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I Went To The Press Trip After The One Where That Guy Yelled At Jason, And You Don’t Know The Half Of It

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Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
1 month ago

Hot Take:
There are fewer things to write about in the traditional “Here’s the new X and let us tell you about it” automotive media format.

Meanwhile there had been a surplus of media outlets created – many of which were;
a) PR statement regurgitations, and/or
b) original content poorly written, and/or
c) earned insufficient money beyond the VC stage.

So as the industry consolidates, people who worked for these outlets are losing their jobs.
Now they need to get their own everyday drivers, pay for their own vacations and bar bills rather than rely on pressers and junkets and deep PR pockets – not to mention find some kind of income stream.
Those who probably should never have been in the business at all – and some who were good and still lost out – now can’t accomplish that in the remaining media. Or it’s taken them months, if not years, to find a new gig and recover some of what they had.
So they’re struggling, hurt & angry.
And they lash out on those who are doing okay.

End of Story.

05LGT
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05LGT
1 month ago

Look confused, then bright when you realize why it’s confusing; “Actually, Beau wrote that one, let me get him on speaker so you guys can talk it through…” And laugh at the vapor trail as they flee in terror.

Dodsworth
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Dodsworth
1 month ago

If I’m reading between the lines correctly, you’re asking for a nationwide network of safe houses for Jason?

davesaddiction - Long Live OPPO!
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davesaddiction - Long Live OPPO!
1 month ago
Reply to  Dodsworth

The Underground Torchbugroad?

Dodsworth
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Dodsworth
1 month ago

Psst. The password is “tail light.”

Ottomottopean
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Ottomottopean
1 month ago

Lightning rod in a bottle.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
1 month ago

He’s bent about FERRARI cutting off cars?

C’mon.

GTFOH with that.

Kuruza
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Kuruza
1 month ago
Reply to  Dan Roth

I know, right?
That’s like a late-show host saying that he got in hot water with the current FCC because he did his job. Ferrari is the Soup Nazi of press cars. They blackballed CHRIS HARRIS, ffs. Sounds like a badge of honor.
But who knows? Maybe speaking any ill of Maranello is an unforgivable taboo. I tried making this exact comment an hour ago and got punted into the greys for the first time since the jello picnic. What gives?

Last Pants
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Last Pants
1 month ago

Jason is no stranger to altercations over seemingly little details if his tail lights bar brawls are true.

BenCars
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BenCars
1 month ago

Ooh, more tea being spilled!

But honestly these things happen a lot in media. Not everybody gets along, and you just have to live with that.

Dolsh
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Dolsh
1 month ago

So now I just think the throw down from The Legend of Ron Burgundy is a real thing. All we need now is a fake movie poster celebrating a triumphant Torch, David, Matt and Alanis standing over their vanquished foes.

StillNotATony
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StillNotATony
1 month ago
Reply to  Dolsh

Mercedes coming in with a trident!!!

755_SoCalRally
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755_SoCalRally
1 month ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

Where did you get that hand grenade from?

Harvey Firebirdman
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Harvey Firebirdman
1 month ago
Reply to  755_SoCalRally

David Tracy “I don’t know”

Dodsworth
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Dodsworth
1 month ago
Reply to  Dolsh

Singing a few bars of “Afternoon Delight.”

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
1 month ago

Who the hell is only spending 1:48 or less at the Autopian? Unless that’s dd:hh:mm in which case carry on.

Nick B.
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Nick B.
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

Might be me. I work third and catch up on the day’s articles during downtime. Sometimes I gotta catch up on a whole week’s worth on Fridays. Sometimes things break and I gotta drop everything (including the article I’m reading) to fix it, so some of my visits have absolutely been less than two minutes.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago

As others have mentioned, I think Torch is a target because he stands out and seems un-intimidating personality-wise and physically. In the case of the editor, I’ll take your word on his character and offer that it’s not so much an invite to bullying, more that he’s affable, so less likely to take someone’s venting personally and get combative in return.

