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One Of America’s Most Promising Racers Is A Black Kid Who Doesn’t Own A Car

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At the end of July, fans and teams from all over the country congregated at the world-famous Laguna Seca Raceway to watch some of the most talented drivers in the world turn left, left, right, and then right again as they navigate the high-speed corners of the track and race towards its iconic Corkscrew turn.

Racing is like any other sport in the way you pick favorites: An affinity for your local team translates to a love for a local driver (shoutout Arizona resident Frankie Muniz), someone winning their first champ ring cementing them as your champ (anyone else watch Verstappen in ‘21?), or maybe you just identify with them for one reason or another. For me, that last one is Myles Rowe.

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Here’s the quick bio on Rowe: he races in the Indy NXT series, which is essentially America’s version of Formula 2. It’s the series you have to go through before, hopefully, making it to the top of the ladder. As with Formula 2, the number of obstacles to success is essentially unlimited, and talent is only a fraction of what is required to be a success. In racing, as in life, a little talent and a lot of money go much further than the inverse.

The 25-year-old from Georgia isn’t cool just because he’s a race car driver; he’s cool because he’s the first Black person to win in the discipline. I love motorsports, and particularly IndyCar, but it’s rare to see someone who looks like me. Obviously, NASCAR has Bubba Wallace and F1 has Lewis Hamilton. Indy had Willy T. Ribbs, but his last Indy 500 ride was before I was born.

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Myles Rowe poses next to his car at the Abel Motorsports trailer in between sessions. The Indy NXT cars have a standardized spec Dallara IL-15 chassis and have a 2.0-liter I-4 Mazda engine with 450 + 50 horsepower that’s been modified by Advanced Engines Research. Photo Credit: Griffin Riley

Winning a race should make you cool, but the reality is that there are plenty of people who have won races you’d never want to have a beer with. The promise of Drive To Survive was that race car drivers would become more like real people, but the reality, especially in America, the safe choice is to be boring. Rowe is anything but boring.

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He hasn’t yet found the success to make him a household name, but he exudes a confidence and a cool that made me want to interview him. I wanted to know where his love of racing came from, what it was like being an outsider in a largely white world, and what the hell he was thinking by trying to be a professional driver from Brooklyn, where he doesn’t even own a car. Did I mention I got to take photos of him with my 100-year-old film camera? I just wanted to add that part.

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Can you tell if this one was taken on film, or was it not worth the effort? Photo Credit: Griffin Riley

The Interview

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Myles Rowe speeds out of the corkscrew and drives towards turn nine during the July 27 race at Laguna Seca. Photo Credit: Griffin Riley

GRIFFIN: You are starting P4 in the first race, you said P6 in the second. How do you feel going into that? 
ROWE: I feel good going into the race. I know I’m gonna be well off in the race. Disappointed with the end result of qualifying. I know we had a little bit more pace in that, at least to maybe start P4 in race 2, because the way it works is we have two different groups. So even if you end up P2, or even like in the case of my group, if you end up P1 in that group […], and then the second group went faster, even though you’re P1, you start P2. So since I was P2 in that group, I’ll start P4. So the second [race], it goes off a first fast time, second fast time. So my second fastest time was like on the third of that [group], so I have to start P6 for the second race. So, a little bit disappointed with that, because you want to be higher, and it’s a little bit tough to pass on this track. But, you know, I think it’ll be fun once I get to the race. I always reset. I’m still in the process of resetting right now, but in the next 15 minutes or so, I’ll be pretty pumped to get on the track and do it.

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Rowe films a video with Donut Media’s social media team during downtime between sessions. Photo Credit: Griffin Riley

What’s that reset process? What are you doing to center yourself?
Just breathing and stuff. It’s kind of a big process of appreciating your whole day, just remembering it’s good that you’re alive today and stuff like that. Getting time away from focusing on what we were just doing and coming back to reality, and the sense where, like I said, good to be alive, and then second of all, that it’s a privilege to be doing what we’re doing. Getting time to do that gets me a little bit more excited. And then, just focusing on racing, which is why we’re here in the first place.

So you kind of get out of that mindset because, of course, you focus heavily on that qualifying session before that happens. Once you get past that, you get to the main reason why you’re here in the first place, which is racing. So, even if you don’t start first, you know you’re here to pass cars. So that gets me pretty excited and helps me reset.

