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The Fifth-Generation Ford Thunderbird Was A Mystery Wrapped Inside Of An Enigma But It Was Also One Of The Fastest T-Birds

Ford Thunderbird 1967 Ts4060dac Copy

Adolescence is an awkward time for anyone. Cars aren’t people, but the Ford Thunderbird has struggled with this challenge that usually affects human teenagers. One T-Bird that had such a difficult time was the all-new 1967 fifth-generation model.

However, while other troublesome transitional Thunderbirds have been rather easy to explain, the 1967 “Glamour Bird” to this day remains a confusing product; one that’s hard to pin down and define. Maybe it was the hearse-like landau bars or the scary machine-like faceless front, but there was always an element of sinister mystery surrounding it. You can dismiss it as a bit of a failure but that’s too easy, and it deserves our closer inspection.

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Flipping The ‘Bird

Over its half-century of life, the mission of the T-Bird went through more major changes than virtually any other car you can think of. There were some great cars, and even some that were not-so-great by an enthusiast’s standpoint that nonetheless sold well, but it seems like with each significant shift there was a transition period car that didn’t always click.

1957 Ford Thunderbird E Code (1) 12 31
Auto Barn Classic Cars

The 1955-57 two-seat models were iconic but just couldn’t gain the kind of sales that Ford needed to sustain. While the four-seat model “Box Bird” that replaced it for 1958 sold far better, there was an adolescent awkwardness to the styling that seemed stuck somewhere between the previous car and larger Ford coupes.

Ford Thunderbird 1958 Wallpaper
source: Ford

It wasn’t until the third-generation 1961-63 “rocket bird” that the new direction was truly resolved.

61 Tbird 1 10
source: Ford

Another adolescent period occurred later. Whatever you think about the Torino-based 1977-79 T-Birds, they sold extremely well and were some of the most popular examples of the nameplate ever.

1977 T Bird 1 10
source: Ford

Of course, with CAFÉ fuel economy requirements this size of Thunderbird couldn’t last. Ford’s decision was to put the name onto the smaller 1980-82 Fox-body-based ‘Bird. This move drastically dropped the size and was more maneuverable, but Ford also chose to try and mimic the styling of the previous, much larger car.

1980 T Bird 2
source: Ford

This didn’t work. The scaled-down-brougham looks were so universally disliked that it led to a revolution at Ford which resulted the awesome critically acclaimed and publicly welcomed 1983 “aero bird.”

83 T Bird 1 10
source: Ford

Still, possibly the most controversial big change for the T-Bird occurred when it came time to replace the 1964-66 “Flair Bird,” better known to many as the “Thelma and Louise” car that meets a tragic end in the film of that name. Times had changed, cars had changed, and the Thunderbird was desperately looking for a new identity.

This Bird Had Bones (Dr. McCoy That Is)

The mid-sixties was an odd time for the Thunderbird, with the 1965 Mustang taking on the role of Ford’s youthful, fun, and affordable coupe. The Mustang-based Cougar would soon arrive to take on a slightly more luxurious role for the pony car and further erode sales of the fourth-generation T-Bird.

66 Tbird 1 10
source: Ford

At the same time, General Motors was getting on the Thunderbird bandwagon in a big way with such personal luxury car masterpieces as the Buick Riviera and the new-for-’66 Oldsmobile Toronado. For this next generation, the Thunderbird would need to emphasize the “luxury” part if it’s “sport/luxury” mix to stay competitive. Ford began by changing the T-Bird from a unit body platform to a unique new body-on-frame structure (shared with no other Ford at the time) for more isolation and quiet. Next, the slow-selling convertible was dropped since few if any competitors offered a drop-top personal luxury entry.

Styling of this new fifth-gen T-Bird followed the path of the GM players: clean, simple and imposing. The Thunderbird’s front end was simply a large rectangular grille with hidden headlamps; a dramatic departure from the earlier T-Birds. The ’67 Olds Toronado and Buick Riviera also had concealed lamps and blunt fascias, but the object on the cover of the 1967 Thunderbird brochure below looked more like an industrial threshing machine or a killer cyborg than it did a car. As a young kid I was terrified of the old one in our ‘hood and always crossed to the other side of the street rather than walk on the sidewalk beside it. It’s pure evil.

