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Online Media Is At A Fork In The Road, So We’re Removing Ads For Members

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Here’s some fun math. At our current rates, if you become a member of this website at our lowest annual price (a little less than $4 a month), in order for us to make the same amount of money by just seeing ads, you’d have to view a minimum of 6,500 articles a year.  These calculations are, in reality, based on an ideal situation that doesn’t exist. Advertisers don’t want to show the same ad to the same person 100 times, so the more you view the website, the less money we make per ad, and it becomes something akin to Achilles and the Tortoise, which means it might actually be impossible to read enough stories to break-even relative to a member.

If you want to know why so many of the websites you love are closing or getting worse, this is the big reason. It’s not just social media, reading habits, search engines, and Private Equity that are to blame; it’s that the assumptions websites are built around (more traffic, more ads, forever) are simply wrong. It’s why so much of what you read on the Internet is either AI slop or written by content creators who work in what amount to digital sweatshops.

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The big story in advertising technology this week? A bunch of companies were basically tricked into paying money to put ads on an adult website app, which means if we want to compete for programmatic advertising (the kind of automated ads you mostly see here) dollars, we have to try to beat that. Here’s a great quote from an Adweek article about this:

“This whole ecosystem is sort of like the subprime mortgage thing, where there’s really bad inventory repackaged with high quality inventory, and they say, ‘It’s good inventory!’”

This is all to say that while we’re grateful to have anyone read our work, the structure of online advertising generally makes it so that if we were a solely ad-based site, we wouldn’t be financially motivated to make stuff you’ll love to read. Someone tricked into reading a post is worth as much as someone who is genuinely interested in a story. There’s no money in brand-building. In the short term, all the money is in brand destruction: killing what’s good, firing writers, and trying to squeeze every last cent out of every eyeball.

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From the perspective of the people who buy media brands, it makes a sort of sense. The chart always has to go up and to the right, so with the tools most people who run websites are given the obvious move is to reduce cost by replacing real journalists with overseas freelancers and increase revenue by stuffing some more dirtbox Taboola crap at the bottom of an infinitely scrolling stream.

Readers hate this. They hate this. Everyone knows readers hate this. Everyone feels bad about it. Almost no one changes anything.

So we’re changing it as much as we can. And not just because we also hate it (we do), but because we think that the greatest way to create a valuable and resilient media brand that’ll survive into the future is to make a product that people love to read. It’s not a sophisticated thought, but it’s a complicated one to execute.

If you’re a logged-in and paying member of this website, you’ve probably noticed that almost all the ads have disappeared. Those autoplay videos? They’re not autoplaying anymore. The little video mobile that pops up on your phone? It’s not there. The banner ads, they’re gone. This is both a “thank you” to current members for support, and an investment in the future.

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A person who pays a small amount each month to this website in order to read it (and get a cool shirt, if that’s what they want) brings lifetime value that is literally thousands of times greater than someone who follows a Facebook link here and reads something once.

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I did the math, because that’s my job, and the amount I suspect we’ll lose from this change is the equivalent of adding about 100 members. Many of you have told me that the one thing keeping you from becoming a member is that you have to see ads, so I’m asking you to please follow up on that statement by becoming a member if you’re able.

To clarify, this doesn’t mean that as a member you won’t see anything that resembles advertising. By not buying traffic or tricking people to read our site, we’ve assembled a large audience (bigger than a lot of legacy media brands) of people who buy a lot of cars. This place is full of people who love to wrench, or dream of wrenching. This is an incredibly valuable audience and the partnerships we do, like the one currently involving our Murano CrossCabriolet, are so fun to read that we wouldn’t want to restrict members from seeing that.

But display ads? So long as we can afford to, those are going away for logged-in paying members.

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Will we adjust what kind of ads we show non-members? Probably, yeah. Our initial goal was to have 50% fewer ads than our main competitors, so maybe that number will go to 33%, or we’ll allow more ad-types. We might do some more reminders about membership to folks who aren’t members. All the same, we want people who come here to have a great experience, whether it’s their first visit or their 9,000th, so we are still aiming to make this place feel better than other sites, even for those who can’t pay for the content.

Ultimately, the more we’re interested in what members say, and the less we have to duke it out with adult-oriented apps for ad dollars, the better this website will be. While almost every other one of our competitors has to make their website worse to survive, we’ll be focused on making our website better, and I suspect that’ll result in us being the best and most valuable car site in the world (I kinda already think we’re the best).

If this sounds good to you, please consider becoming a member (also help us force Adrian into a SsangYong). And to those who made the decision to join up before this, thank you again for your support.

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Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
17 hours ago

Fuck yeah

I_drive_a_truck
I_drive_a_truck
17 hours ago

That’s interesting math. Glad to be a member.
I’m curious if you guys have looked at a much, much lower membership cost (call it the Milk Crate level or something), one that eliminates the ads only and doesn’t come with other perks. I’d think that there’s gotta be some folks who don’t need a t-shirt or a fancy Aztec pin but do want to support good journalism.
I doubt many, if any, of us paying already would downgrade and if it makes more money than the ads would…

The Mark
The Mark
18 hours ago

I enjoy these little peeks behind the curtain. Also appreciate the honesty and am happy to be a member for the better experience.