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Rowe starts his descent down the Corkscrew during Sunday’s race. Photo Credit: Griffin Riley

How do you feel about Ricky Bobby: If you ain’t first, you’re last?
[Laughing] That’s exactly why I’m a little disappointed… That echoes in my head all the time, all the time. I said that to one of my engineers a few minutes ago. He was like, “Are you okay?” and that was my response to him.

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But there’s got to be a little bit of fun in making the battles, trying to get through the crowd?
Of course, yeah, and that’s kind of what gets me excited. A lot of people always tell me that’s what they like about my driving, because even though I don’t start in first, more often than not, I’ll be moving up and be contending and putting pressure on people. Where I’m starting this weekend, it’ll make the show exciting.

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Rowe sits on his car during a weather delay for the Sunday race. Photo Credit: Griffin Riley

So, as a car publication, I got to ask: what do you drive?

I use the MTA. I don’t have a car.

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Does this look like the kind of person who owns a car? Photo Credit: Griffin Riley
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No, that’s a certified MTA user right there. Photo Credit: Griffin Riley

I had a feeling that it would be the answer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I skate a little bit, not really much anymore because of racing, but sometimes I’ll throw down the board and cruise somewhere, either to my girlfriend’s place or something. But most of the time, I’m catching the R train at my stop or whatever. Is that weird? Because so many of the others have cars, they’re “practicing” every day. Is it weird that, outside of race weekends, you probably aren’t driving that much?

I’m sure it’s weird for them to think about that reality, but for me, it’s not too bad because I know when I’m driving, I’m going to be driving fast. I’m not going to be driving to get somewhere, sort of thing. It kind of keeps me separated, which is another thing the city does that I appreciate. It kind of keeps the two separate in a, I don’t know, more in like a creative way.

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When I’m not in the city, it’s all about performance and going fast. When I’m in the city, there’s nothing about going fast, nothing about driving. It’s all about what’s around me, walking and everything, your imagination from whatever you’re thinking about on your walk, or whatever you want to do or will be doing with your friends. It’s just kind of like an easier separation of my two different worlds, I think.

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Rowe meeting his idol, F1 driver Fernando Alonso. Credit: Sky Sports F1 via YouTube Screenshot

You had an interview a couple of years ago where you talked about getting into racing after flipping through channels, watching golf with your dad, and seeing Fernando Alonso in the blue and yellow Renault. What was it that appealed so much to you?
Yeah, so when we switched the channel, I think it was like the attitude of the car that really got to me, that really resonated with me when I was a kid. We watched it through, and even just seeing the podium and seeing him as a driver and the other drivers, you could just tell there was something different about them, kind of like how they were wired and everything, and that was something that really resonated with me. I already wanted to be a golfer, so I wanted to be an athlete already, so seeing that kind of version of an athlete really appealed to me, something that I didn’t know existed at the time. That just made me want to dive deeper into it.

And then I saw another real cute video of I think it was your mom who maybe did the home interview.
[Laughing]. Yeah, yeah.

I did my research.

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[Nervous laughing]

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Rowe drives on three wheels down the Corkscrew. Photo Credit: Griffin Riley

You specifically said that you love Grand Prix racing and not just turning left. How do you feel about the fact that you’re in a series that runs a good amount of ovals? Do you have more of a love for them now?
I do, I do. I had this conversation with someone a day or two ago. I didn’t like the idea of oval racing when I was younger, especially growing up being influenced by Formula One. I wasn’t actually influenced by IndyCar until later in my years, so I never really took an appeal to that, but once I actually got out and did it, […] it was really the racing aspect.

I think the open-wheel car honestly helped, trying in an open-wheel car because it’s just so crazy experiencing the turbulence and the forces at play when you’re racing against other cars on an oval, and that was something I just never really even gave myself the room to really understand when I was younger. Being able to do that and experience that completely changed my whole perspective of that side of racing. Ever since my first oval race, I’ve just been absolutely in love with it because it’s just like the rock and roll of things. It’s amazing.

