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Subaru Just Fixed The Biggest Problem With The Crosstrek

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When was the last time a fairly normcore crossover gained the same sort of following enjoyed by the Subaru Crosstrek? Sure, on paper, it’s just a tall Impreza with cladding, but it has some serious ride-or-die fans, sort of like the Ford Mustang and Porsche 911. Pricing for the 2026 Crosstrek is out, and while the hybrid model seems a bit expensive, the absolute base model looks to be a far better deal for 2026 because it fixes the biggest complaint people had about the model.

If you walked into a Subaru dealer right now and looked at a base Crosstrek, you’d find a two-liter flat-four under the hood making 152 horsepower and 145 lb.-ft. of torque. Those wouldn’t be bad numbers for a relatively light compact sedan, but not only are we looking at a vehicle with a curb weight of nearly 3,300 pounds, we’re also talking about a non-hybrid vehicle with a price tag of $27,980 including freight. That’s a decent chunk of change for something rated at 27 MPG city, 34 MPG highway, and 29 MPG combined while requiring more than nine seconds to reach 60 mph from a standing start.

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If you’re willing to wait until the 2026 model rolls into showrooms, however, the base Crosstrek will have significantly more power. Come autumn, the 2.5-liter, 182-horsepower flat-four from higher trim levels will be standard even on the most affordable model. Not only is this powertrain rated identically to the two-liter for city and combined fuel economy, but it only gives up a single mile-per-gallon on the highway for an extra 30 horsepower and 33 lb.-ft. of torque. Since that torque peak kicks in at a lower engine speed, not only are we looking at more than a second cleaved out of the zero-to-60 mph time, the 2.5-liter powertrain is also a more refined experience than the outgoing two-liter unit.

Of course, pricing has risen with the new powertrain, but not by much. The base 2026 Subaru Crosstrek stickers for $28,415 including freight, a mere $435 more than the 2025 equivalent with the smaller engine. Subaru’s also throwing in a few other goodies like push-to-start and rear side airbags with the 2026 base model, which makes it absolutely seem worth the wait.

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Speaking of waiting, the Crosstrek Hybrid is also almost here, with an Atkinson-cycle 2.5-liter flat-four and two electric motors, one in the transaxle and one acting as a starter-generator combo. With a total system output of 194 horsepower and mechanical all-wheel-drive, it’s a tempting formula, but it’s going to cost you. The least expensive Crosstrek Hybrid builds on the Sport trim and offers a wireless phone charger, blind spot monitoring, a power moonroof, a 10-way power driver’s seat, a 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster, and the big 11.6-inch portrait-style infotainment system. The Sport Hybrid will, however, run you $35,415 including freight, a $3,370 premium over the combustion-only Sport trim.

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One step further up the electrified range, the Crosstrek Limited Hybrid will run you $36,415, making it the most expensive variant in the lineup. Weirdly, the moonroof becomes optional on this trim as part of a $1,600 bundle with a 360-degree camera system, and you don’t get real leather like you do in the combustion-only Crosstrek Limited. This top trim does give you a 432-watt Harman/Kardon sound system, leatherette, and GPS navigation, but the resulting price tag is a lot of money for fewer features than a regular Crosstrek Limited. Sure, it’s only an extra $2,000 more than the Sport Hybrid, but having to pay an extra $1,600 on top of that to get a moonroof back still seems weird.

What’s The Crosstrek Hybrid Up Against?

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If you aren’t too concerned about how your all-wheel-drive system operates, the Toyota Corolla Cross Hybrid starts at $29,945 for its least expensive trim, will run you $32,205 for a moonroof-equipped SE trim that’s roughly comparable to the Crosstrek Sport Hybrid, and tops out at $35,795 for a loaded XSE trim with the available moonroof, power liftgate, JBL audio system, and adaptive headlights. Sure, we’re looking at a through-the-road all-wheel-drive system with just an electric motor powering the rear wheels, but for most people, that’s enough.

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At the same time, if you’re willing to sacrifice features for size, you can get into a base-model all-wheel-drive Hyundai Tucson Hybrid for $34,960. While it doesn’t come with a big screen as a gauge cluster or a power moonroof, you still get wireless smartphone charging, a big 12.3-inch infotainment screen with wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, an eight-way power driver’s seat, a proximity key system, and a mechanical all-wheel-drive system.

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Still, while the 2026 Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid is still a bit of a maybe when it comes to recommending it due to its price and the fact that we don’t yet know its final fuel economy figures, the base model 2026 Subaru Crosstrek is absolutely worth holding out for. If you like the Crosstrek and want your money to go further, it really seems like an obvious choice thanks to gaining that 2.5-liter engine.