67 T Bird Brochure 1 20
source: Ford

In back, the rectangular shape of the front was echoed with a rectangular “loop” taillight; connecting both ends of the car was a very simple fuselage-style body with a subtle “Coke bottle” shape, bumped-out front fenders and thick rear pillars with, on upper models, those hearse-style “S” bars. I was going to crop these images below but decided that I just have to show the entire set of illustrations from the ’67 brochure since they’re just so magnificent and add the mystique that must have helped give it the name “glamour bird.”

T Bird Landau 2 1 10
source: Ford

Actually, getting the “base” coupe model got you a vinyl-and-landau-bar-free C-pillar and looked pretty damn good:

T Bird Coupe 1 10
source: Ford

Overall, it was like something right out of a period sci-fi like a Syd Mead rendering or a Star Trek set (ironically, “Bones” McCoy actor DeForrest Kelley owned such a ‘Bird to park near Spock’s Riviera).

The most radical change for the ’67 fifth generation was the introduction of a new four-door Thunderbird, the first (and would turn out to be only) T-Bird sedan ever offered. An early if not pioneering adaptor of making a sedan that tried to look like a coupe, the center-opening “suicide doors” with adjacent door handles helped to disguise the rear portal.

T Bird Landau Sedan 1 10
source: Ford

The thick coupe C-pillars remained and the door cut in the sheet metal was blended in with the bottom of the silly chrome Landau bar. The sheet metal “fin” on the back of the rear door opened with it:

68 T Bird Doors Open 1 10
source: Orlando Classic Cars

Are you checking out that interior in the image above? You really should.

Yo Dawg, I Heard You Like Landau Bars

Inside is where the battle of personal luxury cars is won and lost, and this T-Bird really went all-out with the Mad Men-style. You have bucket seats separated by a slick console up front, though a front bench was available to seat six. This looks like it was absolutely the thing to pull up at a Playboy Club with.

67 T Bird Interior 2 1 10x
source: Ford

Do you like landau bars? Well, if you do, Ford put interior landau bars on the other side of the outside landau bars just for you, dawg. They even incorporated the rear courtesy light into these funeral coach-like details that seem to add to the Glamour Bird’s creepiness and mystery. This thing’s Landau bar game is strong, and I especially like the inlaid “woodgrain.”

Landau Bar 10 1

source: Orlando Classic Cars

Admittedly, they did a surprisingly good job of the hidden back portal ruse; far better than many “four door coupes” of today that this T-Bird seems to have presaged decades before.

68 T Bird Front 1 10
source: Orlando Classic Cars

The extra doors certainly helped with rear seat ingress and egress, and selecting the four-door version of the T-Bird avoided the two-door’s cool-looking “wraparound” rear seatback you can see below that looked like a comfy lounge booth from Goodfellas but actually pushed you uncomfortably into Joe Pesci in the center. Interestingly, the rear quarter windows on the two-door slide back to open instead of down

T Bird Interior 1 1 10
source: Ford

The dashboard seemed to project an image of a GT car instead of a luxo cruiser with round gauges, power window switches all lined up in a row, sliding HVAC levers that look like airplane controls, and even an available overhead console with warning lights.

T Bird Dashboard 1 10
source: Ford

If there’s one thing that this T-Bird didn’t lack it was features, and those features seemed to operate on some of the strangest steampunk technologies. The windshield wipers ran off of the power steering pump. Headlight covers on that “Norelco razor” front end lifted via engine vacuum, which also controlled the locking mechanism of the steering wheel that tilted inward to allow easier access when the car was off. Fiber optic lines monitored the functionality of lighting. The sequential rear turn signals- one of the first to incorporate them- operated by an actual mechanical distributor that ran whenever you turned the indicators on. Signaling a turn ran a motor in the distributor that sent power to the appropriate bulb.

Console T Bird 1 10
source: Ford

There are likely many reasons you never see this generation of T-Bird on the road anymore, but that BMW 7-Series-like complexity likely worked against it and resulted in many examples becoming fodder for CHiPs car wrecks when they weren’t even ten years old

One of the lesser-known innovations that Ford offered in 1968 was what might have been the first appearance of supplemental high-mounted stop lights, long before they became mandatory in America for 1986. This was apparently a rarely selected option, and only available on four doors.

