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The New Fantasticar Is A Great Design Inspired By Mid-Century Turbine Concept Cars

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I think it’s safe to say that most attempts to bring the long-running gamma-ray-enhanced superhero family, the Fantastic Four, to the big screen have been, well, troubled. The 2005, 2007, and 2015 attempts were all, charitably, kind of crappy, but this most recent version actually seems promising. I’ve not seen it yet, but I have seen the trailer, and, more specifically, the fantastical car that’s known as the Fantasticar, and that’s what interests me most. So let’s talk about that.

Aesthetically, the new Fantastic Four:Something Something movie seems to take place in an alternate-universe version of 1960s America, and from what I can see, the look of everything is wonderful, with a design vocabulary that seems very well grounded in 1960s design concepts and themes, just pushed a bit further than what our reality managed.

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But I should show rather than just tell, since I have all these visual resources at my command. This isn’t a newspaper, after all. So here, check out the trailer, why not:

See what I mean? The design seems quite rooted in the 1960s, and, generally, the technology sort of does as well. That part is a bit tricky, as it’s technology clearly far beyond what we had available back then, or, in many areas, even now. I suppose what they really did is skin hyper-advanced technology like energy storage and hovering and freaking spacecraft in a skin of the 1960s-ish user-facing components.

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What I mean by this is the underlying tech is clearly far beyond reality’s 1960s, but the filmmakers have used 1960s-style switches and buttons and cathode ray tube displays and other things you actually see and touch and interact with. This way, things have a 1960s feel without being restricted by the grim realities of the actual 1960s. And the Fantastic Four’s car, the somewhat uncreatively-named Fantasticar, fits completely into this aesthetic/conceptual framework. Just look at the dashboard to see what I’m getting at:

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See all those toggle switches and CRT displays and analog gauges and big, chunky knobs? They’re obscuring the fact that the underlying (if fictional) tech is far more advanced than our present-day cars with their gleaming flat full-color touchscreens.

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It’s worth noting that the Fantasticar has quite a long history, first appearing way back in 1962, in the third issue of Fantastic Four, where it had a much more, um, bathtub-with-headlights sort of look:

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Also, I do have to say that I think the use of the word “colorful” when talking about the Fantastic Four costumes may be a bit of hyperbole, unless by “colorful” they mean “full of basically one color, blue.”

There were updates to the Fantasticar over the years, though almost all of them seemed to insist on not having a roof or windshield, which seems a bad idea for something that flew around at supersonic speeds. How did they talk to each other in there? Weren’t they cold? What about if it rained? Why were they so against having a damn roof?

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Happily for the ficttional fantastic family, this latest iteration appears to have a fully enclosed passenger compartment. As the name suggests, it’s a four seater, though somewhat unusually those seats appear to be in a diamond formation as opposed to two rows of two:

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I’d also like to note, with some glee, that the Fantasticar only appears to have lap belts, which is an extremely 1960s touch. I bet they didn’t even bother to use them most of the time.

From what I can see in the trailer, the automotive design overall seems very well considered, with a mix of what look like real-world cars and alternate-reality ones. For example, here it looks like there’s what may be a ’65-ish white Chrysler 300 next to a mustard-colored imaginary car that feels a bit like a cross between a Panhard and an NSU:

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That maroon car feels also a bit Panhard-ish in overall shape, but has some really exuberant American-style fins and bullet-style taillights there. And then there’s that Peel Trident-like microcar up there!

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Let’s zoom in for a closer look at that microcar:

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Oh yeah, that’s the stuff. This is the future we should have had. It looks like it’d be like driving a giant gumball machine, and it’s hard to find anything I don’t like about that.

I’m getting off-track, though. We’re here to talk about the Fantasticar, whose taillights I’m starting to think are actually exhaust ports, and not just taillights meant to resemble jet exhaust ports. If you have exhaust ports that generate a red light and get brighter when stopping or blink when turning, can they do double-duty as taillights? Would that be legal? Maybe the movie will go into just that, in an exciting 41-minute discussion of alternate-reality FMVSS regulations.

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Right, the Fantasticar! Let’s look at the overall design of this thing:

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I love it, personally. Especially those L-shaped front indicators on that lower fin-thing there, and the concentric-circle pattern grille. That front end and overall look of this thing feel a bit familiar, and while I haven’t heard anyone who worked on the film’s design overtly say this, I suspect the basic design concepts were taken from a few turbine car concept cars from the late 1950s and into the 1960s. The most famous of these is likely Chrysler’s Turbine Car from 1963-1964:

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There’s some clear references and similarities there, especially in the front end treatment, but I think the design inspirations actually go a bit further back, to the concept cars that defined the look of the Chrysler Turbine car. Before the Turbine Car, Chrysler had another turbine-based concept, called the Typhoon, from 1963:

