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The Feds Are Investigating Model Y Door Handles That Might Leave Your Kids Stuck Inside A Hot Tesla

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Sometimes technology isn’t actually an improvement over the thing it replaced. Smart TVs over regular TVs, software-as-a-service as opposed to just buying a perpetual licence, that sort of stuff. Electronic door handles run in that vein, and they finally seem to be garnering the scrutiny they deserve. The federal government is investigating 174,290 Tesla Model Y electric crossover because an electronic door handle setup that has reportedly led drivers to break windows in order to get their children out of their cars.

From the first door ever put on a car to the early 21st century, pretty much every door release was mechanical. A handle or a button would act on a rod or cable to release the latch. This was a pretty foolproof design because it required no power source, and since almost all cars come with more than one door, there was still a way to get into a depowered vehicle even if one of the handles was physically broken.

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Over the past 20 years or so, however, electronic door latches have steadily become more common. While they allow for flush door handles, which aid aerodynamics and combine locking functions with door release functions, they require external power to work as intended. Although internal mechanical releases are required safety items, external ones aren’t, and that seems to be the problem here. As NHTSA reports:

The most commonly reported scenarios involved parents exiting the vehicle after a drive cycle in order to remove a child from the back seat or placing a child in the back seat before starting a drive cycle. In those events, the parents were unable to reopen a door to regain access to the vehicle. Four of these VOQs reported resorting to breaking a window to regain entry into the vehicle.

The culprit here is looking like the same culprit behind a recall of another unrelated car with electronic door latches, the Ford Mustang Mach-E. As the initial investigation report for the Model Y states:

Available repair invoices report replacement of the vehicle’s low voltage battery after the incident. However, no VOQs reported seeing a low voltage battery warning prior to the exterior door handles becoming inoperative.

While there is a way to provide external 12-volt power to a Model Y with a dead battery, it’s not exactly easy. First, a 12-volt power supply must be hooked up to leads behind the front towing eye, which will release the front trunk lid. From there, a cowl trim piece must be removed, and a HEPA filter seal may need to be moved aside to grant access to the 12-volt battery terminals, at which point an external power source can be applied to the battery terminals, providing the Model Y with the necessary juice to get everything going again. Since most people don’t carry a jump pack on their person at all times, this is a rather impractical setup.

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So, since there are no emergency external door releases that work independently from a 12-volt power source, what about emergency internal door releases? While the front mechanical door releases are physical handles just ahead of the window switches, the rear ones aren’t exactly easy to access.

Model Y Emergency 1
Screenshot: Tesla (Photos enlarged for clarity)

As the owner’s manual for the pre-facelift Model Y depicts, the emergency rear door release is hidden underneath an access panel that’s underneath a mat in the bottom of the door pocket, and it’s a rather crude cable as opposed to an easy-to-use handle. It’s not particularly easy to access even if you’re able-bodied, and some people just won’t be able to access it at all. Young children strapped into car seats, obviously, but also some adults. What if your hand’s in a cast because you sent it too hard on your last snowboarding trip, or you don’t have the fingernails to pluck the door bin mat out of its home?

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It’s worth noting that some automakers simply don’t have this issue because they’ve included with their electronic door latch systems a piece of proven technology: An actual lock cylinder and a physical key, either hidden inside the fob or attached to it externally. The Hyundai Ioniq 5, Kia EV9, and Lincoln Aviator are all great examples of cars with electronic door latches and external lock cylinders to get access to the interior if the battery’s flat. Just look at how easy it is, as shown by an excerpt from the owner’s manual for the Hyundai Ioniq 5 above.

Tesla Model Y 2021
Photo credit: Tesla

Considering how Ford has recalled the Mustang Mach-E for a substantially similar issue, it wouldn’t be surprising if this investigation into 174,000 2021 Tesla Model Y crossovers results in a recall, and it may even expand to cover more model years. At the same time, it’s hard to imagine a fix for this that isn’t hardware-dependent in some form.

