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These Are The Two Best And Worst Car Brands To Try To Get A Deal From Before Christmas

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It’s that time of year when some people buy a car and put a giant bow on it. It’s also the time of year when our deep personal beliefs start to sometimes come into conflict with those of our loved ones. I have a friend who is Happy Honda Days, and he married into a Lexus December to Remember family, and they’re making it work, but I’d be lying if I said it was always easy for them.

The Morning Dump doesn’t take a stand in any direction (Full disclosure: I’m non-practicing Ford Truck Month). I will, however, help you make some decisions if you’re heading toward the end of the year and you’re thinking about buying a new car. There’s a chart, and this chart is very instructive about what might be a good deal and what might not be.

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Volkswagen considered building a plant in the United States for Audi in order to get around tariffs, but you need money to make investments, and VW is a little short on financing right now. Mazda also isn’t exactly flush with cash, but it’s coming out with an EV in North America for… reasons.

How are British automakers doing? JLR was en route to a very profitable year, but a cyberattack is about to take a huge bite out of the company’s prospects. Ineos, the company that makes Land Rover-looking trucks, is cutting back dramatically in order to save money.

Let’s dump!

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It’s A Good Time To Buy A Jeep, Always A Challenging Time To Buy A Lexus

2025 Lexus LX 700h
Photo: Thomas Hundal

There are two charts that I look at to see what the total market picture looks like for cars. One shows Average Transaction Price (ATP) versus incentive spending, and this gives you a nice historical view of where prices are trending.

Sept 2025 Atp Charts Incentives 1 Large
Chart: KBB/Cox Automotive

You can see the pandemic in there, you can see prices stabilizing out of the pandemic, and incentive spend coming back. You can sort of see the tariffs, but you can definitely see the little rise in price due to the high mix of electric cars sold before the expiration of the tax credit. That’s good for looking backwards, but here’s the chart, also from Cox Automotive, that I look at to make some predictions going forward:

October Inventory Chart

This is “Days’ Supply,” which is a simple measure that looks at how much inventory a brand has versus how many days it takes for that brand to sell a car. On average, this number is 88 days (go SvG!), which is higher than the 50-60 days that usually signify a healthy balance between supply and demand. Anyone to the right of the average has a lot of cars, and anyone to the left of the line is a little tight, although there are a few standouts here that are worth talking about.

On the side of “we don’t have enough cars” are Lexus and Toyota. It’s pretty much always like this. While this is very model-by-model and dealer-by-dealer specific, anyone who has tried to buy a Toyota or Lexus at any point in the last few years isn’t going to be surprised by this chart. If you’re looking for a good deal from one of those two brands, you’d better be a great negotiator, because anything under 50 signifies that a brand is selling every car it can make.

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For both Toyota and Lexus, this represents a huge amount of demand (they are great, popular cars) and also Toyota’s historic resistance to overbuilding at the risk of profits.

There are two obvious cars on the other end of the spectrum that you’ll notice. The first is Lincoln at 155 days. Lincoln, as a brand, had a strong 2024, thanks in part to the Lincoln Nautilus. Unfortunately for the brand, that car is made in China, and selling Chinese-built cars suddenly got a lot harder. This year, Lincoln has sold more Navigators, but Nautilus sales have dropped. In October, Nautilus’ sales plummeted 28.5% year-over-year.

Is this demand or supply? It’s probably both, as Cars.com shows a lot of cars which, matched to slowing sales, probably result in the increase. I think this means it’s a good time to make a deal at a Lincoln dealer on anything that isn’t a new Navigator.

Jeep, too, has a lot of cars, and this is probably some of both as well. Cox says that inventory for Cherokee, Compass, and Wrangler rose this month:

Looking at mainstream brands, recent inventory trends reveal that some manufacturers may be edging toward overstocked territory as consumer demand shifts. Cadillac’s days’ supply surged by 15% from a month earlier, signaling a potentially risky buildup if sales don’t keep up. Jeep’s situation is even more pronounced, with a 24% jump in days’ supply and a 13% increase in inventory, driven by models like the Cherokee, Compass and Wrangler, putting the brand at a high-water mark for 2025 and close to having more vehicles than the market might absorb.

