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Not Hiring Movers Was A Mistake

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“Hiring movers was the best money I’ve ever spent,” fellow domesticated dads told me for weeks as I planned to move my wife, son, cats, cars, and junk across town by myself. “Don’t bother, just spend the money!” they exclaimed. My wife, too, suggested we forego the hassle and just rip off the bandaid. But nobody should underestimate just how cheap of a man I am, and just how much punishment I’ll put myself through to save a buck. It’s in my blood.

Quite a few of my traits are a byproduct of having grown up on or near military bases in a household of six boys, an army dad, and a German stay-at-home mom. Two of the most enduring of those traits are 1. My frugality and 2. My refusal to ever complain.

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The second one is actually more than just a “refusal to ever complain,” it’s a sense of pride when I’m able to endure a physical hardship. I enjoy a challenge just for the sake of a challenge, even if — perhaps especially if — it really, really sucks. I don’t know if this is just me trying to make up for the fact that I’m a blogger and not an army soldier like my dad and many of my childhood friends, or if it’s just a byproduct of having grown up around other military kids and brothers who all challenged one another to be tough. It’s also likely that any thoughts I have about complaining are quickly quenched by the context of actual hardships that many of the military families that I grew up around faced.

I won’t psychoanalyze myself further, but you get the idea: I like doing difficult things, even if they’re sometimes pointless. For example, I look back fondly at the time I slept in an ice-cold diesel manual minivan and bathed in the Baltic Sea. I didn’t love getting trenchfoot while living out of a Land Cruiser and fixing a rusty, mouse-infested Willys FC-170, but you can’t tell me that wasn’t awesome. The time I drove 1,000 miles in a rusted-out 1948 Willys before breaking down in the middle of nowhere, Kansas was a swell time. All the times I had to weld on my back in the snow in freezing weather to fix giant rust holes in my Jeep’s unibody-rails — they were extremely cool. Horrible, but cool.

And so, maybe, as I bask in the sunny rays of California, and blog on my MacBook, I saw this move  — which I would have to do solo, as my wife is looking after baby-Delmar and my local friend-group is, uh, diminutive — as just another tiny chapter in my never ending quest to push myself, even a tiny bit. It’s not efficient, and it’s going to suck a little, but that’s the point.

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Combine my suck-it-up-itude with my disdain for paying people to do things I can do myself, and there was no other option. Moving all of my wife’s and my stuff would have probably cost $1200, and I can rent a U-Haul trailer for $30 a day. I didn’t go for any of the box-trucks, because even though they’re bigger and only cost $30 or so a day, U-Haul charges a per-mile fee, and you know I’m not payin’ that, especially since I recently(ish) purchased a 1989 Chevy K1500 with a 350 small-block V8 under the hood.

And not only that, while researching which fluid to put in my rear diff (forums have not come to a consensus to know exactly which type is correct; it’s really strange), I learned that my K1500 isn’t just any ordinary K1500. This thing was built to tow. Check out the axle in the rear — it’s a 14-bolt semi-float axle, an absolute monster:

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It’s a five-speed, 350 V8, 14-bolt K1500, and the rear trailer hitch has actually been welded to the frame!:

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Clearly, I’m well equipped to move all of our stuff over a weekend for a paltry 60 bucks plus insurance and tax and gas. That’s a savings of over $1,400! Who could turn that down? Not I. And so I somehow convinced my wife this was the avenue we were going down, and let me tell you folks: We definitely put our marriage through the equivalent of SAE J2807. And what’s worse is, I’ve run the numbers, and honestly: This really didn’t save us that much cash.

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First things first: What we were dealing with was a 1,500 square foot two-bedroom Townhouse occupied by two adults with 70 years worth of combined junk. The two cats have also accumulated some things in the past two years in the form of toys and treats, while baby-Delmar has accumulated a bunch of baby stuff that has seemingly come from nowhere in insane volumes. What the hell is a keekaroo? Do we really need a dedicated diaper bin? How did we get so many clothes; does he need all this?

