It must be tough naming cars. You have a whole history of old names, some of which have been retired, and recycling one of them must feel a lot easier than coming up with something new. But if you choose a name for a car that customers don’t feel is worthy of that name, you’ll hear about it. Today we’re going to look at two cars a half a century apart with the same name, and pretty much the same mission.
I was worried yesterday about putting up a non-drivable car against one that’s ready to go. When I’ve done that in the past, the running and driving car invariably wins, unless the non-runner is something extraordinary. Apparently, a first-generation Honda Civic doesn’t cut it. The much newer Honda Fit absolutely clobbered it.


The ad for the Fit is gone, so the market must have felt the same. And I have to agree. I’m having crap luck with my own project cars recently, so the idea of taking on another makes me want to run in the other direction as well, as adorable as those old Civics are. Besides, I remember test-driving a Fit when they were new, and really liking it.
I remember back in the mid 1990s when a friend of mine who worked at a Chevrolet dealership told me excitedly, “They’re bringing back the Malibu!” Then I saw the car. No, they weren’t bringing back the Malibu; they were bringing back the Malibu name. But if you think about it, the purpose of the 1970s Chevy Malibu was very much the same as the 1990s one: basic, honest transportation for four or five people and some stuff in the trunk. Yes, some of the old ones had big engines, and others had big engines installed in them after the fact, but that wasn’t really the point of the car. It was meant to be a simple workhorse.
That’s why when Dodge brought back the Dart nameplate for 2013, I didn’t get riled up about it like some people did. You can’t get upset about the new Dart (or Malibu) not being rear-wheel-drive with a V8 and a straight axle, because no cars are like that anymore. Technology moves on, but the primary mission of the car remains the same. So let’s check out a 60s Dart, and then one from nearly fifty years later, and see just how similar, and how different, they really are.
1964 Dodge Dart 270 – $3,000

Engine/drivetrain: 225 cubic inch OHV inline 6, three-speed automatic, RWD
Location: Sacramento, CA
Odometer reading: 54,000 miles (probably rolled over)
Operational status: Runs and drives well
The Dart name was first used in 1960, on the cheapest version of Dodge’s full-size line. In 1962, it got smaller, then in 1963 smaller again, sharing its platform with the Plymouth Valiant. The two cars would get more and more similar from that point forward, until the final 1976 models were basically identical except for the grille. But back in 1964, the Dart and Valiant had distinct personalities and styling. This is the Dart 270, the mid-tier model.

The fabled Slant Six was part of the Dart recipe from the beginning. In 1964, both 170 and 225 cubic inch versions were available; I’m making an educated guess that this one is the 225, since the ad doesn’t specify. It’s backed by Chrysler’s excellent Torqueflite automatic, with pushbutton controls. You can see the buttons on the left side of the dash in the photo above. The pushbutton system was cable-operated, which I didn’t realize until I started researching it. I always assumed it was vacuum-controlled. This car runs and drives well, and has current registration.

It’s amazing how simple these old interiors are compared to modern cars: a long straight bench seat, no seatbelts, and thanks to the pushbutton transmission, not even a shift lever to get in the way. It’s in good condition, though it’s impossible to say how much of it is original, or how many times it’s been redone over the years.

Outside, it’s straight, but very faded. So faded, in fact, that it’s a totally different color on one side than it is on the other. You can see the original color in the door jambs in the photo above. There is a little rust here and there, but it looks like it’s just surface rust. The paint is beyond saving, so your options are a repaint, or live with it as-is and embrace the patina.
2013 Dodge Dart SXT – $3,500

Engine/drivetrain: 2.0-liter DOHC inline 4, six-speed automatic, FWD
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Odometer reading: 101,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
The Dart gave way to the Aspen, which was followed by the Aries, then the Spirit, then the Stratus, then the Avenger, and then back to Dart again. Apparently Dodge can only make small sedans that start with A, S, or D. The new Dart was one of the first models introduced after Fiat bought Chrysler, and in some markets it was even sold as a Fiat. Despite its European connection, the Dart was built in Chrysler’s Belvidere assembly plant in Illinois – meaning this Dart and the one above could possibly have come from the same factory.

