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Why Some Geniuses Are Installing Jeep Gladiator Parts On Old Jeep Comanches

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When the Jeep Gladiator debuted at the 2018 Los Angeles Auto Show, it sparked a renewed interest in the Jeep pickup that preceded it: the Comanche. Though some liked the new Gladiator, others panned the awkward rear door shared with the Wrangler, the strange look from the rear three-quarter angle, and above all: The lack of a long-bed, regular cab model. “That’s not a real truck, that’s just a Wrangler with a tiny bed. The Comanche is so much better!” was the type of sentiment you’d commonly see on the internet around that time. Even today, many diehard Comanche fans loathe the Gladiator, but some have changed their minds, in part, because the Gladiator has given back to its forefather. Here’s what I mean.

The Jeep Comanche is actually quite similar to the Gladiator in that they are both truck-ified versions of a four-door, high-volume family off-roader. I often tell people that the modern Jeep “XJ” Cherokee is not actually the new Cherokee, but rather the four-door Wrangler. And if that’s the case, then the modern version of the Jeep Comanche is the Jeep Gladiator. Both are compromised, not built-from-the-ground-up pickup trucks. And both have their dedicated fanbases.

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The Comanche lived a reasonably long life, hitting the market for the 1986 model year and continuing until 1992 — that’s seven model years, which is more than the first-gen Grand Cherokee. Still, the issue for current owners isn’t model-years, it’s volume. Per Good Car Bad Car, Jeep only sold about 175,000 unibody-ish trucks between 1985 and 1992, and with every Comanche (like its XJ sibling) struggling to handle any amount of road salt without fading into brown powder, the Comanche has become quite rare today. (By comparison, Jeep sold 2.8 million Jeep Cherokee XJs — that’s over 15 times more).

Jeep Comanche Rear Bumpers And Taillights Are Unobtainium

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If you ask any Jeep Comanche owner about parts availability, their reply will likely be: “Depends on what half of the truck you’re talking about.”

The Jeep “MJ” Comanche’s front half is exactly the same as the Jeep Cherokee XJ’s. Same engine options, same cooling system, same doors, same hood, same fenders, same body structure — it’s all the same. But at the B-Pillar, things change.

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If you need Jeep Comanche front-end parts, that’s no problem. Even interior components — sans maybe a bench seat, the cab-back trim, and the headliner — are totally interchangeable. But the bed is hen’s teeth, and what’s worse is that so are the taillights and rear bumper.

My former boss at Chrysler used to talk about his dad’s minty 1992 Jeep Comanche. “Yeah, someone hit his rear bumper. We cannot find a replacement,” he told me for the entire two years I worked as an engineer. I’m not sure he ever did find a replacement bumper. They’re simply unobtainium, which is why you see forum posts like “Poll: Does your MJ have the original rear bumper?” and the post “NOS Factory rear bumper” in which the person who found what appears to have been the final New Old-Stock rear bumper on earth celebrated by writing: “Ohmygod Ohmygod Ohmygod Ohmygod!!! My hands started shaking.” That’s how rare these bumpers are.

The taillights are also insanely rare, since they’re made of cheap plastic that degrades in the sun, and since they’re Jeep Comanche-specific units that were never reproduced. That is to say: If you get  hit in the rear of your Jeep Comanche, you’re pretty well screwed.

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Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
1 month ago

“when you can just install cheap, ubiquitous JL/JT taillights? [UPDATE: Actually they’re JK lights, but JL/JT ones are coming, ZimmDakIndustries has said in the comments. -DT].”
JK, they’re actually JL/JT.
(Yeah, every time I read about things Jeep JK my mind keeps registering it as Jeep just kidding as if people don’t consider them to be real Jeeps)
https://media1.tenor.com/m/KfHX90WIL4gAAAAd/just-kidding-airplane.gif

Last edited 1 month ago by Collegiate Autodidact
Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago

Seems like Volvo 740 760 940 960 wagon taillights would be a closer fit.
Or maybe Chevrolet celebrity wagon taillights?

Fred Fedurch
Fred Fedurch
1 month ago

Had a Comanche Chief back in the 90s. One fun truck. The 4L – 6 was a beast motor.