For low-volume brands, Porsche’s inventory level rose 12%, a substantial increase that could lead to excess supply if demand softens. Even Mazda and Mercedes-Benz, with slower sales, are accumulating more vehicles on their lots, which may force them to rethink their strategies if these trends continue. Bottom line? Automakers are walking a fine line, and rising inventories could quickly shift from strategic flexibility to a liability if stock outpaces sales momentum.

If you are thinking about buying a car soon, I’d just look at this chart, and it’ll give you a reasonable idea of who may or may not be willing to deal.

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Audi… Boy, I Don’t Know

Audi8
Source: Audi

I often wonder if there was someone at Audi HQ these last few years going: Yeah, yeah, all of this makes sense. What if we never changed anything important, made a bunch of also-ran electric vehicles, and just completely lost sight of what made us special?

Audi seems to sort of get it and is nodding towards getting its act back together. Unfortunately, the one source of consistent income for the company was selling Audi Q5s in the United States. Because that vehicle is built in Mexico and isn’t even USMCA-compliant, it’s sort of a disaster for the company. There goes any real possibility of a profit.

The solution for that would be to build a plant in the United States, but it’s not clear that Volkswagen can afford that right now, at least according to recent reports rounded up by Automotive News:

Volkswagen Group’s supervisory board has postponed the approval of its multi-billion-euro investment package, the German newspaper Bild reported, citing several sources from within the automaker.

The delay casts a shadow over future planning for new models and capital expenditure across its nearly 100 global plants.

Projects such as a potential Audi factory in the U.S. will be difficult to realize because the capital for it is not available, Bild reported.

VW has a financing gap of about €11 billion for investments for next year alone, Bild said.

The investment market is full-on shook right now, so raising all that money may not be as easy as it was a few years ago.

Who Is The Mazda EV For?

Mazda Mx 30
Source: Mazda

Mazda famously sold one of the most unlikely and unusable electric cars in the form of the super-low range, expensive MX-30. The company sells a RWD Mazda 6 EV in Europe, but it’s China-built, so that’s a nonstarter here.

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The company has been testing a version of its EV in California, and Automotive News has the spy shots:

The body of the engineering prototype is a downsized version of the flagship CX-90 crossover.

The midsize EV could be unveiled as early as 2027 and go on sale in 2028. While EV adoption rates have slowed considerably in the U.S., the market remains Mazda’s biggest and most profitable.

Mazda declined to comment on specific future product programs but said its U.S. R&D team conducts routine testing of technologies and features that will help the company continue to provide the best experiences for customers.

More hybrids and, sure, maybe make an EV. I hope it’s good, but I don’t see how Mazda can make it affordable.

Ineos, Woof, JLR, Double Woof

Land Rover Defender Beach Break
Source: Land Rover

I’m definitely in the bag for Land Rover. I am an admirer of the new Defender and was glad to see the company was on its way to a profitable year… until that pesky Cyberattack. And tariffs. Always tariffs.

Per Bloomberg:

The Range Rover maker said Friday its profit margin for the full year could now be entirely wiped out, having previously targeted as high as 7%. It now expects free cash burn of as much as £2.5 billion ($3.3 billion), after previously aiming for little change.

The company, owned by India’s Tata Motors Passenger Vehicles Ltd., slumped to a loss after tax of £559 million for the three months through September, compared to a profit a year earlier, in part due to £196 million of costs related to the hack.

How are things over at Ineos, which makes the Defender that doesn’t look like the new Defender but kind of like the old one? Per The Guardian, not great either:

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The carmaker owned by the billionaire industrialist Jim Ratcliffe will make hundreds of job cuts across the company’s global workforce as his heavily indebted empire comes under increasing pressure.