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source: Ford

None of that seems totally unexpected for this mysterious T-Bird. However, the oddly strong straight-line performance adds another layer to the enigma.

The Boss Bird

What would you imagine to be the fastest Thunderbirds made? Maybe you’re thinking some early two-seater like the supercharged 1957, or more likely one of the later supercharged stick shift 1990 Super Coupes. You’d be right, but this strange fifth-generation car will surprise you again since some of them can vie for the title of fastest factory T-Birds ever

For 1967, power came from a standard 390 cubic inch 4-barrel V8 with twin exhausts rated at 315 horsepower; a 428 with 345 horsepower on tap was optional. However, next year the new 385 series big block “Thunder Jet” 429 V8 became an option; the first appearance of the motor that would become much more famous in the late sixties “hot” Mustangs. Quoted conservatively by Ford as producing 360 horsepower, many reports claim that the motor produced at least 40 more than that. Despite the 4300 pound curb weight, this redundantly named Thunder Jet Thunderbird was quick, with sources giving zero to sixty times anywhere from low-nines to as low as mid-sevens, making it one of the quickest cars in T-Bird history, landau bars and all.

68 T Bird Engine 1 10
source: Orlando Classic Cars

The ’67 T-Bird handily outsold the Riviera and Toronado, but despite an all-new design and the addition of the four-door model, sales of the fifth-generation never achieved the boost that was expected. The 77,976 cars sold for the 1967 model year barely beat that 69,176 of the previous year’s final “Flair Bird”, but they dropped to below 65,000 for 1968 and never went over 50,000 after that. It didn’t help that Ford chose to add a pronounced and absurd “beak” to the thing near the end. Look at the nose on that thing! I also really hate T-Birds (or almost any car) where they block off the entire C pillar.

1971 T Bird 1 10
source: Orlando Classic Cars

Expanding into four-door territory also proved to be a failed experiment, and that variation of T-Bird ended with the last fifth generation cars in 1971. Only 24,967 sedans sold in 1967, a number that steadily dropped to a mere 6,600 moving in 1971. After that, the four door Thunderbird was done for good.

The T-Bird Made A Mark

Honestly, the ’67 Thunderbird seems like it would have made more sense as a smaller Lincoln; like an LS or MKZ for an earlier generation, or a Versailles that actually worked. Of course, in the late sixties before the fuel crunch and years before compact luxury foreign cars were in vogue, such a market wouldn’t have existed; bigger was still better for the top brand of Ford. However, in 1969 Lincoln did introduce a version of this Thunderbird, the also-evil-looking Mark III as seen in the The French Connection and The Car. This was a smash success and proved extremely profitable for Ford and helped to save face for Lee Iacocca and his product planning collaborator Hal Sperlich after this generation of T-Bird proved to be a bit of a sales loser. Why is that when I see a Mark III owner wiping his hands, I assume that he just did a hit?

Mark Iii 1 10
source: Ford

In many ways, though, I’m surprised that this generation of Thunderbird did as well as it ended up doing and wasn’t an abject failure. It’s a car that’s almost impossible to define as a very expensive Ford-branded luxury coupe that still wanted to be seen as a bit of an enthusiast’s car; it wasn’t, though in a straight line it was fast enough to inspire performance car people. Even the new sedan version really wasn’t a traditional sedan but instead an odd sort of coupe with an extra set of doors. What the hell was this thing?

Such hard-to-define cars often struggle in terms of appreciation, and that’s absolutely the case for the 1967-71 Thunderbird. Decent examples typically trade hands for the $9,000 to $18,000 range; that grey ’68 429 four-door shown below with 40,000 on the clock only fetched $35,000. Considering the mileage and beautiful condition, that’s pretty much all the money in the world for one of these things, and estimators at places like Hagerty don’t see it going up anytime soon.

68 T Bird Rear 1 10
Orlando Classic Cars

To me, the sinister ambiguity of this unlikely hidden muscle car makes it oddly appealing. The most complex riddles are often easy to solve years later, but over half a century on the fifth-generation Thunderbird remains a mysterious thing that we might never fully understand.

source: Ford

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Scoutdude
Scoutdude
1 month ago

Personally I like the Glamor Birds and had since I got to ride in one of my Grandmother’s friend’s 2dr when I was in kindergarten or 1st grade. I was smitten by that wrap around back seat, great grille and of course those sequential turn signals and the slight whirring noise coming from the trunk.

