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Jeep Recalls 24,238 Wranglers After Bricking Them With An OTA Update, A Thing That Keeps Happening

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Nearly two weeks ago, Jeep pushed out an over-the-air software update to thousands of models, the sort of thing that usually just fixes bugs and patches recently discovered security vulnerabilities. However, this particular OTA update seemed to introduce a whole new issue to owners of certain Wrangler 4Xe plug-in hybrids. As we reported on Oct. 12:

An Over-The-Air (OTA) update to the infotainment system in some Jeeps appears to be causing certain models to go into a limp mode or otherwise fail to operate. The update appears to have gone out on Friday.

Needless to say, that’s not good. It’s incredibly inconvenient and frustrating when a vehicle you paid good money for stops working, and if your car decides to enter limp mode when you’re already moving at the speed of traffic, you could end up in a dangerous situation.

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As soon as word of Wrangler 4Xe plug-in hybrids either going into limp mode or bricking themselves reached us, we reached out to Stellantis for more information on exactly what went wrong with this over-the-air update, and the automaker now has an answer. More than an answer, actually, because the problematic update has resulted in a recall. Here’s the official statement:

FCA US LLC is recalling an estimated 24,238 U.S.-market vehicles that may have received and installed an over-the-air software update.An internal investigation determined that some vehicles may experience an intermittent communication issue between their telematics box module and hybrid control processor. If this happens, it could result in the propulsion system shutting down without warning.To help prevent a subsequent loss of motive power, an interim corrective action was implemented.The recall is limited to certain model-year 2023–2025 Jeep® Wrangler plug-in hybrid electric SUVs.The Company is unaware of any related accidents or injuries. In accordance with regulation, recall notices will be mailed to all affected customers.FCA urges customers to follow the instructions on their recall notices. Customers with questions or concerns may contact their dealers or call (800) 853-1403.Additional vehicles will be subject to recall in Canada (est. 1,707).

So, between the United States and Canada, this over-the-air update has led to the recall of nearly 26,000 Wrangler 4Xe plug-in hybrids. While a final fix hasn’t been announced yet, an interim solution is available in the form of another software update. The culprit behind the update? Communication issues, which isn’t entirely surprising given how modern cars are all networked. Linking the telematics box with the hybrid control processor allows Wrangler 4Xe plug-in hybrids to support features like app-based remote start and connected navigation mapping based on remaining electric range, and vehicle health reports. Stuff that people actually want. However, this interconnectedness means that what should be minor issues can affect more than one vehicle system.

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It’s worth noting that over-the-air updates that introduce malfunctions are more common than they should be. Two years ago, some Rivian owners reported over-the-air updates rendering their vehicles inoperable, and some Lucid owners were in a similar predicament. Earlier this year, a SiriusXM update caused certain Audi models to enter an infotainment boot loop, which was finally fully fixed when Audi rolled out a software update on the car side. Keep in mind, we’re just talking about successful over-the-air updates here. There are plenty more horror stories of over-the-air updates from various marques failing to complete, rendering cars inoperable.

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In these cases of botched updates, the failure likely isn’t in the fundamental technology itself, it’s possibly somewhere in the culture. See, it’s customary for software teams to hold off on launching a product until testing and development pushes the bug frequency well below a manageable threshold. However, if an update gets sent out before it reaches acceptable reliability for any reason, there are usually either pressures or quality control process failures behind that.

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The initial promise of over-the-air updates were that they’d make your car better over time. The hype failed to mention that sometimes, they might actually make your car worse. Considering how over-the-air updates can affect safety-critical systems, automakers have a responsibility to ensure the software they publish is safe for highway use. When that responsibility isn’t upheld, it’s only natural that consumers may not be happy.

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Vanillasludge
Vanillasludge
8 days ago

What we have here is failure to communicate

Kelly
Kelly
8 days ago

My last wrangler was an ’06 (last of the V8 intercept… I mean last of the straight 6), haven’t seen inside a newer model since then.

I’ll admit that dash photo is appealing for some reason. Actually has some knobs and switches and levers and such.

Still wouldn’t own one, but it’s at least cooler looking than I suspected once you scrape all the stupid ducks off the top of the dash.