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Rowe and his team posing for a photo before the Sunday race. What can I say, people love the old film camera. Photo Credit: Griffin Riley
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And the Firestone Firehawk relaxing with Rowe as well. Which is more photogenic? Photo Credit: Griffin Riley

In 2021, you became the first African American to win a USF 2000 race. In 23, you were the first to win an American open wheel championship, and just a few weeks ago, you became the first African American to win in Indy NXT. What’s it feel like to make history?
Yeah, it’s very surreal. I have a lot of expectations of myself, so it’s nice that all the pressure (it was really bad when I was younger) and the expectations I put on myself [are] kind of accumulating now, because I think it equates to the amount of potential I knew I had, and will continue to have. The expectation and the weight of pressure I put on myself, I think it equates to that and more. I don’t want to say [it’s] relieving; I think it makes sense and I’m very grateful for it, because like I said, it’s something that I really sacrificed a lot for and worked really, really hard on. So it’s nice that I was able to achieve those things, because that’s the level of the work that I do, you know, by myself in private.

In terms of sacrifice, did you really have any kind of motorsports background beforehand? Did your parents have any connections? What was it like coming up?
Absolutely nothing, I had to do all this stuff myself.

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The only reason I started doing it was because there was a phase for about a year or two, when I was about 10 to 12, where I would always research all these different go-kart parts and things that my parents possibly could buy that they never ended up buying because it was too expensive. I’d wake up every Saturday. I remember I did this religiously, it was like I was like in a loop, it was crazy. And I’d always add all these things on this website called tsracing.com, it was one of those motorsport websites where you have every single part you can need for like body work, the chassis components, the steering wheel, whatever, muffler parts. I’d add everything we needed, and it would come up to some crazy number of a couple K or whatever.

I’d show my dad every time, just hoping we could afford it this one week or something–but I was a big dreamer back then. So after doing that a few times, I realized that that probably wasn’t going to work, so I started looking for different leagues that I could even do in rental karting.

I don’t even know if this might have started when I was doing that research, and then it just came up on Google at the right time, but I found a rental kart league in Georgia from doing all this research, and it was like $300 for a season, which was, I think, a four-month thing or a five-month thing. So we went to see, check it out, and do that.

You had to do a training, evaluation session because they had different levels [that] were basically pro, intermediate, and rookie, and it was GT1, GT2, GT3. Normally, they start you in GT3, but they were like, “You’re too quick for GT3, so I’m going to start you in GT2,” and that was history. So I did that championship, and then I actually won that in my first year by one point, in the very last race.

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Rowe on the final approach to the top of the Corkscrew at turn 8a. Photo Credit: Griffin Riley

Word.
And they were all very surprised by that, because that wasn’t even the championship I was supposed to run. I was supposed to run the lower one. And I didn’t do absolutely anything before that. I have no history of motorsport at all. That’s the beginning of the Rowes and motorsport right there.

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So you got folks like Hamilton who have talked a lot about his struggles breaking into this sport as a Black man in a largely white industry. Do you feel like you share a lot of that experience, or do you feel like you’ve faced a lot of the same challenges?
I think well, I know, Lewis definitely had a lot more trouble than I did coming up, which is the industry and people just not being so welcoming. In the Road to Indy, since 2021, everybody’s been very welcoming to me, and everyone’s been very supportive of me and the program. There have obviously been some people who have been skeptical and maybe not thought it would last, and maybe not have the most positive views on how it would transform. But I haven’t had anything bad going on since 2021.

Go karts, it was another thing, my dad got the worst of it. Just people not really being welcoming to him. Some kids were leaving me out of circles and stuff. I felt kind of isolated in go-karts, and that was really, really difficult. My dad could see that, so we had a pretty difficult time in go-karts.

It didn’t really feel like a place where we could come and feel welcomed. Sometimes it was okay, like the GoPro Motorplex in North Carolina was a lot better, but when we would go on the road, it would get pretty difficult, and we’d feel very, very isolated and couldn’t really… get around too much. My dad did very well, though, and made the best of it as he could, and there were some people who were very helpful to us, but I know, especially being further back in the day, like Lewis, had a lot more controversy. It’s gotten a lot better now.