If you search YouTube there’s videos of the Trans Am race in Niagara Falls, NY in 88 (was there watching it in person). The firsts video has coverage of the truck race, and the Archer Brothers’ Comanches cleaned up. It was one of the reasons I bought the truck.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPRSftuMtV_O7xcrUFtKMwG15YE0ggoYC3BYv-c8GGBL-ijurvPgif422kQek_Maf-Vqjyw8vAyod4SF-tf2wMQLsj8erCWL-BPym0HpxG1izzNwhdglwcacbAOAT1dNIhtEsb2rbi42WfWgJkuhObaOA=w1382-h905-s-no-gm?authuser=0

Last edited 1 month ago by Fred Fedurch
Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
1 month ago

I’m actually surprised they wouldn’t use the same bumpers as the XJ

They could’ve even used the same tail lights if they really wanted to. They probably shared tail lights between a pickup and a wagony thing (SUV, minivan, whatever).

I did find these LED Comanche tail lights on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/186098088221

You can probably find a bumper on Alibaba/Aliexpress LOL

If something happens to the bed where it needs to be replaced, just get rid of the bed and convert it to a stake truck, dump truck, RV, or any other use

TheBarber
TheBarber
1 month ago
Reply to  Dogisbadob

Yea Oracle is the only game in town. I remember when they were trying to see if there was interest on the ComancheClub forums several years back. I will say I am happy to see a lot of things for these trucks coming back into production thanks to dedicated forum members and a few 3d printers. A few guys making bumper conversion brackets and bumper kits as well. Pretty sure both the JT tailight mod and bumper originated on the forums. I finally have my ’91 MJ 5 speed back and I’ll probably dive into it more next year bringing it back to life. Maybe I’ll post about it on Oppo, maybe not, we’ll see lol

Fred Fedurch
Fred Fedurch
1 month ago
Reply to  TheBarber

There is a Facebook group. I’m on it.

Mrbrown89
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Mrbrown89
1 month ago

Wait so this was the introduction to the article of later today? I see what you did here lol nice truck btw

Shooting Brake
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Shooting Brake
1 month ago

A Comanche article so I’m here for my obligatory “I still really miss my ‘90 Eliminator.” Even if it was a 2wd automatic, great little truck. But like most, more rust than I could do anything about.

Fred Fedurch
Fred Fedurch
1 month ago
Reply to  Shooting Brake

Same here. 10 Southern Ontario winters and it was terminal.

Last edited 1 month ago by Fred Fedurch
1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago

Hey great article,fun stuff. I am wondering though what has happened to the silly stuff. Don’t get me wrong all the articles on the site everyday are informative but I must have missed the silly articles. Best food to eat in a car, shower spaghetti. Top Gear didn’t succeed because doing the same old car talk, and Autopian hasn’t succeeded on basic coverage. Let’s see some silly. I know DT has a family but hey find a new person of interest. Hire an intern and pretend to abuse him. Let’s have a good laugh. IMHO

The Artist Formerly Known as the Uncouth Sloth
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The Artist Formerly Known as the Uncouth Sloth
1 month ago

sometimes wishes are granted

ZimmDakIndustries
ZimmDakIndustries
1 month ago

Thanks so much for the feature in the article! It’s awesome to see so much love for the Comanche still.

Just wanted to clarify the spelling ZimmDakIndustries and that the adapters currently only support the JK Wrangler lights. JT/JL light support is in progress and should be available soon! We also have factory housings that should be back in stock on our website soon as well.

M SV
M SV
1 month ago

I guess there is a stock of take off’s from the mall crawlers out there. Maybe a heap behind 4 wheel parts or similar place instead of the normal service or flat bed places you find take offs of other pickups.

Eggsalad
Eggsalad
1 month ago

The bumper thing is neat, but it’s pretty much a flat and straight bumper, so I would imagine there a myriad of bumpers in this style that could be swapped over with about as many modifications as the Gladiator bumper requires.

JurassicComanche25
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JurassicComanche25
1 month ago

GOOD NEWS! Comanche taillights are now being reproduced too!

I really like the gladiator bumper on the rears

Gubbin
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Gubbin
1 month ago
Reply to  David Tracy

Looks like Oracle Lights are making LED replacements. https://www.oraclelights.com/blogs/news/mj

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  David Tracy

3d printers DT. Have a small child explain it to you

JurassicComanche25
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JurassicComanche25
1 month ago
Reply to  David Tracy

Yup! Key Parts, they sell them on Ebay (Factory style ones, not LED- the lens only, or the whole light). You can get the all red, back, or silver trim. They also just started reproducing the tailgate handles.