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Anonymous Person
Anonymous Person
1 month ago

Subaru Just Fixed The Biggest Problem With The Crosstrek
They got rid of the 3rd pedal a few years back. They have not brought it back with the newest generation, so therefore, they have not solved the biggest problem with the Crosstrek.

Jatco Xtronic CVT
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Jatco Xtronic CVT
1 month ago

Well, the third pedal is indicative of a far inferior transmission, so I think they’re doing okay on that part. It’s no Jatco, but it’s acceptable.

Hangover Grenade
Hangover Grenade
1 month ago

Manuals are dead in normie cars. Let’s all just move on.

Anonymous Person
Anonymous Person
1 month ago

A woman I used to work with bought an orange Crosstrek new in 2018 or 2019 and she said the only reason she bought it was because of the 6-speed manual. She said she wanted a small AWD stick-shift hatchback. She bought it to replace her Focus ST which also had a manual transmission but no AWD.

JokesOnYou
JokesOnYou
1 month ago

aw man, i thought it was actual boost.

Widgetsltd
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Widgetsltd
1 month ago

FYI: Both electric motors on the Crosstrek Hybrid are inside the transaxle. It’s basically the Toyota Prius-style hybrid system, but modified for a longitudinal drivetrain layout.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  Widgetsltd

Yay!
I wonder if you will be able to swap it into other cars that Subaru swaps are possible in now

Widgetsltd
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Widgetsltd
1 month ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

The sticking point there will be the electronics. To make the transmission work, you would need the rest of the powertrain electronics. The hybrid drivetrain is a highly integrated system.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  Widgetsltd

Three possibilities:
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Transplant the entire shebang, probably need the ECU, the brakes, the antitheft stuff, probably the backup camera, and the doors and…

Transplant some of that and a computer to mimic the rest.

Just take the transmission and electric motor/generators and build the controller and logic from scratch.

Probably the third option would be the best, especially if you were going to do a few of them.

Or muck around with Audi hybrid … no, never mind.

Patrick Hansbury
Patrick Hansbury
1 month ago

Amazes me how slow Subarus (outside of WRX) models are. I recently bought an old 4Runner and it’s by far my slowest vehicle. But then I realized while driving one day that its still faster than 95% of Subarus I encounter on a weekly basis. I live somewhere with a long winter so there are a LOT of AWD vehicles around.

Ppnw
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Ppnw
1 month ago

They seem to exist in an alternate universe where Americans don’t care about power. Nobody else can afford to sell such slow things and still be successful.

Ironically, their EVs will be the most powerful cars they’ve ever sold because they’re all Toyotas underneath.

ZeGerman
ZeGerman
1 month ago

I own a 2023 Crosstrek Limited with the same 182hp 2.5L engine that is mentioned in this article. It does 0-60mph in the high 7 second range. That’s perfectly reasonable for a regular daily driver.

Box Rocket
Box Rocket
1 month ago

CVTs aren’t known for their speed.

Needles Balloon
Needles Balloon
1 month ago

I’m guessing some of that $3800 difference between the hybrid/non-hybrid versions is some kind of options package being standard on the hybrid? If not, it would be one of the largest hybrid markups amongst smaller mainstream cars.

Box Rocket
Box Rocket
1 month ago

Their buyers would probably pay the premium anyway, just to try to get some mythical credit for being seemingly more environmentally-friendly.

Utherjorge, who has grown cautiously optimistic
Utherjorge, who has grown cautiously optimistic
1 month ago

When they stop burning through pallets of engines and trannies weekly on a scale that boggles the mind, maybe then

Rich Hobbs
Rich Hobbs
1 month ago

Yeah ..how are those head gaskets doing? How long to change 4 spark plugs? I heard book time is 3 hours. My niece bought a new one. Blew up on the way home. Honest! They gave her a new one and threw in an extended warranty so as not to lose the sale! Told her change the CVT fluid every 30k. Might make it last longer. Meh

Goof
Goof
1 month ago
Reply to  Rich Hobbs

>Yeah ..how are those head gaskets doing?

But, wait … isn’t that what makes a Subaru a Subaru?

As for spark plugs, reality of a boxer engine. Gotta take wheels off, etc.

Jatco Xtronic CVT
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Jatco Xtronic CVT
1 month ago
Reply to  Rich Hobbs

The lesser Subaru demands you change the fluids every 30K miles.
The continously superior Jatco Xtronic never asks you to do such a chore, because why would you do that silly “maintenance” thing anyway?

Utherjorge, who has grown cautiously optimistic
Utherjorge, who has grown cautiously optimistic
1 month ago
Reply to  Rich Hobbs

This article at least touched on it, but Subaru unquestionably has one of the greatest PR firms/marketing campaigns you can image. Even when the engine blew in my daughter’s Forester, she couldn’t wait to get another one so she could throw that sticker on the back that shows how many she has owned. And then the CVT ate it in that one, and when Subaru of America would only throw $1k (for goodwill) towards a reman that would go for $2.5k installed, she woke up.

