Do you like words? I sure do. Why, I even use them on a regular basis in my career, which involves taking words from a large, disorganized bin, running them through the verbal refiner machine, and then arranging them into strings known as “sentences” on a large board, shifting their order incessantly until they form semi-coherent thoughts at least tangentially related to cars or other forms of mechanized transport. It can be rewarding work, and it’s part of a long tradition of similar work, such as the work of people who arranged words for car ads.
I found an example of such a word-heavy car ad from 1965, and it’s an interesting one. It’s interesting for a number of reasons, which I’ve already hinted at in that headline. It’s an ad from 1965 for Land Rover, and is poking fun, rather directly and pointedly, at a very well-known Rolls-Royce ad. We’ll dig into that part first before I really get into wondering what the hell “panty mutter” means in the context of a car ad, especially one that quotes Of Mice and Men author John Steinbeck.
Here’s the ad I’m talking about:
Image: Land Rover
If you’re not familiar with the Rolls-Royce ad that this ad parodies, it’s kind of a puzzling ad. Carmakers weren’t generally crowing about how loud their cars were in the mid-’60s. The goals were generally refinement, and refinement meant quiet. That was what Rolls-Royce was bragging about when they ran this ad, the one that I suspect you’ve heard the tagline from before:
Image: Rolls-Royce
“At 60 miles an hour the loudest noise in this new Rolls-Royce comes from the electric clock.”
That’s a pretty famous bit of automotive advertising, and, if we all accept that that electric clock was not running off a dynamo powered by a two-stroke diesel engine in the glovebox, then that car must be quiet, quite quiet indeed. This ad copy was written by the famous David Ogilvy, of the Bernbach & Ogilvy firm, who were known for clever, iconoclastic ads like these.
The format of the ad is interesting as well: a numbered list, each noting a particular notable trait about this extremely esteemed and refined automobile. The whole ad has an air of intelligent sophistication, witty and smart and understated.
It’s the exact same format, but about a car that’s essentially at the opposite extreme of refinement: a Land Rover. An unashamedly loud and unabashedly mechanical vehicle, all about utility and almost nothing about refinement. At 60 mph, you hear the engine in your Land Rover, as hashem and John Steinbeck (see the first part of the ad, where Steinbeck says “I don’t know a driver who doesn’t want to hear his engine“) agree is important. Not the damn clock.
The whole ad follows the same numbered-list format of the Rolls-Royce ad, and even includes a cheeky little send up of the inset pair of grilles seen in the Rolls-Royce ad:
Image: Rolls-Royce
This bit is interesting, because of how open Rolls-Royce is that the Bentley is essentially the same car, sans the trademark grille. Also, only $300 less for the Bentley? That comes to about $3,200 today. That’s not that much of a difference? Especially when you figure that a Rolls back in 1965 was worth about $200,000 in today’s money.
Anyway, look what the Land Rover ad did in place of the Rolls/Bentley grille thing:
Image: Land Rover
Two grilles again, but one shows the spare tire on top, one doesn’t. The ad copy is especially clever because it uses the exact same affected language – “if you feel diffident” – as the Rolls-Royce ad, but here we’re talking about a difference of, in today’s money, under $80 bucks.
This is funny stuff! Subtle, funny stuff. And to understand it, you’d have to expect that your audience was already familiar with that very specific Rolls-Royce ad, but I suppose one could expect an audience of mid-’60s magazine readers in the UK would be.
There’s another version of the ad that calls out the original Rolls-Royce ad specifically, and brings in a third car to the party as well:
Image: Land Rover
Here the ad references how Ford tested their 1965 LTD against a Rolls and found that the Ford was actually quieter, which is a hell of a coup. Here’s one of Ford’s commercials about that:
This section of ad is so damn clever and witty, I’m just going to quote it here for you:
” 1. You may recall that Rolls-Royce once ran an advertisement. It revealed that their admirable two-wheel drive vehicle was so quiet an electric clock could drown it out.
