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People My Age Don’t Know What Saab Is And It Hurts

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Good day, Autopian friends. I’m back for the weekend and here to start our time together with a devastating story. Yes, that’s right, I’m here to tell a sob story. Excuse me, I meant to say, Saab story. You be crying tears of frustration, sadness, and nostalgia hopefully at the end of your reading.

I own a shirt that I ordered from blipshift.com, a crowd-sourced website for car shirts, apparel, and stickers. The shirt is bright red with a Saab 900 stamped across the middle. Right below the 900 is “STORY” spelled out in big bold letters. Take a peek:

Vidframe Min Top
Vidframe Min Bottom

Swede Dreams Insta Grande

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I wore this shirt the other day to class for the first time in months. I forgot I owned it. I figured people would point to me and say with a chuckle, “Oh, haha, I get it. Saab’s story is like a sob story! Because they’re gone!” That certainly didn’t happen; quite the opposite did.

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A classmate of mine came up to me between our orchestra rehearsals and inquired about the shirt’s meaning. I said, “It’s a Saab story because the downfall of Saab is a sob story in my books.” He looked at me puzzled and asked, “What’s a Saab?” I said in confusion, “Huh?” He was like, “I’ve never heard of that before.” I was mesmerized.

This was a kid who had heard of Polestar and the glorious Volvo V70R but had no idea what Saab was. I couldn’t believe it! Then it got me thinking; do people my age know about Saab?

Images Saab 900 1987 1
Photo: Saab

I asked some of my friends, who can’t tell a Civic apart from a Diablo if they were familiar with “Saab.” I got a mixture of responses, some including:

“Is that a type of chicken?”

“I sobbed yesterday during my Calc test.”

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“It sounds Swedish” (this was the closest one.)

As an aspiring teacher, let me practice educating you all, my readers, on a brief history of Saab’s mangled past. Saab began life in 1937 in Trollhättan, Sweden, as an airplane manufacturer to provide planes for the Swedish Air Force, just as Europe was steeling itself for another war. The company’s full name was Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget, giving the world the acronym Saab. Try saying that four times in a row!

Saab 92 1950 Images 1
Photo: Saab Archive

The very first Saab car project was known as Project 92, hence where the model, 9-2 emerged from. Saab produced many cars throughout the 20th century, and by the 1980s some of its turbocharged models competed with the likes of BMW. General Motors took a 50% share of Saab in 1989 and eventually made it a wholly-owned subsidiary in 2000.

I was born in 2003, the year Britney Spears received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and the year General Motors introduced the “mighty” Chevy SSR. [Editor’s note: Mighty, huh? Who wants to tell him? —PG] But the 2000s were really Saab’s last hurrah. Even in that decade, many of its cars started to unceremoniously blur with various other GM products, resulting in at least one bizarre but generally well-respected team-up with Subaru too.

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Pictured: Something that didn’t help

Sadly, when GM began to decline in 2008, so did Saab. Later Saabs still had the old-school Swedish charms like the night panel and center console ignition, but were plagued with the problems and interior quality issues GM was known for at the time. Eventually, GM sold Saab off to supercar manufacturer Spyker, which was unable to revive Saab, resulting in a filing for bankruptcy in 2011.

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For years, the brand has been owned by a Chinese group called National Electric Vehicle Sweden, or NEVS, but it’s apparently defunct as of this year. NEVS spent about a decade not doing much with the Saab brand, which considering the booming Chinese auto industry these days seems like a massively missed opportunity. As a car manufacturer, it’s functionally dead these days. 

Photos Saab 9 3 2008 12
Photo: Saab or GM or NEVS or someone, it’s unclear

I was in third grade when Saab filed for bankruptcy, learning my multiplication tables (nine, 18, 27, 36—still got it, baby) at the time. I didn’t even know what a bank account was, let alone the meaning of bankruptcy. I bet most of you are like, this kid’s that young? Get him out of here, he doesn’t know enough about Model T’s, Dusenbergs, Buick Park Avenues, or whatever old people cars you all drive. 

But I can at least respect my elders. More than most, in fact. And I may be young, but I can still lament the death of Saab as much as any modern enthusiast. It just makes me sad that any memory of this brand, any real nostalgia for it, is starting to vanish. Besides whatever 2000s kids grew up riding in Saabs owned by their parents at the time, any love for this now-very-dead brand is going to come through internet weirdness, and that only goes so far. Saab has now gone from a brand whose possible resurrection was cheered on by various editors of The Autopian once to the modern equivalent of AMC or Scout. That sure stings.