Ask anyone that’s involved with service. Pallets of engines and trannies each week. Pallets.

Rich Hobbs
Rich Hobbs
1 month ago

I did ask! I was working for Toyota as an advisor…back in the better days, and one of the other advisors went across the road and went to work for Subie. Like you said…pallets and pallets. He made more money that’s for sure, just for walking across the street?!

sentinelTk
sentinelTk
1 month ago

Huh, I’ve now had two over 100k with no issues. Guess I missed that weekly grenading schedule….

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  sentinelTk

The guy I gave my Impreza to has over 250,000 New York miles on it. And that’s after the car hit two deer, got rear-ended by a Land Rover, and sideswiped by a UPS truck. Other than some rust in the fenders, where it got a rattle can paint job, it is running fine. And I drove it like the accelerator was an off-on switch for a lot of those miles. The things a beast.

Rich Hobbs
Rich Hobbs
1 month ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

The 2.0 liter engine is pretty good. It’s the 2.5 I see problems with. People fix to em. They like em!;

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  Rich Hobbs

I would imagine converting an Otto cycle engine to an Atkinson cycle engine would result in a fairly bulletproof engine since it would have a lot less stress on it.

Rich Hobbs
Rich Hobbs
1 month ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

Prius engines go 200+k miles often. Unless you don’t do oil changes on time. Have seen the 1st gen Priuses with 300k on them. The is out in Cali where they don’t rust away.
Can’t fit in the new one! Lol

Baja_Engineer
Baja_Engineer
1 month ago
Reply to  Rich Hobbs

What are the problems you see on the 2.5. Let’s remember this is not the old EJ25 with the craptastic HG design. It’s been over a decade it was replaced with a clean sheet design that just happened to be the same displacement.

Dogpatch
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Dogpatch
1 month ago

You forgot to mention that they eat wheel bearings for breakfast lunch and dinner,way worse than the Chevy pickups and suburbans used to.

Utherjorge, who has grown cautiously optimistic
Utherjorge, who has grown cautiously optimistic
1 month ago
Reply to  Dogpatch

I haven’t heard this, but if this is true…that’s some serious bearing issues. I remember how those GMs would snack on them like M&Ms

Baja_Engineer
Baja_Engineer
1 month ago

I can attest to that with my in-laws Outback and now my previous gen Impreza

Utherjorge, who has grown cautiously optimistic
Utherjorge, who has grown cautiously optimistic
1 month ago
Reply to  Baja_Engineer

well, more wood on the fire, I presume

Mike B
Mike B
1 month ago

I’ve always liked the look and idea of these; they seem like fun little cars. Whenever I get a little too interested though, the pricing cures me. I just don’t see good value with these, especially with them getting close to 40K.

I’m trying to decide on a hatchback-y daily driver on a budget, and these are an obvious choice. Unfortunately, even used they don’t seem like a great value. The high resale means that for 5-ish year-old example on a 20K budget, I’m exclusively looking at 2.0s. For the same money, I could get a BMW X2, which has almost 50hp more, nicer interior, AND better fuel mileage. And really, will it be that much less reliable than the Subaru?

Ppnw
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Ppnw
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike B

Modern BMWs are incredibly reliable.

Mike B
Mike B
1 month ago
Reply to  Ppnw

For reals? Or is that sarcasm, I can’t tell.

Utherjorge, who has grown cautiously optimistic
Utherjorge, who has grown cautiously optimistic
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike B

If he/she’s being serious, I’ve never heard that.

Defenestrator
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Defenestrator
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike B

Maybe they meant specifically during the warranty period.

Mike B
Mike B
1 month ago
Reply to  Defenestrator

This sounds accurate.

Box Rocket
Box Rocket
1 month ago
Reply to  Ppnw

Reliable in the sense of needing to be replaced before the warranty is up, I’d agree.

In terms of being something that one can depend on to be mechanically sound for about a half decade or more with just oil changes and other basic maintenance, I’d heartily disagree. And that goes for any modern German vehicle, not just BMW.

Box Rocket
Box Rocket
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike B

Small hatchback? Mazda3 or Toyota Corolla iM or whatever they’re calling the hatchback now. Or you can import the Mazda2 from Puerto Rico if it’s still on sale there if you want a size down.

Mike B
Mike B
1 month ago
Reply to  Box Rocket

Mazda 3 is a good suggestion, thanks. I was also thinking of an older Volvo V60 with the 4cyl. It will require more attention, but the purchase price would be about half.