Last edited 1 month ago by JurassicComanche25
pizzaman09
pizzaman09
1 month ago

As the owner of a Comanche and active member of the Comanche Club forum, I can agree with much of what was said in this article. There are certain MJ specific parts that are very hard to get. Beyond factory tail lights and rear bumpers, rear springs are challenging as the Comanche runs spring under axle with much longer springs than an XJ which uses a shorter spring over axle setup .
The awesome thing about owning a Comanche is it is a rare vehicle with awesome parts support due to the 2.8million XJs made. Estimates say there are about 18k Comanches still road registered. What is even more awesome is aftermarket parts support has never been better, Key Parts makes all the important body panels, there are now some after market direct fit tail lights, and most anything aftermarket XJ fits and MJ. Westin Fey makes a nice rear bumper for them, my 1990 Comanche Eliminator has one and it works great.

Man With A Reliable Jeep
Man With A Reliable Jeep
1 month ago
Reply to  David Tracy

Wait, what? I didn’t expect you to just drop that truth bomb on us from out of nowhere.

Fire Ball
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Fire Ball
1 month ago
Reply to  David Tracy

It better be a rust-free Southwest example.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  David Tracy

Hey DT have you ever considered letting the Autopian members do a search for you to get your best options?

Amberturnsignalsarebetter
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Amberturnsignalsarebetter
1 month ago
Reply to  David Tracy

Have you offloaded the J10 yet?

Matt Hardigree
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Matt Hardigree
1 month ago

THIS IS THE CORRECT QUESTION!!!!

I don't hate manual transmissions
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I don't hate manual transmissions
1 month ago
Reply to  Matt Hardigree

I’m reminded of those Geico “young homeowners turning into their parents” commercials. David needs a car collector version of Rick. Mercedes too, for that matter. (Love you both!)

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago

No those are awful. I assume many people left GEICO after being insulted. Not as bad as the marketing director of Hud Light causing billions of dollars lost but little league version

The Artist Formerly Known as the Uncouth Sloth
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The Artist Formerly Known as the Uncouth Sloth
1 month ago

scene: Rick and second gentleman watch DT sorting out his WWII Jeep parts he bought off of eBay

“….believe it or not, he’s made progress.”

“Oh. Really?”

Utherjorge, who is quite angry about the baby FJ
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Utherjorge, who is quite angry about the baby FJ
1 month ago
Reply to  David Tracy

DAVID

JDE
JDE
1 month ago

Have to wonder how many of each are buried in the scrap piles out back from the truggy builds over the years.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  JDE

Rusted and unusable

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 month ago

Now, that’s what I call a bumper crop.

Nycbjr
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Nycbjr
1 month ago

having owned a ’87 4cyl Commanche I love seeing this! Keep em going!

also I like the 3d printed adapters, the tail lights look decent! and the bumper looks great, I wonder where they are getting the new stock?

Hazdazos
Hazdazos
1 month ago

Love to see this.

3D printing will save the classic car market.

What the OEMs won’t give us or have long abandoned, bored engineers looking for a side hustle will.

I’m working on a add-on for my truck to give it a feature that it didn’t come with from the factory. Figure if I want it bad enough to spend some of my free time and energy on, then maybe a few dozen others will as well. Getting real close to releasing it.

Westboundbiker
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Westboundbiker
1 month ago
Reply to  Hazdazos

I 3d printed an overhead console for my project car!
And speaker mounts!
And dash parts!

And I’m going to have to figure out quite a few more soon.

It’s great fun owning a 3 model year car… From a brand that hasn’t existed for almost 40 years…

Hazdazos
Hazdazos
1 month ago
Reply to  Westboundbiker

I’m right there with you with a 60 year old car that ran for only 3 model years and had a bespoke platform just for it – no other division shared this platform. But most of the 3D printing stuff I am doing these days is for my 3 year old truck that are more convenience stuff. The only part that sucks is designing stuff all day at work and then having no energy to continue doing the same on personal projects after work.

Bram Oude Elberink
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Bram Oude Elberink
1 month ago
Reply to  Hazdazos

I find myself in the opposite situation, or at least I prefer to design and 3d print stuff for my personal projects over the professional design and engineering I do for a living

Hazdazos
Hazdazos
1 month ago

Oh I MUCH prefer designing my own stuff, but its hard to motivate myself to continue to sit in front of Solidworks after doing it for work all day. You just get burnt out.

Stupid bills and money getting in the way of my fun.

Bram Oude Elberink
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Bram Oude Elberink
1 month ago
Reply to  Hazdazos

Oh yes, I now get wat you mean. Yes, very recognizable. Because the personal projects most of the time are mostly modelling in Solidworks, which I really like to do, I tend to start and work on them when I am stuck with the difficult professional stuff where I have to (re)think about the problems. Helps to clear the mind.