Saab Mixed Wallpapers 2
Photo: Saab

Anyways, as a huge Saab fan, I encourage all of my fellow Gen Z-ers to go out there and find a Saab. Don’t be like my friends! Familiarize yourself with Saab. They are magnificent Swedish works of art and deserve all of the love they can get. Find it and send me a picture with three fun facts. Perhaps you might win a prize.

A prize of recognition, as there is no Saab merch to give out anymore.

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Ana Osato
Ana Osato
1 year ago

We had Saabs in the family and before just now, I couldn’t tell you the last time I actually thought about the brand.
It’s possibly been years.

Ana Osato
Ana Osato
1 year ago
Reply to  Rob Spiteri

I just remembered we had a Saab-built Cadillac BLS too… didn’t realise it for 3 hours.
Sorry, but they were quite forgettable. =/

Inthemikelane
Inthemikelane
1 year ago

Thank you Rob for keeping the love for Saab going. Call ’em weird, say GM ruined them, but they were different but pleasing for many folks. I owned a 900T and a convertible 93 and loved them both. Despite the FWD, both handled quite well, were well balanced, and could get up and go. I miss the 93, the 900T not as much, but loved it when I had it.

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
1 year ago

While it likely wouldn’t have changed the outcome, I wonder if they’d have lasted a bit more in people’s memories if they had some earlier SUVification of some kind. Obviously we know where their heads were with the SUVs, with the 9-7X and the unreleased Tribeca-based 9-6X.

But it makes me wonder how with the success of the Cross Country at Volvo and even the Allroad at Audi, Saab never butched up a 9-5 to compete too. At one point the Vectra platform base did offer AWD, so theoretically it would be possible unless it was changed that substantially (welcome for any Saab folks to clarify).

Sure GM wanted to protect its own brands and their actual SUVs, but considering how that usually was more profitable than the plain wagon, it could have had a better return if they tossed a few dollars Saab’s way to do it.

Kasey
Kasey
1 year ago

They did offer a butched up wagon. It was based on the 9-3 though, not the 9-5, and was only offered for 2010 and 2011. It had an inch or so of extra ground clearance, plastic cladding and awd. They only sold 496 of them.

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
1 year ago
Reply to  Kasey

Right – the time it took to make the 9-3X is part of the point. It was more than 10 years after the XC70 came out, and by that point most premium brands had already rolled were deep in the actual crossover game, with the 9-4X around the corner too. A 9-5X in the early 2000s might have been able to ride the wave and be a direct answer to the XC70.

Gee See
Gee See
1 year ago

I mean it is not really the kid’s fault that brands fail, people move on. Hopefully better / quirky things move in and fill the empty niche. Besides if I remember correctly the Viggen model was known to torque steer. I would argue the German infused mini especially the convertible took that niche.

I still have a Commodore file cabinet and I am found outRaspberry pi RP2040 chips that cost a few cents, can emulate “high performance” SCSI protocol. Just cherish the good memories you have and leave others to have their own memories and experiences.

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
1 year ago

1st welcome to you dang kid and your music, may you remove yourself from my lawn post-haste.

Speaking of Saab, last weekend I was at Radwood and there was only 1 Saab there, which made me think, like how many Saabs I’ve seen in the past 10 years, and it’s a fairly low number. In the 90s I feel like I saw them much more frequently, and there was also Seinfeld as others have mentioned.

So I’m wondering if the quality just wasn’t there for them to last more than 10 years. Comparatively I still see plenty of Chevrolet HHRs, and they stopped making those around the same time, and they weren’t, you know,..good.

Maybe Saab wasn’t as good as remembered, not that it’s not worth the time to remember them, plenty of bad cars were neat, like the Suzuki X-90, terrible idea, still fun to think of.

Maybe an idea for a series, how many recently defunct brands does Gen Z know Saturn/Pontiac/Geo/Mercury/Scion/Oldsmobile….

Inthemikelane
Inthemikelane
1 year ago
Reply to  Fuzzyweis

what I’ve seen is the shop/mechanics who could or more accurately would work on them dwindled. I’m in an area of multiple small towns and went from about five places that were good, then three, then one. The later GM models were not so hard, but still, I think that limited, at least in my surroundings, the resale and support.

