust in 1988 after Iacocca’s takeover of AMC, yet a natural successor could have been made rather easily. Chrysler debuted all-wheel-drive K-based vehicles in 1992 with their minivans, but as a testbed for this system, they might have tried something a few years sooner.

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Remember the original Aries and Reliant Ks? These would disappear after 1989, but in a move similar to AMC’s reanimation of the Hornet/Concord to make the Eagle, the poor old K-car wagons might have gotten a new lease on life. With the new all-wheel-drive system installed, raised ground clearance, fender flares encasing bigger tires, and a new front clip, the Aries or Reliant station wagon would become the K-Cross. Mildly off-road capable, this might have been a Subaru Outback half a decade early. I’d love to see one lifted even more and sporting a push bar.

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Here’s an animation of the old warhorse wagon turned into the K-Cross:

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It’s boxy-frumpy looking, but while some companies actually started from scratch to make an all-new square-rigged car, Chrysler had one sitting right there about to be retired.

Putting The K In Pickups: Dodge Wayfairer

No pickup trucks on the K-family tree? How can that be? Chrysler did give us a mini-El Camino with the Omni-based Rampage and Scamp, but it was a bit more style-over-substance than a real pickup. I remember reading a quote from some Mopar person that after every pool cleaner in California bought one, the market dried up.

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An Aries/Reliant-based pickup would be far more workmanlike, something Hank Hill might drive. Here’s the Dodge Wayfairer, still a small load carrier but in a much more usable size. Imagine a Toyota Hilux-sized machine but with a more car-like chassis, as well as an available bench seat to allow for (tight) three-across seating.

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A leaf-sprung axle in back would allow for more cargo weight, but even if Chrysler popped for a V6 option, you wouldn’t be going anywhere fast.

I’m showing a cab and bed as a unit, but if they were separate as on a typical pickup truck, imagine the things Chrysler could have offered. Flatbeds, utility units for tradesman, even a camper that Mercedes Streeter would be writing about thirty-five years later … I’ve shown a few rough scribbles for a few of these things, but the list could go on for this El Aries or Reliantero.

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Let’s Hear Your Ideas, K?

It’s rather a shame today that seemingly over half of the cars on the road are crossover wagons, and a large chunk of the rest are large pickups. Thirty or forty years ago, there was a market for all sorts of different vehicles, and Chrysler hit almost all of them with one platform.

You guys know the K-chassis ingredients, right? There have to be other possibilities for this ambidextrous chassis that were never explored. What are some other things that Chrysler missed out on making? Let us know!

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World24
World24
4 months ago

Why couldn’t the K-Cross be an Eagle or a Jeep, considering it was replacing the Eagle Eagle?
I think they could’ve done a Journey 20 years before they did with the minivans, just replacing the sliding door with a set of conventional rear doors. It’s not like they didn’t have the same formula; a 4 cylinder with an old school automatic, or a 6 cylinder with a more modern automatic!

GreatFallsGreen
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GreatFallsGreen
4 months ago
Reply to  World24

That would have made sense to squeeze out some more use from the old platform, throw it at another brand. Otherwise Jeep dealers would have bristled about someone else selling 4WDs like they did with the off-road Caravan concept.

The Colt wagon & Vista offered 4WD so that line might have had to be scaled back in the K-Cross scenarios too. But there too, Eagle only had such a version in Canada until the Expo rebadges arrived.

OverlandingSprinter
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OverlandingSprinter
4 months ago

Didn’t go far enough with the Wayfairer applications. How about:

  • Box truck for fresh flower and helium balloon delivery services
  • Food truck for pre-made food such empanadas and tamales.
  • Mobile porto-potties for street construction crews

The last idea is perhaps the most fitting use.

JDE
JDE
4 months ago

Pajero….could they have made a Pajero from the AWD K-Platform? Would it have been adequate or would it have killed the Paj elsewhere in the world?

MATTinMKE
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MATTinMKE
4 months ago

“ Chrysler-Maserati Salon Di Lido”

Nobody, and I mean nobody, can polish a turd like the Bishop!

The Bishop
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The Bishop
4 months ago
Reply to  MATTinMKE

And it’s almost brown, too

Grey alien in a beige sedan
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Grey alien in a beige sedan
4 months ago

Dodge has a pittance for a lineup these days… how hard would it be to grab a decently sized sedan from another brand in the stable, slap the Dodge red “11” logo on it and call it an Aries. Make it a hybrid with a turbo 4 and give it enough juice to make it sporty. Then, after three years as a massive sales hit, toss the twin-turbo’d hurricane in there and call it the Aries Special K.

