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Oh How The Mighty Had Fallen: 1977 AMC AMX vs 1981 Dodge Challenger

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Good morning! This week we’ve been looking at cars that were the same price, but had nothing else in common, but today we’re not going to do that. I found two cars that are wildly different in price, but share a common theme: both are later, worse versions of famous muscle cars.

Yesterday’s coupes were more polarizing than I thought they’d be. Quite a few of you had some very strong opinions about each car, stronger than I expected, especially considering how lukewarm my feelings are about both of them. I didn’t actually know it was possible to have strong opinions about a final-generation Celica or Riviera. In the end, there were nearly twice as many fans of the Riviera, resulting in a comfortable win for a comfortable car.

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The Buick is absolutely my choice as well, and unlike some of you, I don’t feel guilty about choosing the smooth-riding car at all. Harsh, modified sports cars are a young man’s game, and that’s not me any more, and I’m fine with it. Oh, and I suspect the reason the Buick’s air conditioning hasn’t been fixed is that the seller is just a flipper; it’s in exactly the condition they got it, and they’re not going to put any work into it.

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The muscle car, as many fans knew and loved it, pretty much died after 1973. There were a lot of reasons: gas shortages and high prices following the 1973 embargo didn’t help, nor did impending safety and emissions standards. Also, word had gotten out about the frequency with which young drivers were ending up in ditches and wrapped around telephone poles in such cars, and insurance rates were through the roof.

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But automakers, bless their hearts, weren’t ready for the party to end, so they just did the best they could with what they had. The results were less than inspiring. The most infamous of these post-muscle cars, of course, is the Ford Mustang II, but it was far from the only offender, and probably not even the worst. Let’s take a look at two other muscle-in-name-only cars from the era, from AMC and Dodge.

1977 AMC Hornet AMX – $4,200

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Engine/drivetrain: 258 cubic inch OHV inline 6, four-speed manual, RWD

Location: Wadsworth, OH

Odometer reading: unknown

Operational status: Runs and drives well

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The original AMX, produced for only a couple of years, was the product of AMC’s “make it cooler by making it shorter” philosophy of the late 60s and early 70s (see also: Gremlin). It was based on the Javelin, AMC’s answer to the Mustang and Camaro, but with a foot of length taken out of the middle, which also eliminated the back seat. AMC then shoved its biggest V8 into the stubby little car, and created one of the coolest muscle cars ever. This is not that car. This is a one-year-only revival of the AMX name, based on the Hornet hatchback, festooned with louvers and spoilers to make up for its lack of anything resembling power.

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The AMX was available with either a 258 straight six or a 304 V8, but you couldn’t get a manual transmission with the V8. This one has a manual, which I’m not sure does all that much to help its performance, but at least it makes you feel like you’re helping out. This engine may not be powerful, but it is stout, and the seller says this one runs well. They were told the engine was rebuilt before they got it, and they’ve kept the juices flowing by driving it every once in a while.

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It’s a bit grubby inside, but not actually in bad shape. It needs to be cleaned out; the footwells and trunk have become catch-alls for the sort of detritus that project cars attract, like that roll of electrical tape on the floor. But the dash and door panels look good. The driver’s seat has a couple of seams coming undone, but considering the car’s age and the era in which it was built, there’s nothing to complain about in here.

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Outside, things aren’t as rosy. The paint is faded, and there are some rust bubbles coming through here and there. The bottom corners of the rear quarter panels show some amateurish rust repair that was painted over. I shudder to think what it looks like under those rocker panel extensions. And someone has gone a bit overboard with those Pep Boys stick-on chrome letters, but those should come off easily enough.

1981 Dodge Challenger – $9,000

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Engine/drivetrain: 2.6 liter OHC inline 4, three-speed automatic, RWD

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Location: Hampton, TN

Odometer reading: 75,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

The Dodge Challenger as we know it today went out of production only a couple of years ago, with a series of fire-breathing special editions with more horsepower than gearheads of the 70s could have dreamed of. That car was an homage to the original Challenger, introduced in 1970, also ridiculously fast for its time if you checked the right boxes on the option form. In between, from 1978-83, Dodge applied the Challenger badge to this car, a captive import based on the Mitsubishi Galant.

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Under the hood, where the once and future Challengers housed massive V8 engines capable of turning gasoline into tire smoke at alarming rates, this one has a Mitsubishi 2.6 liter four-cylinder engine making a meager 105 horsepower. Ironically, this engine has hemispherical combustion chambers, so it is technically correct, however disingenuous, to call it a “Hemi Challenger.” Doing so would probably not endear you to most Mopar fans, however. It runs and drives great, and the seller has a stack of receipts and records dating back to when it was new.