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
1 year ago
Reply to  Inthemikelane

Ah good point, you can still get HHR parts and service as it’s just Generic Motors parts underneath, Saabs, at least the real Saabs, had weird engine layouts and the mentioned ignition switch deal and such.

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
1 year ago
Reply to  Fuzzyweis

I bet Saturn, Pontiac, Mercury, and Scion are both recent and common enough that they might be remembered. Suzuki or Isuzu, probably not.

It is interesting to hear what people think or associate with brands that they have heard of too. I’ve heard some of my fellow Millennials mention brands that they thought were Chinese and so on sale already here, I think maybe saying Subaru or Hyundai. And I’ve had at least a couple people on seeing a Mitsubishi ask “didn’t they go out of business?” and then I get to wow* them with the knowledge that they actually sell a plug-in hybrid SUV and have for years.

*some exaggeration may apply

Mike Harrell
Mike Harrell
1 year ago

“For years, the brand has been owned by a Chinese group called National Electric Vehicle Sweden, or NEVS…”

NEVS ended up with the physical assets but not the brand, the rights to which were retained by the non-automotive branch of the original company, currently known as Saab AB. This turned out to be a significant problem for NEVS as they had hoped to use the name for their own cars. Saab AB, on the other hand, seems to be doing just fine:

https://www.saab.com/

GhosnInABox
GhosnInABox
1 year ago

This big takeaway here is that more young people need to watch Seinfeld reruns.

“High five!”

GhosnInABox
GhosnInABox
1 year ago
Reply to  Rob Spiteri

It’s about a guy who gets in a car accident and the judge decrees him to be the other driver’s butler.

Duke of Kent
Duke of Kent
1 year ago

Somebody translate this to “millennial” for me, please. I’m trying to put myself in the author’s shoes and to come up with a car company that was discontinued in my early childhood to see if I remember it.

Maybe AMC? But it seems Pacers and Gremlins are so much a part of pop culture that they’re harder to forget then Saabs.

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 year ago
Reply to  Duke of Kent

When year were you born? are you a “millennial”? I’m not sure what you are asking.

Last edited 1 year ago by Shooting Brake
Duke of Kent
Duke of Kent
1 year ago
Reply to  Shooting Brake

Nice try, identity thief! Do you need my mother’s maiden name and SSN, too?

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 year ago
Reply to  Duke of Kent

I make $500.00 a day working from home, you can too, just ask me how!!! 😉

GhosnInABox
GhosnInABox
1 year ago
Reply to  Duke of Kent

As my continued love for “A Goofy Movie” can attest.

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 year ago
Reply to  Rob Spiteri

They should like, buy a Subaru WRX. Volvo XC60 😉

GhosnInABox
GhosnInABox
1 year ago
Reply to  Shooting Brake

“They should like, buy a S̶u̶b̶a̶r̶u̶ ̶W̶R̶X̶.̶ ̶V̶o̶l̶v̶o̶ ̶X̶C̶6̶0̶ Tesla.”

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 year ago
Reply to  GhosnInABox

۹( ÒہÓ )۶

Marc Fuhrman
Marc Fuhrman
1 year ago
Reply to  GhosnInABox

Why buy a Subaru WRX when you could just get a Saab 9-2x? 😉

1029
1029
1 year ago

The real sob story is losing that article about roof rails. I wanted to read that!

Gee See
Gee See
1 year ago
Reply to  1029

To me roof rails is a tell whether a car on the highway is a leo vehicle and not the lion kind.

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
1 year ago

Sounds like a real Saab story

Codfangler
Codfangler
1 year ago

Saabs are weird? What is weird about a three-cylinder, two-cycle engine, and freewheeling?

If your friend hadn’t heard about Saabs, he probably had not heard about Erik Carlsson, one of the top rally drivers of all times. IIRC, he was called “Carlson on the roof” because his tendency (ability?} to roll his Saabs and keep driving.

Bork Bork
Bork Bork
1 year ago
Reply to  Codfangler

That’s also a reference to the Karlsson-of-the-Roof books by Astrid Lindgren.

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 year ago

Seriously, I think it’s so cool that a young lad such as yourself is even aware of SAAB. The fact that you do only reinforces my belief that you are an excellent addition to the Autopian team! ????

Last edited 1 year ago by Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 year ago
Reply to  Shooting Brake

Saab

Last edited 1 year ago by Shooting Brake
Col Lingus
Col Lingus
1 year ago
Reply to  Shooting Brake

No. SAAB. Goes back to the beginning. The very early 96 and Sonnetts were all badged in the uppercase style. We owned dozens…

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 year ago
Reply to  Col Lingus

Good to know!!!

