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I Guess Every Other Car In The Future Is Going To Be A Nissan Rogue

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Necessity is the mother of invention if you’re creative, but for the motherless and unoriginal, there’s always necessity’s deadbeat dad: Badge-engineering. Nissan is taking it to the furthest extremes, and it seems like basically every new vehicle is going to be some sort of Rogue.

This insight comes from the man himself, Nissan CEO Ivan Espinosa, who has had to go out and explain to reporters how his company has a future, and what that future might be. Having been thwacked by tariffs, Nissan is just one of many companies rethinking how they operate. The Morning Dump can relate!

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You can add the Dutch government to the list. After almost blowing up global car manufacturing, the Dutch are reconsidering how much they want to be responsible for all that misery. Ford and Honda are yet again in the middle of big recalls, but there’s one big difference for Ford.

And Polestar, which is a car company that still exists, is hoping that adding Google Gemini to its cars will help sell people on the idea of owning a Polestar. Sure..

An Infiniti Rogue Is Nigh, Probably

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Dashboard fungus aside, the Infiniti FX45 is one of my all-time favorite SUVs. It represents a time when Infiniti was feeling itself, having sort of won a bunch of F1 championships and was otherwise differentiating itself from Lexus with handsome and slightly sportier offerings.

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These days I’m not entirely sure what Infiniti stands for, although I’m sure adding a Nissan Rogue derivative probably isn’t going to significantly damage what little reputation the brand has left. A recent theme of TMD is just “What are Japanese automakers going to do?” Toyota seems fine, and Honda is currently not in an entirely precarious position, although even Honda has a mind for the future.

I was clear earlier this week that Nissan’s step-brother, Mitsubishi, should get super weird. Right now, that mostly means providing Nissan with the laziest badge-engineering ever to create the Nissan Rogue PHEV. One person’s “lazy” is another person’s “efficient,” and if you can be one thing, be efficient.

Ok, so certain Mitsubishis are Nissan Rogues. Perhaps certain Hondas could just be Nissan Rogues, as demonstrated by the topshot in last week’s TMD. Is there anything else that could be a Nissan Rogue?

According to Nissan boss Ivan Espinosa in this interview with Hans Greimel, Infiniti could also get a Rogue:

How can we bring more volume out of the Rogue in the U.S.? One of the ideas is adding some derivatives.

We will try to maximize the assets that we have there, looking at what more we can do in Smyrna with the Rogue, I think with derivatives and with e-Power.

Like the Infiniti derivative?

This is one of the things we’re exploring. Also, we’re considering how and to what extent we can localize e-Power in the region as well.

The derivative we can share as of now is the Infiniti. This is the one that we’re looking at more seriously. And this is obvious because we have the QX50 and QX55 that are coming to an end. So, this could be replaced by a derivative from the Rogue.

Ok, all this e-Power stuff is about Nissan finally getting into hybrids in the United States. One of the issues is that the e-Power system is more configured for low-speed European and Japanese-style commuting, but that’s being fixed for the latest version, apparently.

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Espinosa makes it clear that more and more hybrids will be sold by Nissan and everyone.

Honestly, if you’d have told me that there was a Rogue-based Infiniti, I’d have said “Yes, of course, the QXmumblemumble.” It turns out the QX60, which was formerly… something with a “J” I think… is built on Nissan’s D-platform, like the Pathfinder, whereas the CMF-C/D platform somehow doesn’t have an Infiniti derivative.

While the Rogue isn’t considered by many even the fifth-best car in its class, it’s a relatively affordable option and something already being built in the United States. I’m ultimately more interested in derivatives. Given that no one cares about greenhouse gases anymore, could we get a GT-R-powered Rogue? What about a Toyota bB Open Deck style convertible truck? Let’s get creative, folks.

The Dutch Government Would No Longer Like To Hold This Feces-Covered Toddler

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What’s most interesting to me about the whole potential Nexperia kerfuffle is that, while many people might agree with the Dutch government that Chinese control of this important chip company is worth monitoring, almost no one had any interest in a fight over it.

There’s just too much fatigue after the pandemic, the resulting chip shortage, tariffs, and the collapse of consumer sentiment. It’s why so many people are welcoming the news that the Dutch government has decided to remove its control over the Sino-Dutch chipmaker, which set into motion fears that chips might not be available to make cars.

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Does this mean that everyone is happy? No. The company is still at war with itself, reports Nikkei Asia, and everyone is fine with that so long as the company keeps selling chips:

Although the move will give some comfort to customers that the clash over Nexperia between China and the Netherlands is easing, supply chain issues have not yet been resolved.

Nor has a dispute between Nexperia’s European headquarters and its Chinese parent Wingtech 600745.SS which was sparked by the Dutch state taking control of Nexperia on September 30.

Making China the world’s factory continues to have serious consequences.