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It’s pretty nice inside, and almost certainly better screwed together than Chrysler’s own efforts at the time. The Challenger was marketed as a sporty car; Plymouth’s version, the Sapporo, was more of a miniature personal luxury coupe. I gotta say, though, these seats look pretty comfy. The driver’s seat has one tiny tear in the fabric, but aside from that, the interior is in great shape.

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It looks great outside, and the seller says it has been garaged its whole life. I always really liked the style of these cars, and I’m a sucker for two-tone paint. The off-brand white letter tires on those excellent factory alloy wheels are a nice touch, too. With the propensity to rust that these cars had, this is probably one of the nicest ones left.

These cars make me think of the Tennyson poem “Ulysses“: “Though much is taken, much abides, and though / We are not now that strength which in old days / Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are.” If you judge them against their earlier counterparts, they are found terribly wanting. But what if you take them at face value, exactly as they are? Can you ignore their famous names and find something redeeming in them? Or, if not, which one strikes you as less of an affront to its heritage?

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Car Guy - RHM
Car Guy - RHM
3 hours ago

I chose the AMX, it wouldn’t be difficult to do an engine swap. I think the front seats are from something later. I drove one of those Challengers with a stick in the early 80’s. It wasn’t bad for the era, but not deserving of the Challenger name, plus this one is too expensive for what it is.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
2 hours ago
Reply to  Car Guy - RHM

The seats are totally from something later. I’m guessing 2000-2008.

Vee
Vee
4 hours ago

I want to say Challenger. I know they’re pricing it based on rarity and oddball status, but that’s still too much.

I’m going AMX.

Anoos
Anoos
4 hours ago

AMX.

I love these weird over-stickered slow cars from this era. I would also take a Mustang II or a terribly underpowered transam with the hood chicken and gold stripes.

TriangleRAD
TriangleRAD
3 hours ago
Reply to  Anoos

Don’t forget the Volare Road Runner! Louvers and stickers for days…

Anoos
Anoos
2 hours ago
Reply to  TriangleRAD

I miss them all. I used to see them all the time.

Sure, they weren’t fast. Nothing on the road at that time was fast. May as well have fun with being slow.

SlowCarFast
SlowCarFast
4 hours ago

I’m stuck on the 4 lug wheels on the Challenger. Why do they bother me so much?

Elhigh
Elhigh
4 hours ago

The Challenger was a travesty. Calling it almost anything else would have been less inappropriate, and trying to charge $9000 for this example just adds a healthy dose of WTF.

The AMC AMX could at least be had with a V8, even if this example was not so equipped – in fact if you knew the right people you could have yours fitted with the mighty 401, not a slouch in this chassis even in the smog-choked 70s. Good luck finding one today though.

It’s worth pointing out that the Javelin upon which the AMX was originally based had two straight-six engines in its arsenal as well. Unfortunately the Concord version weighed exactly the same so I doubt if performance improved at all with the smallerizing of the chassis. I’m certain it would fare better with the 304 – also available in the Concord model – under the hood.

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
4 hours ago

I wanna 4.0L HO swap that AMX real bad!

Scoutdude
Scoutdude
3 hours ago
Reply to  Shooting Brake

My thought exactly though I’d stick that 258’s crank and rods in it and have a 4.6L HO.

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
4 hours ago

The “AMX” is so cheesy I had to pick it. Plus straight 6, plus manual…

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
4 hours ago

That Hairnet AMX is a poser, based on an otherwise perfectly acceptable compact hatchback. The Challenger is a stylish, frugal compact with no sporting pretensions. There is nothing of the original AMX in the Hornet version, though it’s not all that far from the later Javelin based AMX when AMX became nothing more than a model badge versus a unique car. Most pony cars of all stripes sold were not firebreathing street racers, rather being equipped with pedestrian motors (318 V-8s and 225 Slant Sixes in the Challenger’s case) and the Mitsubishi lines up well with these. If Dodge had stuck on stripes and an R/T badge, then it would have joined the Hornet AMX in poser status. Voting for the Dodge as it’s not trying to be something it’s isn’t. That price is lunacy, though.

MaximillianMeen
MaximillianMeen
4 hours ago

That AMX is atrocious, ridiculous, outrageous, idiotic, and horrid. I freaking love it!!!!

The Challenger is…. yawn.

Shop-Teacher
Shop-Teacher
4 hours ago

The AMX is at least twice as cool, for less than half the price.