Ineos Automotive did not specify an exact number of losses from its 1,700-strong workforce, saying only that it would shed “several hundred” head office staff across multiple locations, including the UK and parts of Europe.

The company owned by Ratcliffe, who also co-owns Manchester United, said the “strategic measures to structure its business” would help to simplify its head office and improve efficiency.

Building cars is hard.

What I’m Listening To While Writing TMD

David was very excited to tell me that Hilary Duff has a new song called “Mature.” I will always stan a fellow Houston kid who grew up in the ’80s. [Ed Note: Hilary Duff was my first celeb-crush when I was about…13. -DT]

The Big Question

You have $45,000 to buy a single new car. What are you getting?

Top photo: DepositPhotos.com for the dealership, Stock.Adobe.com for the guys

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Stryker_T
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Stryker_T
1 month ago

I should be more forward thinking and responsible and go PHEV and associated equipment for charging in my garage, but I only mainly drive for pleasure now, so GT86.

BagoBoiling
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BagoBoiling
1 month ago

You have $45,000 to buy a single new car. What are you getting?
The base model Rivian R2
I really hope they can keep that $45K starting price. For their sake and mine

Guido Sarducci
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Guido Sarducci
1 month ago

Eh, I’d add another $3k to that 45 and buy a Golf R. I have a 2024 that i purchased for $45k. This is my second R, first was a 2018. Love the car, still issues at times with the stupid haptic controls on the steering wheel after 1 year ownership, but overall the car satisfies my desires; handles well, fast (I have an IE stage 1 tune, so right at 400 HP), all wheel drive, rides well, comfortable, great fuel mileage, and I can fit all kinds of crap in the hatch if necessary, when the rear seats are down. YMMV.

Porschebago
Porschebago
1 month ago

For $45K i would buy a Mini John Cooper Works 2 door hatch.

Yes, I’m a nut.

86-GL
86-GL
1 month ago

For that price, in a new car, I’d probably be looking at a Mach E GT.

Not crazy about the tall centre screen, but the 12” sync 4 unit in my F150 Lariat is great, so I can’t see the more sophisticated version being an issue.

I don’t care for all software perks and self driving BS that Tesla heads claim makes the Model 3 or Y superior- (My other car is a Volvo 240) plus the whole Elon thing- so that’s out. I’ve driven a 3 and it was fast as fuck, but otherwise the car did nothing for me.

I like the idea of the Hyundai EVs as well, especially the Ioniq 5- but they just aren’t that special in real life. Something about the Mach E stance and wheel and tire package just gets me- That little bit of Focus RS DNA makes all the difference.

I also like the Chevy Equinox EV. If we’re talking ICE, I would maybe look at a CRV hybrid, or a Volvo V60. I really want to like Volvo and Polestar’s EVs, but the infotainment looks horrible. As a Volvo fan and someone who studied industrial design, I just can’t reward them for the 2-button + touch window control thing.

Last edited 1 month ago by 86-GL
NosrednaNod
NosrednaNod
1 month ago

On average, this number is 88 days (go SvG!)

…. I have bad news for you…. He isn’t 88 anymore….

Last edited 1 month ago by NosrednaNod
B3n
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B3n
1 month ago

For $45k I’d get a PHEV.
Not quite ready to go full EV yet, also wouldn’t want to eat the steep depreciation.
Alas, I’m very far away from being able to afford a $45k vehicle.

Aron9000
Aron9000
1 month ago

Id have to get me a Ford F150 for 45k. RCSB XL, 4wd 5.0 v8. The 5.0 v8 is standard, only option is 4wd which is a ridiculous $5000.

Or maybe a C7 Corvette manual, something that is 10 years old, had 5,000 miles and has only been parked outside overnight when it was sitting on the dealers lot. Im young and single, eff the back seat

Jb996
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Jb996
1 month ago

Miata is always the answer.

