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This 42-Year-Old Letter To A Computer Magazine Brings Up An Interesting Point About A 1916 Cadillac

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Like most of us on the Autopian staff, after cars I have a sort of secondary obsession. I think we all do? Mercedes has trains and airplanes, Thomas has his tight pants, Adrian has his disdain and Legos, Matt has his weird testosterone-supplement MLM thing, David has his having no idea what goes on in most of pop culture, and so on, just to give you an idea. And I have my ridiculous and archaic old computers. Well, the other day I happened to find a really strange and, I think, interesting overlap of my two ridiculous obsessions.

This overlap came in the form of a letter to the editor in the February 1983 issue of Byte, the Small Systems Journal, as they say. This issue is a pretty exciting one, as the cover story is about the then-new Apple //e (the computer I got for my Bar Mitzvah) and the Apple Lisa, Apple’s pre-Macintosh first foray into the world of graphical user interfaces and mouse-driven interactions.

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Here’s the cover, in case you’re looking for it on your highly organized shelving system or in one of the piles that surround the bare, strangely perpetually damp mattress that serves as your bed (or both):

Byte Feb82 Cover

There’s also that one lonely word “STANDARDS” at the lower corner of the cover, which is sort of a theme for the issue – there’s articles about standards for the BASIC programming language, text, graphics, serial interfaces, and more. Earlier issues seem to have addressed this as well, because this issue contains this letter that caught my attention:

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Before I get into the subject of this letter and the path of thought it led me down, it’s worth noting that Fred K. Fox is something of a legend, especially in the Studebaker collector and historical community. He’s written hundreds of articles about Studebakers and their history and arguably, the definitive book about the marque, Studebaker: The Complete Story. So this isn’t just a letter from some basement-dwelling computer geek, this is from a legitimate automotive expert.

That maybe explains why the automotive metaphor referenced in the letter stuck out to the fantastic Mr.Fox so much: it was about cars, and it was kind of wrong. And even before the internet, many of us can’t have someone be wrong, in any mass media, about cars. It seems the article Fox read was also one about standards, which stated that pretty much anyone could “climb into the typical automobile of 1925 and drive it away,” suggesting that cars had managed to become standardized with regard to basic user interface controls pretty early, and computer interfaces should follow suit.

Of course, Fox’s beef with this was a very valid one, noting that in 1925, about half of the cars on America’s roads were Ford Model Ts, which used a completely different setup of pedals and levers to operate it. The steering wheel would work as expected, at least.

Fred Fox’s point is well-taken, but it also begs the question: when did the standard pedals/shifter/steering wheel/other basic controls standards actually appear? And what was the first car to put them all together, and be something that pretty much anyone (well, anyone who can drive stick) could drive today?

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Well, the first car that is generally accepted to have basic controls arranged as we understand them today is the 1916 Cadillac Type 53.

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This isn’t to say that after 1916 all cars magically conformed to the standards that our muscle memories know, but that this Caddy seems to have been the first to incorporate all of the big key features in places we generally expect to still find them today: clutch, brake, and throttle pedals, in that order, a gearshift and handbrake in the middle of the floor, in front of the seats, a key-operated starter, and, of course, a steering wheel.

1916 Caddy Controls

I don’t think Cadillac designed this car with the goal or expectation of setting a basic standard that would last over a century and counting; I think they just arrived at a workable combination of elements that had been being experimented with for about two or more decades at that point, more if we want to go back to the early steam era.

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It seems to have caught on, though, and while there were still plenty of cars that did not adhere to this layout – all those Model Ts, for example, or things like the 1925 Hanomag I drove years ago that had a central gas pedal – eventually pretty much every car came around to this standard arrangement of controls.

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I suppose the question now is, as Fred Fox wondered, have we now arrived at a standard way to interact with computers, like we have with cars? In a way, I think we have, and it’s hinted at on the cover of the very magazine that started us down this rabbit hole. It’s that Lisa, the start of mass-market graphical interfaces on computers. It was a failure, but it’s successor, the Mac, was not, and from there we got Windows and all the other GUIs and I think the basics of that – windows, mouse, clicking, pull-down menus, and so on – are a standard on par with car pedal arrangements.

We’re also well into another standard for touch interfaces – pinching and spreading fingers to zoom in and out, scrolling, tapping, all that – so I think overall, we actually are doing okay with human interface standards. So much so that we can now be annoyed with touch screens in cars, which feels like some kind of closure of a cycle.

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1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
5 minutes ago

Can we call it basic configuration now that we have Tesla bad ideas?

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
2 hours ago

Ever notice how there is no consistency between POS credit card terminals? They all have their buttons, tap pads, screen layouts/prompts, etc. in different places and layouts. I’ve even seen ones branded by the same bank in the same establishment that are different from each other. It’s incredibly stupid. It’s especially annoying when you are in a dark restaurant and try to operate one from muscle memory. All the buttons are mapped differently!