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Anyway, complicating things is the fact that my baby boy is six weeks old, and as such is extremely demanding. Actually, if you Google it, you’ll see that six to eight weeks is “peak fussiness” for babies, and I won’t lie: It’s a nightmare.

For those of you who haven’t procreated, I think the best analogy I can give you is a slipping transmission. Sometimes, if the temperature outside is just right, and you’re on just the right stretch of road, maybe it won’t slip and you’ll cruise along smoothly. Maybe you can shove a bottle of Lucas Transmission Fix down your transmission’s dipstick hole, maybe you can pacify it by jammimg the vehicle into the right gear, maybe if you plumb in an external cooler and keep from leaning too hard on the gas you’ll get down the road without an issue.

But in the end you’re screwed. Utterly, thoroughly screwed. Because your stopgap fixes — the temperature optimization, the bottle, the gear shift lever-pacifier, the dance you do with your right pedal — they’re not going save you from what happens at the worst time: A total meltdown. And I’m talkin’: Stuck in traffic in 100 degree weather, going uphill, and your vehicle is just going apeshit, the motor is screaming, it’s shuttering like mad, there’s all sorts of fluid just pouring all over the place for some reason, and you’re just praying, praying to god that somehow your child will calm the ef down because it’s 3AM and you’re so tired you can’t even continue with this transmission analogy.

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So anyway, back to this move. Packing was rough, as baby-Delmar required my wife Elise’s attention quite often, meaning I had to basically pack an entire household alone, save for certain larger, more cumbersome items (but not heavy ones, as she can’t lift much at the moment). Speaking of, I cannot believe how horrible it is to move a king size mattress. I mean horrible. I wasn’t expecting it to be that hard; after all, I’ve successfully moved 500+ pound engines around the country without any issue — check it out:

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But a mattress, while lighter than an engine, is much, much worse to transport and for one reason: It’s got basically zero structural rigidity. It is a seven-foot-tall, six-foot-wide 180 pound wet noodle, and trying to get it down stairs out into the U-Haul trailer was impossible. It couldn’t be done. I started to look into hiring an extra set of hands, buying a special bag with handles, or just leaving the mattress for future-me to deal with next week.

But then I came up with this little contraption:

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Basically, I used pieces of the bedframe, along with some ratchet straps, to create a rib right down the center of the mattress to give it some rigidity. This would allow me to stand it upright on some dollies I had purchased, and then — with Elise’s help — wheel the behemoth to my dirt-cheap trailer.

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The heaviest thing I had to move was this dresser, which must be made of solid oak, because it weighs roughly 300 pounds:

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I personally have never bought furniture of such high quality, andI have no desire to after having to move that whole dresser down the stairs by myself (I slid it upside down along a moving blanket), and then rolling it to the truck and lifting it up into the bed, one side at a time:

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But it wasn’t just moving heavy things that made this relocation such a pain, it was the boxing of all of our stuff, it was the disassembly of all the furniture, and it was the procurement of all the ancillary moving things, many of which I didn’t initially realize I needed. It all adds up.

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The trailer came in at $82 for the two days, the four dollies I had to buy to move the furniture were $130, the moving blankets added up to $40, the gas for the three trips in our two vehicles (assuming 8 MPG in the truck and 20 in her RX350 and current $5/gallon gas price) got us to about $180, the tape was probably $20, the stuff I broke (some glasses — see below) was maybe another $50, and the minor damage I did to the Townhouse trying to drag huge things by myself was maybe $100 or $200. Add that all up and I ended up at about $600 to $700. And it would have been more if I had to buy new boxes (Elise sourced those for free).

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That means I saved us a paltry $600 doing this move alone (I can sell some things to increase that figure, to be sure). And yes, I — a cheapo — realize that $600 is nothing to scoff at, but realize that I traded probably 24 hours for $600. That’s $25 an hour, and it would have been a lot less than $25 I had hurt myself or done more damage to the house or our stuff. And then there’s the priceless stuff like attention I could have given my child during that time or the avoidance of Elise’s wrath for me having wasted all that time by being cheap, and yeah, on paper — because I’m lucky enough to have the means — this definitely was the wrong move.

