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The Hard Part Is Done: 1964 Pontiac Catalina vs 1971 Datsun 510

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In the words of James Moriarty from the BBC series Sherlock: I’m back. Did you miss me? Last week did not go the way I planned at all, to put it mildly. After an emergency room visit, three nights in the hospital, gallons and gallons of IV antibiotics, emergency surgery, and more pain than I even thought was possible, all I have to say is that gallbladders can be real assholes sometimes. I’m very happy to be here right now typing this, in more ways than one.

First up, huge thanks to the one and only Matt Hardigree for covering for me last week. I owe you a drink next time we see each other, sir. On Friday, Matt showed you a couple of vehicles you don’t want to see in the rearview mirror, and you definitely don’t want to see the inside of: ambulances. The ultra-low-mileage Ford Econoline-based rig won handily, despite its higher price and questions about possible rust underneath.

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But it’s a bit tactical-looking for my taste, with the flat-black paint and all. I know you can change it, but it’s a lot of work to do so. And I already know my way around a modern Chrysler Hemi, so I think I’d stick with the Rambulance. The dogs seem to like it, and I have come to trust the opinions of dogs.

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Now then: If you want to make an old car run more like a new car, a sure-fire way to do it is to swap out its engine for something more modern. But that’s a daunting task that not a lot of us are up to. I briefly looked into swapping the little four-cylinder in my MG for a 3.4-liter V6 from a Camaro, a common swap, but it’s just so much work. It seems to me that if you want an engine-swapped car, a better way to go might be to look for a running and driving project that someone else has grown tired of, or run out of money to complete. Something like one of these two, for instance. Let’s take a look.

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1964 Pontiac Catalina – $3,995

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Image: Craigslist seller

Engine/drivetrain: 5.3-liter OHV V8, four-speed manual, RWD

Location: Hillsboro, OR

Odometer reading: unknown

Operational status: “Solid enough to daily drive”

As you’ve probably noticed, we’re big fans of GM’s erstwhile performance division around here. Pontiac kicked off the muscle-car craze under the guidance of automotive antihero John Z. DeLorean, provided the only possible vehicle capable of containing Burt Reynolds in the ’70s, built the only two-seat sports car in the GM stable besides the Corvette, and generally out-cooled all other divisions all the way up until the post-bankruptcy restructuring when it was unceremoniously and shamefully shown the door. No one is sure why that happened, either. Maybe the other divisions were jealous because Pontiacs kept running off with their prom dates.

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Back when this big Catalina was built, it would have come with Pontiac’s own V8, displacing either 389 or 421 cubic inches. This one, however, has been treated to that most common and effective of modern engine swaps: the LS conversion. It has a 5.3-liter LS small-block, most likely an LM7 or L59 truck engine, widely available in any junkyard. The seller – a dealership, in the interest of full disclosure – says that the conversion was “done right,” and that it runs great. The transmission is a four-speed manual, which they claim came from a mid-90s pickup, but the last four-speed manual available in a GM truck was the granny-low SM465 in 1991, and I doubt it’s one of those. It could be the original transmission, actually; the ’64 Catalina was available with a Muncie four-speed. It looks like some other updates have been made, like a modern dual-circuit power brake master cylinder, and hopefully disc brakes too. I’d have to see it in person, but it sure does look like somebody put some thought into this car.

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We don’t get any photos of the inside, which makes me think it’s pretty rough. So I’ll just have to show you more of the outside, particularly a ’60s design trait that never failed to look cool: stacked round headlights. Whether it’s on a Pontiac like this, a Ford Galaxie, a Plymouth Fury, or a Buick Riviera – especially with the clamshell covers – there’s just something about two stacks of headlights that makes a car look like it means business. I was confused, however, when I was young and found out that the low beams are on the top and the high beams are on the bottom. Shouldn’t it be the other way around? Actually, I’m still confused by that.

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It has an interesting paint job, almost like a World War I lozenge camouflage pattern. I’m not sure if that’s what they were going for, but that’s what it reminds me of. I don’t dislike it, but I wonder if I might get tired of it, and I worry a little about the rust situation under it. The trim is all intact and shiny, though, and it has chrome Chevy Astro wheels on it that suit it well.