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As you can see, the Typhoon’s styling was a bit more exuberant and removed from mainstream auto design than the Turbine Car, and I think you can see even more inspiration for the Fantasticar here. The Typhoon was designed by Charles Mashigan under the design direction of Elwood Engel, who Chrysler had poached from Ford. And it was a car from Engel’s time at Ford that I think provided the real basis for the Fantasticar’s design inspiration: the 1958 La Galaxie show car:

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The La Galaxie was intended to be a hint at upcoming Thunderbird styling ideas, but it also ended up becoming the seeds of what would become Chrysler’s turbine concept cars when Engel jumped ship. All of the crucial elements are there: the round, jet-intake-style headlights with the narrow, straight grille bridging them; long, sleek, pontoon-like sides that bow out up on top and cut inward as they drop; the semi bubble-top canopy, the wide and long and low proportions – while not all of these made it into the later Chrysler Turbine cars, almost all of these elements ended up in the Fantasticar.

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The Fantasticar has a fastback design as opposed to the La Galaxie’s notchback, but there’s a lot of similarities between the two vehicles, each fantastic in their own ways. But I think it’s in profile where the designs diverge the most:

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Even so, there’s definitely proportional and stylistic parallels here, even if they’re mixed around a bit, like which wheel is skirted or not.

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There’s definitely a lot of Turbine Car/Typhoon/La Galaxie in this latest Fantasticar, and I think those are all ideal choices for inspiration for such a machine. Now I’m excited to see this movie, if only for the cars, which is pretty much a major reason I go see any movie, if I’m honest. Maybe that’s why I was so disappointed with Gladiator II.

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Gerontius Garland
Gerontius Garland
1 month ago

All I can add is that I hope there are Hot Wheels and Lego versions I can buy.

Arthur Flax
Arthur Flax
1 month ago

That 60s turbolift, Jetsons, atomic tailfin gestalt is great. I would see the movie just to enjoy the glowing cathode ray tube vibe.

However, when the alien being asks the Beatles (Fab 4! Fantastic!) “Are you the protectors of this world?” and they answer yes, all I could think of was the famous line from Monty Python and the Holy Grail…”Who are you?….I’m your king…Well I didn’t vote for you!”

Rich Hobbs
Rich Hobbs
1 month ago

Great article! Love those concept cars. Keep em coming!

Elrond Hubbard
Elrond Hubbard
1 month ago

IMO, it looks like a blue stretch Pinto that cross-bred with a mini sub.

But I like the aesthetic, and that they’re sticking to the bit across all parts of the movie design. Plus that dashboard is *muh* chef’s kiss.

Beachbumberry
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Beachbumberry
1 month ago

Just saw the movie. Really liked it. Loved the cars

GLL
GLL
1 month ago

Dunno. I see the AMC Matador

MAX FRESH OFF
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MAX FRESH OFF
1 month ago
1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago

It seems like a movie made in the 60s about the future with modern movie technology. Although that trailer is abysmal. Spoiler alert invisible woman is pregnant and we know the father. And then stump hyperbole lines with flash takeoffs showing each members power. I’m not saying the movie is bad but the trailer does nothing to make me want to see it

Captain Muppet
Captain Muppet
1 month ago

I think that the problem with the Fantastic Four films is that unless you’re familiar with the comics you’re just going to assume you missed the first three films in the Fantastic series, so you won’t go to see the forth one.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 month ago

This is one area where the otherwise excellent new Superman fell flat. Lois Lane has a picture of the Nash Metropolitan on her desk in the newsroom but is seen driving a Bees Forks, and that’s about it with most other transportation being not carlike at all.

ShinyMetalAsp
ShinyMetalAsp
1 month ago

Back in college our Thermodynamics prof was discussing the attempted use of turbines for consumer cars in the 1960s. We asked why they never took off and he said he suspected it had to do with 1000 degree exhaust at shin level.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  ShinyMetalAsp

And not the inspiration for the electric food processor?

Vee
Vee
1 month ago
Reply to  ShinyMetalAsp

If I remember the articles from friend of the site Steve Lehto, the exhaust on the Chrysler Turbine Car was just barely above ambient unless you kept it floored for a little while. The heat scavenging was apparently a very happy side-effect of their efforts to keep the thing quiet. Your shower gets hotter than the exhaust air from a Turbine Car.

ShinyMetalAsp
ShinyMetalAsp
1 month ago
Reply to  Vee

Brayton cycle exhaust is around 1000 F, but you are right – the engineers factored that in. I dug around a bit with your input and got to learn something new. Thanks much!

Sofonda Wagons
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Sofonda Wagons
1 month ago

This is what happens when some stylist playing around together take LSD.

Brunsworks
Brunsworks
1 month ago

The Fantastic Four got their powers as a result of exposure to cosmic rays, not gamma rays as you state at the beginning of this article. Gamma rays tend to make Hulks in the Marvel universes.