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And yet, I kind of enjoyed it, not just because of the exercise and the problem solving and the wrenching, but because it meant I could put my new K1500 to work, and it was phenomenal. That 350 cubic-inch V8 makes gobs of torque, and the 3.73 gearing in those axles worked superbly with the manual transmission to haul that 3,500 pound trailer right up the steep, hot Sepulveda Pass:

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I averaged about 55 mph most of the way, and the truck felt stable and reasonably responsive. Downshifting assisted the brakes in slowing the truck down, and gave me enough torque to pull up steep grades. The ride was great, and even though my extended-cab truck only has a 6.5-foot bed, I actually don’t mind giving up some bed length for extra space in the cab to put items I don’t want to get dusty on the freeway.

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This GMT400 truck has blown me away ever since I bought it for $4,900. It’s quiet, smooth, powerful, and extremely capable, plus it doesn’t have a spec of rust on it, and it’s so anonymous and ubiquitous that I can use it as a genuine beater without worry about having to replace some unobtainium part.

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What a great machine — a true joy that made all these aches in my arms and back disappear from my mind as I smiled from ear to ear while rowing through those five gears. All that blabbering at the beginning of this article about me liking a challenge was true, but this right here — seeing this old truck do its thing — that was the real point of all this. And it was absolutely worth it.

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Musicman27
Musicman27
18 hours ago

Sometimes doing crap the long, hard, or roundabout way, just to see something do what its supposed to do, is awesome.

KYFire
KYFire
17 hours ago
Reply to  David Tracy

I agree, sometimes a little “doing it the hard way” can bring satisfaction but now that have done it, would you do it again?

R53forfun
R53forfun
13 hours ago
Reply to  David Tracy

Gotta work on that :). Let me ask you again …

Last edited 13 hours ago by R53forfun
Harvey Spork
Harvey Spork
8 hours ago
Reply to  David Tracy

Even after saying this?

> And then there’s the priceless stuff like attention I could have given my child during that time or the avoidance of Elise’s wrath for me having wasted all that time by being cheap

That’s single-guy mindset. Other people need/want your attention now. That’s something only you can provide. The moving can be done by other people.

Gubbin
Gubbin
17 hours ago
Reply to  Musicman27

I will say that it looked like a whole lot of extra fuss that could’ve been avoided with at least one extra pair of hands.

4jim
4jim
18 hours ago

My wife and I have moved about 5 times and not in the last 25 years but I move my kid at least once a year and It hurts at this age.

Sometimes it is ok to pay someone else to do something they are better at than you are. There are advantages to being older and one of them is paying people to do things you do not want to do anymore.

I value my time at $25+/hour and if I can pay someone to do something “cheaper” than I can do it paying myself, out come the “checkbook”

I know there are loads of DIYer that do not value their labor in $$ or consider their labor as worthless. I am not one of them.

Good luck unpacking!

Skurdnin
Skurdnin
18 hours ago

Wait what did the issue the truck end up being? I missed the resolution of that

Camp Fire
Camp Fire
18 hours ago
Reply to  David Tracy

Please do. Going from “threw a rod” to “failed ignition switch” is quite the switch-up!

Dave's_Not_Here
Dave's_Not_Here
17 hours ago
Reply to  Camp Fire

Seconded

79 Burb-man
79 Burb-man
17 hours ago

Thirded?

Spikersaurusrex
Spikersaurusrex
14 hours ago
Reply to  79 Burb-man

Fourthed!

Steve's House of Cars
Steve's House of Cars
10 hours ago

Fifthed!

JC 06Z33
JC 06Z33
18 hours ago

Regarding the dresser: particle board is really heavy, actually. At least, it was back when I worked at a furniture store 20 years ago in high school. We’d always dread delivering the cheap stuff because it weighed more than real wood.