Spopepro
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Spopepro
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

I dislike that I am “that guy” but there may be other influences, conscious or unconscious, why a fella just looking for bagels named Torchinsky may be a target for some folks.

IRegretNothing, Esq, DVM, BBQ
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IRegretNothing, Esq, DVM, BBQ
1 month ago
Reply to  Spopepro

It’s a reasonable thing to wonder about, sadly. We’ve had commenters booted from this site for saying bigoted shit about Mercedes. I am proud that every time someone has made a comment like that about her the response from the rest of us has been to tell that person to eff off.

Gen3 Volt
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Gen3 Volt
1 month ago

I’m proud that y’all have done such a good job of running off such folks that I’ve literally never read an unkind comment directed that way.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  Spopepro

I didn’t mention that as I didn’t want it so seem that I thought either of these guys had that reason here, but unfortunately, yes.

Kuruza
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Kuruza
1 month ago

“… although he did add that Ferrari stopped giving him cars.”
That’s like a late-show host saying that he got in hot water with the current FCC because he did his job. Ferrari is the Soup Nazi of press cars. They blackballed CHRIS HARRIS, ffs. Sounds like a badge of honor to me.

Last edited 1 month ago by Kuruza
Undecided profile name
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Undecided profile name
1 month ago

You could recruit members who are at least a foot taller than torch and can bench press him, to go on trips with him as his “bodyguards”/ shrimp consumption recorders. Have a little coach’s clicker and count away while glaring and looking large.

Rockchops
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Rockchops
1 month ago

Alternately, hire someone shorter than Torch (but maybe who does a lot of squats) and have Torch sit on their shoulders wearing a long trenchcoat. It always worked in the cartoons, and that’s how I envision the life of Autopian journalists. Anyways, now Torch is 9 feet tall and can cower over those other journos….

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
1 month ago
Reply to  Rockchops

Am shorter. Also available.

Capable of being loud.

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
1 month ago

I did this for my sister once. Turns out wearing heavy boots and all black and looking mean as shit is an effective deterrent for stalkers.

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
1 month ago

We’ve considered hiring Danny Trejo for our engineering department for this reason.

PlatinumZJ
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PlatinumZJ
1 month ago

I’m available! Do I need to bring my whompin’ stick?

Ben
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Ben
1 month ago

I am a very large human being and have done this for friends on multiple occasions. It’s actually quite amazing how fast bullies run away when someone bigger than them shows up. You don’t even have to say or do anything threatening.

Lori Hille
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Lori Hille
1 month ago

What’s interesting is that none of the other car sites I visit daily made your list… but is the Drive where Andrew Collins is? I will sometimes search for authors by name from time to time.

Grudges hurt the grudge holder more than the grudge recipient.

I_drive_a_truck
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I_drive_a_truck
1 month ago
Reply to  Lori Hille

Andrew’s the Executive Editor over there. Will it Dog lives!

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  Lori Hille

I wish I could get my middle sister to learn that last part. She holds onto grudges like she can turn them into diamonds and I have no idea how many times I’ve said that the people she’s holding them against aren’t thinking of her, but her thinking of them is handing them a win (that’s only for those grudges that are legitimate, not the ones she’s holding against someone who doesn’t even know they did something she perceives as wrong, only that she broke contact, and even then, I’d bet many of them think they just drifted apart without acrimony).

Thousand dollar car, ain't worth a darn
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Thousand dollar car, ain't worth a darn
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

“Living rent free in your head” comes to mind…

Username, the Movie
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Username, the Movie
1 month ago

On the one hand, I do find this highly entertaining, on the other hand I am honestly kinda upset that people feel they can go after Torch. My theory, (having met none of these awesome writers here yet) is that the other journalists think they can push Torch around or intimidate him due to his, shall we say, stature, and his overall affable, honestly nice person vibes. I take this personally as I tend to share similar traits and have noticed people coming for me as an easier target at times. I have learned to just be grumpy more often to balance this out, but I wouldn’t want that for Torch. Sad Grumpy Torch just wouldn’t translate to the masterpieces of articles we get to read here. Occasionally grumpy Torch articles are enjoyed when they come, but even they tend to be more tongue in cheek than truly grumpy.