The Dart was available with a couple of different engines; this one has Chrysler’s version of the Global Engine Alliance four-cylinder, displacing 2.0 liters. You could get it with a manual or an automatic, both with six forward gears. Here’s where you’re probably hoping I tell you this one has the manual, but alas, no. The seller says it runs and drives great, though, and it only has 101,000 miles on it.

This is the SXT model, which was Dodge’s “base model with some extra stuff” trim level for years. Might still be, actually. It has all the stuff you’d want anyway, so there’s not really any reason to go for the GT model unless you want the bigger engine. It’s in good condition, but it looks like it might need a little cleaning. Maybe you can use that as a negotiating point.

It’s a great color; Dodge offered some good ones for the Dart, as should always be the case for inexpensive cars. The low end of the market is no place for subdued earth tones. I see a couple of dents in the hood in one photo, which might be hail damage, but if so, it’s minor and probably ignorable. Apart from that, it looks great, and again, you can use any flaws you do find to talk down the price.
There you have it: two Darts from two different decades. They share nothing but the name and seem completely different, but are they really? They’re both compact four-door sedans, with basic, reliable drivetrains and some cool (for the time) features. The only difference is fifty years of technological advances. So do they make ’em like they used to? Or do they make ’em better? I leave that up to you.
I had a friend in 4th grade whose single mom had a Dart with the push button automatic. That aspect of it caught my attention the first time I rode in it. I had never seen something like it before. My parents’ vehicles were either a parade of automatic Olds 88s or pickup trucks with a three on the tree. And my friend’s mom was quite attractive and the first divorcee I ever met. So, a lot of novelty for me at the time.
Nostalgia aside, I’d rather daily the newer one.
Old Dart. The slant 6 isn’t as good as a V8, but it has its charms. The new Dart isn’t terrible either, but it is a victim of too many compromises and design by committee. Also, the thought of a stick in the new Dart is better than the reality – even new they were vague, sloppy, and anything but satisfying to use.
I could use the new one straight away. It would fit my needs almost as well as yesterday’s Fit.
The old one, though, deserves to be repainted in the original teal and shine again. The Valiant IV version was my dad’s first car, so it could make a great gift.
Here is the real question. Given the choice between a new old stock ’64 or a new old stock ’13, which would you choose? You have to pick one to help the dealer make their numbers..
NOS ‘64 Dart? Have you been reading my mind? Where do I sign?
I have a built slant six that’s in my D150. Puts out about 180hp and will stripe the driveway, no problem. I’m pulling it to put in the 440, but I’ve already converted it over to a Holley Sniper2. The EFI made a HUGE difference in the way the slant runs, and it’s like night and day over the old 4bbl that I had on it. I would put THAT in this ’64 and rock on for another 60 years.
You should literally buy that car and execute that exact plan. And write it up.
Wow, so easy…OLD SKOOL DART!
These classics are so awesome…when I saw the ad I was impressed by how good a shape it’s in for a decent price. Yeah, the newer Darts suck…they’re still ok if you just need a car
The ’64 for nostalgia alone. My first car was a ’64 Dart, 2-door with 3 on the tree.
One of these is a project. The other is not.
My vote goes to the not-a-project 2013 Dart.
The only way I’d pay that much for a project is if it was a truly desirable car or if it was something I had an irrational love for.
I’m also not nostalgic for carbureted cars from “the good old days”. Old cars with carbs suck. I have experienced this suckiness first hand.
And an old car with a low end engine tied to an old slushbox is even worse.
Give me a more modern car with fuel injection and a modern 6 speed automatic any day and twice on Sunday.
I’ll take the 64, thank you. I have owned six or seven Darts from 64-74. Some with 318s but most had the leaning tower of power. Bullet proof motors and transmissions. Used to buy them for about $500 in sad condition. Tune-up, belts, tires and brakes and you could drive them for a couple years, get more than your money back and go buy another. Sadly, all the old folks moved on to Fairmonts, Cavaliers and Grand Marquis and they got tough to locate. You can still get a lot of the mechanical stuff from NAPA and such.
