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How To Make A Modern Four-Door Super Beetle Out Of A Porsche Macan

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The magic of nostalgia usually doesn’t hold up for long.

My guess is that if you got into a mosh pit now, you’d enjoy it for about fifteen seconds. You’d quickly realize why you stopped doing it decades ago, even more so if you now consider getting your pants on in the morning to be a major accomplishment. We GenXers look back fondly on when those McDonald’s apple pies were deep fried, but eating one today would instantly spark your memory of the third-degree mouth burns from the magma-hot filling. I still want one though, to go with my 870-degree Pizza Hut Personal Pan.

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Automotive nostalgia trips are often similarly short-lived; the original cars we create remakes of died for reasons that still exist today. The first and much glorified two-seater-but-not-a-sports-car Ford Thunderbird only lasted from 1955 to 57 due to poor sales, so it’s not surprising that the 2002 revival didn’t have a lot of takers. The Camaro’s relative lack of practicality compared to a sedan or SUV killed the fourth-generation car, and probably helped seal the reboot’s fate as well. Volkswagen’s reborn Beetle had a good two-decade run but eventually ran its course; I think it happened for many of the same reasons that did in the original Bug.

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Could we change that often-witnessed cycle of failed nostalgic recreations? What if we did yet another generation of Beetle that tried to correct those wrongs of the previous versions, yet capitalized on what made it hot?

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If I say “Volkswagen” to you, what’s the first image that comes to mind? To many, it’s a Beetle; either the original or the revivals from the last quarter century.

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For younger buyers, I’m not really sure. I wouldn’t go so far as to claim that Volkswagen has lost its way, but to me, something has certainly changed. As a kid, the brand was synonymous with our Squareback or Karmann Ghias and Kubelwagen “Things;” later it was Sciroccos or Rabbit Cabrios. Today, I’m sort of hard pressed to tell a current Jetta or one of their SUVs from a Japanese car; at least VW is planning on giving its electric cars real names in the future instead of that silly “ID” moniker.

Hopefully, they’ll rechristen the poorly named “ID Buzz” to “Bus” like everyone calls it now. That’s one bright spot in the line of cars from a brand that has so much valuable heritage to delve into. A modernized Type 2 Bus, the Buzz gives buyers the eco-friendly transporter that flower-power buyers of the glacially slow, climate-control-free original Bus could only dream of. Unfortunately, with a surprisingly limited range, only six legal seats, and price that (at least to me) puts it on the same level as low-mileage used Porsche Taycan wagons, the ID Buzz has been a bit of a disappointment. Most were thinking that it would have been as big a hit as their New Beetle was when it appeared in 1997.

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The New Beetle: talk about a runaway success. Jason has already recanted how the launch of the New Beetle was truly an O.J. chase-caliber touchstone to many people of a certain age. A retro version of an iconic machine was a revelation in a world before PT Cruisers and such had saturated the market. The New Beetle was such a smash success that it was almost its worst enemy. Like the music of ABBA, it was perfectly crafted and appealing but so sugary sweet that backlash was inevitable.

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The New Beetle even made it far enough to spawn a redesigned “A5” model for 2012. With a flattened-out roof, lower profile body, and a slightly more aggressive and less “cute” look, it moved the design forward. But, as evidenced by the current Mustangs, you ultimately get stuck in a loop when modernizing retro.

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Honestly, everyone who wanted a New Beetle had already purchased one at that point, and there was nowhere else to go with it.

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… But there was always another way the Beetle could have gone, but didn’t. Let’s explore how we might bust the old Beetle conundrum.

Back Doors! What A Novel Idea!

While some of the products of the retro-car boom of the early 2000s were flashes in the pan, some did stand the test of time. How’d they do it? They expanded.

That’s right. Throwback cars like the Mini and Fiat 500 didn’t rest on their laurels, and instead continue in the same body style for decades on end. BMW’s Mini started with a two-door hatch but soon branched out into “Clubman” shooting brake models, chopped-roof aggressive sports editions, four-door versions, and eventually even the Countryman SUV crossover variant. Purists will scoff at these no-longer-really-mini Minis, but the brand would have died had they not adapted.