Mechjaz
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Mechjaz
1 month ago

I’ve met several and they’re delightful. Still hoping I’ll get to meet Mercedes and MH and Alanis one day. And Thomas and PV and Brian S, so that I can temper my natural dickishness with “hey these are real people.” I’ll still try to find Lewin if I ever get to go to Australia, too. Adrian I’ll just keep an eye out for if I find a tastefully decorated volcano lair in the UK.

The first time I met Torch, he offered me a super pizza-greasy rag to clean up with. He’s one of the good ones *sniff*

Username, the Movie
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Username, the Movie
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

I would definitely like to meet all of the Autopian writers eventually, including Lewin and Adrian (and wherever The Bishop lives)

Adrian Clarke
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Adrian Clarke
1 month ago

Do I want to meet you is the question.

Username, the Movie
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Username, the Movie
1 month ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Oh most assuredly not, I am not interesting enough, I don’t have good automotive design taste, I imagine our music preferences do not align very much and I am not nearly as capable of an author. I would most likely just give you a vague thumbs up from a reasonable distance and not subject you to anything more than that.

Adrian Clarke
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Adrian Clarke
1 month ago

Perfect. That’s the sort of fan interaction I can tolerate.

Huja Shaw
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Huja Shaw
1 month ago

Just a matter of time before the entire staff of The Autopian dance/fights with another car enthusiast publication like in West Side Story.

Beto O'Kitty
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Beto O'Kitty
1 month ago
Reply to  Huja Shaw

Maybe with Motor Week (45)?

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
1 month ago
Reply to  Huja Shaw

Mirage Review 2: Electric Boogaloo

Slower Louder
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Slower Louder
1 month ago
Reply to  Huja Shaw

“It’s not a gang! It’s a club!”

Thousand dollar car, ain't worth a darn
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Thousand dollar car, ain't worth a darn
1 month ago
Reply to  Huja Shaw

In a bar fight, always hit the biggest guy. You might get lucky and drop him. If not, you would have ended up fighting him at the end, anyway.

I don’t know where I heard this and I’ve been in zero bar fights.

“Closed course, professional driver, YMMV”

Ben
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Ben
1 month ago

As usually the biggest guy in the bar I do not endorse this strategy. 😛

Spikersaurusrex
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Spikersaurusrex
1 month ago

What is bounce rate?

Joshua Elliott
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Joshua Elliott
1 month ago

People who land on the home page then leave without clicking on anything

Spikersaurusrex
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Spikersaurusrex
1 month ago
Reply to  Joshua Elliott

Thanks!

RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
1 month ago
Reply to  Joshua Elliott

So…psychopaths? I can’t imagine clicking on Autopian and NOT clicking on anything!

Pupmeow
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Pupmeow
1 month ago

Some of us have hundreds of open tabs and click-happy fingers! It’s a sickness.

Last edited 1 month ago by Pupmeow
David Fernandez
David Fernandez
1 month ago

I only visit a select few websites and go to them to see if there is anything new to read, where there isn’t I just close out.

Now that I know this is not helping them, I will do my best to stop.

Defenestrator
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Defenestrator
1 month ago

Well,and people who follow via RSS and go to each story separately from there instead of using the main page. Near-100% bounce rate there.

MikeInCO
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MikeInCO
1 month ago
Reply to  Joshua Elliott

I generally hit the homepage then open everything I want to read in new tabs instead of going back and forth…does that count as a bounce?

Spikersaurusrex
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Spikersaurusrex
1 month ago

Ferrari stopped giving him cars and he blames you guys? No disrespect intended, but I don’t get the feeling Ferrari is giving you guys press loaners either. It just isn’t the focus of this community. If Ferrari did do it because of you guys, well damn! you guys have some power!

Also, I don’t know Torchinsky personally, but he comes across more as a hilarious rogue than the guy in charge.

