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I Finally Met A Fellow Autojourno Who Has Been Nursing A 12-Year Old Grudge Against Me And Oh Boy, The Drama

Torch Daggers

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Dest
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Dest
27 days ago

Wow that guy sounds like such a little bitch! Keep doing your thing Torch, you’re doing great

Lally Singh
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Lally Singh
27 days ago

Oh someone from The Times is miffed for getting called out as a pretentious hypocrite? You don’t say!

The real reason he’s mad is because that’s their entire shtick. He’s powerless in face of the raw truth of it. It’s like calling a demon by their name.

Nick Fortes
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Nick Fortes
1 month ago

Well, you did question if he was deluded and if he was the Sultan of Luxuristan with new-media hands, which…..LOL I am still giggling at.

Aaron Gold
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Aaron Gold
1 month ago

For the record, Jason, I hold *no* grudge against you for the rebuttal you wrote to whatever listicle I did you disagreed with (worst cars? ugliest cars?), though I still think you’re totally wrong because you’re too young to know how shitty a shitty car can be in its heyday. I still want to debate that on a podcast somewhere, it’d be fun.

I had a half-year long-term loan of the shitbox in question (probably in no small part helped by the scathing article in question). Six months of trouble-free, low-cost motoring with no service expenses except a very cheap DIY oil change, but man did that little thing suck on a road trip, and I was very pleased not to get into a crash with a Super Duty (I’ll have the soup). Bonus: Pics of it being washed at Mothers HQ were #1 in Google search for “how to wash a car” for a long, long time. Jim D at Mothers still reminds me about that.

Noflash
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Noflash
1 month ago

My hero…

Johnologue
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Johnologue
1 month ago

That guy publishes opinions on the internet and holds a grudge for 12 years after getting a bad response? Enough to act like a giant baby in public?

Being unable to look back at your own hot-takes over a decade later with some added clarity/distance reflects so poorly. I’m younger, so it isn’t quite the same, but I would not defend most of my decade-old opinions, especially not the sort that were dramatic condemnations like that.

How can he consider himself a professional journalist/editor/etc. if he can’t handle criticism to the point he holds a decade-old grudge over one article? Not some kind of extended feud, one article! Must be a nightmare to work with.

Ben
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Ben
1 month ago

Just wanted to say I read all four pages of comments on this article and it was worth every second.

BassAckwardsRacing
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BassAckwardsRacing
1 month ago

Your name begins with Torch, what the hell did he expect?

Last edited 1 month ago by BassAckwardsRacing
A Reader
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A Reader
1 month ago

The Mirage wasn’t awesome or anything, but it was at least as good as advertised, and performed perfectly well for its intended use. So funny!

Stef Schrader
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Stef Schrader
1 month ago

that is certainly some huffing and puffing and…not blowing the house down, just leaving lol

A Reader
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A Reader
1 month ago

This is amazing. Well done.

TDI_FTW
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TDI_FTW
1 month ago

Well? How was the rest of dinner? Were you able to get some inane questions answered by the Toyota rep?

Forrest
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Forrest
1 month ago

I found your 2014 article and read the article that you criticized. Oh it is THAT guy. He’s on a podcast of Bar and Diver or something like that. I don’t mind him, but he does seem to have a problem with everyone. I would hate to be his HOA president.

Last edited 1 month ago by Forrest
MichaelZ
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MichaelZ
1 month ago
Reply to  Forrest

Speaking as an HOA president, even people with 50% more brain than he has make me want to jump off a cliff. He probably is putting them through so much trauma they’ll need therapy. I can only imagine how behaves over recent grudges if this is an example of a decade old one.

Forrest
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Forrest
1 month ago
Reply to  MichaelZ

It’s not just theoretical. “How my HOA offended me” comes up often with JPH on Window Shop with Bar and Diver.

MichaelZ
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MichaelZ
19 days ago
Reply to  Forrest

I’ll check it out!

MalibuDude
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MalibuDude
1 month ago

Sorry you had to bear the brunt of his attack but it makes for a great story and you come off looking even better. So well done!

Dirtywrencher
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Dirtywrencher
1 month ago

I can only think of one person who would elicit that kind of response from me and I don’t think I’ll be sitting across the table from him anytime soon (no White House invitations forthcoming…).

Scott A
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Scott A
1 month ago

I remember the article but not the specific car. I do remember that the article had a healthy dollop of snark regarding his attitude towards the car. It seems that it must have left him quite butt hurt indeed. He obviously takes himself way to seriously which is something I have never observed in your writing. F him right back as far as I’m concerned.

Last edited 1 month ago by Scott A
Tagarito
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Tagarito
1 month ago

There is nothing wrong with a Mirage. That guy was making such a fuss.

Jmfecon
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Jmfecon
1 month ago

He needs to realize that none of this is for real, it was just a Mirage.

Last edited 1 month ago by Jmfecon
Egg Enthusiast
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Egg Enthusiast
1 month ago

Sounds odd for sure.

Eephus
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Eephus
1 month ago

What the autojourno really hated about the Mirage was that his towering ego wouldn’t fit in it. How dare you not show due respect.

Auto Guy
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Auto Guy
1 month ago

Imma say it: Carrying around that middle name of his is either the cause or the result of long-held grudges. Maybe both things.

986istheanswer
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986istheanswer
1 month ago
Reply to  Auto Guy

Just the fact that he refers to himself with 3 names tells me everything I need to know about this douche.

Forrest
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Forrest
1 month ago
Reply to  986istheanswer

He’s a regular on a podcast with 4 other people including Tony Quiroga. Tony seems to think the childish stuff is endearing. To be fair, the commenters on YouTube seem to find it amusing too, and it probably gets clicks. But the other people on the podcast… some of them look about ready to crack.

Last edited 1 month ago by Forrest
BB 2 wheels > 4
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BB 2 wheels > 4
1 month ago
Reply to  Forrest

Alright, whats this podcast? I need to know.

Forrest
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Forrest
1 month ago

“Window Shop with Car and Driver.” It’s on YouTube, but the format is basically a podcast (5 people on Zoom).

JPH is often on show, but not always.

BB 2 wheels > 4
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BB 2 wheels > 4
1 month ago
Reply to  Forrest

Thank you sir!

MATTinMKE
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MATTinMKE
1 month ago
Reply to  Forrest

Had to look this guy up. Honestly, if he said that to me I’d have a hard time not bursting into.

Max R
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Max R
1 month ago

Team Torch! I looked up this guy and he seems like an a-hole. For example, he wants to gatekeep what a classic is. Nope, classics are in the eye of the beholder.

Cloud Shouter
Cloud Shouter
1 month ago
Reply to  Max R

Nailed it. He worked all his life to be a gatekeeper only to find out the gates are gone.

Guido Sarducci
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Guido Sarducci
1 month ago

So today he writes for the rag that was my go to in the 1970’s, which I had recently decided to try reading again. I attempted to read his last two articles on that site but stopped early on in both, as I simply do not take to his acumen or writing style. Jason, you should be thankful he walked away from that table early without eating dinner, lest he regurgitate anything more obtuse than his current claptrap.

BB 2 wheels > 4
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BB 2 wheels > 4
1 month ago
Reply to  Guido Sarducci

claptrap lolol Stealing that.

Gene
Gene
1 month ago

The veneer is thin with that guy.

Fourmotioneer
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Fourmotioneer
1 month ago

Is this a long-winded way of asking members to support the purchase of a Mirage to be fitted with a gorgeous SoCal man wig

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