The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
8 days ago
Reply to  Kelly

Almost everything you see in that photo is made of Fisher Price-tier plastic.

Thomas Metcalf
Thomas Metcalf
8 days ago

Well, so were the TJ’s and YJ’s and JK’s. Really any Jeep made after the CJ series.

Kelly
Kelly
7 days ago

depending on how you look at it, that could be a good thing or a bad thing. kids toys are usually very robust, designed to be chewed on, thrown about, etc without fragmenting or coming apart. sounds like a good dash setup for an off-road themed vehicle.

The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
5 days ago
Reply to  Kelly

I mean, we’re talking about an almost $50k vehicle here.

NotTooSerious
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NotTooSerious
7 days ago
Reply to  Kelly

I have a 21 JL. I got it specifically because it still has the switches and buttons. And I specifically avoided the 4XE because it was plagued with electrical and software problems. And mine doesn’t have a cellular modem to snitch back to the mothership to report my driving habits and jack my insurance.

Cayde-6
Cayde-6
8 days ago

Damn, bricking it like that, you’d think they added a cruise control function!

(/s)

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
8 days ago

I love how their 3 paragraph rambling is just saying you’re fucked. Stellantis must have hired Kamala’s speech writers

Cars? I've owned a few
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Cars? I've owned a few
8 days ago

You think Donald’s speech writers are better? Just curious. Not trying to start a war. Now that we have a Department of War, instead of Defense.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
8 days ago

To be honest I’m not sure he even has a speech writer. While Kamala’s speeches were like a spirograph, remember those, just spinning around and never getting anywhere Trump’s are more like a monkey driving a car he may put it up on the curb a few times but sooner or later he gets to the destination.

Smaglik
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Smaglik
6 days ago

My mentor used to tell me that the difference between man and lower forms of life is the ability to rationalize….

Drive By Commenter
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Drive By Commenter
8 days ago

It’s a Jeep thing. You wouldn’t understand.

Cody
Cody
8 days ago

Carmageddon is starting!!!

VanGuy
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VanGuy
8 days ago

Additional vehicles will be subject to recall in Canada (est. 1,707).

Weird. From what I can find, Canada was established in 1,867.

Yanky Mate
Yanky Mate
8 days ago
Reply to  VanGuy

this deserves to be COTD

Cayde-6
Cayde-6
8 days ago
Reply to  VanGuy

No, they are just using units of kiloyears, and European decimal notation

Elrond Hubbard
Elrond Hubbard
8 days ago

As a software developer who had many consumer-facing products, updates, patches, etc., we would bang on the intended update for months before declaring it OK to release to the general public. We had a myriad of hardware and software systems to test on as well to mimic real-world conditions, and even then some bug would occasionally be introduced. If we ever pushed any software update out that was known to be not so great, it was 100% due to upper management pressure.

However, bricking one type of vehicle seems like zero testing was ever done. You gotta work hard to f it up to that extent and on that scale.

Farmer Meeple
Farmer Meeple
8 days ago
Reply to  Elrond Hubbard

They probably tested one happy path on one example, drove it across a parking lot and called it good.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
8 days ago
Reply to  Farmer Meeple

Yes modern journalism no editors modern computer cars no beta testing

Cayde-6
Cayde-6
8 days ago
Reply to  Elrond Hubbard

It’s like their software development teams are run by Jalopnik commentors who bemoan computers and fuel injection

Adam EmmKay8 GTI
Adam EmmKay8 GTI
8 days ago
Reply to  Cayde-6

AUtopian was made by fake it till you make it Jeep engineers such as David Tracy
At least he doesn’t get to break Jeeps people bought new anymore, just his own vehicles

Ben
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Ben
8 days ago

WTF dude? This comment is way out of line.

Cars? I've owned a few
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Cars? I've owned a few
8 days ago
Reply to  Elrond Hubbard

I was a field engineer for a software company for 23 years. Our QC folks were pretty good, but our product was so customizable that from time to time, end users would find something that got missed. And we had end-user clients in 15 languages so upgrades from a stable version were always a bit worrying. The server side usually didn’t crap the bed, but the “1000 monkey theorem” could come into play on the client side.