Elhigh
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Elhigh
1 month ago

This kind of drama can only be settled by a rap album.

Johnathon Gustin
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Johnathon Gustin
1 month ago
Reply to  Elhigh

I was thinking a quarter mile at a time, but either way, this whole situation is Ludacris.

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
1 month ago

I don’t know, I was thinking all of this is pretty Juvenile.

Pupmeow
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Pupmeow
1 month ago

Life ain’t a track meet, it’s a marathon.

Lori Hille
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Lori Hille
1 month ago
Reply to  Elhigh

Rock, paper, scissors?

Mr E
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Mr E
1 month ago
Reply to  Elhigh

I’ll get the Ice-T

(it’s lemonade!)

Cloud Shouter
Cloud Shouter
1 month ago
Reply to  Elhigh

Nah. They gotta go old school.

Manual typewriters at ten paces.

Last edited 1 month ago by Cloud Shouter
EXL500
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EXL500
1 month ago
Reply to  Elhigh

“A minor.”

Greg
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Greg
1 month ago

I’ve never visited carscoops or insideevs. But for the others, and some not listed, this site is hands down the most reader interactive and I think that is a big reason for your traffic. You guys make yourselves available to us, and try to keep the vibe “mom and pop”. You’re honest about the struggles and challenges you face. Hell, you even send nice emails telling me why my comments were deleted. Just so you know, that’s not common practice!

The other places are mad you are raising the bar.

RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
1 month ago
Reply to  Greg

“Hell, you even send nice emails telling me why my comments were deleted.”

This is such a great, hilarious line!

Howie
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Howie
1 month ago
Reply to  Greg

I got nice email saying my comment was acceptable!

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  Howie

Yeah, after I submit it three times, thinking it’s a cognitive issue. Then a day later it shows up three times, and everyone else thinks it is acognitive issue. What’s up with that?

Howie
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Howie
1 month ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

Dunno, mine posted quick. email came pretty quick too.

Dolsh
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Dolsh
1 month ago
Reply to  Greg

I’m a little surprised at carscoops being that high. But I’m probably biased since they banned me. Apparently you can’t disagree with the writers there when they write things that are obviously and verifiably wrong.

Greg
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Greg
1 month ago
Reply to  Dolsh

Thanks for the heads up, I’ll continue to skip it!

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
1 month ago
Reply to  Dolsh

Carscoops seems to get tons of links on my Google homepage. I’m going to bet that is where a lot of that traffic is coming from.

EXL500
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EXL500
1 month ago
Reply to  Dolsh

I go there every morning. It’s a 10 second what happened thing.

AlterId hails Gul Torchinsky!
AlterId hails Gul Torchinsky!
1 month ago
Reply to  Greg

Hell, you even send nice emails telling me why my comments were deleted.

I didn’t get one when my comment was edited, although it was apparent why. I guess that’s a courtesy only afforded to paying customers. I did get emails when a couple were approved after a moderation delay, either due to too many links or for using a word synonymous with a regularly published journal or ammunition clip that contains a character string adopted as a movement (not bowel, although any confusion would be understandable) that triggers an automatic response.

Bkp
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Bkp
1 month ago

Think that Torch getting the majority of the flak might have anything to do with Torch maybe being one of the most visually unique of your staff?

Also, more congrats on those analytics!

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  Bkp

I can think of two or three Autopian writers who would stand out in a crowd more than Jason.

Did a Google for Jason Torchinsky, and gee, there’s another one. There are a couple of other Hugh Crawfords who are active in politics whom I get misdirected mail for, and I get the impression that they are terrible people.

Mercedes Streeter
Mercedes Streeter
1 month ago

I just want to say that I’m proud of that visit duration metric. A lot of that is because a whole bunch of you spend a lot of time reading my 4,000-word sagas. 🙂

Tiny Mouse
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Tiny Mouse
1 month ago

Always looking for the LOL’s, never know what’s going to happen next.

subsea_EV-VI
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subsea_EV-VI
1 month ago

Sagas that are well written, well researched, and inevitably send me down several (many) wikipedia rabbit holes.