Isis
Isis
18 hours ago

Amazing. Thank you. I noticed the difference on my phone app last night. The scrolling past background ads in iOS was getting frustrating for sure.

elhigh
elhigh
19 hours ago

I am ready to join as a paying member, but some weird circumstance has bollixed my old email, the one by which Autopian recognizes me and signs me in.
I don’t want to sign up under a new username.

Martin Ibert
Martin Ibert
20 hours ago

One thing I would appreciate very much: use SI units instead of US customary units. Or better still, use SI units and state the US customary unit equivalent in parenthesis.
US customary units are only funny multiples of SI units anway.

Top Dead Center
Top Dead Center
20 hours ago

Well I lurked for a while as a non-member, just officially joined today! Got the Lexus nu-luxe (Vinyl) membership.
The ad removal is what did it for me, I really really loathe ads. One of the reasons I no longer visit the old Ja…… ads turning into spam….
Releated will be on the Discord soon, also likely at Troy Wal-Mart today…

Jmfecon
Jmfecon
22 hours ago

Well, you know, a long while ago, there were a Jalopnik Brazil site. I like it, very competent people there. Once the company that controlled them decided to close the site, they founded a new one.

Which was (and still is) great. But after a while, they decided to create a paywall, exactly because of ad revenue not being enough to keep it running, which in order to support, I promptly decide to be sign. But due a suddenly loss of income (the company I worked closed and the business that I opened was not doing well), I had to cut everything that was not essential.

They were in that list.

Then, I realized that they paywalled most of the site, and although liking to read, was frustating to go there and realize that I couldn’t read most of it.

When Autopian decide to go the same way, for the same reason, I felt a dejà-vu, but to my surprise, basically nothing changed. That is great, and is wonderful to see how Autopian is progressing.

So, after postponing it, I will join the club. Will be cloth by now because:

  • Hate discord, probably will never be around there. I am to old for that.
  • To get the perks from the Vinyl, I would need to pay $25 more, that would not be much of a problem but I will need to pay import taxes/duties when I receive them, which will include the shipping cost. So that will fork at least another $25 (yes, import duties is almost the same as COG. I feel really sad about what I will write, but americans will probably understand what I mean soon).
  • My BMW toasted its DME a couple of weeks ago. Still waiting the mechanic check if it is the only thing that it decide to toast.

Still, better cloth than nothing. By the way, ads never bothered me, I am signing just because I like the content and want to support it. You guys deserve it.

Martin Ibert
Martin Ibert
20 hours ago
Reply to  Jmfecon

You get access to Discord even with cloth. I also at the Cloth level, for a few reasons:

  • I have cloth seats in my actual car. They are quite comfy. Cloth is fine.
  • I hate vinyl seats. And the even higher levels are a bit pricey for my taste.
  • As Jmfecon mentions, receiving physical perks from outside the European Economic Area is a major pain in the butt.
Jmfecon
Jmfecon
20 hours ago
Reply to  Martin Ibert

True, Discord comes with all seats. Still dislike it.

Cloth is fine. Today you can’t find new cars with nice cloth seats. Or is really cheap crap or they go with “sustainable” (reads fake) leather.

Martin Ibert
Martin Ibert
19 hours ago
Reply to  Jmfecon

Really? I just looked a few configurators for new cars. VW, Opel and Alfa Romeo all offer cloth seats. You can even buy a new BMW 3-series with cloth seats. The one vendor I could find that only has fake or real leather as options is Mercedes-Benz.

Jmfecon
Jmfecon
15 hours ago
Reply to  Martin Ibert

I don’t live in Europe, but in Brazil. The only brand that offers a decent cloth option is Peugeot.

Decent, not nice. Think Opel Omega (ok, too much upscale, maybe Ascona) nice.

Citroën, Fiat, Renault, VW, they all offer cloth in base trim, but they are miserable. These synthetic stuff is not nice to touch, and stains with water (!).

And this is base trims, usually the next one will be “leather”.

BMW and alike only leather (real or fake). You can’t even spec a 1er with cloth. I saw other day that the 530e is offered here only with the “sustainable” option, dakota leather only in i5.

3WiperB
3WiperB
18 hours ago
Reply to  Martin Ibert

You can actually join the Discord with no membership, but there is a member only thread that all levels of membership get access to.

Marty
Marty
1 day ago

What a wonderful decision! Doing something positive for members. Even Apple’s news product is loaded with click through “ads”. You know, buy this whatever before midnight or you’ll become suicidal that you “missed the deal”. Once again, Thank you!

Stef Schrader
Stef Schrader
1 day ago

people who buy a lot of cars

If anyone wants to buy another car, my birthday is this month and I could still use a tow-Cayenne.