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Bizness Comma Nunya
Bizness Comma Nunya
1 month ago

Interior door handles, for passenger doors, should never be electric (only) actuation.

Electronic with mechanical back in the same lever? Fine. (some OEMs do this)

All Exterior, fine.

Rear hatch interior/exterior, fine.

Hood, maybe?

Never all electric for interior for passenger egress. In an emergency, I don’t think the majority of people have studied where the “emergency” releases are located with enough time to spare.

EricTheViking
EricTheViking
1 month ago

The American cars with hidden headlamps have the system that automatically retract the cover panels when the vacuum is breached. Why can’t the manufacturers come up with the system that would automatically extend the flush-mounted external door handles when the electricity isn’s supplied?

If the interior door handles require the consultation of owner’s manual to bypass the electric switches or to recharge the 12-volt batteries, they should be banned, period.

Some people lose focus when they panic and trigger the “survival mode”, desperately finding the way to break out of the disabled vehicles or break in to rescue the trapped passengers.

The glasses have gotten so strong lately that it’s really hard to break them unless you have a very pointed tool nearby. That is why I always carry this special tool inside my car.

Adam EmmKay8 GTI
Adam EmmKay8 GTI
1 month ago
Reply to  EricTheViking

My G8 would lock the key in the ignition when battery was low/disconnected. It had a power to unlock solenoid there.
On 7th or 8th winter, when I tried starting it in -20°F starter used all the electricity battery had. I had to leave car with the key in the ignition until I replaced battery or jump started it

Cars? I've owned a few
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Cars? I've owned a few
1 month ago

Really? You made me search for VOQ? I was a journalist and the first reference to an acronym was always preceded by what it stood for.

DONALD FOLEY
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DONALD FOLEY
1 month ago

You describe good practice. What did you find?

Cars? I've owned a few
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Cars? I've owned a few
1 month ago
Reply to  DONALD FOLEY

It’s kind of obscure, at least to me. Vehicle Owner’s Questionnaire.

Gerontius Garland
Gerontius Garland
1 month ago

A bunch of cars going back to at least the 1950s have had flush mechanical handles, so I don’t buy the aerodynamics excuse for a second. Companies like Tesla add this crap because it’s a gimmick to make the car seem futuristic, that’s it.

Also, the jump procedure for the Model Y is absolute insanity. I can only conclude that it was deliberately designed to be as complicated and unintuitive as possible.

Drive By Commenter
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Drive By Commenter
1 month ago

One of the first things I did to my Model Y when getting it home was adding on extensions that stick to the carpet lining the door pocket. They’re tipped with a yellow loop that’s hard to miss against the black carpet. The regular rear seat occupants know they’re there and what the purpose is.

DaChicken
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DaChicken
1 month ago

I actually like electronic door locks/latches and keyless ignitions but they have to implemented well and this is definitely not a good way. First, if I have to pull a handle to unlock/unlatch the door it’s already dumb. Second, there has to be a simple and reasonably straightforward way to open the doors without power and having to jump it or disassemble things to get to any release is a fail.

My C6, for example, has electronic door latching that has no moving parts except the latch itself. Easy to use, unobtrusive, very little maintenance. If the battery dies there are easily accessed manual releases next to the seats and there’s a key lock on the trunk to get to a back up door release from the outside. The only significant improvement would have been to make the release handles more obvious (paint them red) as they blend in with the trim too much.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
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Grey alien in a beige sedan
1 month ago

Wow… Tesla getting bad press today?!? Must be a day ending in Y.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago

My Gen-Z kids won’t get locked inside, because they absolutely hate the Sperminator and would rather walk than ride in one of his cars. One of the reasons why is clearly illustrated in the Tesla manual text above- “In the unlikely event that your battery goes dead”.
Dude, batteries go dead ALL THE TIME.

Ignatius J. Reilly
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Ignatius J. Reilly
1 month ago

Well, my pre-boomer parents and all of my GenX friends won’t ride in one either, so your kids are in good company.

MrLM002
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MrLM002
1 month ago

Another day, another investigation into the obvious: Electric door handles suck.

Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
1 month ago

Dear God, people, please, if you have to leave your kids in the car in the summer, please make sure to always roll up all the windows to keep the hot air from getting inside. Its basically common sense, yet every year, you still hear horrible stories

Tbird
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Tbird
1 month ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

And if you leave them water, they will just have to pee that much sooner. Dehydration for you.

OverlandingSprinter
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OverlandingSprinter
1 month ago

I like and support this site, but “Think of the children” is tired as a clickbait phrase. Anyone or anything (such as pets) trapped in the car is at risk when a Y’s battery dies. It’s a defect, Tesla, fix it.

TheDrunkenWrench
TheDrunkenWrench
1 month ago

Yes, but children strapped into a seat that they cannot release themselves from is a far more common scenario. It’s also one that carries a lot more legal ramifications compared to a pet if they’re to die inside.

4jim
4jim
1 month ago

similar ramifications if you tie a child to a tree outside compared to a dog.

TheDrunkenWrench
TheDrunkenWrench
1 month ago
Reply to  4jim

A common practice, unlike strapping kids into car seats in a car-centric country.

SegaF355Fan
SegaF355Fan
1 month ago

To further TheDrunkenWrench’s point the article states that some of the complaints to NHTSA about the Model Y were from parents who parked, got out of the car, went to get their child out from the back seat, were prevented by inoperative door handles, and resorted to breaking the windows to regain access. With the further note that there was no warning about low voltage on the 12V battery prior to getting out of the car.

Theoretically, the driver could have avoided the problem by keeping their door open until after they opened the rear door and gained access to the rear of the car, but that’s not really a solution.

Last edited 1 month ago by SegaF355Fan
anAutopian
anAutopian
1 month ago
Reply to  SegaF355Fan

Is that from the logs or what the “customer states”? I don’t want to defend Tesla, but what’s really worse is defending users that just ignore idiot lights.

All I’m saying is how much is user error vs. product defect?

I don’t want to promote and further idiocracy.

OverlandingSprinter
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OverlandingSprinter
1 month ago
Reply to  anAutopian

To be fair to non-technical drivers, there are no other vehicles on the planet where the consequences of ignoring an idiot light leads to the driver being unable to access the cabin. Drivers have a reasonable expectation of opening unlocked doors.

IMHO it doesn’t matter the driver ignored an idiot light — this is a bad design worthy of a recall.

JJ
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JJ
1 month ago

Yup. I’ll add that I am on my second EV and both of them (different brands) went from fine, to warning light, to All the Warning Lights, to dead on the side of the road in under 10 minutes due to dead batteries. I don’t know how many EV owners even realize their car has a 12v battery and that, if the voltage drops, you’re not moving. It’s something we will learn to get used to, but a lot of us will be learning the hard way (in my case, twice).

**The first time was especially terrifying because all these crazy warnings appeared and I thought my car had totaled itself

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  JJ

And an ICE car with a failing 12V battery isn’t necessarily going to leave someone stranded in such a manner. When they do fail, they’re not likely to kill the car while driving, it’s most likely that the car is generally not going to start. Presumably, when it fails to start, you’re already parked somewhere that’s relatively safe and a simple jump start could very well get the engine running so that the car can drive on the charging system to get home/to a service center/to auto parts place where they can change it out in the parking lot. I’m not writing this to dump on EVs so much as agreeing that most people aren’t going to be expecting to have a 12V failure or for it to be as drastic and immediate a problem if they do.