Who Knows
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Who Knows
8 days ago

Seems like they need some digital twin to their digital software, and another digital twin to the vehicle hardware, and use AI to troubleshoot the interactions of the digital twins before any software is rolled out. Increasing the in house software by an order or two of magnitude should solve the problem, right?

FormerTXJeepGuy
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FormerTXJeepGuy
8 days ago

The 4XE is an absolute disaster and Stellantis should be forced to buy them all back.

Tbird
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Tbird
9 days ago

Once the EMD hits, all that will be running are carbs and breaker points.

Vanagan
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Vanagan
9 days ago

This right after the GM saying that they will be moving all their vehicles to only their software makes me continue to not trust the automakers who think they can be software developers.

Tbird
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Tbird
9 days ago

How hard is it to firewall the ECU from the Infotainment system? My desire for older cars gets stronger on the daily. I’m happy to clip my phone onto a gooseneck for nav, etc…

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
9 days ago

ROFL! I am so happy none of my cars have functioning cell modems. Technically the 328! and Mercedes have them, but both are on now obsolete networks that no longer exist. BMW only for “BMW Assist” OnStar-alike nonsense, and I guess Mercedes’ version of that plus technically you could actually browse the web on the Mercedes if you paid for a subscription, but no OTA updates possible on either one..

I deal with computers in my day job, I want my cars to be as analog as is efficiently possible. The shark is so well and truly jumped. As I have said here before “software defined ANYTHING and EVERYTHING” is pretty much buggy junk across the entire computer industry.

Tbird
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Tbird
9 days ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

I’m the lead mtc and reliabilty engineer for my entire company. I wholeheartedly agree.

H4llelujah
H4llelujah
9 days ago

Can anyone smarter than me explain why in the year of our Lord 2025 we have cars able to “suffer loss of motive power”
It is absolute insanity to me that with all our engineers and all our advances in design, we’re not making sure that an engine can and will continue to function unless it runs out of fuel or is turned off.

I had a customer that I sold a 4xe completely lose all forward momentum and throw itself into Park ON THE ROAD. It ended up being a bad wire in the SRS system. Like how is “loose airbag wire can leave the car dead on the road” not engineered out of a vehicle that trades on capability and ruggedness? Make it make sense for me.

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
9 days ago
Reply to  H4llelujah

Stellantis uh….finds a way

H4llelujah
H4llelujah
9 days ago

“Your engineers were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.”

Adam EmmKay8 GTI
Adam EmmKay8 GTI
8 days ago

Once you know that David Tracy worked there it explains everything

Tbird
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Tbird
9 days ago
Reply to  H4llelujah

Relability peaked around 2005 or so. I would not hesitate to daily any 1996 (OBDII) to 2020 or so car.

Last edited 9 days ago by Tbird
FormerTXJeepGuy
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FormerTXJeepGuy
8 days ago
Reply to  H4llelujah

From my own experience: how can a dead 12v battery render a vehicle UNABLE TO TURN OFF?

Tbird
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Tbird
8 days ago

That is… something.

VanGuy
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VanGuy
8 days ago

The one argument I can see is that it recognizes it won’t be able to move again if it’s turned off?

So basically, preventing the kind of situation Mercedes got into with the F-350.

FormerTXJeepGuy
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FormerTXJeepGuy
8 days ago
Reply to  VanGuy

I could potentially agree with that if it alerted me to the battery issue and said drive to dealer. Or if it let me shift out of park. Instead it just had to idle in my driveway until it ran out of gas.

VanGuy
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VanGuy
8 days ago

Oh yeah, I mean, definitely stupid if there was basically no way around it, or proper notification of the problem. Just saying, of the two possible problems, I think, in a jiffy, I’d prefer that to suddenly being stuck in the middle of the road.

Space
Space
8 days ago

How did it not charge itself while idling? Was there an alternator issue?

FormerTXJeepGuy
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FormerTXJeepGuy
8 days ago
Reply to  Space

Nope. I’m not sure if the 4XE has a traditional alternator though.