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 year ago
Reply to  Shooting Brake

I pasted an “thumbs up” emoji after the word *team* and I am not sure why it turned into questions marks!!! I really was complimenting you Rob. You really are an excellent addition to the Autopian staff.

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
1 year ago
Reply to  Rob Spiteri

Yes. Really enjoy your stuff too Rob.

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 year ago

Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget
Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget
Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget
Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget

Ha! I did it!! 😉

Last edited 1 year ago by Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 year ago
Reply to  Rob Spiteri

Is it okay if I arrive in my Volvo to the Saab dealership?

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 year ago
Reply to  Rob Spiteri

Ha! I have read that book, then I saw the movie (with subtitles) because the book was so good. He was a lovable old Grump!

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 year ago
Reply to  Rob Spiteri

Remember when he installed the dishwasher for the young struggling couple next store? Or his futile attempts to hang himself?

Marc Fuhrman
Marc Fuhrman
1 year ago
Reply to  Shooting Brake

I had no idea that A Man Called Ove was originally a book. Really loved the movie, looks like I will need to find a copy of the book as well.

Mike Harrell
Mike Harrell
1 year ago
Reply to  Rob Spiteri

There’s still one in Portland, Oregon:

https://www.saabstory.com/

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Harrell

Wow! I had no idea!

Peter Knutson
Peter Knutson
1 year ago

Earlier this spring, I saw two Saab 900 wagons, silver and white, parked one after the other on my corner. In 2023!!! I was so floored I took a picture. (I’d share it, but I don’t think that’s possible on this comment board.)

Oh the days when you could buy a SAAB, let alone a wagon, in America.

Marc Fuhrman
Marc Fuhrman
1 year ago
Reply to  Peter Knutson

Wait, a Saab 900 wagon? From what I recall, there was only like two prototype wagons ever made of the 900. Perhaps you are thinking of one of the later 9-3 or 9-5 estates?

Goodshepherd
Goodshepherd
1 year ago

I’m still driving my 20+ year old SAAB 9-5 Aero daily and it drives like a dream after all these years. Its age is starting to show and it’ll be sad when its time finally comes as every retired SAAB puts the brand even further into extinction, but for now I’m keeping the memory alive.

It’s such a shame about SAAB too, if it’d have survived I think it could’ve worked really well as a premium EV brand.

Parsko
Parsko
1 year ago
Reply to  Goodshepherd

If you’re the one I see every day on CT Rt 8, high-five! I tell myself I want one every time I see it.

Last edited 1 year ago by Parsko
Stig's Cousin
Stig's Cousin
1 year ago

“And I may be young, but I can still lament the death of Saab as much as any modern enthusiast.”

I see nothing strange about lamenting a vehicle that died before your time. I am a millennial, but my favorite automotive decades were the ’60s and ’70s. I lament the death of air cooled VWs, although they died (at least in the US) before I was even born.

Eggsalad
Eggsalad
1 year ago

I was born around the time of the demise of Studebaker, but I know what a Studebaker is. Then again, I’m a car nerd, and I suspect many people my age have no idea what a Studebaker is.

Jim Stock
Jim Stock
1 year ago

I will always want a saab sonnet. I remember the mid 80’s hay-day of 900 turbos everywhere. The joys of curved windshields and odd key placement. top gear did a good tribute a wile back https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWpVvJ8o7wzxCSlXkptI8zNbCgdQPStVI

Inthemikelane
Inthemikelane
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Stock

I always loved the way they looked, but couldn’t fit in one if I tried. Had a friend who was choosing between a Sonnet and a 240Z who went with the Z. Hard choice but the Z at least we could get in it.

Lokki
Lokki
1 year ago

“Britney Spears received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame”

Who is Britney Spears?

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 year ago
Reply to  Lokki

I believe it is a type of arrow used in Archery? ┐(´д`)┌

Usernametaken
Usernametaken
1 year ago

I wore an onion on my belt which was the style at the time.

There used to be a bumble bee on the nickel, five bees to quarter we would say.

Phantom Pedal Syndrome
Phantom Pedal Syndrome
1 year ago
Reply to  Usernametaken

Station attendant! Fill the tank with your finest petroleum distillate, and re-vulcanize those tires post haste.

Last edited 1 year ago by Phantom Pedal Syndrome
Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 year ago

Don’t forget to lube the chassis too!