OrigamiSensei
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OrigamiSensei
1 month ago
Reply to  Hazdazos

I designed (well, replicated the original piece as well as I could) and 3D printed wiper nozzle covers for my Jaguar. It was much better than struggling to find the original pieces and overpaying.

I agree that 3D printing is a major boon to keeping old cars going.

Hazdazos
Hazdazos
1 month ago
Reply to  OrigamiSensei

That’s awesome. First comes replicating existing parts, and then comes making brand new designs that never existed when these cars were new. One of the bigger projects I’m working on is making new clamshell headlight housings for my ’64 Buick Riv that only existed on the ’65. The parts are different enough that I need to come up with a whole new mechanism to do it. I just haven’t found time to work on it in ages.

Thomas The Tank Engine
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Thomas The Tank Engine
1 month ago

Great way to adapt parts. The 3D printing is great.

Bob the Hobo
Bob the Hobo
1 month ago

Now convince them to try using the Gladiator bed for short builds instead of chopping down the increasingly rare Comanche beds.

Bearddevil
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Bearddevil
1 month ago

The ubiquity of 3d printers is a boon for modifications like the taillights. Though they’ll definitely want to paint them to protect the plastic from UV degradation.

Beachbumberry
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Beachbumberry
1 month ago
Reply to  Bearddevil

Yes! Asa would be a good option too

Westboundbiker
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Westboundbiker
1 month ago
Reply to  Bearddevil

It may be petg. It prints almost as easy as PLA, and holds up well in outdoor and moderate heat applications.

Rippstik
Rippstik
1 month ago

Both somehow make the Commanche better looking, IMO. Modernizes it a hair. Mix that with a color matched front clip from a later XJ and we are in business!

Man With A Reliable Jeep
Man With A Reliable Jeep
1 month ago

The timing of this article is remarkable. I recently swapped the OEM taillights on my Gladiator for flush-mount LEDs. Why? To make it look more like the Comanche!

Doughnaut
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Doughnaut
1 month ago

For the amount of work they are doing to get this stuff to fit, it seems odd to call them a genius by using Gladiator parts. They could have used parts from a ’24 Bronco and they would have fit just as well…

M. Park Hunter
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M. Park Hunter
1 month ago

Dang it. I miss the old stick-shift, straight-six Comanches. I’d like to love the Gladiator, but somehow it’s both too big and too small.

Bearddevil
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Bearddevil
1 month ago
Reply to  M. Park Hunter

It’s the reverse-TARDIS effect of modern “utility” vehicles. They have less space on the inside than the outside would indicate. Lots of bulk and intrusion into the passenger and cargo space.

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1 month ago
Reply to  Bearddevil

It isn’t just utility vehicles. A compact sedan from 20 years ago manages to have both more rear head and leg room than many midsize sedans of today. No wonder everyone started buying crossovers.

UnseenCat
UnseenCat
1 month ago

I feel like we hit peak packaging somewhere around the year 2000 and into the 2010s. It had gotten a lot better before then, especially with the Japanese imports showing the way to building smaller cars with better interior room.

JDE
JDE
1 month ago
Reply to  UnseenCat

2000 Chrysler LHS Had both a massive Trunk and a very spacious interior. to me that was the most space for a vehicle envelope that I have ever experienced.

I don't hate manual transmissions
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I don't hate manual transmissions
1 month ago
Reply to  JDE

Those had what a buddy of mine called “six body trunks”. He was into ’60s Oldsmobiles, which had similarly sized caverns out back.

JDE
JDE
1 month ago

indeed. honestly if they were still around you could take off the trunk lid and give a Ford Maverick a run for it’s money.

JDE
JDE
1 month ago
Reply to  M. Park Hunter

I think for me it is the rear overhang and failure to give it a midgate. If any vehicle is best suited for the transformer on the fly lifestyle. a Wrangler based truck is.

pizzaman09
pizzaman09
1 month ago
Reply to  M. Park Hunter

This is why I own a 90 Comanche Eliminator, it’s a 6 ft bed 4.0L 4×4 manual truck. I like the Gladiator but I don’t want a vehicle that large with that small of a bed. If Jeep would make a 2 door Gladiator with a 6 or 6.5ft bed and a stick, I’d put my money where my mouth is and order one immediately.

Marques Dean
Marques Dean
1 month ago
Reply to  pizzaman09

And some customers have been hounding Jeep/Stellantis for such a model for YEARS,going so far as to look at previous Wrangler conversions offered by aftermarket companies.

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