Ford And Honda Recalls Highlight The Importance Of OTA Updates

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Source: Ford

Ford is recalling more than 200,000 of its Bronco and Brono Sport SUVs for instrument panels that might just stop working. This applies to 2025 and 2026 models. The good news, at least, is that NHTSA says the remedy is a software update over-the-air. Given how often Ford has had to recall cars, being able to do this electronically is a huge cost savings.

What about Honda? It’s also recalling more than 200,000 cars, this time all Honda Accord Hybrids built between 2023 and 2025. The software issue for these vehicles is a failure of the integrated control module, which could result in loss of drive power. That’s bad.

Honda, though, can’t issue an OTA update for those Accords, meaning that customers will have to bring their cars into the dealer.

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Do American Consumers Want AI Controls In Their Car?

Google Gemini Coming To All Polestar Models
Google Gemini coming to all Polestar models

Polestar, a company I’m like 67% sure still sells cars in the United States, is out with news that it’s teaming up with Google to add Google Gemini voice assistant. From a press release:

Sid Odedra, Head of UI/UX at Polestar, says: “Our collaboration with Google is a great example of how we continue to evolve the digital experience in our cars. Gemini brings the next generation of AI voice interaction into the car, and we’re excited to give a first look at how it will enhance the driving experience.”

Gemini is an upgrade from Google Assistant with generative AI integrated, enabling users to have a more natural conversation with their Polestar. In addition to simple commands, users can expand their interaction with Gemini Live. With a simple prompt: “Hey Google, let’s talk”, users can activate the new feature, which enables them to brainstorm aloud, ask follow-up questions, and access new learning opportunities on the go. Gemini will replace the current Google Assistant in all Polestar cars.

Yeah, I’d love to talk to Google and tell it how much it’s screwing up news websites, but I don’t think my Polestar would give me a good answer for why Google is doing that. Based on my experience trying to use Gemini in Google Docs, I imagine talking to your Polestar will be something like this:

Me: Hey Google, let’s talk!

Polestar: Sure, what’s going on Matt? How can I help you?

Me: Sure, can you explain to me how companies like NVIDIA investing in companies like Open AI who then in turn buy more chips from companies like NVIDIA and build these massive power-sucking data centers isn’t creating some sort of terrible, circular logic-fueled bubble that’s going to blow up eventually?

Polestar: I’m sorry, Gemini isn’t working now, would you like me to draw a picture of Jason made to look like he’s a furry monster from a Miyazaki film?

Me: Can you just turn on the radio?

Polestar: I’m sorry, Gemini isn’t working now.

Chinese consumers seem to love AI in-car assistance, which is why every automaker there is rushing to get it into their cars, but I’m not sure how it’ll play in the West.

What I’m Listening To While Writing TMD

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The Big Question

What would be the coolest Rogue derivative? Who else should make a Rogue?

Top photo: Infiniti/Nissan

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Porschebago
Porschebago
1 month ago

A rental Rogue was foisted upon me in Colorado a couple of weeks ago. It was a perfectly capable yet entirely uninspiring transportation appliance.

Amazingly, I can recall almost nothing about it, as no part of the experience made any sort of impact on any part of my psyche. It did have CarPlay, which has become an unofficial requirement in any vehicle I drive, and I listened to many podcasts as I drove through the boring-ass Kansas-y part of the state.

I cannot even recall what color it was. Is “bland” a color?

Wuffles Cookie
Wuffles Cookie
1 month ago
Reply to  Porschebago

Rogues are sort of becoming the default rental in a lot of places, and they are just inoffensively bland enough to be good at the job. I don’t really remember any good rental cars, but the terrible ones definitely stick out in my mind. Car Play/Android Auto is a lifesaver as you mention.

Fuzzyweis
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Fuzzyweis
1 month ago

How about a retro Rogue, Datsun Stanzrogue. Or for the CEO wife segment a Rogue Cross Cabriolet!

For the AI, isn’t adding Google tracking to a Chinese car a bit redundant?

MaximillianMeen
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MaximillianMeen
1 month ago

What would be the coolest Rogue derivative? 

To compete with the Overfinch Holland & Holland Range Rover, Nissan should offer the Pep Boys Dickinson Commando Rogue, complete with plastic storage bins for holding a used Dickinson Commando 20 ga., a handle of Kentucky Deluxe blended whiskey, and a case of Milwaukee’s Best Light.

Avalanche Tremor
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Avalanche Tremor
1 month ago

Considering I misread the part about a GT-R-powered Rogue and thought you were joking about a GT-R derivative of a Rogue, I vote that. The GT-Rogue. Not GT-R powered, just GT-R badge engineered for the next generation of GT-R.