Last edited 1 month ago by Mike B
Box Rocket
Box Rocket
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike B

V60 is a good choice. I have a 2017 XC60 with the 2.0L, last year of the original body style. Best fuel economy of any car I’ve had since college. Not as much personality as my XC90 V8 but the modernity is reassuring.

GreatFallsGreen
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GreatFallsGreen
1 month ago

IMO Subaru is taking sort of the same approach Honda did with the Civic Hybrid. When you compare to last year’s options, Crosstrek Sport Hybrid basically ‘replaces’ the Sport with an option package. You can’t get a Crosstrek Sport with the moonroof now, it appears. Which kinda makes sense, once the Premium added the 2.5 a year or two ago it made the Sport a little redundant.

A Civic Sport Hybrid was more of an EX replacement, as it adds a lot of equipment over a regular Sport Civic; a Sport Touring is right where an Accord hybrid starts, and not far off a CR-V hybrid. Similarly at the Crosstrek hybrid price you’re right up against the Forester Hybrid and that’s where more of the hybrid volume will probably be anyway.

Edit: for reference, the MSRP on a similarly equipped 2025 Crosstrek Sport is/was $32,835, so a $2500 premium over last year not factoring in any inflation or quiet tariff offsets.

Last edited 1 month ago by GreatFallsGreen
PBL
PBL
1 month ago

I think it’s similar, although in the case of both the Civic and the Accord, Honda had to greatly pare down the product selection. A bewildering array of drivetrains and transmission choices didn’t make sense in a dwindling segment.

Over at Subaru, however, they are printing money with compact SUV sales and even more choices will start appearing. Smart to steer people with extra cash into the profitable hybrid model, though.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago

There is nothing wrong with the base engine of the Crosstrek provided it truly represents a savings to the buyer. It gives us, the buyer, choice – and that’s good.

If, however, it costs Subaru the same money to build, and you don’t get savings at the fuel pump, then it does not make financial sense except to create a premium gap to the 2.5 option.

GirchyGirchy
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GirchyGirchy
1 month ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Yeah, the 2.0L just doesn’t make sense in that car…if they can offer the 2.5L at only a slightly higher price, there’s no real penalty. It’s not like the Outback where there’s a significant difference in fuel economy, complexity, and price between the 2.5L and 2.4L turbo.

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
1 month ago

I have an irrational attachment to the Crosstrek. I’ve never owned one, and the one that I’ve driven kind of sucked because it was saddled with the anemic base engine, but I just think they’re charming and very honest little cars. They stand out as being cheerful in a world of endless angry, gray blobs.

I think this is a worthy step up and that the hybrid is long overdue, but I really don’t know what they’re doing here price wise. They’re betting big money on people caring about the Subaru badge over all else. Don’t get me wrong, that’s a selling point and they have very loyal customers….but the Forester hybrid is within spitting distance of the Crosstrek and is in the same damn showroom.

It’s the same powertrain and great all wheel drive system but with significantly more cargo room….and Subaru is already putting money on their hoods. Unless the plan all along was to upsell people to the Forester (which it may well have been), this seems like an unforced error to me.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago

I like the idea & look of the Crosstrek. Maybe because it’s a wagony-hatchback.

But I, too, disliked driving it. It was slow, and handling was far too tall/squishy for me. Slow being relative – the 2.0 is still faster than many cars from the 80s/90s/00s (and will likely be quicker than a brand new loaded plumbing van).

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
1 month ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

It’s been begging for the WRX powertrain since its inception but Subaru has more or less thrown in the towel on enthusiasts at this point. It sucks, but from a business perspective I get it. They’d make a manual Crosstrek WRX, we’d complain that it’s too expensive and not buy it, they’d cancel it, brown ones would sell for exorbitantly sums on Cars And Bids a decade later, and we’d go back to complaining about no one makes cars like they used to.

The L.L. Bean/REI/granola/dog loving/often but not always lesbian crowd actually…you know, buys new cars.

Last edited 1 month ago by Nsane In The MembraNe
Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago

I found a used 24 year old Forester XT manual selling for $30k recently.

It’s the only XT locally, in good shape, and manual.

So, yeah. What you said.

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
1 month ago

Subaru’s burnt orange is one of the best in the game. They have great blues as well, but we already knew that.

Jack Trade
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Jack Trade
1 month ago

It always kills me that Ford has long had a similarly fetching blue but one that it mostly refuses to offer on its North American vehicles. I don’t know the name, but I always think of it as “Ford Euro blue.”

GirchyGirchy
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GirchyGirchy
1 month ago

We found the normal OB’s blues to be pretty blah…the darker one’s pretty muddy and ‘flat,’ while the lighter one’s a bit bland. Between it and the pinkish red, they’re just lacking in saturation. The green’s fantastic but was hard to find so we ended up with the silver, which has a lot of blue in it and hides dirt well.