JJ
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JJ
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

Exactly. We’ve all grown up expecting a certain “failure mode” for 12 volts and, as you said, in general if you can get it to turn over, you can get it home. With an EV, a battery light is basically the same as a flat tire, at least in my limited experience. I’ve yet to try, but I suspect if you were in a situation where you “jumped” your EV to get it started, you’d still be dead on the side of the road a few miles later.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  JJ

With an EV, unless there’s some 12V drain, I’d imagine a dead 12V means it wasn’t taking a charge from the main pack and the only solution is replacement (though I suppose it could be an issue with the transformer or whatever they use to drop the voltage). It sounds more like a 12V battery warning in an EV is more akin to a charging system failure with an ICE.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  anAutopian

What a weird defense. Yeah, it’s completely fine for an idiot light to indicate “your kid will be trapped in the back, reach over the front seat, dig them out of their car capsule, and drag them over the console to withdraw them through the front door or climb in back, reach around the car capsule, and root around for that stupid cover that hides the emergency release, and hope that you can get at it with the seat in the way so you can get your kid through the rear door.” These cars are unmitigated garbage loaded with stupid solutions to problems that were long ago solved.

JJ
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JJ
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

I’d go one more and say car ingress/egress was never a problem in the first place.

MP81
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MP81
1 month ago

The Stans, somehow, will try and explain how this is actually genius.

Jdoubledub
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Jdoubledub
1 month ago
Reply to  MP81

Only thing that keeps their dates from escaping.

JJ
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JJ
1 month ago
Reply to  MP81

It’s 2025, quit getting in your car the old fashioned way. (ditto for steering it, adjusting the climate vents, using car washes, etc)

Rippstik
Rippstik
1 month ago

Sometimes, reinventing the wheel…er…door handle is not worth the small benefits. I will never understand electronic door handles, when mechanical ones are nearly fool-proof. When it becomes a life or death situation to escape a vehicle (such as after a crash), it needs to not require a pre-flight safety briefing to know how to escape.

Last edited 1 month ago by Rippstik
JJ
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JJ
1 month ago
Reply to  Rippstik

Ironic that the i3 has a known problem of loose retainer screws causing the (mechanical) door handle to come off in peoples’ hands. But yes, aside from that absurd exception, they are orders of magnitude more reliable than anything requiring a servo motor.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  Rippstik

With all the massive costs in engineering that go into passing OTT safety tests with ever-moving goal posts for the very small likelihood it will be needed and that those improvements will make a difference, not to mention the effects of the inevitable added weight on hitting fuel efficiency targets, it almost seems insane that they cheap out on a part that is used every time the car is operated and has a far greater chance of being a problem if it fails, including those low likelihood crash events they spend so much engineering to beat. But, like just about everything, it’s not about real world results, it’s about the theater of numbers (or star ratings) they can publish, it’s about selling fear to a population largely void of critical thinking skills and with a poor ability to asses risk or odds. On the flip side, we have gambling and lottery selling fantasy to those same people.

Squirrelmaster
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Squirrelmaster
1 month ago

Just yesterday I had a discussion with a fellow engineer that we shouldn’t throw away proven technology just for the sake of getting something new with minimal identifiable gains. These types of door mechanisms feel like exactly that, in that traditional door handles are mostly proven and have even been available in a flush mounting style for many decades. While I recognize electric handles and latches may simplify the assembly process, I still question where they provide any other benefit?

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago
Reply to  Squirrelmaster

Saving cost/increasing profit is the only thing that matters to the techbro likes of Elon Musk. They can spin it as “cool and innovative”, but that is very, very secondary.

MrLM002
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MrLM002
1 month ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

I wouldn’t call Jim Farley a “Tech Bro” yet the Mach-e doesn’t even have external door handles FFS.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago
Reply to  MrLM002

Not having those handles saves money. And when you are losing tens of thousands per car sold, you squeeze every penny you can. And it appeals to the cool techie idiots. Why does every EV look like a science project inside? That’s why.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

Wait, what’s the cost difference?
Mechanical handle + cable/rod vs. wiring + control module + emergency secondary + you still need a mechanical door handle, with an electric servo in it!
No way those are cheaper.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago

You’d be surprised how much cheaper an electric assembly can be these days. The mechanical backup doesn’t need to be good, it just needs to be there for emergencies so that is dirt cheap. Vs. a fully mechanical linkage that has to be tested to survive umpteen billion cycles, and is almost certainly more complex to install in the car. Saving on assembly time and expense often makes up for higher component expense today (but in this case I bet the electric is cheaper). The real reason all cars have electric windows, for example.