So when one came up for sale in the Little Nickle for cheap because it needed work I got there as quick as I could. The PO had “tuned it up” ie replaced the spark plugs and it wouldn’t run right. I lifted the hood and poked around. Got around to the pass side and notice the plug wires weren’t looking happy with the routing so I threw the man his 2 bills and drove it out of there as quick as I could. Once I got out of the alley and around the corner I pulled over, shut it off followed the firing order around the distributor confirmed what I suspected, and swapped those two plug wires that didn’t look right. Fired it back up and the Thunderjet purred on all 8cyls again w/o any popping through the carb.

Someone had messed with the turn signal distributor so I did pull it apart, clean the contacts and fixed the wiring that had bypassed it and those wonderful sequential tail lights worked again. It was a slick top 2dr that had been repainted though it wasn’t a great job but it was a great 20 footer once I cleaned it up.

That was only my first T-bird. Since then I’ve also owned a Box, specifically a 1980 with the optional 302 but it was just because it was a cheap way to get a 302 for my Van. I did eventually sell the transmission, one hubcap and a quarter window. With that and a penny a pound I got a free engine.

That was followed up by an aero an 83 5.0 that I kept for several years and took on a couple of great road trips.

Currently I have a Retro a 2004 that we’ve had for a couple of years. The wife is partial to Bullets, I like the Squares, and of course we be like the Baby so if the right deal comes along could see adding any of the above to the fleet. Now if I won the lottery the Thunderbird would be the model that I’d get at least one of each generation, even the Box which would get a proper pro street tubbing and a blown big block sticking out of the hood, otherwise I’d keep it stock.

Squirrelmaster
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Squirrelmaster
1 month ago

These are cars that look better in real life than in photos. Each time I see one I end up doing a double-take and always end up appreciating the design. I agree that it isn’t a great Thunderbird, but it is an excellent design. I can’t recall having seen a 4-door one in the flesh, but I hope to some day.

Hal Inc
Hal Inc
1 month ago
Reply to  Squirrelmaster

Ha, I was just about to comment the opposite! In the lead image especially, it looks so good, but in person to me it looks a bit chubby and awkward from some angles.

Ewan Patrick
Ewan Patrick
1 month ago

To quote Marc Cohn,

Don’t you give me no Buick
Son, you must take my word
If there’s a God in Heaven
He’s got a silver Thunderbird
You can keep your Eldorados
And the foreign cars absurd
Me, I wanna go down
In a silver Thunderbird

Nice song!

Also, I had a diecast model of one of these (purple) when I was in primary school. One of the few I looked after.

Greetings from Scotland!

Manwich Sandwich
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Manwich Sandwich
1 month ago

On that Chips chase video, at 1 minute in, what the hell is that jackass in the white car doing????

And at 1:30, why is the cop backing in like that? That’s stupid.

And at 2:45, that other cop is using the fire extinguisher in THE MOST INEFFECTIVE WAY POSSIBLE!!!

Good lord was that show terrible.

Axiomatik
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Axiomatik
1 month ago

Awful lot of tire squeal in the gravel too, and I’m not sure why the perp was just doing donuts anyway. When the officers can’t control the fire, they just nope the hell out of there. Someone else’s problem.

Dave Klotz
Dave Klotz
1 month ago

They also described the stolen car as a “1964 Thunderbird.” WHOOPS.

Marques Dean
Marques Dean
1 month ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WwlWgMTCp8w&pp=ygUzamFtZXMgYm9uZCBkaWFtb25kcyBhcmUgZm9yZXZlciBtciB3aW50IGFuZCBtciBraWRk

Every time I see that version of the Thunderbird, I think of the movie “Diamonds Are Forever”!

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
1 month ago

These are the OldsmoBirds – I think Bunkie Knudsen’s influence is all over this generation (especially the ’71s, which look VERY GM, which is where ol’ Semon came to Ford from). The “Fat Elvis” era of Mustangs just before the Mustang II happened was also his doing. And that got him in a fight with Iacocca and bounced out of the company.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
1 month ago
Reply to  Dan Roth

Bunkie did a lot of stupid things during his 18 month tenure from February 1968 to September 1969 – but the first three years of the 5th Gen Thunderbirds were not among them.