VaiMais
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VaiMais
1 month ago

RE Rogue etc. I dunno. All I see and feel are tons of hard boiled eggs rolling around. I do enjoy the comments. Just dont me get excited, -100 or +100. I guess I’m just too (?) [old] [die hard]. CVT? GTFO: 5MT or die. 3 cyl? GTFO: I-6 or die. F*** if its not BoF I’m out anyway

GreatFallsGreen
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GreatFallsGreen
1 month ago

Perhaps certain Hondas could just be Nissan Rogues, as demonstrated by the topshot in last week’s TMD.

Actually, if they’re sprucing it up for an Infiniti, maybe it could be an Acura too. I don’t know if there’s rumors about a next-gen RDX (and the electric RSX is coming) but having Nissan build something for that segment for them would free up some production space for more CR-Vs or something.

SAABstory
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SAABstory
1 month ago

Rogue Altima. It’s like the best of both (slightly terrible) worlds.

Evo_CS
Evo_CS
1 month ago
Reply to  SAABstory

I mean, isn’t nearly every Altima on the road potentially a Rouge Altima?

Stryker_T
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Stryker_T
1 month ago
Reply to  Evo_CS

only when they wear their blush.

Evo_CS
Evo_CS
1 month ago
Reply to  Stryker_T

*looks at comment

Oh goddamnit!!

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
1 month ago
Reply to  Evo_CS

I don’t recall, how many space saver spares does the Rogue come with?

Porschebago
Porschebago
1 month ago
Reply to  SAABstory

“Rogue Altima, the official car of Houston. Now with even more durable paper temp tags.”

Dottie
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Dottie
1 month ago

Soon there will be Talltimas for every budget. For an extra $2499 they’ll even upgrade you to the Authentic Heritage Package which swaps 3 of your tires for mismatch donuts, removes the front bumper, and throws in a complimentary set of headlight eyelashes and a fuzzy, pink steering wheel cover.

DialMforMiata
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DialMforMiata
1 month ago

X-Men Rogue edition. Yellow and blue. When you sit in the seat it saps your life force. Oh wait, a regular Rogue does that.

Brockstar
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Brockstar
1 month ago

How about a Cadillac Rogueham

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 month ago

Isn’t the Nissan Rogue living in Lebanon, now?

Torque
Torque
1 month ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

Well played Canopysaurus…
Well played 🙂

James McHenry
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James McHenry
1 month ago

TBQ: They already did the stupid Rogue 1 edition, so…

…Yeah, I can’t think of anything “cool” to do with one other than stuffing a VR38 and the drivetrain of an R35 into a Rogue. But there’s already the Juke R, so been there, done that…

…actually, screw it, give it to Dacia. They’ll figure out something that isn’t “give it a thousand horsepower.”

Ben
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Ben
1 month ago

Gemini has basically ruined voice control on my phone. I tried to switch back to the old assistant (while it still exists), but it seems Maps still insists on *bleep*ing Gemini, which means when I tried to voice navigate to the nearest O’Reilly, it proceeded to pop up a non-clickable list of O’Reilly stores in the area, which it then read the addresses of, completely ignoring anything I said to it. Oh, and for some reason the volume it was speaking in was barely audible so I had to turn my car volume up super high to figure out what it was doing, which was really fun when my music started playing again after I gave up on Maps and just went to the O’Reilly I knew how to get to, even though it wasn’t the closest one.

It also can’t seem to figure out how to call my Dad, a thing every voice control system I’ve ever used (including the standalone one in my 10 year-old truck that doesn’t require a billion dollar data center to do voice recognition) has been able to do with minimal fuss. It’s so bad that it’s literally less distracting to just pick up my phone and call that way than to use the voice controls.

So I’ll give you two guesses whether I want Gemini in my car. First one doesn’t count.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
1 month ago

Make mine a Rogue One.
See you on Scarif.

I am One with The Force, and The Force is with me.

James McHenry
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James McHenry
1 month ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

They’ve already done one!

Scott
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Scott
1 month ago

I can’t believe that I almost never see an Infiniti FX SUV anymore. They used to be around A LOT… in fact, I’d say they were the most recognizable Infiniti vehicles for quite a few years, along with the original G35/37 coupes, and only car guys knew the coupes weren’t two-door Altimas. I never drove or even sat in an FX… my impression is that they were small inside, but fun for what they were. Not super practical obviously, but neither are all the zillions of SUV ‘coupes’ that have rolled off assembly lines since the FX.

Rogue derivates? Let’s just get to the end-game and release a “Costco” edition, with docking clamps on the rear bumper for shopping carts and hot dog and drink holders for each and every seat.

I do NOT have any interest in having an AI assistant in any car that I own, but I WOULD very much like to see a picture of Jason made to look like he’s a furry monster from a Miyazaki film. 🙂

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1 month ago

Everything will be a Nissan rogue, everything will have AI. Could this result in the Rogue AI that I have been warned could kill humanity?

H4llelujah
H4llelujah
1 month ago

Do American Consumers Want AI Controls In Their Car?