1971 Datsun 510 – $4,900

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Image: Craigslist seller

Engine/drivetrain: 3.0-liter OHC V6, five-speed manual, RWD

Location: also Hillsboro, OR

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Odometer reading: unknown

Operational status: “Runs and drives” is all it says

Datsun’s 510 sedan, which arrived in the US for the 1968 model year, had a lot going for it: sharp contemporary looks, excellent handling from an independent semi-trailing-arm rear suspension, and everyday practicality. It didn’t have a lot of power; it only had a 1.6-liter L-series four backed by a four-speed manual. But early Datsuns have a Lego-like ability to upgrade parts easily, so a lot of 510s ended up with something more potent eventually. This is a new one on me, though; it has a VG30E V6 and five-speed transmission from a 300ZX under the hood. Mostly under it, anyway; it looks like they had to pound a bulge into the hood for clearance.

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I wish we had a view under the hood, though, because I’m curious how well it was done. The VG30E is fuel-injected, something Nissan hadn’t even dreamed of when this car was built, and it requires an ECU and a whole lot more electrical wiring to make it work. With luck, whoever did the conversion just took the whole wiring harness from the 300ZX and transplanted it into this car, but I fear a mess of splices, crimp connectors, and tape. According to the ad, the car has some other updates, including rear disc brakes, a fuel cell, and rack-and-pinion steering to go along with the added power. They do say it runs and drives, but that could mean a whole range of functionality. If it does run well, I bet it’s quick.

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It’s largely gutted inside, with no door panels, carpet, or headliner. I imagine that’s an aftermarket standalone ECU on the transmission tunnel, and a bank of cheap gauges have been stuck on the dash to give you information on the V6’s health. There’s no passenger’s seat, and the driver’s seat has been replaced by a racing-style seat. The presence of lots of stick-on sound insulation and what look like power window switches makes me think someone had a lot of unrealized plans for this car.

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Outside, I think it looks worse than it is. There’s some rust, but I don’t think even lifelong West Coast 510s have been rust-free since Simon & Simon went off the air. The floors, rockers, and door sills look all right, and the seller says it’s fine structurally. It may never be a thing of great beauty, but I imagine it will hold together well enough. If you do paint it, though, first figure out a more elegant way of clearancing that hood. That bulge just looks like a welt or a hernia.

Engine swaps aren’t for everyone. Some people prefer the sure knowledge that a car’s Haynes manual actually matches what’s under the hood. I’m typically one of them. But in the case of these, when other distinct improvements have been made along with the new engine, and the drivability is almost certainly improved by more modern engine management, I’m more inclined to look favorably on them. In both of these cars, it sounds like the hard part is done. It’s up to you to drive them home and make them pretty – or not, if you prefer. Which one speaks to you?

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Gubbin
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Gubbin
1 minute ago

Always a sucker for a Datsun, and 2-door 510s are overpriced and thin on the ground because they all got racecar’d back in the 90s. I’d probably hammer the VG30 until it broke and then swap in a newer Nissan 4-cylinder, or LEAF-swap it.

Bkp
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Bkp
10 minutes ago

Nostalgia vote for the Pontiac, we had a similar vintage Pontiac when I was growing up (different model & year, 1966 LeMans). That 510 looks like a big headache.

TK-421
TK-421
23 minutes ago

I voted for the 510, I’ve always thought they were cool. But I’m concerned by no images of the main point of interest, the engine.

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
20 minutes ago
Reply to  TK-421

No worries, around here you get what you pay for: Internet dollars for internet dreams.

Scott
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Scott
39 minutes ago

The Datsun looks much iffier than the Catalina, but the Pontiac is just too big for me, and I’ve always loved the shape and size of the 510, so even though it’s sure to lose, I voted for it.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
57 minutes ago

Datsun is trash. There are no underhood pics, interior is stripped clear, and that looks like black primer, so don’t only count on rust because it’s an old Datsun, but also because primer is not a sealer, so I’d expect it to be much worse in person.

XLEJim700
XLEJim700
1 hour ago

I’ll take the Cat of Many Colors.

John Crouch
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John Crouch
1 hour ago

My heart is with the 410. I had a 71-fantastic car, but that one is too ugh for me. Cruise in the Catalina is my way to go here. The camo is kinda cool but like Mark it might get old quick. Easy change with a wrap though.