William Sheldon
William Sheldon
18 hours ago

I moved my family from Colorado to New York, and that took giving away ~80% of my tools (woodworker, metal worker, car fixer-upperer, farm stuffs, geologist, oof too much stuff/ tools/ materials), because if its heavy and its widely available in NY, i didnt want to tax my Volvo XC90 SUV 5k lb towing limit unnecessarily, and i dont mind giving good tools to good people. Many have graciously done that for me over the years.

Bought an old 2 horse trailer, restored the rusty frame, added new wheels, tires, wiring, lights, emergency braking systems, and all new brake parts. $4k to buy ‘n’ fix instead of $6k to just buy a crappy one with old running gear. Plus trailer serves as goat home whilst we find a house!

Then did one trip with the horse trailer just full of tools at GCWR max. Blew out the collar sleeve to the angle gear, but yanked the angle gear out and carried on with just FWD (still like that over 75k miles later lol). Back hauled to CO empty then hauled our goats and their effects east w/ the horse trailer.

Our beloved V70 T5M was full to the gills, including a hilariously overloaded utility trailer. The rest of our house stuff (2 adults, 2 kids, 1500 sq ft house with tons of furniture and outsdoorsy stuff) went into 2 pack rat containers. We even weighed eveything on a bath scale as it came into the container to make sure we didnt go overweight (a VERY good idea and was easy).

The containers were stored in a climate controlled bldg for a couple months while we lived at our family camp in Cooperstown. Retrieved the containers when we bought a house. Yeeha. It was quite expensive overall, but provided us with TONS of leeway/options/mobility/storage, and i only had to touch our stuff twice, this is key!.

And this isnt even as crazy as when i puchased an old 5 window GMC bus to move my family west and lived out of it while i restored flood ravaged rivers until my family joined me a few months later. What an adventure moving can be!

Last edited 18 hours ago by William Sheldon
Mgb2
Mgb2
18 hours ago

Having to deal with stairs makes it all terrible. Our last move was only about a mile away and we were going to do a lot of improvements to the old house before putting it on the market, so we didn’t any real logistical crunches. We moved plenty of stuff ourselves, but were wise enough to pay for movers for the heavy stuff.

You probably have a company like Two Men And A Truck in your area, and they will gladly come in to handle only the big stuff.

ImissmyoldScout
ImissmyoldScout
18 hours ago

I have moved quite a few times in my life and I’m sick of it. I have one move left in me, when my wife and I retire and move to Hawaii.

Commercial Cook
Commercial Cook
18 hours ago

I hear you DT. I have a very prominent squeak coming from my rear suspension on my E39…. Initially I was going to take it to the shop and have them find the source, replace it, do alignment, you know: all the stuff a normal person would do, right?

Not me…. I started with trying to lubricate it rear suspension, tried siggling and prying all the arms and joints to find it, no luck. still squeaks.

Next weekend, I tried to check my upper strut mounts (seat goes out and parcel shelf…), drop come oil in them, confirm they look new, put it back together…. Still squeaks…

Next weekend, I got the upper front and rear upper control arms (yes, there are 2 upper control arms with ball joints), spent some time sweating on some old bolts, got very excited to find out that the front upper arms’ ball joints were shot, hoping that was a culprit. Put everything back together AND….still squeaks.

Now I am waiting for the sway bar links and bushings to come in and it will be my next weekend….

total hours spent: a lot
total number of times wheels were off and car got jacked….4 so far….

This would have been done in a day at the shop….maybe with less parts to replace….

but yet, I am living a pain….

I just want to feel that satisfaction when I do get to the culprit….

I am FOR SURE not calling a shop, at this point on principle…
it is a the matter of pride…

RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
11 hours ago

“Well, let me tell you what I see. I see pride! I see power! I see a bad-ass mother who don’t take no crap off of nobody!”

Tbird
Tbird
18 hours ago

We need a face off – David’s GMT 400 vs Jason’s Bullnose Ford.