Parsko
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Parsko
1 month ago

Maverick Hybrid, Mach-E, or Kia EV6.

Kmeister
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Kmeister
1 month ago

At $45k I would be looking at the Integra with 6MT

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
1 month ago

If I had to start shopping tomorrow for a new car with a $45k budget, I’d be test driving the following, somewhat in order of interest:

Crown Signia, Prius PHEV, Mach E, Maverick Hybrid, Ioniq 5, Niro PHEV, CX-50 Hybrid, Forester Hybrid

Dinklesmith
Dinklesmith
1 month ago
Reply to  Vic Vinegar

Have a Mach E. Can confirm its a FANTASTIC car

Inthemikelane
Inthemikelane
1 month ago

Punched my requirements for any color combo that wasn’t the boring four (black, grey, silver or white), with whatever luxuries available into a 500 mile search engine sorted by highest price capped at $45k. The top two that had multiple hits were the Mazda CX-5 Signature and the Subaru Forester Touring.

Oddly, the first so many are red for both makes. The CX-5 exterior in red is sweet, but that mileage, no thanks. There’s a Forester hybrid ( decent mileage), with the brown leather seats and a nice looking interior. Despite the CVT, I’m surprisingly attracted to something I would have never considered.

Old Rusty and Somewhat Broken
Old Rusty and Somewhat Broken
1 month ago

These probably are not the most common choices, but for $45k I’d take one of either a Ford Ranger with the 2.7 Ecoboost V6 to replace my 32 year old beater Ranger with half a million miles, a Nissan Z to match my 300zx TT, or maybe I could find a leftover VW Golf R and squeeze under that $45K mark?

The Dude
The Dude
1 month ago

$45k? Probably a TLX or an IS.

Boulevard_Yachtsman
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Boulevard_Yachtsman
1 month ago

$45K? Turns out a base CT4 starts right there, so new Caddy Sedan it would be.

Last edited 1 month ago by Boulevard_Yachtsman
05LGT
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05LGT
1 month ago

If it has to be a new car, and availability isn’t an issue because “make believe”… Prius plug-in with a solar roof and a couple more options.

CatMan
CatMan
1 month ago

I would spend my fantasy bucks on the new Prelude

LMCorvairFan
LMCorvairFan
1 month ago

I’d avoid the fire sale Jeep products. Since RTO is now a thing in my neck of the woods, I’d lease a Mazda CX-70, minimize the downpayment, put the rest in an ETF and use the tax write off to pay for the car.

Xx Yy Zz
Xx Yy Zz
1 month ago

I kind of hate what I’m going to say, but I guess I would spend that hypothetical $45 000 on a CUV about the size of a Corolla Cross. Something like a SWB Sportage, a Korando, a CX-30, a Qashqai with an X-Tronic gearbox, or a Karoq.

No More Crossovers
No More Crossovers
1 month ago

Saying a used car is cheating so I’m picking a wrx. It’s still kinda ugly but it’s growing on me, like my grandma’s dog.

No More Crossovers
No More Crossovers
1 month ago

Yeah, this is an imaginary scenario where I have 45k in cash and a mysterious stranger is making me spend it in a day.

Goof
Goof
1 month ago

>You have $45,000 to buy a single new car. What are you getting?

I did exactly this earlier this year right before tariffs were announced. $45K bought, shipped, sales & excise tax on a loaded W204 C63 AMG Edition 507 earlier this year.

I suppose it’s , “new to me”, but it’s ten pounds of 6.2L V8 engine in five pounds of car.

I’m now in the process of exhaustively restoring it to where it’ll seem like it’s maybe a year old with better-than-showroom paint. I bought a driver though! It’ll accumulate miles for another 40 years. While devouring tires. Might do headers and a light tune on it.

Got the best plate, too: NOISES

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