Phantom Pedal Syndrome
Phantom Pedal Syndrome
1 year ago
Reply to  Shooting Brake

They didn’t have white onions, because of the war. All you could get was those big yellow ones.

Crank Shaft
Crank Shaft
1 year ago

Good day Rob, Glad to see your weekend work again.

My wife thanks you. She is a die-hard Saab sucker. No matter the mechanical follies, her love remains true. I too miss the brand very much and feel the world was a far better place when they were still in. Frankly, GM did them dirty in the end.

Thomas Benham
Thomas Benham
1 year ago
Reply to  Rob Spiteri

I do give GM some respect. They did at first save SAAB, and then they killed it.

Sensual Bugling Elk
Sensual Bugling Elk
1 year ago

Counterargument: Saab was the Weird But Bad to Volvo’s Boxy But Good.

I often catch myself looking for Saab projects on Craigslist, only to stop and think “wait, why am I looking for a Saab?” And I never quite have a good reason. It’s just easy to fall into the trap of Weird = Good (itself a cousin of the equally nonsensical Rare = Desirable). A strangely-shaped box of befuddling engineering decisions and infuriating maintenance procedures doesn’t really appeal to me anymore.

But hey, weird is fun! The world is a less interesting place without Saabs in it, so shoutout to the intrepid wrenchers keeping them alive.

Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
1 year ago

Weird =/= Good

Weird = Fun

Fun = Good

Weird = Good

Marc Fuhrman
Marc Fuhrman
1 year ago

I wouldn’t quite say that Saab’s weirdness was bad. Much of their quirky engineering choices had fairly sound reasoning behind them for the times. Their weird shapes often resulted in aerodynamic cars that used less fuel and needed less power to maintain speeds. The longitudinal fwd setups where pretty common for front drivers of the 50’s and 60’s. The center console mounted ignition switch was a safety feature (in crash tests it was shown that people hit their knees on the ignition). The two stroke inline 3s and later turbo models were a good way to increase power without increasing engine size. Most of these things make sense, they just sometimes are a bit if an unconventional way of going about it.

Gee See
Gee See
1 year ago
Reply to  Marc Fuhrman

Yes context is very important in anything remotely in the past. I often think safety laws these days and $/ economy of scale have relegated a lot of creative engineering in niche area like autosport or relatively mundane things like hooks / cubby holes etc.

Thomas Benham
Thomas Benham
1 year ago

SAAB = A stupid insignificant car company but they knew it, they owned it.

Volvo = A stupid insignificant car company but they denied it, they refused to own up to it.

Mark Tucker
Mark Tucker
1 year ago

Jeez, and Saab’s not even rare. Not like DAF or NSU or Autobianchi or Panhard. What are they teaching kids these days?

Crank Shaft
Crank Shaft
1 year ago
Reply to  Mark Tucker

Puritanism, but that’s beside the point.

Mike Harrell
Mike Harrell
1 year ago
Reply to  Mark Tucker

I don’t know where you’re getting your numbers but simply by looking out my kitchen window I see two DAFs but only one SAAB, so clearly SAABs are rarer. Also I need to wash my truck:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52802596126_36822bc552_c.jpg

Alexander Moore
Alexander Moore
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Harrell

It’s cheating if your DAFs are Volvo badged 😉

Mike Harrell
Mike Harrell
1 year ago

It does feel a bit like cheating but my subscription to Variomatic suggests otherwise. Then again, maybe they’re just saying that to get my membership fees.

https://www.dafclub.nl/

OrigamiSensei
OrigamiSensei
1 year ago

Okay, now THIS spat is about as Autopian as I could ever imagine (munches popcorn).

Jack Swansey
Jack Swansey
1 year ago

Gen-Zer here, taken home from the hospital in my parents’ 900. Shortly after that, the car was killed by a combination of a catastrophic transmission problem and a tree falling on it, but it stayed in the backyard for most of my childhood before some endlessly patient Swedish car aficionado decided it (automatic, non-turbo) would be worth his effort to get it back on the road.

I miss that Saab, and I miss Saab.

Neomancer Nz
Neomancer Nz
1 year ago
Reply to  Jack Swansey

That is quite a combination

World24
World24
1 year ago

I don’t know what you expected with:

he doesn’t know enough about Model T’s, Dusenbergs, Buick Park Avenues, or whatever old people cars you all drive.

but I have a feeling it’s supposed to be a Duesy.
Yeah, I’ll see myself out on that one.

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