Jmfecon
Jmfecon
23 hours ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

I am the next in the line…

Harvey's PJs (Not His Real Name)
Harvey's PJs (Not His Real Name)
6 hours ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

Happy piëchday!

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
1 day ago

Thank you not only for making this change + to autoplay vids recently too, but also the transparency in talking about running the numbers and talking out the changes. Even though this is obviously a benefit for members, sharing anything beyond just “enjoy :)” isn’t something you have to do. I’ve mentioned a similar sentiment in other posts and topics before. It is much appreciated that we get to see the behind the scenes on how things have come to be.

Cars? I've owned a few
Cars? I've owned a few
1 day ago

Ok, Matt. I am only a cloth member level member. But apparently, between that and the ad blocker I have, I don’t see any of that.

I’ve complained multiple times about how the comments get sorted when I get to the end of a post. But to reiterate, I want to see the oldest comments first, so, as I work my way down, I don’t post a redundant comment. It’s so annoying to make a comment and then to read further, actually earlier, comments and see that someone said something making the same observation hours earlier. And I’m on PDT time, (currently, until we go back to PST) so that’s a frequent occurrence.

You figure that out, and I will upgrade to the next level.

And I only access your site, via a web browser on a laptop, and not via a smartphone. But you get this sorted out and I’ll up my contribution.

All of you are such great writers and deserve to be rewarded.

Last edited 1 day ago by Cars? I've owned a few
DONALD FOLEY
DONALD FOLEY
15 hours ago

I approve of the concept of displaying the oldest, original, comments first.

Cars? I've owned a few
Cars? I've owned a few
13 hours ago
Reply to  DONALD FOLEY

Thank you for another vote for logic.

I HATE reading through the almost random order of comments (sometimes three pages on popular topics) and find someone beat me to the maybe witty observation.

I’m on the West Coast, so I’m two or three hours after a lot articles get posted. But if the comments were sorted oldest first, I could avoid making redundant or embarrassing comments.

Kmeister
Kmeister
1 day ago

Just another comment thanking the team for getting rid of those annoyingly coded banner ads in the middle of articles! Hopefully the math is sound and the updated system is sustainable!

EsotericBlue
EsotericBlue
1 day ago

Thank you so much A team! I noticed my reading experience was loads better – those giant ads in the middle of articles were not fun. Also some of the ads were just not related to me at all.

I get it though – are there more sponsorships coming down the pipe? I dig the xpel articles and if you had reviews and links to gear where you guys get a cut, I would be interested.

Boosted
Boosted
1 day ago

Is there an option to be a member and get ads? As crazy as that sounds, I don’t mind ads. I work in this space, I get it, it pays the bills

Geoff Buchholz
Geoff Buchholz
1 day ago

Aw, I’m in that picture! Keep fighting the good fight, friends.

Mattio
Mattio
1 day ago

Thank you, as a member I appreciate it!

MustBe
MustBe
1 day ago

Huge! Thanks! says this member

BagoBoiling
BagoBoiling
1 day ago

Thanks for the peek behind the ad curtain Matt. Love the site and visit everyday. I just upgraded my membership. Thanks for making it an easier decision by removing the ads.

Daniel B Jamieson
Daniel B Jamieson
1 day ago

Done. Just got a subscription.

JaredTheGeek
JaredTheGeek
1 day ago

Just be like the old site and put all 6500 ads on one article.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
17 hours ago
Reply to  JaredTheGeek

Put all the ads in the ‘new car review’ articles because fuck new cars lol

Patches O' Houlihan
Patches O' Houlihan
1 day ago

Much appreciated!

RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
1 day ago

Thank you! What’s funny is that I didn’t even notice that the ads were gone

1913Jalopy
1913Jalopy
1 day ago

I love this site so much that I turned off my ad blocker on this domain, even though I’m a member. But this is great news!

Dogpatch
Dogpatch
1 day ago

How about a classified ad section?

99 Sport
99 Sport
17 hours ago
Reply to  Dogpatch

Sounds like an excellent idea. Back when newspapers were profitable classified ads were a (the?) major source of revenue – until Craigslist took that income stream. With the current state of Craigslist it seems like there is an opportunity for automotive classifieds with a simple query function (show only manual transmissions, etc). It seems auto auctions are a major source of revenue for other online publications. I bet the vast majority of classic / collector cars are sold private party with no auction so it seems like there is a sizeable market not being served.

These tangential revenue streams seem to work for the internet (think Google, whose specialty is search, but makes money with ads, or Hagerty that earns money from insurance but funds an excellent auto journalism website).

This site would corner the rusty jeep and smart car classifieds for sure

Dogpatch
Dogpatch
16 hours ago
Reply to  99 Sport

I’d happily pay this site for listing cars and tools I no longer need or use.
Plus it’s a very targeted market which would cut down on the bogus emails and texts/ calls that you get from Craigslist.

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