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We did get a new Beetle convertible, but the revived car did not evolve beyond a pair of doors. Practically speaking, the arch-shaped roof also limited interior cargo and passenger space in back, particularly when compared to the car that the Beetle got its mechanicals from: the Golf. We’ve all seen the commercials for how big objects could be carried in boxy three- and five-door versions of Volkswagen’s almost equally iconic subcompact: the Golf/Rabbit.

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Honestly, the versatility of the first Golf is one of many things that put paid to the original Beetle in period. This was hardly something that Volkswagen was unaware of, even years before the Golf’s 1974 debut. Jason once delved into proof that VW had explored making their bread-and-butter car grow an extra set of doors.

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Obviously, that didn’t happen; a four-door air-cooled Wolfsburg product only appeared in the form of the ill-fated and poorly selling Type 4 of 1968. Named the 411, critics said that the numeric title meant “four door, eleven years too late”.

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Ah, but it’s more than lack of doors that hurt that revived Beetle. The “cute” aspect of the Bug most associate with it ignores what was for many the true appeal of the car. As kids, you might have hated riding around in these hot, noisy little things, but dads sure liked driving them. There’s a reason for that.

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Today, a new Volkswagen will typically be an SUV barely decipherable from a Toyota, and a rear-engined Porsche is a massive two-and-a-half-ton thing for orthodontists to drive to their practices. If you get your dad started, he’ll tell you that wasn’t the case before the 911 appeared in 1964. Back then, Porsche’s 365 was certainly lower and faster than a lowly Beetle, but not by as much as you’d think. Mechanically, both cars were extremely similar, and the VW gave you much the same essence of that Porsche, with nearly identical sounds or smells, and exactly the same kind of driving feel.

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You’d never confuse the two, and one certainly didn’t diminish or add value to the other, yet enthusiasts could get similar oversteering thrills from the lowly Beetle at speeds the cops might not even notice. So THAT’S why your dad got the Squareback instead of buying that Malibu with working air conditioning.

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This cross-pollination between Stuttgart and Wolfsburg went on for years. Even as late as 1976, Porsche offered a Volkswagen-powered “full-sized” coupe with the 912E. Made just one year for America, it was a 911 with a larger version of the flat four from that unloved Type 4 Volkswagen 412. Despite the seemingly lowly origins, Porsche had no difficulty asking fifty percent more than the price of a concurrent 1976 Corvette Stingray for a car with a bored-and-stroked example of an engine also used in the same-year VW Bus. Even recently, this clean-but-not-concours example brought in an astonishing $67,000 despite the mere 86 horsepower on tap:

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So if it wasn’t taboo for VW and Porsche to share back then any more than it is to put the Lamborghini name on a Volkswagen SUV platform vehicle today, can’t we try some more?

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If the New Beetle and its A5 successor both tried to emulate the original Beetle, I think I want to push the timeline a bit further along to the last days of the Type 1. I’d like to make a tribute to the model that many if not most of us GenXers rode around in: the Super Beetle.

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It sure looks pretty much the same, but the 1971 Super Beetle was essentially all-new from the (sort of) firewall forward with MacPherson strut front suspension for a far better driving experience and ride, plus nearly double the frunk space (admittedly the bar was pretty low). A compound curved windshield added for 1973 must have made serial Beetle purchasers hyperventilate when they saw this Super Beetle on the showroom floor.  You can’t imagine how hedonistic those seats and that actual plastic dashboard with integrated switches and even side demister vents looked to the average Bug Person; some never got their heads around it.

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I know, I know, but remember that we were dealing with people who were used to the car interior in the image below (I know, the US market one had a plastic “safety” surround, but it was still as flat and featureless as I-80 west of Moline):

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Look at this very late Super Beetle dash below. Fake woodgrain inserts and even an electric clock? That’s like serving a traditional old Beetle owner their typical granola (without raisins) in a silver goblet, I tell you.