However one can definitely add the 1970 Mercury Cyclone facelift, the 1971-1973 Cougar, and the 1972 Torino and Montego to his litany of errors.

But one thing he got 100% right:
The 1972 Lincoln Continental Mark IV – because Lido’s preferred version was Hideous
https://www.deansgarage.com/continental-mark-iv/

Last edited 1 month ago by Urban Runabout
Dan Roth
Dan Roth
1 month ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

Yes, that’s true. That Mark extended the sales boom of the Mark III. Those are probably the greatest Lincolns ever (at least of the modern era) together with the ’61.

So of course I like the weird, huge, inadequately structured ’58-’60 unit-body cars. But that Elwood Engel Continental is just …. *low whistle* The guy had a touch for clean-looking cars. Ironic that his life was kinda messy.

Oh, and I really like the ’72 Torino. That’s the best-looking Torino. The ’73 is the Starsky car and … meh.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
1 month ago
Reply to  Dan Roth

My argument against the ’72 Torino and Montego is they were too Coke-Bottle, pointy Pontiac.

My favorites were the 1968/69 models.

M. Park Hunter
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M. Park Hunter
1 month ago

When I was a kid in the ‘80s, my uncle who liked fast things had a couple of slightly junky versions of these out behind the barn. They both had the 429. A ride down the county blacktop was my first fast blast – roaring torque shoving me into the upholstery, and a flying top speed wafting over the undulating bumps in the road. Exhilarating.

I don’t think I experienced another car that felt that fast until a friend took me out in his first gen Viper.

The four-door ‘Bird is on my automotive bucket list. This was supposed to be the future, and we wuz robbed.

Aaronaut
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Aaronaut
1 month ago

I don’t know, I love the styling front and back. I’ll take the landau bar-less red one from the catalog, please!

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 month ago

Just a nitpick, but on these and other hidden headlight ’70s Fords, engine vacuum shut the lids, not opened them. They were held shut against spring loading so they’d failsafe to being open if there was a vacuum leak. It’s also why they wink or have part-open lids if they’ve been parked a while.

UnseenCat
UnseenCat
1 month ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

If you’ve ever ridden or driven in a Ford with the vacuum-operated covers, it’s impossible to forget the soft hissss you hear when the headlights are turned on or off. A sound you absolutely don’t associate with a car, the first time you hear it.

I think these (and I know that ’74-76 and ’77-79 ones did) also had a vacuum-operated parking brake release. There was no release handle under the dash. You just shifted out of Park, and the parking brake pedal popped up with a little “psst” of vacuum pressure change. (There was a hidden manual release still — a small lever just above the parking brake pedal that you could pull with your toe which manually unlatched the brake and also vented the vacuum chamber.) Shifting back into Park also caused a little bit of vacuum noise as it caused the vacuum chamber pressure to change to the holding state — but it didn’t activate the parking brake; you still had to push the pedal yourself. It was a weird system that put vacuum assist on the release, but in way actually took any mechanical function out of the parking brake. It was just nifty and added to the unique sounds that luxury Fords made.

’74-’76 and ’77-79 also added a solenoid-actuated release on the seatback latches that operated when a door opened and the courtesy lights came on. It had a rather satisfying mechanical “THOCK” as the latch handles moved by themselves. You also learned to keep your hand away from the latch handles, because they moved fast and with enough force to smack your fingertips hard.

LTDScott
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LTDScott
1 month ago

TIL about the optional high mount stop lights. I thought the 70s Toronado was the first at that.

The silver pillar garnish on newer Kia Carnival minivans always remind me of the landau bars on these.

Scott Wangler
Scott Wangler
1 month ago

My buddy had a 66′, those sequential turn signals were controlled by a cam. Not sure how you would control sequential turn signals with a distributor.

4moremazdas
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4moremazdas
1 month ago
Reply to  Scott Wangler

It’s a slightly different switching mechanism, but the sequencer for these taillights is still the same basic principle as a distributor. You have a rotating shaft that as it turns it mechanically connects different circuits in order. It’s just that in this case the driving force for the shaft is an electric motor rather than the engine.