2. Then, quite recently, Ford advertised that it “rides quieter than a Rolls-Royce!” This after a series of thorough tests (they bought two brand new Rollses) to get “evidence that no one, however skeptical, could shrug off.”
3. It was thoughtful of Ford to do the testing, for it is not something the average consumer can check for himself. How many people have a Rolls for a second car?
4. Unfortunately, the whole thing was a tragie mistake, counter-claimwise. For Bolls-Royce had said nothing about being quieter than Ford. All they claimed was that they were quieter than their own electrie clock going 60 miles an hour. (“But Officer, I was only doing ten after five.”)
5. However, all is not lost. Since our four-wheel drive vehicle (8 speeds forward, 2 in reverse) is actually much londer than the Rolls’s electric clock-or Big Ben, for that mutter — we have decided to give Ford a fresh start by offering the Land-Rover for comparison.
6. The claim then: “THE 1965 FORD RIDES QUIETER THAN A LAND-ROVER!” They are welcome to use this in their advertising. If they’d like to do some tests first wed be delighted to sell them two Land-Rovers. We’ll give them a nice trade-in on those two Rollses if they’re still on the lot.
7. Nor is this claim true only at 60 miles an hour. A Land-Rover is more conspicuous even when it is standing still. With the ignition off
8. The Land-Rover stands nearly even feet tall. All its features tend to heroic proportion. When driving you will simply loom over traffic, which is at once safe and enjoyable.
9. It is built to withstand the full charge of a bull rhinoceros and is often used for this purpose, though not in North America.
10. The Land-Rover’s sturdiness of construction (the under-frame resembles a reinforced section of railway track) makes it ideal for trackless wastes, carpools of small children, wretched ordeals, etc.
This is gold! The “But Officer, I was only doing ten after five” line? Gold. The bull rhino bit? Gold. The small children/wretched ordeals bit? Gold!
Okay, we finally need to get to the part of this whole ad that I can’t figure out. This bit:
Let’s zoom in on that little box. Computer! Zoom, and enhancellate!
Image: Land Rover
Okay, so Land Rover is taking a moment to plug its sister brand, Rover, even before both would end up as part of British Leyland in 1968. Again we have a quote from John Steinbeck, who talks about the sound of the Rover 2000 Sports Sedan, which he notes has
“a little panty mutter when idling that rises to a whispering roar…”
What the hell is he talking about? What is a “panty mutter?”
Of course, I tried Googling the phrase, but all I got were ads for maternity underwear. Was “panty mutter” an expression of some kind? Like a combination of something like a horse whisperer and a panty dropper?
But then I realized that the Brits are far more likely to use “knickers” for “panty” which may mean that it’s not referring to underwear at all! Maybe it just means panty like, you know, someone panting, in the breathing sense?
But John Steinbeck was American? Though I suppose that doesn’t preclude him from making an adjective out of the word “pant” by adding that wild vowel-curious letter “y” to the end. So maybe he does mean a low, barely audible breathing-like sound?
I guess that makes more sense than the underwear reading. Still, it’s weird, right?
I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on this whole panty mutter matter, if you don’t mind?
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Please Help Me Figure Out What The Hell “Panty Mutter” Means
I will not.
Andy Individual
20 hours ago
Like Rolls, Rover also refused to quote HP numbers and would only officially say “Inadequate”.
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I’m trying
20 hours ago
Weird sentence but I immediately thought of my long dead Volvo164e and the sound it made at idle. Not exactly a wheeze because it promised a good rip up through the gears.
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PlatinumZJ
21 hours ago
Is it “panty” like a brachycephalic dog’s breathing? That’s an interesting but appropriate adjective to go with “mutter.”
Or this is some obscure British insult, and we need to consult Goth Uncle Adrian for details.
"Redneck" Mark
22 hours ago
I think panty mutter is when you’re out of clean underwear so you borrow a pair of your wife’s/girlfriend’s panties and the people at work find out about it and mutter about your panties behind your back. “Did you hear the panty mutter about Bob?”