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That’s a massive upgrade in the old Vee Dub that many have forgotten about. Nearly thirty years after the 1998 New Beetle proceeded to regurgitate the original for a few decades, it’s time to move the retro timeline ahead a bit. The question is, where do we start for our new Super Beetle?

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For some reason, a few days ago an image of the new EV version of Porsche’s Macan small SUV came onto my screen, and I was instantly and inexplicably stunned at how Beetle-like it looked. Honestly, if it just became a shadow silhouette, you’d find the resemblance uncanny. Serial Bug owner Jason Torchinsky sort of humored me, but I could tell that he wasn’t buying it. Somehow, I had to explore this a little further to see for myself.

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But why? Actually, the answer should be “why not?” We’ve known for nearly eighty years that the Bug has been held back by its door deficiency, so it’s high time we see what correcting that will do. If we were to make that elusive four-door Beetle, it would likely need to be about a foot or more longer than the last Golf-based “new” example from 2019. Surprise, surprise, but that’s exactly the length of the new electric Macan that’s built on the VW PPE (Premium Platform Electric). Behold, here’s the new Super Beetle:

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Throwback color choices like the robin’s egg Marina blue of our old Squareback would make up the palette, including other funk-era shades like Bright Orange, Saturn yellow, and Sumatra green.

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An animation here shows the surprisingly simple changes; I didn’t even touch the greenhouse:

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Twin “exhaust pipes” are mandatory for Beetle-like appearance, even though an EV needs them as much as an original Bug needed a radiator. Maybe they hide rear fog lights or they’re multiplex radio antenna. I really don’t know, but it’s gotta have them. Elephant Foot taillights and an embossed shape on the hatch mimicking the OG Beetle engine lid complete the look. It’s a bit Saab-like with those little rear quarter windows, but Jason made that same comparison to the four-door concept from half a century ago.

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If you think I changed everything, take a look at the animation: it’s surprisingly similar to the Porsche:
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Beyond the typical LED accents, the current Macan EV dashboard is really about as workmanlike as that Super Beetle. Especially in black, the new Porsche is quite basic:

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Again, here’s that lavish Super Beetle dash all trimmed out like it’s a real car or something:

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We’ll be able to keep much of the same look. The gauge binnacle of the New Super Beetle would be smaller than the Macan to match the original VW, and we won’t offer a giant screen in front of the passenger since we know that’s a stupid idea anyway. Flower bud vases and smiley-face-eyes vents as on the 1998 New Beetle were also silliness that none of us GenXers remember in the VWs of our time anyway, so forget that. The Beetle was a driver’s machine in our minds, as Niki Lauda or Emerson Fittipaldi knew from starting their careers in stripped-down Formula V Beetle-based race cars. The cabin needs to reflect that.

We’ll put in a few throwback details like the oh-shit handle and the steering wheel with the dog-on-a-castle logo as your little sister called it. Note also the chrome door handles with the fluted square on the back as seen on countless VAG products.

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Here’s another Easter egg treat for Torch-like Bug anoraks: the heated seats are controlled by yellow-topped levers on the console that recall the heater controls on original Beetles (which, for legal reasons, had a spotlight on them).

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Well, they theoretically were “heater levers” on the old Bug, but the flaps they controlled were usually rusted shut and, even if they weren’t I have to agree with famed auto journalist Peter Egan who claimed that most of the heat had defected to the cold side by the time it got the front passengers. It actually makes sense for these seat heater controls to be prominent since we know that EV users often exercise heated seat use in lieu of forced-air warmth to increase battery range (or, like using the optional gas-fired supplemental heater available in Super Beetles that cut into your fuel economy).

Naturally, we’ll want to decontent the mechanicals a bit to create a sort of “PPE Entry” platform (as VW will do with their “MEB Entry” chassis for their upcoming smallest, least expensive EVs). A single rear motor would be the only power option, and the complex, standard Macan air suspension would give way to less trouble-prone steel springs. I still see this thing ripping off zero-to-sixty times that a 1975 911 Turbo could barely match, and we all know that Jason almost killed himself and his friends in Beetles with less than a quarter of the New Super Beetle’s horsepower. Race this New Super Beetle around town, and I assure you the cops will notice.