I too have lived this scenario. Then I moved to Seattle and it was Peugeot 504 and 505 diesels that occupied this niche of price/availability/indestructibility/awesomeness (and Saab 99’s, but that was my friend Dan’s jam), so I then had a string of $0 to $700 Peugeots. My neighborhood started filling in with Ethiopian immigrants (and restaurants! yum), and some of them opened a dirt cheap Peugeot shop around the corner from my house. I got a couple of used motors in good shape from them for something like $100. Also a differential one time for $25.
I had a ’71 gas 504 Automatique with 60K on the clock that I bought in ’78 for $1500 in N California. I put another 90K on it with very few problems. It got folded up to the rear wheels by a Plymouth station wagon and I got $900 from the insurance settlement.
When it did need work, I took it to a little shop in West Sacramento run by a French couple. Hearing them drift back and forth from English into French and back was totally worth what they charged me. Marcel’s. May they both RIP.
I was impressed by my 504, but some friends got a 505 and they let me drive it and the ride of that thing was incredible. I rented a 307 estate diesel/5M in France, and I wanted to bring it home with me.
I had an ’88 SAAB 9000T in Seattle and there was an independent shop on Greenwood Ave that was awesome. I don’t remember the name, but they were so competent and relatively inexpensive. I don’t know if they’re still in business, but I love shops like those two.
Guess I’ll be the psychopath that wants both! The PF has to be the best way to get a Dart: a DOHC 2L with the Hyundai 6 speed where it has none of the problems of the 1.4’s or 2.4’s! And no TFT or touchscreen!
The ’64 is similar to one I saw one day for sale in like 2012 that I still wonder about. It wasn’t that rusty (I live in CNY, so salt is a way of life up here), and it was pretty cheap.
I want that old Dart.
After a quality paint job, a retrofit AC system, seat belts, a stereo & speakers, some new tires and other maintenance, and some serape seat covers from Mexico – It will be good for another 60 years.
The newer one will be a pile of decomposing plastic inside of 10 years.
I would probably come down with clinical depression if I had to drive that new Dart on a daily basis.
Ugh! Those old Darts were so ugly. I’ll take the new one, because it’s a better looking car.
I agree about the ‘62 (actually called that one the Lancer). But the ’64? My friend (who lives in Sacramento btw) spotted a nice ‘64 4-door with red interior sitting dead in someone’s front yard. She offered them $50 I think, and I replaced the points and she drove that cat for the next ten years. That was in about 1993. I never liked them in that green color (though weirdly I actually like the color itself). But black/red, very nice looking car.
I’m choosing the Dart. I wouldn’t mind having both.
Picking the old one for the slant six and that interior. ANd it’s another one to cross off my “legendary engine” list. Somewhere my son is rolling his eyes…
This is only tangentially related, but the old Dart reminded me of a story an old college buddy related, about their similar vintage Polera.
He (high school student at the time) and his dad were discussing the Polera’s top speed. One was arguing it would barely break 100, the other said it would do at least 115, maybe 120. Things escalated to a bit of “you’re full of crap” back and forth until the mom (the recognized lead foot of the family) ducked her head in the room and asked what they were arguing about.
“Top speed of the Polera”, one said. “It’ll do 109” was her reply, and the discussion was over.
They both accepted the number as a tested and verified fact (as, apparently, it was).
60’s Polara’s were monsters. Too rich for my blood though.
Oh lordy, I had a Valiant of that era. (Column shift auto though, no buttons.) Kinda battered, powder blue. I found it embarrassing at the time but I recently saw one completely restored and realized I was a punk kid with no taste back then. Such pretty little cars when well cared for! Plus I can testify that the bench seats and a high school girlfriend are a great was to stay… relaxed on a long drive.
Funny, high school girlfriends always had the exact opposite effect on me! 🙂
Easy peasy – it’s the Dart. Normally, the lack of A/C would be a deal breaker, but there’s no way it would be a daily driver. Seat belts would have to go in as well.
I’ll take the old “Daht” and pour one out for Tom Magliozzi… We miss you, brother!
“Don’t drive like my brother!”
I will save some money and the trip to Albuquerque
Should’a taken that left turn.