Sid Bridge
Sid Bridge
4 hours ago

Two things stick out for me…

  1. What is up with the decision to have the cloth insets in the vinyl seats of the Challenger only come up to where your butt ends? Do they expect people to be driving these things wearing nothing but a crop top? Please don’t answer that.
  2. Turbo Tech GT Radials!!! My Olds had a set of those when I bought it… in1995. No shop was able to replace them. Either those tires are 30 years old or somewhere you can still find Turbo Tech GT Radials. Also, Turbo Tech GT Radials are only 1 for 5 on that name. They are radials, but they are not turbo, not technical, not grand, and not for touring.
Drive By Commenter
Drive By Commenter
5 hours ago

One AMX to go. Slowly. Since it’s nowhere near the original, go ape! Tesla swap that sucker so it’s properly quick.

KYFire
KYFire
5 hours ago

I’m in the middle if these, both philosophically and physically. I think the grubbier but cheaper AMX wins with being a manual. Plus, I can go to the Wadsworth Griswold House to appreciate that at least I don’t have those people as neighbors.

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
5 hours ago

The rebadged Galant Lambda is waaaaay overpriced – but it’s a clean, well put together hardtop coupe with uncluttered styling.
I’ll bargain with the guy on that one

Besides – I don’t like yellow.

Last edited 5 hours ago by Urban Runabout
Eric Schliffka
Eric Schliffka
5 hours ago

Mr Yellow AMX approves of the Yellow AMX! I would drop a 401 in the pig and make it scoot! Mmmm… this car is close to me.

Icouldntfindaclevername
Icouldntfindaclevername
5 hours ago

I’ll take the AMX. His walk around video, and it started right up no problem, sealed the deal.

JShaawbaru
JShaawbaru
5 hours ago

This AMX is nowhere near as cool or nice as the one at the Ohio Autopian Taxi meetup, but it’s still yellow, and half the price of the Challenger. I’ll take it.

XLEJim700
XLEJim700
5 hours ago

The Challenger is somewhat handsome and competent. That AMX, though, is a bold, raucous, visual delight. If it’s in your driveway–the party is here, man!!!

ChefCJ
ChefCJ
5 hours ago

Please stop making me pick the Dodge

Brandon Forbes
Brandon Forbes
4 hours ago
Reply to  ChefCJ

It’s ok though, because it’s actually a Mitsubishi!

Elhigh
Elhigh
4 hours ago
Reply to  Brandon Forbes

Right, and that makes it aaaalllll better.

Harvey Firebirdman
Harvey Firebirdman
5 hours ago

I might be crazy but I actually really like these styling of Hornet AMX and you could actually get them with t tops back then too if I am not mistaken. Sure it might not live up the the actual AMX name but still and for the price this it is not bad for a hobby car or even a project for a parent and a kid could easily swap in a bigger engine in the future and can also teach stick shift in it.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
5 hours ago

These are both truly terrible options. You can just take the less expensive one and move on.

Jonathan Green
Jonathan Green
5 hours ago

AMX, because it was our inspiration.

Circa 1982, as a young teenager, my friends and I were disgusted by the so-called sports cars that were nothing more than stickers and fake hood scoops on nothing cars.

My sister had a K car, and for a laugh, we made a fake hood scoop, a rear spoiler, a chin spoiler, wheel flares, side pipes, and stickers, calling the car “The Cruiser”, and one of my buddies dressed up (ala Monty Python) as the “Cruiser Girl”.

We even shot a commercial with video equipment we checked out from the school.

Well, we thought it was funny…

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
5 hours ago

AMX. It’s objectively the best color, a stick, and not a total embarrassment like the “Charger”.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
5 hours ago

The Dodge.

The AMX is fun to look at, but the gulf in driving experience between the two cars is a yawning chasm.

And the Mitsu-based Charger has its own aesthetic charm. AND IT’S SO CLEAN!

I would enjoy that much more.

And it’s not “sort of” a hemi. The 2.6 is definitely a Hemi (with a jet valve and Mikuni feedback carb?)

Mitsu made very good captive imports.

Elhigh
Elhigh
4 hours ago
Reply to  Dan Roth

You mean Challenger. The concurrent Charger available around the same time as this misnamed Mitsu was, in fact, all Dodge even if it did borrow some engineering from Chrysler’s European arm.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
1 hour ago
Reply to  Elhigh

Yes, Challenger.

PlugInPA
PlugInPA
6 hours ago

I think you could recreate David’s Jeep Bondo video with that AMX.

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