Could pricing get below $50,000 from the Macan EV’s base of around $75,000? With the lack of equipment and potential higher production volume, I think this New Super Beetle can happen at an affordable-if-not-bargain price. Let’s face it: at the other end of the spectrum, I seriously doubt that $100,000-plus “Macan Turbo” really packs an extra $40,000 worth of content, do you?

Not A Beetle, But Plays One On TV

I grew up with different air-cooled Volkswagens for about ten years of my childhood, so they bring back fond memories of Pop Rocks and Saturday mornings watching Sid and Marty Croft’s likely-narcotics-spawned television programs on our black and white Zenith. Still, whenever I see a flat-four Vee Dub at a car show, I stick my head in an open window, and that nausea-inducing smell of super-heated German waffle-texture vinyl in July makes me realize why I’d probably be happy if I never rode in one again for the rest of my days.

That’s what this New Super Beetle is all about: the styling returns you to days of seeing Star Wars in the theater but in a car that doesn’t sound like a swarm of atomic sewing machines under the back seat. Here’s a Beetle with air conditioning as cold as your buddy Dave’s parents’ Caprice wagon, and a real heater so you need not carry an ice scraper to clear the inside of the windshield in the otherwise-great-in-winter car.

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Sure, the 1998 New Beetle had that, but all that stuff your dad would spout about a Volkswagen being a “cut rate Porsche”? With this New Super Beetle, it would all be true. It wouldn’t be inexpensive, but adjusted for inflation, a 1973 VW Type 4 started at nearly $5000 more than a far larger Chevy Malibu; historically, Volkswagens never were that cheap, even before dealers gouged them.

Could four doors possibly be the secret sauce to make the Beetle immortal? Maybe, but it’s far more than that. Porsche SUVs are nicely designed and highly capable family vehicles, but having driven one for the last two years, I reluctantly have to say that it isn’t a genuinely “fun” car. It’s like admitting that watching Slaw Dog win the Wiener 500 was far more amusing than watching just about any Formula 1 race. The idea of a rather goofy-looking body that hides a world-class rear-engined enthusiast machine is the true meaning of fun, as appealing today as it was to Beetle buyers over half a century ago. That’s a bit of nostalgia we can all get behind.

 

 

 

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Nick Fortes
Nick Fortes
2 days ago

You’ve already screwed up. Volkswagen would try its hardest to NOT give it the round headlights it deserves.

Nick Fortes
Nick Fortes
2 days ago
Reply to  The Bishop

hahaha yes!

Piston Slap Yo Mama
Piston Slap Yo Mama
2 days ago

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James Thomas
James Thomas
1 day ago

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Piston Slap Yo Mama
Piston Slap Yo Mama
1 day ago
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James Thomas
James Thomas
1 day ago

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Dodsworth
Dodsworth
2 days ago

I’m a fan of the last generation Beetle and I love this. The heated seat controls are ingenious!

PaysOutAllNight
PaysOutAllNight
2 days ago

I would definitely be interested in this four door Beetle. I can’t tell you how much I love it.

But The Bishop should explore the concept even further. Just like MINI did, explore other forms, like wagons. Especially if the rear was upright but rounded, like a 1949 Chevy Panel Van.

Four doors, front end of this Beetle/Macan, rear end of a 1949 Chevy Panel Van. In a pastel color. That’s an EV I’d line up for.

Then jack the same thing up about four inches, add 4×4. Fun stuff.

Last edited 2 days ago by PaysOutAllNight
Ford_Timelord
Ford_Timelord
1 day ago

Perhaps modern versions of the type 3 Fastback, Squareback and the Saloon!

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
2 days ago

Meh, just give me an Ora Cat.