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The Abel Motorsports team gets ready to take Rowe’s car out to pitlane before Sunday’s race. Photo Credit: Griffin Riley

Is there any significance behind your number, 99?
Yeah, so there’s this African American driver named Rajo Jack, who never won in the 99 before, so we wanted to run that number number and win in that to pay homage to him, because he even had trouble sometimes getting into the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, because they just didn’t allow Black drivers back then and you were kind of lucky to race. He was in that era where it was never welcoming. He never had the best equipment or anything close to it, and didn’t win in that number when he had it. So we just wanted to take that and kind of, you know, bring it to the present now and pay respect to that.

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When not in the race suit and in the car, why not relax in the trailer? Photo Credit: Griffin Riley
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Rowe and Force Indy president Rod Reid chat before the race. Photo Credit: Griffin Riley

Is there anything you’ve learned in your daily life that’s helped you find success in racing, and maybe the same thing in reverse? Anything you learned from racing that’s helped you day to day?
Yeah, I think that one’s a pretty deep one.

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I think patience honestly just applies to both, kind of like all things come to those who wait. That applies just as much in racing as it does in life, in my experience, for sure. I think that’s the biggest one, honestly, and kind of the most boring because no one likes waiting. But it really is crazy how powerful the act of being patient and grateful is and using the resources you have, because that played a big part in me being able to be here now and still having faith that things will come, you know? So just have faith in yourself, and then the patience thing.

I think confidence too, like, especially in New York if you’re an artist or something, pursuing your passion. As much as it applies in racing confidence, the more confident you are, the more your work is gonna be pure from yourself and it’s it’s not gonna be muddled by second guessing yourself and […] making your work for the consumer and how you want them to see it versus what you actually believe and making it just from your heart and soul.

That same confidence goes into racing where you can’t second guess on track and in the engineering room sort of thing, you have to have confidence in your team, and the mechanic setting up the car, your engineer, and what he thinks, how the balance should be, but also in your line and how you perform on track. That helps you attack the corners properly, that helps you not be scared about going off track, and make the correct passes and not fall short. That same idea of falling short can happen with a lack of confidence in the real world, especially in an artistic, creative way.

Well, then I guess the last question for you is, what’s your favorite place to grab a slice?
Luigi’s Pizza in Brooklyn.

What makes that so good?
Oh, man. Well, first of all, the dough everywhere in New York is really good. But something about Luigi’s […] There are some places in New York, like Little Italy, where the bread’s like like good and thick, which is nice, but also like some places like Joe’s where it’s pretty thin, which can be your thing, but Luigi’s? It’s just right.

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All right, man, thank you so much.
Appreciate it, man.

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Myles Rowe at the team trailer before heading out for Sunday’s race. Photo Credit: Griffin Riley

Rowe held his position on Saturday’s race, starting and ending in P4. His Sunday had a lot of contact, both on the giving and receiving end, ultimately ending in eighth place after starting sixth. His next attempt out will be the final race of this season, this weekend, at the Grand Prix of Portland.

(This interview has been edited for length and clarity. All photos by author unless otherwise noted.)

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PlatinumZJ
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PlatinumZJ
1 month ago

I don’t follow much racing, but this was a genuinely interesting interview! The passion Myles has for racing is very apparent. And the photos from the vintage camera were an outstanding touch!

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
1 month ago

I’m quite the technophile, and embrace most tech pretty quickly, but the photographs in this story were outstanding. It hit me right in the feels of reading paper magazines when I was a kid. Just felt better, in the days of full blown out HDR content everywhere the subtlety and dare I say realism on a computer screen no less were a nice break.

The story is also great and well written, if I ever have time to sit down and watch racing again I’ll keep my eye out for Myles an number 99!

Operatoring
Operatoring
1 month ago

Great piece! I’ve been following Myles since his USF 2000 days, and I’m really looking forward to him in an Indycar.

Aaronaut
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Aaronaut
1 month ago

Always love your articles and photos, Griffin. Keep bringing the heat!

F.Y. Jones
F.Y. Jones
1 month ago

Just gonna echo others: fantastic piece, fantastic photos, fantastic subject. Like others, I don’t follow motor sports but this guy makes me want to pay attention.

TK-421
TK-421
1 month ago

I don’t follow Indy but this was a great piece.

Theotherotter
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Theotherotter
1 month ago

Great interview, great story!