Last edited 1 month ago by GirchyGirchy
Box Rocket
Box Rocket
1 month ago

They had a hybrid version not long after the model originally launched as the xv crosstrek. It was, uh, not good, to put it delicately.

Folks gravitate towards the crosstrek because of its compact footprint. Then they add roof baskets and hitch-mounted carriers to it because it’s not big enough for their needs. So they wind up spending more on a vehicle that doesn’t actually serve their desired function. It’s baffling.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
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Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
1 month ago

So the 2.0L is only going to be for the Impreza? That seems silly to make an engine for such a low volume car. I wonder if the Impreza will get the 2.5L across the board too.

Needles Balloon
Needles Balloon
1 month ago

Presumably most other markets will retain the 2.0L since they’re not power hungry like the US.

B3n
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B3n
1 month ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Impreza gets discontinued in the US soon.

PBL
PBL
1 month ago

Probably not across the board. The base Impreza is a pretty light car and given the price point the 2-liter four is appropriate. I just wish the upscale-looking Impreza Sport got it as an option… I tried the RS and it’s good but too much boy-racer styling for a car that can’t really cash that check.

Anoos
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Anoos
1 month ago

I’m glad they somewhat fixed the drivetrain issue, which is one dealbreaker for me. But I assume this is a CVT-only proposition and from the pictures it still has an infotainment screen that looked terrible yesterday and definitely will not age well.

Weston
Weston
1 month ago
Reply to  Anoos

CVT yes, but one of the best. I’d taken it every day and twice on Sunday over an 8-speed auto that can’t make up its mind and shifts 10 times pulling away from a stop light.

GirchyGirchy
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GirchyGirchy
1 month ago
Reply to  Weston

Stop, you know it’s not cool to like CVTs. Be better.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  GirchyGirchy

The Cool Paradox is much like the Alpha Paradox: In order to be it, you can’t care about being it. And I agree—these CVTs aren’t a joy, but they aren’t frustrating or annoying like I find modern auto boxes to be.

Anoos
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Anoos
1 month ago
Reply to  Weston

Yes, but this is a pretty basic car by today’s standards. I’d be a lot more interested in it with a manual transmission. I understand it’s not realistic, but I have purchased Subarus only because they offered AWD and a third pedal when the competitors did not.

Hangover Grenade
Hangover Grenade
1 month ago
Reply to  Weston

I had a Ford Expedition Max as a rental car. It had a 10-speed auto, and there was an indicator in the dash showing what speed it was in. It was fascinating to watch. I’d be at like 45 mph and be in 7th. I never once felt it shift.

The behemoth of a car got 22mpg with six passengers and luggage driving around Utah, so it’s doing something right.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  Anoos

Not a belt drive CVT, but a Prius style gears and torque-splitting-combining thing.

Anoos
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Anoos
1 month ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

I know. It’s the best CVT. I’m just thinking for a small (ish) car that really isn’t all that luxurious, I’d like to row my own.

There’s no shortage of crossovers in this range with similar power, most with better mpg numbers and more space.

I know I’m not the typical car buyer, but I have purchased two Subarus (three if you count my FR-S), and the reason was the manual transmission. Without that, I feel like there are better options from other brands.

Jatco Xtronic CVT
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Jatco Xtronic CVT
1 month ago
Reply to  Anoos

Subaru is the best CVT?? You take that back.

Last edited 1 month ago by Jatco Xtronic CVT
A. Barth
A. Barth
1 month ago

Subaru’s also throwing in a few other goodies like push-to-start

Pfft – the manual Subies had that back in the 1980s. 😉

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago
Reply to  A. Barth

The current Subaru market base is NOT interested in manuals.
Which is too bad, because this car with a 6-speed would be pretty cool.

Last edited 1 month ago by Michael Beranek
CarEsq
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CarEsq
1 month ago

There’s relatively recent vintages of the crosstrek with the manual. I’d thought about getting one for my kid for a first car because it makes the IIHS/Consumer Reports list for good first cars for teens. Although my wife disagrees, I think one hand on the wheel, one on the shifter will keep one hand off the cell phone.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago
Reply to  CarEsq

This exactly. A more engaged driver is a safer driver.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  CarEsq

Naw, you just learn to steer with your knee.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  A. Barth

I don’t think you could have a hybrid with a key start. I mean, most of the time it’s going to be starting and stopping on its own.

My 1957 TR3 has push-to-start. Our old farm trucks had push to start buttons on the floors. I put a push to start button in a 70 Ford truck when someone broke the key off. I put a push to start button on a 2000 Volvo so that I could start it while it was moving, bypassing the brake and transmission interlock. I don’t get why it’s a big deal.