David Barratt
David Barratt
1 month ago

In the 1980s when I was a kid, my aunt had a dark green 4 door T-bird that was her favorite earthly possession. She kept it inside the garage and rarely drove it while her everyday car had to live outside. I didn’t get many rides in it but she would let me sit in it while she painstakingly detailed the interior with q-tips. I always thought it looked like a car the bad guys would drive in a cop show.

Last edited 1 month ago by David Barratt
Arthur Wojczynski
Arthur Wojczynski
1 month ago
Reply to  David Barratt

The only 4 door T bird I ever saw was in July of 1972. My 1971 Pinto hatchback was under its back bumper. I had been rear ended by a Ford Torino from Ontario, Canada and pushed under the T bird from Quebec City, Quebec that had stopped on the expressway for merging traffic. I was from Detroit, Michigan. The Ontario car had cut across the the entry lane to the expressway and hit me. Truly an international and inter provincial incident.

Rich Mason
Rich Mason
1 month ago

I recall these were my favorite Tbirds as I was 10 when the 67 models came out.
A couple of years later my 12 year old self was asked to move a family friend’s 68 Tbird from the drop off area at the pool to a proper parking spot. The parking area had brand-new asphalt, maybe a day or two old.

That Tbird did a burn out that was beyond amazing. I must have spent 10 minutes just lighting up those tires. Until my friend’s Mom ran out of the pool area in a panic.
But those few minutes made me a burn out junkie for life…

A couple years later my old man picked up a 66 model Bird for me and my brothers to drive to get to the pool and back. Paid 400 bucks for it. The area we lived in had 50 miles of dirt roads in a new home development, and some really great hills, jumps, etc. We beat the crap out of that thing. My 14 year old brother rolled it one night. When we flipped it back over there was no damage at all. Except for the people’s front yard where it ended up. Another time he crushed the oil pan and split the bottom of the radiator doing a hard landing Duke Boys style. Good times. Thanks for the memory reboot.

Joe The Drummer
Joe The Drummer
1 month ago
Reply to  Rich Mason

Heh. Shades of my black-sheep uncle and his hooligan friends in the late 70s (“Dazed And Confused” was basically a biopic of their lives, and I could have been a minor character as someone’s little brother) doing likewise in Mrs. Hatcher’s 454-equipped 1971 Impala – one-wheel-peel for days.

Y2Keith
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Y2Keith
1 month ago

Back in high school, after hitting a deer in my ’77 Gran Fury, I test drove a 2-door ’71 beaky ‘Bird that was on the local Ford dealer’s used lot. Red with a black vinyl top and the 429 ThunderJet underhood, it also sported a bordello-red, button-tufted interior with high-back front seats and that awesome, wrap-around rear seat like someone at the factory chucked a Chesterfield sofa back there and called it gravy.

Test drive proved it had issues beyond what I wanted to deal with, and and it turned out the Gran Fury wasn’t totaled. Part of me still wonders what mischief I could have gotten up to in a car with that 429 under the hood instead of a Mopar 360 saddled with Lean Burn — not to mention all that might have transpired in that decadent back seat.

Carlos Ferreira
Carlos Ferreira
1 month ago

I love this generation of T-Bird, especially in 4 door guise. As a young impressionable euro kid, this era of styling looked like a fantastic future past.

TK-421
TK-421
1 month ago

I had a 77 Pontiac Grand Prix as my first car in the Navy, and thought it was huge. Then my friend rolled up in a 77 Thunderbird that he loved, baby blue. THAT was a land barge.

He later pop riveted a giant hood scoop on the hood. The 80s were a fun time.

Bill C
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Bill C
1 month ago
Reply to  TK-421

77 Regal here, slightly shorter than GP. Remember, 77 T-birds were actually “downsized” and on the Torino platform. They were hugely popular, but my extended family were GM faithful, so I don’t recall ever riding in one. One would hope the backseat had more room than the colonnade coupes.

Mikey66
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Mikey66
1 month ago
Reply to  Bill C

It didn’t, I had ’76 and ’77 GP’s and a ’78 Cougar XR-7. None had as much room in the back as you would think. I don’t remember the 3 having much of a difference in rear seat room, but man you could put down some miles on the highway with any of them.

Bill C
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Bill C
1 month ago

My least favorite Thunderbird generation. Front end looks like a vacuum cleaner.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 month ago
Reply to  Bill C

Or a whale shark.