Last Pants
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Last Pants
1 month ago

Other articles feel half written when you get used to this style.

I don't hate manual transmissions
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I don't hate manual transmissions
1 month ago

Judging by the like count on your comment, you’ll likely qualify for COTD. Are you allowed to quote yourself? 😉

PlatinumZJ
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PlatinumZJ
1 month ago

Happy to contribute! ^_^ Your enthusiasm makes for some very compelling reading, even about topics that wouldn’t typically catch my attention.

Burt Curry
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Burt Curry
1 month ago

Maybe it’s time to go work on that old French car…

Johnologue
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Johnologue
1 month ago

Drama aside, congrats on the analytics! This site deserves every one of those little trophy icons.

Spaghetti Cat
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Spaghetti Cat
1 month ago

I picture a guy waving his arms around at Jason while Jason, not hearing a word that is said, wonders if he can extricate himself quick enough to get one of the last remaining bagels.

Jack Trade
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Jack Trade
1 month ago
Reply to  Spaghetti Cat

I also imagine his jamming his index finger into his palm emphatically, and putting both hands on his (own) head at points during the tirade.

CUlater
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CUlater
1 month ago
Reply to  Spaghetti Cat

I’m imagining Jason hearing only the “wah-waw, waw-waw…” sounds that adults make in Peanuts cartoons while planning the great bagel heist in his head…

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
1 month ago

Honestly, I’m sorry Torch because it’s probably not fun being “beef central” but it amuses me greatly that you’re this weird media lightning-rod despite a good deal of your blog output being taillight noir, anthropomorphic trains, and questionable Changli maintenance. And when you do have a hot take, it’s more in the spirit of meddling kid a la Scooby Doo gang than wrestling heel making a cutthroat gesture. So I guess these grumps are more or less “Old Man Jenkins” types, which… sort of tracks. If that makes any sense.

Squirrelmaster
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Squirrelmaster
1 month ago

Honestly, I do wonder if Jason being more than a tad eccentric has led others to preemptively dislike him and build grudges accordingly? I think about all the many oddball people I know who are perfectly harmless and quite enjoyable to interact with that, and many also have people who dislike them simply because they are odd and without ever taking them time to interact with them even once. Personally, I love eccentric oddballs, which is why I know so many and have enjoyed Torch’s musing since the very first one I read all those many years ago. But I also recognize that not everyone is comfortable with people who vocalize their inner strange thoughts and would rather shun them than admit to having the same strange thoughts.

Lori Hille
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Lori Hille
1 month ago
Reply to  Squirrelmaster

That’s why we’re here reading these articles!

Howie
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Howie
1 month ago
Reply to  Squirrelmaster

Its really a speech thing. Would you like if I disliked you due to your post? People can always change the channel.
I do understand your take

Last edited 1 month ago by Howie
It'll buff out
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It'll buff out
1 month ago
Reply to  Squirrelmaster

It’s funny isn’t it…. Looking at those web numbers, it almost seems as if the day has come that people are putting more faith in the opinion of enthusiasts who don’t take themselves too seriously, rather than professional pundits.

By that, I do not mean to imply that the team here are not professional (on the contrary, their work ethic and committment to the quality of the product they are putting out, probably puts the traditional “big guys” to shame). Just because the content here is not arrogant, nor stuffy, does not mean it is not informed and accurate.

Now that that’s out of the way, let’s get back to some taillght fetish shit….

Last edited 1 month ago by It'll buff out
Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
1 month ago
Reply to  Squirrelmaster

Maybe they suffer from reoccurring nightmares thanks to the Lightning McQueen homunculus sketch?

In all seriousness, who knows. There’s a chance that this is a fun/not so fun coincidence where two people who hold some sort of animosity towards Torch appear in the same week happens to be a weird outlier. Or maybe these people are yelling “He’s too damn quirky!” while throwing darts at his portrait.

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