GreatFallsGreen
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GreatFallsGreen
1 month ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

The old Prius c had a twist key start in lower trims, and the current base RAV4 LE hybrid still does at least in the outgoing gen. A bit surreal turning the key to silence at first, but Toyota hybrids always had that bright “READY” light. And the bright dash displays.

I’ve never driven any of their hybrids, but the original Escape hybrid predated Ford having keyless start and even today the Maverick hybrid still has a key start in the base XL trim.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago

So there’s a key with an off/locked , accessories, running, start(momentary) position?
Or just off/locked , accessories, running ?

I wasn’t doubting the key to unlock , just the key to start. Granted most hybrids are really press accelerator to start, not push button to start.

GreatFallsGreen
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GreatFallsGreen
1 month ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

Yep, same ignition cylinder setup as a regular nonhybrid, just rotate it to the momentary start position the way you would to bump the starter in a nonhybrid and it powers on.

Come to think of it the Prius c also offered a conventional gated shifter vs. the regular Prius joystick. It would be easy to program it to shift into park with the latter as a regular Prius did if you had pushbutton ignition, but I’m sure it was just easier to throw in the same key/park interlock that wouldn’t let you take the key out if you weren’t in park.

Last edited 1 month ago by GreatFallsGreen
STX 4x4
STX 4x4
1 month ago

Here is a review on the Forester hybrid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ONzgOz1Fj4
It uses the CVT from Toyota and is rated 35 mpg city, 34 mpg highway, and 35 mpg combined so the Crosstrek should see similar mileage.

Also the Corolla Cross and Tucson aren’t as good off road.

They should offer the hybrid on the wilderness for the improved power and better CVT.

Ash78
Ash78
1 month ago

The idea of competitors being only those in the compact crossover segments always bugs me — nothing again Autopian, it’s EVERYWHERE. As a car enthusiast, I’d much rather see the Crosstrek also compared to cars in the same range, especially the class leaders in adjacent segments. Civic Hybrid comes to mind, which is a fantastic car and a few thousand dollars cheaper than the Crosstrek hybrid.

It’s a broader issue where it makes it hard for average consumers to see proper comparison tests, or even get new ideas, because the media has followed the manufacturers’ lead in almost every case…so comparison tests end up really shortsighted.

I can’t speak for everyone, but in 90% of my car shopping and purchases, I was NOT tied to a segment. I was tied to “the idea of getting the best car for the job.”

Yes, we ended up in a minivan after discovering that all the 3-row crossovers were 20% more expensive for no reason. /obvs

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  Ash78

That does make for a more difficult job and it’s tough to compare when, what might be a positive in one class is a negative in another or features that don’t exist, but I’m with you. I looked at the Maverick, Civic hatch (manual), Si, and Corolla hatch (manual, theoretically) before buying a GR86. Were I looking now, I’d drop the two compacts that are no longer offered with manuals and add the Prius.

Ash78
Ash78
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

Yep, and the other issue is that if you’re looking at a top-trim of one brand, it might be nicer than the lower trim of a more luxurious brand, but you might not even know that the latter even exists because it’s technically in “compact luxury crossovers”.

I want to see them all — the immediate class plus, say , “2 degrees of separation.”

Yes, I know a Volvo has a nicer interior than a Honda, but most cars are already reviewed based on the value they provide; not strictly within their class.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  Ash78

That’s a good point, too, especially where trim levels can bump a base price up 50-100%, putting it in at least another price category, if not two.

GirchyGirchy
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GirchyGirchy
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

Back in ’05 I test drove an Audi A3 hatchback, Toyota Avalon, and Nissan Altima, and sat in a Mazda3 and Volvo V30; I also considered a V6 Mustang. Different classes, but still good basic DD material. I wanted to like the Mazda but the driving position was poor, so I went with the Altima.

I’d consider a GR86 now if it weren’t for the crummy fuel economy, my ’14 Mazda3 has spoiled me and I only want to go up from here.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  GirchyGirchy

The EPA numbers are a joke, but you will definitely not get the same numbers as the ’14 Mazda. An ’06, sure, but not a ’14, and it takes premium, of course (I get about the same as my ’06 2.3 5MT, which is around 30 mpg combined). Highway-only constrained to 65-70 due to traffic, I got 34 from a tank, but that was an anomaly and it’s consistently 29-31. I see people saying they get ridiculously poor mileages, but I’m convinced they’re just bad drivers in both technique and recklessness as I don’t drive like I’m transporting Miss Daisy (though I stay within a reasonable distance of the speed limit most of the time due to traffic, cops, pedestrians, etc., and the car is, oddly enough, satisfying to cruise along in, arm on the door sill and music up—oh, the sound system sucks, but so do my ears and the car is also loud—when I would have thought it would be frustrating). I don’t even get as bad as some of these F&F wannabes report when towing a utility trailer for 1/3 a tank.