TheCoryJihad
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TheCoryJihad
1 month ago
Reply to  Brunsworks

And I thought Jason was a nerd. Clearly we were all duped.

DNF
DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  Brunsworks

Mostly useful for sterilizing.
Maybe the best method for shelf stable everything, including raw meat.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  Brunsworks

Nerd good call

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
1 month ago

I’m also seeing quite a bit of Mon Mothma’s LimoSpeeder…
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/JPP-192_limospeeder

Trayambak Chakravarty
Trayambak Chakravarty
1 month ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

I think Mon Mothma’s car was based on the 1962 Lincoln Continental

TheCoryJihad
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TheCoryJihad
1 month ago

That’s probably why I like it so much.

Chris Stevenson
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Chris Stevenson
1 month ago

Sure beat the one that was supposedly a Dodge in one of the prior movies.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago

Overall, I see a lot of dick Teague’s 1974-1978 AMC Matador Coupe plus a few callbacks to his Packard concept cars, and a healthy hint of Dutch Darren’s work for Kaiser.

Oh, and a pair of 63 galaxy tail lights I think

I think I’m going to go see the movie, from what I understand it is a lot more Jack Kirby than it is Stan Lee.

Fantastic four issue 51 was a huge influence on me artistically, the whole idea of illustrating the negative zone and nothingness was the gateway drug to John Cage, Marcel Duchamp and the velvet underground.

Jewish superheroes seem to be having a moment this summer.

TheCoryJihad
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TheCoryJihad
1 month ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

It is definitely more of a Kirby influenced flick. They also don’t shy away from the Judaism for Ben too. Well worth the watch, particularly in IMAX.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  TheCoryJihad

Ben is my favorite character, he’s always “I never asked for this” but also always steps up when he has to, sort of “someone has to do this and nobody else is, so I guess it’s on me” a lot of the superheroes are basically psychopaths, and want to be out superheroing.

At least when I stopped reading them, which was a long time ago.

Ottomadiq
Ottomadiq
1 month ago

Firebird IV / Buick Century Cruiser play a heavy hand in the proportions and surfacing as well.

Luxobarge
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Luxobarge
1 month ago
Reply to  Ottomadiq

Yep, came here to say this. Those front fins are clearly taken from the Firebird IV.

Can’t link text right now, so forgive the raw URL: https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/digital-collections/artifact/38755

Luxobarge
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Luxobarge
1 month ago
Reply to  Luxobarge

Oh, yeah, look at the rear 3/4 view of the Firebird IV. There’s much more GM than Chrysler in the movie car.

M. Park Hunter
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M. Park Hunter
1 month ago

The movie is, er, fantastic. Fun and funny and gorgeous. The visual design is such that I want to move into the world.

The Fantasticar gets some good, visceral chase scenes, plus a funny extended scene at the end as the guys try to buckle in a car seat. Which, now that you point out it’s a four-seater, means someone is going to have to walk (or “flame on!”).

Last edited 1 month ago by M. Park Hunter
Maymar
Maymar
1 month ago

There were several period-correct concepts that went with the sort of reverse teardrop side profile (the Ford Cougar II and GM Runabout concepts are the first ones coming to mind for me, but I’m sure if you dig there are plenty).

https://www.motorcities.org/story-of-the-week/2020/mckinley-thompson-jr-helped-design-a-1963-cougar-ii-concept
https://www.reddit.com/r/RetroFuturism/comments/z20x8c/the_runabout_gms_1964_concept_car_with_three/

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 month ago

Back in late fifties or vey early sixties, I had a toy car that looked remarkably like the Fantasticar. Can’t even begin to remember who made it or where I got it, but it was my favorite toy car until I discovered Jeeps. I’ll look around the Net and if I can find a photo with a link I’ll put it up.

CTSVmkeLS6
CTSVmkeLS6
1 month ago

Looks like a 70s AMC Matador coupe… which I will surely see a lot of at the AMC carshow in Kenosha this week. Worlds largest concentration of AMCs/Nash etc cars at one time. I’ll count how many Pacers and let the team know!

Mr E
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Mr E
1 month ago

My first thought upon seeing the top image was a futuristic Chevy Vega.

Also, how perfect that Charles Mashigan was from…Michigan.

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
1 month ago
Reply to  Mr E

Ha! Vega was my first thought too, because I owned one.

Mr E
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Mr E
1 month ago
Reply to  Frank Wrench

Sorry about that! 🙂

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
1 month ago
Reply to  Mr E

Actually fond memories. Went 125k without any mechanical problems until it rusted out horribly. 1st car, hand me down

Mr E
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Mr E
1 month ago
Reply to  Frank Wrench

In that case…awesome!