TurboFarts
TurboFarts
6 days ago

Could have just pulled the fuel pump fuse in about 10 seconds…

Harvey Davidson
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Harvey Davidson
8 days ago

Innovation.

Adam EmmKay8 GTI
Adam EmmKay8 GTI
8 days ago
Reply to  H4llelujah

David Tracy worked for Jeep before they fired him while they made 4xes. Does it make sense now?

H4llelujah
H4llelujah
7 days ago

I’m not totally sure what ya mean by that, but a lot of things fly over my head. But I really want to know if they just overlooked this stuff, or saw that it could be a potential problem and just ignored that. But the reality is if these things can be disabled that easily by a bad wire, they’re going to be practically worthless when they’re 15-20 years old. And I don’t mean figuratively, I mean actually worthless, like buying a 2006 Range Rover today. They’ll be $3000 dollars and full of problems, and turn legions of people away from even considering the brand.

Like dude I am a hillbilly that barely graduated high school, and I can see that writing on the wall. How can they not?

4jim
4jim
9 days ago

I wonder why some and not all of them?

H4llelujah
H4llelujah
8 days ago
Reply to  4jim

Old Chrysler rule: 50 percent of their vehicles must be unfailingly reliable and never have a problem, the other 50 percent must shit themselves every other time they are driven.

FormerTXJeepGuy
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FormerTXJeepGuy
8 days ago
Reply to  H4llelujah

Those 50% that are unfailingly reliable are generally AMC designed, have some sort of straight/slant 6, or both.

H4llelujah
H4llelujah
8 days ago

Nah honestly that’s more of a “nickelback sucks because everybody is supposed to say nickelback sucks” kinda thing. I truly, truly in my heart of hearts feel that FCA Chrysler was GOOD. They had some problems rolling out new stuff like the 9 speed, but by and large in 6 years of selling (2019-2025) the most reliable domestic cars built from 2014 and up was FCA. And I mean BY FAR. That all changed frankly when the 2021 grand Cherokee, hornet, and wagoneers came on the scene.

FormerTXJeepGuy
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FormerTXJeepGuy
8 days ago
Reply to  H4llelujah

I don’t disagree, the 3.6/ZF8 combo was pretty solid. I generally would take any rental car that had that on the aisle (300, Grand Cherokee, Charger, Challenger) because I knew I’d at least enjoy driving it moreso than the other options. Not sure how the long term reliability will be on them though.

H4llelujah
H4llelujah
8 days ago

Change the oil at 5k miles, use good oil, every once in a while run it all the way to redline. Excluding a genuine manufacturer defect, the 3.6 is a 300,000 mile engine. The only ones I ever saw problems with (lifters, cams, etc) are ones that go 7500 miles between wal mart oil changes, do nothing but idle or putt around, and thus never engage the vvt or secondary oil pump. It’s like buying a two stroke and never hitting the powerband. It’s gonna foul up and turn to shit fast.

Sofonda Wagons
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Sofonda Wagons
9 days ago

Rhymes with ducked???? Is it possible for a headliner to also be COTD? Clever!

Turbotictac
Turbotictac
9 days ago

Ah, I understand. They are stucked

FndrStrat06
FndrStrat06
9 days ago
Reply to  Turbotictac

They’re definitely trucked! Get it, because they’re trucks!

American Locomotive
American Locomotive
9 days ago

IMO, the whole software/hardware architecture of the vehicle is horrifically flawed if the PCM being unable to communicate with the telematics/infotainment unit renders the car useless.

Look back at the early 90s Ford EEC-IV computer system. If the MAF/MAP sensor fails, you can simply unplug them and the computer will fall back to simple Alpha-N fueling based on the TPS and still run. You can unplug the coolant temperature sensor, and it will just result in very hard cold starts. Shoot, you can unplug the TPS with a failed MAF/MAP, and the computer will fall back even further to a simple fueling algorithm based on RPM – just enough to get you off the road, hopefully.

Even more than THAT, Ford put in a hardware fail-safe, where if the processor on the computer failed to boot for whatever reason (corrupt firmware, whatever), the computer had some circuitry that would just fire the injectors a fixed amount every pulse from the crankhaft position sensor as a last-ditch effort to keep the vehicle moving.