I guess it does throw some shade on people who put Porsche replica bodies on cheap Beetle pans. Kind of feels like spending hundreds of dollars on torn designer jeans.

Carlos Ferreira
Carlos Ferreira
2 days ago

It has the funk and I like it, but I seem to recall VW not having great success with People’s Cars that shared mechanicals with much more expensive brands.

On another note, The Fiat 500X always looked like the offspring of a Macan and Fiat 500, so wondering if there could be a body kit that transform a 500X into a Macan.

Captain Avatar
Captain Avatar
2 days ago

My guess is that if you got into a mosh pit now, you’d enjoy it for about fifteen seconds.

Joke is on you then. I never got into a mosh pit because they clearly looked unenjoyable. I’m there to watch the band, not body slam ex-HS football players who happened to like the same music as me.

Did anyone actually enjoy that garbage?

As for the car……I’ll take one hard top and one convertible of the Super Beetle. The vert in Olympic Blue with a white top and interior to replace my mother in laws. My FIL wrecked hers before my wife was even a thought, and he always said he would replace it. So….I’ll make sure that 50 year old promise finally gets fulfilled.

The hard top for me, Sumatra green over beige.

Make these, and its done deal, VW.

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Carlos Ferreira
Carlos Ferreira
2 days ago
Reply to  Captain Avatar

Props to you for your Starblazers Avatar avatar

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
2 days ago
Reply to  Captain Avatar

I liked mosh pits. They managed to make me look like one of the smarter guys in the room when I hung out at the bar chatting up the ladies.

Cerberus
Cerberus
2 days ago
Reply to  Captain Avatar

Loved them. Got to elbow and shove people without legal ramifications and I never minded a few dozen bruises. When you’re under 18 and there’s a death metal club at a sketchy beach park area, it’s the best thing to do on a Friday night and I certainly wasn’t there for the music, though I generally prefer music to be recorded, anyway. Even before legal weed and stupid prices I refuse to pay, I had been to too many shows where the sound was screwed up or the band seemed to get in a fight before coming on stage and didn’t want to be there all to end up with a headache, smell like skunk from the scumbags, likely sore feet from standing in one spot for hours, and fight through traffic to get out of a parking lot. GWAR, though, you kind of have to see live, but that’s not something I went to for the music, either, as that’s really more stage performance than music concert, something like Jim Rose Circus that opened for NIN.

Church
Church
2 days ago

Shut up and take my money.

Squirrelmaster
Squirrelmaster
2 days ago

I saw a Macan Turbo with a VW emblem on it when I was in D.C. a few months ago. I laughed, but couldn’t figure out if it was a joke the owner did or something someone else did but the owner hadn’t removed. I couldn’t help but think that there was no way the Macan would work as a VW, and despite Bishop’s fine work here, I think that is still true – I don’t think VW has a coherent design language that conveys brand anymore. Aside from nostalgia kicks like the ID.Buzz and the “it has barely changed in decades” Golf, everything else is an anonymous blob of a vehicle that could he made by anyone.

Rapgomi
Rapgomi
2 days ago

As a companion car, I would like to propose a Beetle “Phaeton”, made from a Porsche Panamera with a VW badge and a proper vinyl roof.

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Rapgomi
Rapgomi
2 days ago
Reply to  The Bishop

Perfect!

Kevin Cheung
Kevin Cheung
2 days ago

This looks like one of the most production-ready concepts you’ve churned out so far, and I think something like this would do really well in China. The gas Macan still sells great here, and second-hand New Beetle prices are still staying strong, so people have a clear affinity for something unique and special, though they get pressured by family and parents to buy SUVs.

Offer this with an ID3 powertrain to bring down the price, put the passenger-side screen back (since people like that here for some reason, no judging tho), have some safari-esque overlanding trims available (think Beetle Dune), and I think VW’s gonna have something to beat back those domestic Chinese EV rivals. Or even better, shove in a range extender (ala Scout) in the frunk and see VW dealerships suffer from crowd crush!

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Mechjaz
Mechjaz
2 days ago

My guess is that if you got into a mosh pit now, you’d enjoy it for about fifteen seconds.