Let’s leave the TC in the past though.

OrigamiSensei
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OrigamiSensei
4 months ago

Huh – I’ve only ever really seen the Maserati TC in light colors (usually that mustardy yellow or white) with the top on and they look kind of awkward. But that picture above of the burgundy TC with the matching interior and the top off looks quite nice.

My parents had two K-cars, a Dodge 400 and an Aries wagon. I was in the Aries with my parents when the camshaft snapped under mild acceleration.

SAABstory
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SAABstory
4 months ago

K-cars. I grew up with them and loathe them.

Great thought exercise but I kept thinking that the world needs fewer K-cars. The K-car is the anti-Miata for me, never the answer. As always your mileage may vary.

Ottomadiq
Ottomadiq
4 months ago

the K-Cross goes hard!

The Bishop's Brother
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The Bishop's Brother
4 months ago

How you got through this article without using “K-Ute” is beyond me.

MAX FRESH OFF
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MAX FRESH OFF
4 months ago

My mom had a 600 when I was a kid, and the things that Chrysler missed out on making were vehicles that didn’t have sub-par body and interior quality, rough and noisy operation, poor fuel economy, and reliability issues.

3WiperB
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3WiperB
4 months ago

I’ve never thought about other K-car variants because I don’t have a million dollars to throw around.

GreatFallsGreen
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GreatFallsGreen
4 months ago

In a world where the minivan hadn’t taken off, might Chrysler have scrambled to make a station wagon out of the E/AC lines? Would a Dynasty wagon have wound up even boxier?

Huja Shaw
Huja Shaw
4 months ago

Okay, call me K-curious.

Church
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Church
4 months ago
Reply to  Huja Shaw

Kurious was right there.

Huja Shaw
Huja Shaw
4 months ago
Reply to  Church

AAARGGHHHH!

Church
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Church
4 months ago
Reply to  Huja Shaw

Don’t worry, I still gave you a star.

Huja Shaw
Huja Shaw
4 months ago
Reply to  Church

And you get one in return.

Fineheresyourdamn70dollars
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Fineheresyourdamn70dollars
4 months ago

I bought a K-Car for my first. It can’t hurt me anymore…

Emil Minty
Emil Minty
4 months ago

Rally car. Probably start with the Shadow coupe as the smallest, put the engine in the rear, turbocharge the sh!t out of it. Sell a street version for homologation.

Bill C
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Bill C
4 months ago
Reply to  Emil Minty

I was thinking recently about one K variation that never happened. A mid-engined coupe made by flipping around the FWD drivetrain like GM did with the Fiero. There is a 60k mile Reliant coupe for sale near me and its sort of tempting. A late one too, so it has TBI. Bench seat, crank windows, A/C, column automatic, light metallic blue.

World24
World24
4 months ago
Reply to  Emil Minty

Hysterically, they started doing something rally related back in the day with the Lebaron coupe!
https://historicdb.fia.com/sites/default/files/car_attachment/1601054401/homologation_form_number_5384_group_n.pdf

The Bishop
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The Bishop
4 months ago
Reply to  Emil Minty

I actually made.a Lebaron rally car post a while back!

StillNotATony
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StillNotATony
4 months ago

If you wanna do a K based pickup, starting from the minivan would seem better than the sedan. You get a more truck-like cab area, and you could use the short and long wheelbase versions to have short and long bed versions. Or regular cab and crew cab versions.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
4 months ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

For that matter a lot of the back half of the Rampage underpinnings carried straight over to the minivans. It’s not hard to imagine a later Rampage on the long minivan wheelbase with a Shadow-style nose added to the 1984-up Charger hood and fenders.

Chris D
Chris D
4 months ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

That would have been a great addition to the midsize pickup market of the era. Imagine an El Camino that managed 30 MPG.
On the other hand, imagine a front-wheel drive pickup fully loaded in the back, doing a very long burnout while trying to go up a hill. Yeah, they had better be built with four wheel drive!

Aron9000
Aron9000
4 months ago

Sucks that Chrysler discontinued the R body, Cordoba and Mirada in the early 80s. Once the economy bounced back big cars started selling again.