Eggsalad
Eggsalad
1 month ago

Last Fall I test-drove a 2.0L base Impreza hatch. It was kind of an impressive car for ~$24k, except the engine. 40-65mph on-ramp acceleration was virtually nonexistent. It really needed a turbo or another half liter of displacement. Will the Impreza get the upgrade, or just the Crosstrek?

Der Foo
Der Foo
1 month ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

The Impreza will probably die off, but then again, if the 2.0L goes away, Subaru might be forced to put the 2.5L in the Impreza…..or they just might kill off the Impreza.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
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Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
1 month ago
Reply to  Der Foo

The 2.5 is already in the Impreza RS, and it would be silly to kill the Impreza since it just came out and takes the same kind of pieces as the Crosstrek. Otoh the Legacy is dead so who knows

Baja_Engineer
Baja_Engineer
1 month ago

the Legacy is a different body style but the Impreza is a lowered Crosstrek, or is the Crosstrek a taller Impreza? I mean the Impreza got a better business case than the Legacy to stay around as it’s pretty much the same body style as the Crosstrek (Impreza sedan is gone).

But MFRs don’t necessarily use the common sense. Case in point, the WRX is sedan-only while the Impreza and Crosstrek are HB only

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PBL
PBL
1 month ago
Reply to  Baja_Engineer

The Crosstrek is still basically a lifted Impreza, but with each new generation the divisions are greater, just as it was when the Forester first appeared as an Impreza-platform product.

I see the Impreza sticking around for a while. There aren’t many competitors in the AWD space for under $25K, and Impreza competes strongly with all of the alternatives.

It’s interesting, though, the Subaru’s one and only sedan is the sportiest Subaru of the bunch.

Aaron Nichols
Aaron Nichols
1 month ago

Wasn’t the manual only available with the base engine? Does this mean no more manual Crosstreks?

Eggsalad
Eggsalad
1 month ago
Reply to  Aaron Nichols

There hasn’t been a manual Crosstrek since 2023.

Aaron Nichols
Aaron Nichols
1 month ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

Haven’t fully kept up. Good to know.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
1 month ago

I do not understand why they don’t put the WRX engine into it…

STX 4x4
STX 4x4
1 month ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

This 100% with a manual option

Ray Finkle
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Ray Finkle
1 month ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

Seems like such a no brainer

Ash78
Ash78
1 month ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

I’ve been saying this for many years, and I came here today hoping that it was finally real.

FormerTXJeepGuy
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FormerTXJeepGuy
1 month ago
Reply to  Ash78

yeah the word boost in the headline was a real fake out

SSSSNKE
SSSSNKE
1 month ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

“Crosstrek XT”

4jim
4jim
1 month ago

Roof rails with cross bars and the trailer hitch should be standard on every trim, but $$$.

sentinelTk
sentinelTk
1 month ago
Reply to  4jim

I mean, they basically are in effect. The ship so few true “base” models that seeing a flat roof Impreza is super rare and flat roof Crosstrek…thinking…..literally have never seen one. That means that I’ve seen more LaFerrari Apertas on the road that Crosstreks without roof rails.

TK-421
TK-421
1 month ago

Hm. I bought my ’19 Crosstrek Premium (mid level only to get the heated seats) and barely any options except all-weather mats and auto (didn’t care if this car had auto or manual). Think it was like $22-23k?

It hits 80mph on the highway without a lot of struggle, it was definitely leaving my old Scion xB being driven by my friend back to my house because I wasn’t paying attention at first. I needed an appliance, it didn’t have to be fast. It’s served me well for 6 years and roughly 68K miles.

That said, it might be time to upgrade after I pay off the GR Corolla early…

Steve Lee
Steve Lee
1 month ago

I am sorry but there is nothing similar to people who like this car and those fans of Mustangs or 911’s.

Most owners of these are busy clogging up the left lane of your nearest interstate.

Mikkeli
Mikkeli
1 month ago

is the crosstrek cvt reliability not the biggest flaw? (actually curious, not naysaying!)

Abdominal Snoman
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Abdominal Snoman
1 month ago
Reply to  Mikkeli

I’m far from an expert on this, but I thought they were one of the few that were reliable, but it came with the downside of being the worst “feeling” one.

Baja_Engineer
Baja_Engineer
1 month ago

yes it’s a solid CVT, mine has 124K miles. My in-laws sold an Outback with 220K on the original CVT.
It doesn’t feel great but a contemporary Jatco feels worse, honestly.

TK-421
TK-421
1 month ago
Reply to  Mikkeli

’19 Crosstrek with 68K so far and no issues.

4jim
4jim
1 month ago
Reply to  Mikkeli

Subaru has been doing CVTs for 35+ years hopefully they can build a decent one.