William Sheldon
William Sheldon
18 hours ago
Reply to  Tbird

dont the bullnose trucks end at ’86? asking for a friend…

William Sheldon
William Sheldon
18 hours ago
Reply to  David Tracy

Ha! i shall dub my grampa’s old ’86 Eff Won Fitty with the 300 (and a swapped mazda 5 speed) the bricknose!
Will blend in perfectly with my swedish bricks! I am sensing a theme here…

Tbird
Tbird
18 hours ago

Yes, my error. The OBS Ford is Bullnose, Bricknose, Aeronose respectively. Ford 300 vs Chevy small block.

William Sheldon
William Sheldon
17 hours ago
Reply to  Tbird

That’d be a fun comparo of two great old work trucks. Now to determine what the hilarious competitions will be.

Slalom while loaded with gravel?
Skidpad g’s while towing?
Towing 0-60-0 at Gross Combined Weight Rating?
Bench seat midday siesta napping comfort?
All very important metrics for us Autopians to consider as we plunge the depths of the used truck market.

Camp Fire
Camp Fire
16 hours ago

Do it!

This is the content we crave!

Nlpnt
Nlpnt
10 hours ago

Make use of both David and Jason’s sons, but have them swap boys and trucks at the same time. Can The Marshal’s unsplit bench seat accomodate Delmar’s rear-facing carseat with the bench far enough forward for Jason to reach the pedals? Can David teach Otto to drive stick in a Holy Grail without cracking?

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
18 hours ago

Stillnotatony here! Certified cheap bastard when it comes to moving.

My craziest move was about 28 years ago. The last day of my job, a Friday, I went to the Penske truck rental and used the company discount to rent the biggest box truck they had.

I drove it to our house and my wife and I loaded it with all our worldly belongings. The next morning, Saturday, we finished loading, and I climbed into the cab. I left Cedar Rapids, IA before lunch and drove to Indianapolis, where I slept in the cab of the truck.

Got up early Sunday morning and drove to Savannah, GA. Again, I slept in the cab of the truck in the parking lot of the leasing office of the apartment complex we were moving to.

Monday morning, as soon as the office opened, I signed the lease, drove over to our new place, and unloaded everything except the sleeper sofa by myself. Our new upstairs neighbor helped with the sofa. I took a shower and a 2 hour nap. Then I got back into the truck and drove to Cincinnati.

Slept in the truck Monday night. Got up Tuesday morning and drove back to Cedar Rapids where I turned in the truck before 5, saving myself another day of rental. Weirdly, it was cheaper to drive the truck back to Iowa than it would have been to rent a tow dolly for my car and make a one-way trip.

Then my wife and I and our kid made the same trip again about a week later in our cars. We splurged and rented hotel rooms on the trip, because THEY’RE SOFT!!!

Clark B
Clark B
18 hours ago

When I moved during college and shortly after, it was a DIY affair where my (now) ex and I bribed people with pizza, booze, and weed. My last move my fiancee and I hired a couple guys to help us and it was so worth it, though we still did much of the work ourselves.

Our next move will be coming up in the next two years or so, and we intend it to be our last (we’re in our 30s but want to buy some land and have our forever home there). I don’t mind packing and transporting the fragile stuff myself, but I want movers to handle everything else. I’ve moved six times since 2012, and now I can finally afford to pay someone to do the hard shit for me.

Angry Bob
Angry Bob
18 hours ago

Last time I had a big move, I’d been working with a landscaper to get a house ready to sell, and I called him and asked if he’d like the moving job. So I rented a box truck and a team of landscapers showed up and did all the work for almost half off what a moving company quoted.

You need a diaper genie. There are aftermarket bag refills that cost substantially less than the OEM bags and work just as well. If Elise (NHRN) is nursing, be aware that diapers get 10,000x worse when you move on to solid foods or formula.

Last edited 18 hours ago by Angry Bob
StillNotATony
StillNotATony
18 hours ago
Reply to  Angry Bob

DO NOT GET A DIAPER GENIE!!! They are a cruel joke played on new parents!! The first time you have to dispose of the sausage of horror, you will understand.

And there is no containing the stench of baby diapers. Just get a small trash can to put next to the changing table, and empty it frequently. Like, every time you put a dirty diaper in it.