I’m going out on a limb here and saying Steinbecks mother was lactose intolerant and she farted a lot. Those underpowered British motors did sound farty
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Sad Little Boxster
23 hours ago
Everyone calm down and y’all get your hormones in check. It’s all in the emphasis. It’s panty mutter, not panty mutter…
Clearly in 1965 Land Rover’s ad agency had had the pleasure of experiencing the first Taco Bell, which opened in 1962. And of course, the pleasure of experiencing the phenomenon of panty mutter that happens soon afterwards.
The two-stroke diesel that powered the dynamo that powered the clock (talk about money-no-object engineering!) was installed between the rear seats. In the Silver Cloud it had its’ own dedicated exhaust system, in the Silver Shadow that was costed out to just dump it into the tailpipe.
Is it because the glove box latch isn’t actuated by a servo controlled from the touch screen?
Hoonicus
23 hours ago
Natalie Harp ?
Jeff H
1 day ago
AI says:
Panty mutter: A soft, low, slightly uneven mechanical rumble or chattering sound at idle.
Whispering roar: The deeper, more pronounced engine noise as the vehicle accelerates through the lower gears.
It’s evocative, rather than technical language. The copywriter is essentially inviting the reader to appreciate the distinctive sound of the Land Rover engine.
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MondialMatt
1 day ago
Yes, you’re overthinking it. It’s a muttering sound that sounds like it’s panting.
That’s precisely what I got when googling the phrase.
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Burt Curry
1 day ago
Since it’s typically women who wear panties, and since women don’t fart, they pass air or gas; it’s got to be related to the sound or volume of sound of a woman (not) farting!
Rob Stercraw
1 day ago
60’s panty mutter = modern day queef
Bronco2CombustionBoogaloo
1 day ago
Yeah I think it just means at idle it has a repetitive little pant-like exhaust note, like a happy dog?
Something like that. However, The idea of a man in a dirty raincoat talking under his breath about some voluminous bloomers on a washing line seems so much more British.
I think you are thinking of toe jam or Froemuender cheese.
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Jonathan Green
1 day ago
If you have some panty mutter, you need to see your gynecologist.
Sid Bridge
1 day ago
Me, doing laundry: …
Muttering sound from the dresser drawer: Does this guy even know how to fold? And am I even stacked in the right place in this drawer? And how long did it take for him to pull me out of the dryer because I don’t feel like I smell fresh… and are those orange socks? Are they new? Who the hell bought them?
Me, looking back at the drawer, eying a pair of my wife’s panties: …
My wife’s panties: …
Me: Honey?!
My wife’s panties, muttering: asshole…
Me: Honey?! I think you’ve got some panty mutter!
My wife: Again? Get them out of the dryer faster next time!
The panties: her again? Good grief, if I have to be pulled out of this drawer and put back in three times again…
I prefer the Bill Engval episode.
Folding panties, sees a very sexy pair, says to his wife I haven’t seen you in these before.
Wife responds those are your daughters panties
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ESO
1 day ago
Girl talk! (says the 15 year old boy I was in the 1980’s that lives perpetually inside my head… 🙂
Last edited 1 day ago by ESO
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Canopysaurus
1 day ago
Panty mutter sounds like it’s describing a fart.
Otherwise, your supposition that panty is an adjective designed to evoke a repetitive breathy respiration sound combined with a mutter, a low, rumbling sound to describe the Rover exhaust note at idle is likely correct. Steinbeck probably heard a lot of panty mutter in his travels with Charlie.
I will not.
Like Rolls, Rover also refused to quote HP numbers and would only officially say “Inadequate”.
Weird sentence but I immediately thought of my long dead Volvo164e and the sound it made at idle. Not exactly a wheeze because it promised a good rip up through the gears.
Is it “panty” like a brachycephalic dog’s breathing? That’s an interesting but appropriate adjective to go with “mutter.”