I think a bit of a restyle would have been due on the sedans(like rework the rear glass area on the New Yorker)

As for untapped niches, Chrysler never did get the fun car right. Nobody really wanted a Dodge Daytona back in the day, they sold way more 3rd gen Camaros, Trans Ams and fox Mustangs. And those are still considered cool and collectable today, nobody is restoring a dang Dodge Daytona or Chrysler laser.

World24
World24
4 months ago
Reply to  Aron9000

It’s kinda shocking they didn’t think to try and do a coupe M-body. Both were just a modified C-Body anyways lol

MikuhlBrian
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MikuhlBrian
4 months ago
Reply to  World24

Chrysler did an M-body coupe from 1977 – 1981.

https://i.redd.it/k2a4p309dyn51.jpg

Also, the J-body Mirada/Cordoba from 1980-1983 were also essential M-body coupes. They rode on the same platform as the F- and M-bodies, on the longer wheelbase version.

Anoos
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Anoos
4 months ago

I am glad that the Rampage actually existed.

I saw the top shot and author then thought that I had hallucinated / imagined / Mandela Effected a k-car ute.

Alexk98
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Alexk98
4 months ago

Wayfairer, but base it off the Aries-K and call it the A-Kamino.

Chris D
Chris D
4 months ago
Reply to  Alexk98

Dodge actually built and sold a Wayfarer from 1949 to 1952. When I was a teen I mowed the lawn of a neighbor, who was in her 80s, who had purchased it when it was almost brand new. It had a three on the tree, and she still drove it about 500 miles a year. It was a huge 2-door sedan with just a front bench seat, if I remember correctly. It still had the original green paint from 1949.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
4 months ago

Like the Wayfarer idea, but like my old Rampage better.

Chrysler already had Jeep before the Aries/Reliant were retired so a runabout like the old Jeepster Commando would’ve been fun. Kommando?

Jack Monnday
Jack Monnday
4 months ago

Shooting Bra-K

MrLM002
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MrLM002
4 months ago

Take the Limo chassis, give it a rampage front end, and make it the long bed variant of the rampage, with a slightly shorter bed dual cab option (same OAL though).

Both Single cab and dual cab pickup variants for the Caravan as well.

Proper 2 door 3 seat (single bench) city K Car.

Old Fart Parts Guy
Old Fart Parts Guy
4 months ago

A k series front wheel drive hearse. For grieving families on a budget. Just raise the roof on a wagon put on the cap. Cheap easy professional car. The k wagon would have been the flower car.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
4 months ago

I think Ford had a Pinto hearse for cremations.

Mayor McZombie
Mayor McZombie
4 months ago

Katch-22 -a 2.2 liter 4 cylinder hatchback that you’d have to be crazy to drive.

Tbird
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Tbird
4 months ago
Reply to  Mayor McZombie

But a crazy person can’t drive, only a sane person.

Christocyclist
Christocyclist
4 months ago

I had a friend who had an MG, but she traded it in for a white Chrysler LeBaron. But she had uninterrupted prosperity…

Highland Green Miata
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Highland Green Miata
4 months ago
Reply to  Christocyclist

Did she change her name from Kitty to Karen?

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
4 months ago

Yes, because she has fingernails that shine like justice.

Highland Green Miata
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Highland Green Miata
4 months ago

And a voice that is dark like tinted glass…in a white Chrysler Lebaron

Last edited 4 months ago by Highland Green Miata
Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
4 months ago

Too much smoking?

Highland Green Miata
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Highland Green Miata
4 months ago

It’s only her eyes that burn like cigarettes. But a smoking-related addition to the lyric might be:
She wants a car with a push button lighter
She wants an ashtray that flips its lid
She takes a drag from a cigarette holder
And flicks her ashes into the wind

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
4 months ago

Someday somebody should make a movie about Karen. Or at least a TV show.

Chris D
Chris D
4 months ago

I have a neighbor named Karen, and she is definitely a Karen.
Your TV show would have Kathy Kinney in the role of Karen (she played Mimi Bobeck on the Drew Carey show).
It would be unwatchable, unless very well written and acted.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
4 months ago
Reply to  Christocyclist

She wanted a car with a cupholder armrest.

Highland Green Miata
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Highland Green Miata
4 months ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

I think she’d settle for a car that will get her there

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