I’m happy to report this isn’t the case. It wears me out, and I wish like hell people would keep their damn shirts on, but otherwise I had a blast. By the end of the show I was just full-time launching people into crowd-surfing.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
2 days ago

I like it and not for nostalgia sake, but because it radiates identity (though not ID) and the Macan does not. The Buzz looks more like a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle than a VW, though I suppose that’s a “look.” I am not a four-door fan, but I think your Super Beetle would go over well in today’s market.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
2 days ago
Reply to  The Bishop

Not a rich one, anyway.

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
2 days ago

“if you now consider getting your pants on in the morning to be a major accomplishment.”

Lower, lower, lower your expectations until you achieve something.

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
2 days ago

The Macan is just way too big I think. The ID.3 is a better size, and cheaper. I don’t see them decontenting a Macan to be less than $70k, and then you’ve got the same issue the Buzz has.

If GWM can make the Ora Ballet Cat for less than $30k, then VW can certainly do one for less than $50k, but they won’t. It’s like when the diesel sham was discovered they just gave up trying to make good efficient cheaper cars with personality.

Look at Renault and what they’re doing with the 5 and the 4, why can’t VW do that? Instead we get the ID.3/Cupra Born that look like generic EVs, heck they look like a Bolt EV or Prius C.

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
2 days ago
Reply to  The Bishop

Maybe decontenting wasn’t the right word, I feel like VW has said “this costs $75k”, and in their stubburness won’t offer a variant, no matter what badge, that is $20k less, and even that would still be fairly pricey.

Like the e-tron GT and Porsche Taycan, they’re both basically the same car at the same price. Or just look at the Buzz, VW is like, we spent umpteen billion on this, we’re only gonna sell 5 of them, let’s charge $70k.

Maybe when the e-Boxster comes out they can spin a cheaper Beetle convertible version, that may a be a little more palatable because convertible.

Torque
Torque
2 days ago

1st I am very happy VW finally released the new bus as a full electric. The world is a more interesting place with it in it.

That said they both took so damn long (+20 years) and miss the mark in so many ways* that I’m left to conclude VW product development and mgmt. really did Not want to make it.

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1. No happy vw bus face
2. It weighs a fuck ton
3. Number 2 could be forgiven if it could achieve at least 300 miles of epa range, but this thing will be lucky to get close to ita epa 230 mile range, which realistically should be relatively fine in real life because on road trips people in general will want to stop every 2.5 hours anyway. Still 230 miles of range is Not competitive (see the EV9 and Ioniq 9 twins, or Model X, or Rivian R1S)
4. Number 3 could be forgiven or a lot more forgivable if it was awesome at rapidly recharging and it just isn’t
5. Of course then there’s the $60k base purchase price. Again not competitive with the Korean twins people will buy instead. The original bus was simple, light, and affordable (as well as slow as fuck and zero realistic climate control, acted like a sail in any wind…)

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
2 days ago

So, a modern PT Cruiser style dystopian retro nightmare. A massively heavy, complex, expensive bauble dressed up in “simpler times” cosplay. Terrible on every conceivable level.

James Thomas
James Thomas
1 day ago

Exactly! You put my exact thoughts into words. One thing that seems to be overlooked is relative pricing. Yes, the original VW bus was very popular. It was also very affordable. Had it carried a Porsche price tag, I doubt it would have sold very well. . This new creation is too expensive to gain much market share, besides the other issues you mentioned.

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Emil Minty
Emil Minty
2 days ago

My guess is that if you got into a mosh pit now, you’d enjoy it for about fifteen seconds. You’d quickly realize why you stopped doing it decades ago, even more so if you now consider getting your pants on in the morning to be a major accomplishment.

As a GenXer who still goes to punk shows, watching kids these days mosh is like looking at a photocopy of a photocopy. Dearie, please put down your beer before getting in the pit. It’s just a $3 Miller High Life. You can’t really mosh while holding it up over your head. Sigh.