Or this is some obscure British insult, and we need to consult Goth Uncle Adrian for details.
I think panty mutter is when you’re out of clean underwear so you borrow a pair of your wife’s/girlfriend’s panties and the people at work find out about it and mutter about your panties behind your back. “Did you hear the panty mutter about Bob?”
You’re overthinking this…
Panty munter would have been much funner.
It’s the grammatical feminine of pantaloon putter.
A “panty Mutter” is the housemarm for women’s dorm floors at German universities, which is a fact I just made up.
that’s good facting
I’m going out on a limb here and saying Steinbecks mother was lactose intolerant and she farted a lot. Those underpowered British motors did sound farty
Everyone calm down and y’all get your hormones in check. It’s all in the emphasis. It’s panty mutter, not panty mutter…
Like “Levy-OH-Suh”.
You put the emPHAsis on the wrong SYLlable.
Clearly in 1965 Land Rover’s ad agency had had the pleasure of experiencing the first Taco Bell, which opened in 1962. And of course, the pleasure of experiencing the phenomenon of panty mutter that happens soon afterwards.
Not quite – you’re thinking of the phenomenon known as panty mudder.
I regret to say I am no longer interested in acquiring a Silver Cloud.
The two-stroke diesel that powered the dynamo that powered the clock (talk about money-no-object engineering!) was installed between the rear seats. In the Silver Cloud it had its’ own dedicated exhaust system, in the Silver Shadow that was costed out to just dump it into the tailpipe.
Is it because the glove box latch isn’t actuated by a servo controlled from the touch screen?
Natalie Harp ?
AI says:
It’s evocative, rather than technical language. The copywriter is essentially inviting the reader to appreciate the distinctive sound of the Land Rover engine.
Yes, you’re overthinking it. It’s a muttering sound that sounds like it’s panting.
That’s precisely what I got when googling the phrase.
Since it’s typically women who wear panties, and since women don’t fart, they pass air or gas; it’s got to be related to the sound or volume of sound of a woman (not) farting!
60’s panty mutter = modern day queef
Yeah I think it just means at idle it has a repetitive little pant-like exhaust note, like a happy dog?
Something like that. However, The idea of a man in a dirty raincoat talking under his breath about some voluminous bloomers on a washing line seems so much more British.
Syd Barrett wrote a song about it, very true
Panty mutter is the German sister of antimatter.
If your crotch cooler is on the fritz, you might suffer from a bout of panty mutter.
That’s “panty butter”. Different thing.
I think you are thinking of toe jam or Froemuender cheese.
If you have some panty mutter, you need to see your gynecologist.
Me, doing laundry: …
Muttering sound from the dresser drawer: Does this guy even know how to fold? And am I even stacked in the right place in this drawer? And how long did it take for him to pull me out of the dryer because I don’t feel like I smell fresh… and are those orange socks? Are they new? Who the hell bought them?
Me, looking back at the drawer, eying a pair of my wife’s panties: …
My wife’s panties: …
Me: Honey?!
My wife’s panties, muttering: asshole…
Me: Honey?! I think you’ve got some panty mutter!
My wife: Again? Get them out of the dryer faster next time!
The panties: her again? Good grief, if I have to be pulled out of this drawer and put back in three times again…
I prefer the Bill Engval episode.
Folding panties, sees a very sexy pair, says to his wife I haven’t seen you in these before.
Wife responds those are your daughters panties
Girl talk! (says the 15 year old boy I was in the 1980’s that lives perpetually inside my head… 🙂
Panty mutter sounds like it’s describing a fart.
Otherwise, your supposition that panty is an adjective designed to evoke a repetitive breathy respiration sound combined with a mutter, a low, rumbling sound to describe the Rover exhaust note at idle is likely correct. Steinbeck probably heard a lot of panty mutter in his travels with Charlie.
I hate when I think I have a panty mutter that ends up being a shart.
I’d be surprised if Adrian Clarke didn’t know this.
Adrian would have you know he causes panty flutters, not mutters.