Lockleaf
Lockleaf
17 hours ago
Reply to  David Tracy

I hate daiper genies. We just put daipers in a plastic grocery bag and tied it shut, then took that out to the trash. We used the genie for a week before determining it was the worst invention on earth and a trip outside was WAY better.

Camp Fire
Camp Fire
18 hours ago
Reply to  David Tracy

YMMV. I didn’t think it was much worse. And diaper changes get less frequent, so the overall headache decreases over time.

But the first rule of parenting is that your kid(s) will be different than mine were. YMMV…

Last edited 18 hours ago by Camp Fire
Max Johnson
Max Johnson
18 hours ago
Reply to  David Tracy

wait until your first up-the-back blowout

And in lieu of a Genie – a small can with a securable lid works well enough. The lid is key.

Angry Bob
Angry Bob
17 hours ago
Reply to  David Tracy

That sweet smelling stringy orange newborn poo is just there to give you a false sense of security. It’s all gonna change. And as Max Johnson pointed out, oh the up the back blowout. You’ll wonder how such a tiny human can contain so much poo.

But none of that compares to the horrors of potty training.

If you want a good laugh, search YouTube for “Dadholes”. It’s a series of videos of three Dads sitting on a park bench watching their kids and talking about fatherhood. It’s comedy gold.

Last edited 17 hours ago by Angry Bob
79 Burb-man
79 Burb-man
17 hours ago
Reply to  Angry Bob

So many times I remember looking at the blowout carnage and asking myself over and over, how is it possible this much came out of a kid that small?

Matt Sexton
Matt Sexton
1 hour ago
Reply to  Angry Bob

Dave Barry wrote many years ago that the best way to potty train your child is to leave them with someone else, then go to Europe for like a month, and return to your potty trained child. Or something to that effect.

A. Barth
A. Barth
18 hours ago

Dang – that really is a towing machine! Using exactly the right tool for the job really is immensely satisfying.

When we moved a family member out of his house, I went through a similar “Oh, I’m GONNA do this” with the difficult stuff. The day ended with me dragging a homemade machine shop cart – made of what appeared to be 1/4″ steel plate – up the narrow basement stairs. We had already brought three rolling tool cabinets upstairs so I figured the cart would be a one-person job. It wasn’t, but by golly I was not going to ask for help.

The process involved dragging the cart with one arm, sliding the other hand up to grip the banister, and then pulling both arms toward my torso. It was fine (?!?) until I had to stop to rest halfway up the stairs, just holding everything in place. I got that @#$%^& thing up the stairs, out of the house and *down* the front stairs, cursing like a sailor the whole way. After rolling it up the ramp into the U-haul, I felt moderately successful and decided to sit down for a minute and allow the feeling to return to my arms and legs.

Dr.Xyster
Dr.Xyster
18 hours ago

We’re moving this weekend. Already have 95% of everything boxed up, and living quite spartan. Come Saturday, I get the U-Haul. We load all the big stuff up in it and fill the gaps with whatever else can fit. Everything else, especially the fragiles and electronics, will be wrapped up and transported in my Regal TourX wagon.

Guessing it will be one trip in the U-Haul, and maybe 2 or 3 with our two cars.

This will be move number 11 in my lifetime. Have it down to a science at this point.

GenericWhiteVan
GenericWhiteVan
18 hours ago

D.T. bought a truck and used it to do ‘truck’ things.

Outstanding.

You don’t see that much these days.

Spikersaurusrex
Spikersaurusrex
13 hours ago

Hey, I hauled an 8 ft 2×4 yesterday. 🙂

TheFanciestCat
TheFanciestCat
18 hours ago

I moved fairly locally and for $300+tip (9 years ago) and the advanced work of boxing everything up, three guys with a box truck showed up and had us moved with all the big stuff in place and the boxes in the right rooms in about 4 hours. I owe no favors. Nothing was broken.

Whatever the minimum amount of stress is that you feel when you move, I hit that level.

3WiperB
3WiperB
18 hours ago

Now you know… Never to move again.