Theotherotter
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Theotherotter
1 month ago
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It’s articles like this that are one of the things I enjoy and appreciate about the Autopian.

SageWestyTulsa
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SageWestyTulsa
1 month ago

This is an excellent interview, a really compelling story, and those film pics are outstanding as well. Really solid work all around, and another reason this site continues to distance itself (in the best way possible) from so many other “enthusiast” sites out there.

As the father of a 9yo who hasn’t quite (really at all) developed his dad’s taste for all things automotive, Myles’s story provides motivation to keep trying where motorsport is concerned — Maybe there’s hope yet for my son yet! And if not, that’s fine too, because I love him no matter what.

Paul E
Paul E
1 month ago

Great interview, enjoyed the photography and really enjoyed learning about this smart and insightful up and coming talent. Thank you! So, since you laid it out there and nobody’s bit on it, what camera/film were you shooting with?

Livernois
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Livernois
1 month ago
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I’m curious too. Shooting anything moving fast with film means getting the set up and timing just right, or else wasting tons of film.

MikeInTheWoods
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MikeInTheWoods
1 month ago

Since my son is very interested in motorsports and is currently at an Autocross weekend event with my Miata, I found this article to be very inspiring and encouraging. The insight to the focus and prep to keep a clear mindset is very good to know. I will be sharing this read with him when he gets back. He’ll be a freshmen at Wentworth in mechanical engineering focusing on automotive tech. People keep telling him his future will be obsolete with AI in 24 months, but I think Rowe’s thoughts on following your passion with confidence in yourself is the true path to success. Because it might not be financial success, but instead, could be happiness. Thanks Griffin for the great interview!

RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
1 month ago
Reply to  MikeInTheWoods

“People keep telling him his future will be obsolete with AI in 24 months”

Wow, talk about a bunch of bullshit.
AI=Artificial Stupidity
Guess they haven’t watched Terminator!

MikeInTheWoods
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MikeInTheWoods
1 month ago

Yeah, I tell him to follow his passions and the rest will work itself out. Since he knows how to weld and fabricate parts, he’ll have a job no matter what happens.

RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
1 month ago
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Yeah, that’s awesome! There should always be a demand for that, plus it’s always great to have the skills

Jb996
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Jb996
1 month ago

I’m genuinely curious how someone gets into racing, or any high level sport, especially when they don’t grow up in the family, or have claims of not having enough money.
I think it could help other kids understand how to pursue their dream.
Usually, behind every heroic Olympic athlete, there is an equally heroic parent (and usually money) which allowed them to do nothing but drive their kid to practice and travel around the country.

So, it’s amazing he kept trying and found a summer league in Georgia for $300. But how did they arrange for room/board all season? Did they travel every weekend? It sounds like his father traveled with him everywhere for go carting; what did his father do? Did he have a job? Who supported their family during those times?
There’s either money, or another real hero (his parents) somewhere in this story that should also be covered.

Matt Sexton
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Matt Sexton
1 month ago
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I watch a lot of junior series racing and I can tell you that getting into racing is an extremely expensive affair. You either have to have money or somehow get access to it (sponsors).

I remember reading an old thread a couple years back where someone was asking how much a season of F1600 would cost (basically just above karting and a level below the entry USF Juniors program that leads in three steps to Indy NXT). And the general consensus there was that a potentially title-winning season in F1600 would cost about $250,000. Which just happens to be about the payoff for winning a season of USF Juniors, to advance to USF2000.

So people that complain about racing ride-buyers need to understand that everyone in the top tiers of motorsport (the only tiers that actually pay), bought their way to that level. Racing is expensive, and those teams don’t buy and maintain those cars and pay all their personnel all year long out of their own pockets, just to be nice to the kids trying to make it. That’s not how the economies of it work.

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Shooting Brake
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Shooting Brake
1 month ago

Go get it Myles! Hope to see you in the main INDYCAR series one day soon!

Totally not a robot
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Totally not a robot
1 month ago

Oh hell yes. Grassroots/underrepresented groups, interviews, action photos. More of this!