Millermatic
Millermatic
1 hour ago

“Cholecystectomy.” Such a great word…that I can’t pronounce. Welcome to the club.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
1 hour ago

The Pontiac looks like a finished or mostly finished project that looks like has a passenger seat.

The Datsun looks like an unfinished project with a missing passenger seat. I’ll go for the finished/mostly finished project that has passenger seats… even if it’s being sold by a dealer who likely doesn’t know shit about the build.

Harvey Firebirdman
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Harvey Firebirdman
2 hours ago

The Pontiac all the way even with the goofy camo. With the LS swap even if the body was shot seems like a fair price for a running LS and trans if you wanted to pull them and put them in another project. Also the Pontiac styling wise is nice to look at.

AircooleDrew
AircooleDrew
2 hours ago

I’ll take the 510. Regardless of rattiness, I just love those things and would have a lot of fun with it.

Glad you’re recovering well from the Gallbladder removal. I got mine out when I was only 21, and it’s been a great 12 years since. That pain leading up to the removal is horrendous.

IRegertNothing, Esq.
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IRegertNothing, Esq.
2 hours ago

My immediate thought was to buy the Catalina and schedule a respray, but I don’t know. I think the new owner should drive it as is for a few months and see what happens. It might grow on them. And if the upcoming American Civil War 2.0 devolves into trench warfare, they already have the camo for their battle taxi in place.

Last edited 2 hours ago by IRegertNothing, Esq.
5VZ-F'Ever and Ever, Amen
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5VZ-F'Ever and Ever, Amen
2 hours ago

There’s a current global recall on gallbladders from late 60s through the mid 80s:

“Oil sludging may occur on high mileage models, leading to a build up of metal particles and obstruction. Corrosion may also occur, requiring IV antibiotics. The ECU will not throw a code until this process has progressed beyond repair, at which point you must be towed to the nearest dealer for prompt removal”

The Pontiac is gone from the dealer’s site, so someone agreed.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
2 hours ago

Most famous gall bladder reference since the audience call back response in the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Squirrelmaster
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Squirrelmaster
2 hours ago

I was set to vote for the Datsun going in, as the paint job alone on the Pontiac was enough for me to want to vote against it. But the Datsun is in rough shape, and as much as I loved my old 300ZX, there is no universe where I would want a VG30 swapped into anything – especially something smaller that would make it even harder to work on than the 300ZX. The Pontiac wins handily, stupid paint job and all.

JDE
JDE
2 hours ago

Poncho for the Daily for me.

Cyko9
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Cyko9
3 hours ago

I can’t believe I didn’t vote for the Datsun, but that is scary. The Pontiac is much more desireable and in decent condition.

PlugInPA
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PlugInPA
3 hours ago

The Datsun looks like it was used for parts and somebody tried to Frankenstein a car back together rather than a “project” as such.

Angry Bob
Angry Bob
3 hours ago

I really like that Pontiac. If it was near me, I’d might give the seller a call.

Hangover Grenade
Hangover Grenade
3 hours ago

That’s a screaming deal on the Pontiac.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
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The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
3 hours ago

Definitely voted for the Pontiac – this is a car I would be interested in if for sale locally.

I’m not a fan of engine swaps, but I can see the appeal of a modern fuel injected engine in a classic car. More power and improved reliability are never bad things. I also like the paint job. Further, you can see that the car at least has seats in all positions, so it’s got that going for it.

My only concern is that the Pontiac might be too good to be true. Assuming the swap was a 3/4 assed effort or better, the undercarriage isn’t crusty, and the interior isn’t a total disaster (i.e. mold or other biohazard), this seems like an incredible deal at $3,995.

ChefCJ
ChefCJ
3 hours ago

As routine as it seems, gallbladders are no joke. Ask me how I know. Actually, don’t; it’s horrifying. Please take my advice and rest, get up and move a bit and rest a lot more, and please please avoid eating anything overly fatty for the next month. Again, don’t ask if you don’t want to know, and you probably don’t. Just wait a month or so before you do, then have a slice of bacon as a tester. It’s as good an idicator on how likely your body is to reject or accept something with a decent amount of fat, and as a plus it’s bacon. Glad you’re on the mend

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