Squirrelmaster
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Squirrelmaster
1 month ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

Not only does it likely save vehicle assembly time, but the component assembly likely happens at a third-party facility in another country that sources components from a bunch of overseas suppliers, so even if the individual component prices are slightly higher, the increased assembly throughput at the more expensive stages makes up the difference and then some. Not to mention for the purposes of warranty repairs, replacing an electronic component is quicker and cheaper than a tech troubleshooting linkages and adjusting tolerances, so win-win for everyone but the end user outside of the warranty period.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago
Reply to  Squirrelmaster

Exactly. Ultimately it’s a penny here and a penny there and pretty soon you are talking real serious cost savings.

Squirrelmaster
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Squirrelmaster
1 month ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

Yep. I work in the manufacturing world and even I sometimes struggle with mentally accounting for the savings that economies of scale can produce. Unfortunately, that is also true for the headaches that can be created by trying to save that half-penny on 20 million widgets.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago
Reply to  Squirrelmaster

I’ve been involved in manufacturing accounting – good times indeed!

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  Squirrelmaster

Wait to the reinvent the wheel to be octagonal. They’ll use computer controlled electronic suspension to smooth out the ride and be able to sell frequent replacement, proprietary tires. As absurd as that sounds, the CT’s original wheel covers indicates that it’s a lot less absurd than it should be outside of an Onion article.

JJ
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JJ
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

Your car is resting on a contact patch the size and shape of a golf pencil. It’s basically a flying car.

4jim
4jim
1 month ago

Do the aerodynamics justify the cost, risks, and annoyance or is it just something flashy to attract the FOMO techie cultists?

Lockleaf
Lockleaf
1 month ago
Reply to  4jim

I believe a previous article on here regarding the popout door handles stated they have a 0.01% impact on aero. I believe that is correct, but I don’t have a citation on hand.

4jim
4jim
1 month ago
Reply to  Lockleaf

So totally not worth a child being trapped. thanks for that stat.

JJ
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JJ
1 month ago
Reply to  4jim

what percentage improvement would be worth it?

Jb996
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Jb996
1 month ago
Reply to  JJ

0.02%. No less. One must be an ethical engineer.

/s

JJ
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JJ
1 month ago
Reply to  Jb996

lol. But, also, that would DOUBLE the benefit.

Last edited 1 month ago by JJ
JJ
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JJ
1 month ago
Reply to  Lockleaf

It would be a good article to actually spell out the gains of things like door handles, cameras vs side mirrors, wheel covers. I’m curious to know what modification makes the most difference, and how much of a difference that actually is.

MikuhlBrian
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MikuhlBrian
1 month ago

Are we just gonna bypass the line in the image that says:

NOTE: Not all Model Y vehicles are equipped with a manual release for the rear doors”

How is this legal???

MP81
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MP81
1 month ago
Reply to  MikuhlBrian

“Disruption”

TimoFett
TimoFett
1 month ago
Reply to  MikuhlBrian

Yeah I also read that and had to read it again just to make sure that it wasn’t on all of the vehicles.

TheDrunkenWrench
TheDrunkenWrench
1 month ago
Reply to  MikuhlBrian

I was gonna say, they’re partially burying the lede on that one.

FormerTXJeepGuy
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FormerTXJeepGuy
1 month ago
Reply to  MikuhlBrian

and Uber wonders why I’ve requested an option to exclude Teslas.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  MikuhlBrian

Money.

SAABstory
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SAABstory
1 month ago

AMC door flap handles federally mandated. There. Problem solved.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago
Reply to  SAABstory

Those were some of the best door handles ever made. Dick Teague? I wonder.

Doughnaut
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Doughnaut
1 month ago

I find it mind blowing that the feds regulate in such a way, that European turn signals aren’t allowed (like Audi), but somehow door handles like this are allowed, or there isn’t some standard about requiring certain controls to be physical, or that the Buick Envista brake lights and turn signals aren’t where you expect them at all (and the signals are red!).

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