Slower Louder
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Slower Louder
1 month ago

That’s a fine piece. The idea of a photographer doing an essay, or in this case an interview, is very strong. I want to see more of that. Your photos up the experience hugely. Are you listening, Matt?
Interest in racing doesn’t seem too strong on the Autopian. But I think there are two aspects of racing likely to grab almost all of us. One is the people, as in Griffin’s article here, and the other is the engineering, as in the series by Aedan. These topics don’t always generate a lot of comments, because they are neither ridiculous (an obvious strength of the Autopian) nor controversial. But I hope they are being read and enjoyed.

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Matt Sexton
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Matt Sexton
1 month ago
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I wish there was a bigger interest in racing here, only because my interest in it is sizable. 🙂 Ultimately what makes racing interesting is in fact the people. That’s what got me into junior series. I was watching the top tier stuff of course, but then I started to be curious about where these guys come from. They don’t just drop in from out of nowhere. So when you start to explore the depths of F2, F3, F4, the USF program, Moto3 or whatever, you see how big and deep racing is, and how hungry folks are to make it. Most will never get to the top tier, which is one reason why Rowe’s story is so cool.

Slower Louder
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Slower Louder
1 month ago
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Thank you, I agree.

TaurusSHO
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TaurusSHO
1 month ago

We saw Myles on the Friday before the Detroit GP, walking through the paddock. We called out and wished him good luck, he seemed genuinely surprised that someone recognized him and gave me a fist bump. Cool dude. Way better reaction than Rossi, who just sped past on his scooter and barely gave ma a side-eye. But thats just Rossi though!

Drive By Commenter
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Drive By Commenter
1 month ago

Great interview! Also digging the photos!

5VZ-F'Ever and Ever, Amen
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5VZ-F'Ever and Ever, Amen
1 month ago

I don’t follow racing but this is a great story with great photos! Well done

Space
Space
1 month ago

You should have asked him if he reads the Autopian. Or reads any car website, it would be interesting to see how many racers know about this fine place.

Totally not a robot
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Totally not a robot
1 month ago
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“I heard there was this cool car publication, but then I checked it out and it’s all weird retro computers and airplanes and old Jeeps.”

I don't hate manual transmissions
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I don't hate manual transmissions
1 month ago

Great profile Griffin. I hope this kid does well.

One point of order on Verstappen’s first championship, though – it should show up in the record books under “Masi Verstappen”.

The steward essentially handed Max that race by letting half the traffic go around the pace car to clear the track for Max and his fresh tires. Had that traffic still been ahead of them, Lewis would have had a chance. And had the rules been followed, all of the backmarkers would have been sent around and another lap or two would have been completed under yellow, giving Lewis less of a window to play defense on his older tires.

They fired Masi after that race, but Verstappen still got the (in my opinion) unearned race win and the championship. Lewis was robbed.

Matt Sexton
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Matt Sexton
1 month ago

2021 is still living rent-free in your head, eh?

To my recollection, there were five cars between Max and Lewis before the wave-around. Had they been left there, all of them would have been receiving blue flags immediately upon green. On fresh reds, Max would have had one or two of them dispatched within the first two corners, and probably the others before the first hairpin. No way those guys a lap down are going to want to interfere with a title fight. Max would have surely made a banzai move at the chicane, turn nine, or even at the hotel (which is possible).

Red Bull instantaneously made the right call to pit, from my understanding Lewis was already past pit entrance so didn’t have the same opportunity. As soon as the SC was called, Mercedes was screwed. The only scenario by which Lewis wins is if the race finishes under yellow.

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1 month ago
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The problem was that the race should have ended under yellow had Masi followed the rules as written, and how he had applied them previously.

I do understand that the race director has wide authority to run the race how he wants to, but the decision he made wasn’t consistent with safety car decisions he made earlier in the season, and changing the rules at the drop of a hat doesn’t make sense in any sport.

He’s not the race director any more as a result of his actions.

Matt Sexton
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Matt Sexton
1 month ago
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Masi could have also sent the lapped cars around a lap earlier, something the commentators were in fact questioning why it hadn’t been done. So saying it should have ended under caution is a bit tenuous.

I’ll accept that maybe it could have ended under yellow, but Red Bull gambled that it wouldn’t, and they were right. If we’re being honest nobody really wants a race to end under yellow (even though they occasionally do), especially a title deciding one.

I understand many folks think Lewis was robbed but I think Max also gets a lot of undeserved vitriol for something that was out of his hands. He won the race that was run.