But yeah, I moved myself last time, but I at least hired movers for all the big bulky stuff. I just bought like 3 hours of their time and that was enough for all the big stuff to be loaded and then unloaded. That saved a lot of cost as well as my back.

Also, when I got my new dryer delivered, I asked the guys if they wanted to make some quick cash, and they each happily took $20 to carry my front load washer upstairs after the dryer. This was both the best $40 I’ve ever spent and they were happy to make $20 each for 5 minutes of work.

Dug Deep
Dug Deep
18 hours ago

If I have to move again I think I’m just getting new stuff.

IanGTCS
IanGTCS
18 hours ago

Last two times I hired movers. Worth every penny, and while I’m not as cheap as David I’m pretty close.

Also I would have been boned had we not hired movers for the last one. After finalizing the purchase of our house my wife was put on bedrest because her water broke at 21 weeks. Our son was born at 28 weeks just 2 days before we moved. It would have been even worse if I’d been trying to move our house of stuff that day too.

Dan1101
Dan1101
18 hours ago

Moving is always a pain, and if you saved $600 and nobody got hurt I think you did ok.

What ever happened to the truck being weird, did you find the cause?

Ash78
Ash78
18 hours ago

When my wife and I first got married almost 21 years ago, I had already bought the house, and she was about to move in. I insisted I could handle it all with a buddy and a U-haul (it wasn’t much, just a 2BR apartment, a few beds, a couple couches). But she insisted on paying movers for it, and it was like $500 — an astronomical amount at the time.

I told her that because it was her choice, it would have to come out of her bank account. She still holds that over my head for being a jerk, but I still secretly think it was okay. Little did I know she was like $20k in credit debt. The funny thing about people who are $20k in credit card debt is that they usually don’t even know it. Because if they had that level of oversight, they wouldn’t be $20k in debt. And it was like $500-$1,000 per card, so really hard to keep track of.

Do I hold that over her head? No, I do not. Yay, marriage!

Eggsalad
Eggsalad
18 hours ago

My last move was a split between me and movers. I also had the luxury of still having ~1 month left on my lease when I signed the papers on my condo.

I boxed and moved 85% of my belongings myself, at 1-2 Prius loads per day over the course of a couple weeks. The final day of the move, I paid movers to move (mostly) furniture. That cost me $250 (including tips) which was worth every penny.

My next move will be in a hearse 🙂

Paul B
Paul B
18 hours ago

This is one of many of those being a dad lessons you learn. Welcome to the club.

Matt Sexton
Matt Sexton
18 hours ago

I’ve been lucky enough to have only moved twice, but I can tell you this: whatever day you decide to move will be the hottest day on that date on record.

Spikersaurusrex
Spikersaurusrex
13 hours ago
Reply to  Matt Sexton

Or it will snow. Sometimes heavy rain if you live in the desert.

Orion Pax
Orion Pax
18 hours ago

Can confirm—pay the movers. Did a move 2 states over. If we ever do anything like that again, it’s worth having someone else do it.

Tbird
Tbird
18 hours ago
Reply to  Orion Pax

We moved over a month, the new house was 10 minutes from my job. I took an SUV load of boxes, bins, etc daily. When it came to the final move out and furniture – we called the pros.

Ash78
Ash78
18 hours ago

Protip: pack and move all the small, valuable, and/or fragile stuff yourself.

Let the movers walk into the house to see nothing but your heaviest and bulkiest furniture, ensuring the maximum work for the least hourly pay. Then just tip them well.

Win-win! And it was such a success, I haven’t moved in 14 years. Oh, it sucks so much. When I was a kid, our average home was 2.5 years (longest was 6 years I think).

NewBalanceExtraWide
NewBalanceExtraWide
18 hours ago
Reply to  Ash78

That’s my approach. And I still curse myself when the movers take all the ugly stuff and easily take care of it in half an hour after I’ve spent three days with all the little stuff that I thought would save so much time.

Tbird
Tbird
18 hours ago
Reply to  Ash78

The pros only hauled and moved our furniture (or anything else I didn’t want to lift).

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