Cerberus
Cerberus
2 days ago
Reply to  Emil Minty

I’d gladly jump into an old school pit, I just wouldn’t bounce back immediately like the old days. Still preferable to driving whatever this thing is.

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
2 days ago

The Macan starts at just over $75,000

Even if you could get the price down by 1/3 – a $50K Beetle is a non-starter.

But an ORA Punk Cat?
Hell Yes.

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
2 days ago
Reply to  The Bishop

Nearly $50K for a fully-loaded Mini which starts around $38K is very different from starting at $50K for a base-model VW.

Nvoid82
Nvoid82
2 days ago

I would give unreasonable amounts of mine and other’s flesh to the scarab god to make this a reality.

Toecutter
Toecutter
2 days ago

This looks so much better than the Porsche, IMO.

Hoonicus
Hoonicus
2 days ago

“And spread sunshine all over the place
Just put on a happy face!”
Great wheels! Needs more sidewall on the tires.

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Eggsalad
Eggsalad
2 days ago

It might just be viable. These days, I find myself looking at badges or wheel trims to identify the brand of most SUV/crossovers. The brands are almost completely indistinct. This one would be immediately identifiable as a VW.

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
2 days ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

VW should use the Beetle design language for all their electrics. I’d bet the Buzz would be selling at twice the current rate with round-ish headlights. I mean, twice zero is still zero, so why the hell not give it a try?

4moremazdas
4moremazdas
2 days ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

I stopped with my daughter to see the Buzz when we first saw one on the lot. It was cool and at a better price would actually make sense as our family car, and she loved it. They had it proudly out front to draw people in.

It was kind of sad for us both to drive by again yesterday, months after the first one showed up, to see they’d relegated that same release model to the far back of the lot with about 10 of the “cheaper” versions.

The Bishop's Brother
The Bishop's Brother
2 days ago

Let’s be honest, here – The Bishop’s Dad never cross-shopped that 412 with a Malibu. That drive to the beach was ALWAYS going to be miserable.

The Bishop's Brother
The Bishop's Brother
2 days ago
Reply to  The Bishop

But at least the Peugeot had that 8-track with the slightly-misaligned playback head. Yeah, the Swedes laughed their asses off installing the A/C on that Volvo.

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
2 days ago

IIRC – AC for a 240 was a port-installed option well into the 1980s.
Because Swedes didn’t need it.

The Bishop's Brother
The Bishop's Brother
2 days ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

Would not shock me. In terms of “integration”, it was literally nothing more (IIRC) than one of the rectangular knockout blanks replaced with a compressor knob.

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
2 days ago

Well, there was a bit more to it than that.
Compressors, ducting, fans, etc.
Literally.

And yes – California summers too tended to overwhelm the Volvo AC system – particularly for those in the back seat.
Because all that glass allowed in all that solar gain.
Those fans were sure loud too.

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
1 day ago
Reply to  The Bishop

They really weren’t that small for that size car – or much larger post-81.

But go back to the pre-73 Volvos – with zero HVAC vents in the dash unless you bought the under-dash dealer-mounted AC system.
The heat came through either the defroster vents or below-dash vents.

The Bishop's Brother
The Bishop's Brother
1 day ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

But I was popular in the 45min High School carpool drive during the winter. That heater could cause burns. Until the Volvo dumped its lower coolant hose with my band and entire drum set in the back one night.

ShifterCar
ShifterCar
2 days ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

My parents’ 1982(-ish) 244 had dealer installed AC which definitely couldn’t hold it’s own against Iowa summer heat. The AC was just part of the problem though as the car was generally a lemon which put my dad off of buying either a new car or a Volvo for about 25 years.

Ash78
Ash78
2 days ago

I can answer the “What is a Volkswagen” for Gen Alpha: Atlas.

Or if the parents are really edgy, Atlas Cross Sport.

Source: 12yo daughter who still doesn’t see my 24yo Passat as coming from the same company. That one is nostalgically called “Daddy Green Car” and I’m okay with that.

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