Javier Barraza
Javier Barraza
1 month ago
Reply to  Bill C

My most favorite, 80s aero birds/turbo coupes come in 2nd.

Laika
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Laika
1 month ago

I always kinda dug the look of these. I’d like to see one in chrome paint so the whole thing looks like a jet engine.

And not to be “that guy” but ’58-’60 t-birds are usually called “Square Birds” and ’61-’63 are usually called “Bullet Birds”. While ’64-’66 are usually called Flair Birds they’re also often called “Jet Birds”

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
1 month ago

I was a wee lad when these were new – the first new Thunderbird I had memory of.

They were very much a product of their time – their big mono-grille intended to look like the intake of a fighter jet, and the interior fittings adding to that perception.

These were assembled in Wixom, Michigan – the same factory where all Lincoln Continentals were assembled. Given the size, power, high quality, market positioning, pricing and coach doors – the Fordor Thunderbird was effectively a baby Lincoln sedan in all but name for people who had fond memories of the close-coupled 1961 Lincoln Continentals.

The only reason this generation of Thunderbird lasted five years rather than the typical three is that it was extended due to the Lincoln Mark III being built on this platform in ’69.

As far as the awful 1970-71 beak – we can blame Bunkie Knudsen who came over to Ford from Pontiac for that…

Last edited 1 month ago by Urban Runabout
Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 month ago

The 4th and 5th generation T-Birds are indelibly printed in my memory because of the slick, prominent ads Ford ran in National Geographic throughout the 60s. These were usually found adjacent to Beechcraft Baron ads, so it’s not hard to figure out the target audience. I only ever liked the 55–57 originals and 61-63 Bullet Birds, but when I think T-Birds, it’s the 4th and 5th I envision.

Also, don’t you think Landau Bar would be a good name for an expensive candy bar?

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 month ago
Reply to  The Bishop

Ha! Yes. Good ol’ Martin. A somewhat odd, but very interesting guy. And those Geographics were new when I first saw them.

Last edited 1 month ago by Canopysaurus
Bronco2CombustionBoogaloo
Bronco2CombustionBoogaloo
1 month ago

I can’t believe that in 60 years, we’ve gone from that beautiful dashboard to an iPad stuck in the center.

Dan1101
Dan1101
1 month ago

And now it’s becoming standard for the the instrument cluster to be a short wide screen.

Bronco2CombustionBoogaloo
Bronco2CombustionBoogaloo
1 month ago
Reply to  Dan1101

I can’t wait to see what our tech-bro overlords come up with next: “What do you need a tacked-on iPad for, when you already HAVE your 7G retinal implant??”

Dan1101
Dan1101
1 month ago

Or “Your brain implant isn’t working? Sorry, we can’t sell you this bread for $4.99 without the store app installed inside your skull. That will be $7.65 sir.”

Hal Inc
Hal Inc
1 month ago

I think that can still be done right if manufacturers aren’t lazy about the materials and styling of the rest of the dashboard. And if they take advantage of a stand-alone screen allowing for a lower dashboard and better visibility.

SoCoFoMoCo
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SoCoFoMoCo
1 month ago

The ’58 is frequently referred to as the “Ugly Bird,” even by its fans. Not totally fair because pretty much all 58-60 Fords were ungainly beasts, but still accurate.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
1 month ago
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Sure did make that beautiful lucre, though.

KennyB
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KennyB
1 month ago

One of my buddies got a ’69 with the 429 as his first car in 1991. It was a boat, but did really well bracket racing at Milan Dragway.

One of my other friends dad was the Ford engineer that developed the sequential turn signal for that car. It was early in his career, and he was very proud of it.

LMCorvairFan
LMCorvairFan
1 month ago

A friend had one of these. We spent about six months debugging vacuum leaks and funky electrics getting all the doodads working. Nice car when it was running which was infrequently.

Logan
Logan
1 month ago

These always looked like a hearse that someone cut the back section out of.

And lots of cars in the 1970s had this problem, but in two door form these were some of the worst I can think of in terms of laughable overhangs and proportions. The Lincoln Marks are huge cars, but they also have tightly drawn shapes and styling elements. Even in the PR stuff this generation T-Bird looks so fat that it’s like it is spilling over it’s wheels.

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