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1 month ago
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He could have brought the lapped cars round earlier, that’s true.

I guess what happened was that he was intending to finish the race under yellow flag conditions (which is why he didn’t) but then under pressure from Red Bull (which has been documented) he changed his mind and decided that the race had to finish under a green flag somehow. That’s where the problem is – changing his mind far too late on in the process for it to make any sort of sense.

It was 100% not Max’s fault.

I don't hate manual transmissions
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I don't hate manual transmissions
1 month ago
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F1 isn’t something I spend any time thinking about day to day, so saying it lives rent free in my head is an interesting insult to throw my way.

Griffin brought it up, and it triggered a recall. I was watching the race on TV live (as far as I know), so I watched it unfold essentially in real time. It’s a memory, but not something I obsess over.

Similarly, I’d have had other things to say had the subject of Ayrton Senna’s crash come up, because I happened to be watching that race, too.

I don’t usually watch F1, but either a large number of really significant things happen in that racing series, or I’ve had some interesting luck with catching the significant events.

Matt Sexton
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Matt Sexton
1 month ago

It wasn’t meant as an “insult” in any way. My friends and I have spirited debate about that race to this day, and I always welcome insights to it. It was meant as more of a gentle ribbing, sorry it came across that way.

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1 month ago
Reply to  Griffin Riley

That race essentially was for the championship. That was the final race of the season, and it decided the matter.

Max’s “win” puled him ahead of Lewis in the championship standings. Had Lewis won the race, the championship would have been his (a record setting 8th).

I don’t understand the stance Lewis deserved to win the race but not the championship. There must be something else from earlier in the season at play here, that I’m not familiar with.

And no doubt Max is a fantastic driver. I agree with you 100% there. But if life were fair, Lewis currently would have 8 championships and Max would have 3. Maybe someday Max will make it to 10 (or 9 legit, eclipsing the 8 Lewis should have) and that will settle the matter.

As it stands, I think Lewis has to be considered the best of all time, instead of being tied with the great Michael Schumacher.

Matt Sexton
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Matt Sexton
1 month ago

In 2023, I would have said that Max was nearly a lock to get 9, if he and the Red Bull team stayed intact. It did not, and despite Max’s formidable talent I don’t think 9 is on the table anymore.

What’s become obvious to me is that ruleset changes have a way of resetting the hierarchy and some teams get it and some don’t. Despite having Newey or not (remember Newey lost all those titles during the Hamilton years), there’s no guarantee Red Bull goes on a winning streak like they did 2021-2024.

And doubly more so if Max gets bored with F1 and decides to go endurance racing, something which becomes a more distinct possibility with each passing season.

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Matt Sexton
1 month ago

I’ve been watching Rowe since his USF2000 days, he’s a legit talent.

It might be mentioned that Roger Penske stepped in mid-2022 when it looked like Rowe’s funding was about to run out. Glad he did, it was the right call.

Jimmy7
Jimmy7
1 month ago

I loved this interview, I admire this wise youngster and wish him well, and that photo between the leaves of the corkscrew is truly great. Thanks.

Strangek
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Strangek
1 month ago

Griffin, this is awesome! I was pumped to see Rowe get his first NXT win, can’t wait to see him at the next level!

Ignatius J. Reilly
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Ignatius J. Reilly
1 month ago

Thanks for this great piece.

…because even though I don’t start in first, more often than not, I’ll be moving up and be contending and putting pressure on people. Where I’m starting this weekend, it’ll make the show exciting.

This is a great way to look at racing and life in general. There is always somebody faster, richer, and better looking. Worry less about where you are at the moment and more about consistent pressure to improve. His view on patience as a critical piece to it all is spot on.

Also, the photos are great!

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Rad Barchetta
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Rad Barchetta
1 month ago

Rowe seems like a very cool dude with an inspiring story. I wish him the best of luck and hope to see him in an Indycar soon!
Film pictures are so much warmer and more alive. Keep that shit up!

Parsko
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Parsko
1 month ago

Awesome article and interview, Griffin. Looking forward to more of your work. Pictures are great too!

Good Luck, Rowe!!! That Georgia story is pretty awesome. “You’re too fast” is a great thing to hear.

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