No.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago
Reply to  H4llelujah

I have two cars I can yell at to do things now (allegedly the Mercedes can do quite a bit that way), and I never have, not even once. Nope, not interested.

Huja Shaw
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Huja Shaw
1 month ago
Reply to  H4llelujah

That would be F*CK NO!

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
1 month ago

What would be the coolest Rogue derivative? Who else should make a Rogue?

I’m sorry Matt, I really am, but this is one of the worst questions anyone has ever asked me. It fills me with the bleakest, darkest sadness. I can’t actually respond with an answer, because as I try to type it, I begin to uncontrollably sob for the future.

Manwich Sandwich
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Manwich Sandwich
1 month ago

What would be the coolest Rogue derivative? Who else should make a Rogue?”

Rolls-Royce… and they should call it the Brogue.

It would be like a Rogue, but with lots of wood and leather added, a whiskey dispenser and an exterior that looks like this shoe:
https://us.barkershoes.com/cdn/shop/products/Fearne_7127DW57_MultiColoured_angle_c1906a5b-bc59-4f38-aa0f-757eca281317_1080x.png?v=1756708484

Scott
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Scott
1 month ago

If it wasn’t too uncomfortable, I would definitely wear that shoe. It reminds me of those VW Golfs where each body panel was painted a different color.

OverlandingSprinter
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OverlandingSprinter
1 month ago
Reply to  Scott

The Nissan Rogulequin

Ben
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Ben
1 month ago

Now I kind of want a Cadillac Brogueham.

Drive By Commenter
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Drive By Commenter
1 month ago

Infiniti Rogue sounds like an indie band name. So of course they won’t do it.

Load it with leather, sound deadening and a slick marketing campaign. They’ll sell well to folks who want a cushy ride and a nicer service waiting area than the other subprime borrowers who can’t fake it as much.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 month ago

I don’t know what would make the best Rogue derivative, I just know it should never incorporate AI because we all have seen the movies about what happens when AI goes Rogue.

Dan1101
Dan1101
1 month ago

Yes software to do OTA updates is great, but software is often what leads to the recalls to begin with.

Also there have been various stories of updates bricking cars or unexpectedly happening when not expected/desired. I recall a Ford one about a year ago.

Colin Greening
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Colin Greening
1 month ago

The only individual I’ve personally known who owned a Nissan Rogue was my older sister. She is possibly the most selfish, narcissistic, unpleasant person on the face of the planet. That alone kills any interest I have in a Rogue, GT-R powered or otherwise.

Bags
Bags
1 month ago
Reply to  Colin Greening

My parents got one to replace their miserable 1st gen equinox. Huge upgrade until the CVT transmission issues started happening.

They had it go into limp mode multiple times while driving between Phoenix and Vegas. A couple of tows, many dealer visits, and they couldn’t do anything because they couldn’t replicate the issue. Finally they brought it in for a new transmission at 50k miles. When it was in, Nissan issued a tech bulletin for “transmissions overheating and going to limp mode”. Turns out the issue was that at prolonged higher temps it would triggered an over-pressure alarm. The fix was to drain just a little bit of fluid out so it had more room to expand. Never had a problem with it again (though they sold it before the warranty was over anyway).
An easy fix for a simple problem that likely lost Nissan tens of thousands of customers among the other CVT issues.

Huja Shaw
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Huja Shaw
1 month ago
Reply to  Bags

Desert heat is hard on cars in predictable and unpredictable ways.

Bags
Bags
1 month ago
Reply to  Huja Shaw

No doubt. Part of the difficulty in diagnostics may have been that they never had issues in Phoenix, but rather while leaving Phoenix. Because Phoenix is flat and leaving Phoenix is hilly. In any case, if I recall correctly, they knew heat was the issue. They just didn’t have any solution for it.

Huja Shaw
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Huja Shaw
1 month ago
Reply to  Bags

There was a period of time I’d make the drive from LA to Scottsdale regularly. Right when you crossed into AZ, it was a steady climb and there were days I’d have to shut off the A/C because the car was laboring so much.

Nick Fortes
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Nick Fortes
1 month ago
Reply to  Colin Greening

A client of my wife has TWO!!! An OG body style and a current gen. Not sure why she needs them both but whatever.

Colin Greening
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Colin Greening
1 month ago
Reply to  Nick Fortes

Presumably they take turns going rogue so she needs a backup.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago

By definition, there is no such thing as a cool Rogue.

I don’t want AI in my computer, never mind my car, and I make a decent chunk of my salary from that bullshit at this point.

AssMatt
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AssMatt
1 month ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

But the cheerleader in Heroes was SO EXCITED when she got to drive her dad’s!

Hoonicus
Hoonicus
1 month ago

Oh yeah, the people are clamoring for another blatherskiting rogue.

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