DNF
DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  Frank Wrench

I’m told a third of the blocks were reliable.
Mercedes style aluminum blocks.
Knew someone that raced them.
Like 12 cylinder jags, improve cooling and you had a survivor.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 month ago
Reply to  DNF

The story I’d heard is that the GM Proving Ground in those days was run by a bunch of former drill sergeants who were very strict about following maintenance procedures for the expensive prototypes entrusted to them. Which meant they weren’t “proving” enough and it costs the company even more money when problems didn’t become known until cars got into customers hands.

DNF
DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

I could see that happening.

D-dub
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D-dub
1 month ago

It’s an automotive Push Me Pull You. You could convince me that either end is the front.

Jrubinsteintowler
Jrubinsteintowler
1 month ago

I frankly find the Firebird IV fin on the front flanks to be fantastic.

Tbird
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Tbird
1 month ago

Am I the only person who thinks Pedro Pascal looks a lot like ’70s era Burt Reynolds? We need a modern Bandit remake!

Tbird
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Tbird
1 month ago
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I can totally see Pedro hooning a ’77 Trans Am with a modern Sally Fields in the passenger seat.

Hangover Grenade
Hangover Grenade
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

Now with 100% less slurs than the original!

Tbird
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Tbird
1 month ago

yeah — seeing it as an adult that film has a LOT of problems I didn’t see as a child.

Still a guilty pleasure film. Born 1976 BTW.

Last edited 1 month ago by Tbird
Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

I’ve had this problem with a lot of movies I enjoyed as a kid, started trying to watch Gremlins with my kids and turned it off because it was just not okay anymore.

Last edited 1 month ago by Max Headbolts
Tbird
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Tbird
1 month ago
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Yep, I have a 20 yr old daughter. She is pretty chill and understands that standards have changed over time.

She enjoyed Gremlins.

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Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

Yeah mine were 11 and 13 at the time, so we just watched Pokemon or something they actually wanted to watch in the first place.

Tbird
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Tbird
1 month ago
Reply to  Max Headbolts

My daughter always wanted to connect with me. Indiana Jones, old Bond films… she was there. We recently went to a live ‘Rocky Horror’ event together (I was NOT the virgin).

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

Mine are starting to come around, we have a very old theater locally (built in like 1923) that we’ve been going to this summer for old movies. They have been a lot more interested than they used to be, and regularly ask when we can go back.

Tbird
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Tbird
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

Bigger problem is my wife who refuses to indulge my old film desires. I’m amazed we actually saw ‘Jaws’ in Baltimore 2 weeks ago with the orchestra performing the score live. She tends to hate ‘old’ movies.

I still consider ‘Raiders of the Lost Ark’ to be the greatest action/adventure film ever made. Everything that came after is derivative, except maybe ‘Temple of Doom’. The best Star Wars film is ‘Empire Strikes Back’.

Get off my lawn!

Hautewheels
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Hautewheels
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

Dude – Indiana Jones movies (as well as the original SW trilogy) are totally derivative of 1930’s, 40’s and 50’s serials and films like Flash Gordon and the Allan Quartermain movies, etc., right down to the plots and filming conventions like the circular dissolve, etc.

Not to diminish them in any way – I enjoy them too. And I agree that ESB is the best SW film. Have you seen Adywan’s A New Hope Revisited and Empire Strikes Back Revisited? They’re even better than the originals, IMHO. I hope he’s around long enough to complete RotJ Revisited.
https://swrevisited.wordpress.com/

Colin Greening
Colin Greening
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

I take my last comment back, there’s a non-zero chance you’re an alternate-dimension older version of me.

DNF
DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

You know Raiders is deliberately derivative?
Ever read the Doc Savage series?

DNF
DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

Why would anyone feel uncomfortable if you didn’t write or produce it?
Movies are heavily constrained by backers anyway!
” Exactly the way you wrote it, but starring a cat!”
Do we have a deal?

Hangover Grenade
Hangover Grenade
1 month ago
Reply to  Max Headbolts

I watched the original Beetlejuice recently with my 9-year-old daughter. Totally forgot about the brothel. Whoopsie!

Colin Greening
Colin Greening
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

There’s a non-zero chance you’re my dad.

LTDScott
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LTDScott
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

Or Cannonball Run, with Jack Black playing Captain Chaos.

Tbird
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Tbird
1 month ago
Reply to  LTDScott

That was such a shit film any remake would be better. “The Gumball Rally” is superior in all ways, including cars.

LTDScott
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LTDScott
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

Gonna have to strongly disagree here, but chalk it up to nostalgia. I’ve seen that movie more times than I can count and can quote half of the dialog.

Tbird
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Tbird
1 month ago
Reply to  LTDScott

Even Burt and Dom couldn’t rescue that turd.

DNF
DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  Tbird

It’s not him?

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