But no one seems to be engineering to that level anymore. If some tiny glitch happens or seemingly unimportant sensor fails, the whole vehicle is just crippled. It’s ridiculous.

Howie
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Howie
9 days ago

Owners are the testers. Another Autopian had a discourse about this. No one really tests properly anymore. Move fast! Oops, things are broken. Doesn’t affect my life!

Bizness Comma Nunya
Bizness Comma Nunya
9 days ago

Ah yes, good old EEC-IV (pronounced eeeek 4 haha). They were pretty good systems for the time. Supported (then modern) things like DIS ignition, variable intake manifold tracts, a supercharged + DIS application.

Before the days of CAN bus networks, I remember a 94/95 taurus wagon having gauges going crazy in the dash. Heard some weird noise under the hood, smacked that body module (or whatever it was called then) and the gauges worked… pretty easy diag.

Last edited 9 days ago by Bizness Comma Nunya
Tbird
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Tbird
8 days ago

I still have an EECIV code reader in my diagnostic box. One reason I’m considering buying the Bricknose.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
9 days ago

CANbus is fundamentally flawed in general. There really need to be SO MANY cars can have all kinds of weird shit happen if ONE module fails or starts putting garbage on the bus, because there is very little redundancy. They have gotten better over time, but most are still terribly architected. And then the actual components are produced as cheaply as possible, then put in the incredibly harsh environment that is a car for a couple decades of abuse.

When it works, it’s great, and reduces the wiring harness complexity greatly. But when something goes sideways, a lot less fun than just getting out the old multi-meter and tracing some wires. And today everything is even MORE interconnected in the car, suck that a fubar taillight module can make the thing not run right (legions of Ford pickup trucks). And of course, the fact that the taillight has a brain in it means that the taillight assembly can be a couple of grand to replace WHEN it gets broken, fills up with water, etc.

As I keep saying, shark well and truly jumped.

FormerTXJeepGuy
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FormerTXJeepGuy
8 days ago

yes, the 4XE is horrifically flawed

Howie
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Howie
9 days ago

Piss poor file management I think. Modify the wrong firmware? I work in Audio/Visual and I see this with bad control programmers

FastBlackB5
FastBlackB5
9 days ago

This happened to my brother and I on a trip out of state that Saturday. His Jeep shut off on the highway several times. Dealer had no ideas and all the fault codes made no sense. We drove 4 hours home that night with no AC, no Radio, and all the power systems off.

It solidified my choice to never own a car with over the air updates, and to never buy a car newer than my 2009.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
9 days ago
Reply to  FastBlackB5

I’m right there with you. My 2006ish platform pair of BMWs are about perfect. Enough tech, but not too much. My slightly newer 2009-platform Mercedes definitely strays over the line a bit, though at least mine is relatively pauper spec so less to break.

In hindsight I wish I had tracked down a minty ’80s Mercedes wagon though.

Last edited 9 days ago by Kevin Rhodes
Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
9 days ago

The fact that there are still people buying 4Xe products at all is mind blowing to me

FastBlackB5
FastBlackB5
9 days ago

the deals they had on these cars that had been sitting for around a year on lots was too good for a lot of people to pass up. Now we know why.

Data
Data
9 days ago

So, we know where some former CrowdStrike developers ended up…

Bizness Comma Nunya
Bizness Comma Nunya
9 days ago
Reply to  Data

hahaha ok, that’s a good one. COTD

Johnny Ohio
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Johnny Ohio
8 days ago
Reply to  Data

I got this reference.

Eggsalad
Eggsalad
9 days ago

I’m pretty ignorant about such things, but I don’t think anyone should update anything right before businesses close for the weekend.

JD
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JD
9 days ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

Read only Fridays are are real thing in IT.

Howie
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Howie
9 days ago
Reply to  JD

No firmware Fridays in audio visual.

Andreas8088
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Andreas8088
8 days ago
Reply to  JD

Oh my yes. NEVER on a Friday.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
9 days ago

At least Jeep is consistent in their continued failures….

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