STX 4x4
STX 4x4
1 month ago
Reply to  Mikkeli

The hybrid uses the CVT from the Prius which is fairly reliable.

Darnon
Darnon
1 month ago
Reply to  STX 4x4

Not directly from the Prius since the layout is pretty substantially different being longitudinal. But similar planetary eCVT concept as also used by Ford and the Pacifica Hybrid.

STX 4x4
STX 4x4
1 month ago
Reply to  Darnon

But better for going off the beaten track.

Jay Vette
Jay Vette
1 month ago
Reply to  Mikkeli

The 2012 Impreza was notorious for CVT issues (I would know, I used to have one and the CVT had to be repaired once) but Imprezas/Crosstreks after that year seem to be fine

Red865
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Red865
1 month ago
Reply to  Mikkeli

Wife’s ’19 Crosstrek, 86k, no issues and she’ a bit of a lead foot.

HowDoYouCrash
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HowDoYouCrash
1 month ago

I’d wager this is part of their tariff math, moving 100p of Crosstrek production to Indiana wouldn’t surprise me, especially now that it would all be FB25s. They might also be willing to sacrifice total sales, given the crazy tariffs, so raising the pricing and power makes some sense.

Plus with the EPA/CAFE and CA rules all being removed they no longer need to force the FB20 into their lowest cars for emissions.

Alexk98
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Alexk98
1 month ago

Wait, the Crosstrek Hybrid with the moonroof is 38 THOUSAND DOLLARS? That gets you a CX-30 Turbo Premium, and you can get a CX-30 Carbon 2.5NA for 30k flat with some nice stuff, or save for a base in the 25k range. All US CX-30 are AWD no less, sure there’s no hybrid, so it isn’t entirely apples to apples, but I’d always thought the Crosstrek was the budget AWD option compared to rivals, but even with the 2.5 adding to the value proposition, I’d probably still buy most competitors over a Crosstrek any day of the week.

Bruno Ealo
Bruno Ealo
1 month ago
Reply to  Alexk98

You can a very nice CX-50 or Rav 4 at that price.

GreatFallsGreen
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GreatFallsGreen
1 month ago
Reply to  Alexk98

No, the ‘starting’ one includes the moonroof for $35.5k. The Sport Hybrid appears to basically swap out for the old Sport 2.5 + option package from last year. It’s a little quirky though, the Limited hybrid does not have the moonroof standard, still an option there. A little different from the Forester hybrids which are like monospec trims, the hybrids include whatever option package the nonhybrids have available.

PBL
PBL
1 month ago
Reply to  Alexk98

As stated it’s $35,5 so undercuts a CX-30 Turbo. I was in the market for one of these and thought I’d love the CX-30, but you really need to drive those cars back-to-back. The CX-30 is nice, no question, but the hatch area is tiny, and sitting in it is a little like sitting in a cave. The turbocharged model has a nice shove to it, but not much else about the car feels very sporty, though the steering and transmission behavior is certainly nicer than the Subaru.

That said, the Subaru was pretty underwhelming to drive, though it was far more airy and comfortable, and the infotainment made more sense than Mazda’s old setup.

Pat Rich
Pat Rich
1 month ago

Make a simple affordable hatch but give it a decent AWD and good ground clearance and the outdoor crazy, cash strapped market scoops it up. Weird.

Seriously though, the Crosstrek should never had even come with the 2.0. Nothing Subaru makes should have that anemic little motor.

It was barely acceptable unladen at sea level, but outdoors things notoriously require…um…things and are often at not-sea-level places. When the 30 year old Land Cruiser passes your brand new Subaru on the 80mph 6000 foot Utah highway because your 3 friends, their gear and your rooftop tent have the 2.0 tapped out…you got to rethink things.

Alexk98
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Alexk98
1 month ago
Reply to  Pat Rich

It’s certainly not helped when you push what little the 2.0 has through as CVT and AWD system, the losses in that drivetrain are immense. If memory serves, the 2.0 crosstrek has been in the bottom 10 accelerating cars for sale in the US for nearly a decade now.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  Pat Rich

It’s tradition! In the early ’80s, they had a 1.6 for the people for whom the 73hp 1.8 was just too much action. On the right day with a perfect launch and maybe some tail wind, my 1.8 FWD manual sedan could hit 60 in the 13 second range. I can’t imagine an automatic wagon 1.6 with 4WD (if they sold that combo).

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

I don’t think they did. I know 4wd was manual only through 1982.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

That’s probably correct for the 1.6 as that had to be the real cheapskate model that they kept to pretty minimal options. I don’t recall even seeing many 1.6s, so I don’t think they were popular.

I brought my 1.8 auto FWD wagon to the drag strip and ran 19.6 @ 66. Hit that twice, but of course, there was no trick to managing traction or anything. I should have done bracket racing.

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