I think you could probably say the same for the payment consoles on gas pumps. Extra fun when the tiny LCD display is washed out by the sun.

EmotionalSupportBMW
EmotionalSupportBMW
2 hours ago

Fun standardization fact: To this day, bicycles in America and France have the front brake on the left side. While UK, Italy and most other places it’s on the right. Why? Well, there’s no universally accepted answer. There’s theories. But, overall it just sort of happened. And it’s only recently that left front is starting to take over globally. Mainly because with internal routing of cables, it’s cheaper to manufacture one standard. And most major bike manufacturers (The Big S, Trek, Cannondale) are US based.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
2 hours ago

I remember riding a very old Moto Guzzi (don’t recall the model) where the gear and the rear brake pedals where reversed. It was a head scratcher, especially since the owner didn’t warn me in advance.

Dodsworth
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Dodsworth
1 hour ago

Long ago I rode a friend’s Norton 850 Commando with the same setup. At least he told me.

Brody Jones
Brody Jones
2 hours ago

I’d say the standardization of most computers operating fairly similarly only really started getting a lot of traction with Windows 95.
The Mac, Amiga, Atari ST, and the C64 with GEOS had proper modern-esque GUIs by around 1987 where pretty much any modern user of any modern OS can pretty quickly pick them up and use them, but I’d say most people would have a hard time navigating pretty much anything available for IBM PCs and compatibles before Win95 (excluding dealing with drivers — using PCs sucked way more than anything else until like Win2k. At least you got most of the best games).
It just so happens that x86 PC’s were significantly more popular than anything else combined by the late 80’s, so even though GUIs were pretty standardized by, again, around 1987 or so, the majority of people wouldn’t get to experience one for another 8 years.

I will say that earlier in the 80s the computer-usage experience was also fairly standardized since everything (Other than those pesky IBMs, again) ran some variation of BASIC. So while you diffidently would have to readjust to each systems different dialect and memory locations and stuff there was a lot of interchangeable knowledge with simple, high-level programming. And since the biggest systems (The Vic20/C64 and Apple ][) both used 6502’s a lot of the basics for assembler where around the same. So, arguably, if you are highly familiar with BASIC in the modern era for some reason past the normal 10 PRINT “HELLO WORLD” things most 8-bit micros are relatively familiar.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
1 hour ago
Reply to  Brody Jones

Command line is such a joy to use. So streamlined. So efficient.

And Win 3.1 was the demarcation, not Win95.

I still contend that the best-ever version of Windows was XP Pro.

Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
20 minutes ago
Reply to  Brody Jones

Supposedly, as soon as Steve Jobs saw the Xerox Alto demonstrated, he just knew immediately, from first glance, that that was how computers – all computers – were going to operate in the future, it had to be, because it made complete sense. He later said he regretted not spending more time learning and asking questions about some of the other innovations and research going on at Xerox PARC, because the GUI on the Alto consumed basically his and his team’s entire attention and that was really the only takeaway from the visit

But, the result is that the Apple Lisa is probably the oldest computer that the average user today could just jump right onto and intuitively figure out. Even the Xerox Star’s GUI, from 1981, works differently enough and is arranged differently enough that it would be somewhat incomprehensible, and that mostly copied over the ideas from the Alto that had been around since 1973, the Lisa is what really introduced the whole desktop metaphor that people are familiar with

Mr. Fusion
Mr. Fusion
2 hours ago

I LOVE reading issues of Byte at the Internet Archive, as well as InfoWorld (which seems to have been taken down). In the early 80s I was not a comp-sci kid nor a nascent programmer, but I did take computer applications classes in high school, and I was always into tech. The microprocessor revolution was such an exciting time, and I am endlessly fascinated in that part of our recent history. The future seemed wide open.

In terms of old car operation, I totally agree with Jason: Most of us have no idea what went into it. A few years ago I came across a manual for the 1915 Maxwell (later to be part of Chrysler). Here is a bit about the starting procedure:

Set the gear shift lever to Neutral

Set the spark lever (the shorter of two levers under the steering wheel) to top position

Set the throttle lever (longer lever) down about 3/4-inch on the quadrant

Place the starter plug in the switch on the heel board of the front seat

Pull the carburetor air control button part way out until the motor catches

In addition to basic operation, a 1915 car owner must know a bit about all of the systems that require maintenance. For example, there are about 30 points that require lubrication on a daily, weekly, or monthly basis. But battery maintenance is where you really get down to the nitty-gritty:

Take hydrometer readings just prior to adding water

A fully charged battery will indicate between 1.275 and 1.300 sp. gr. [specific gravity]

The battery should not be permitted to discharge lower than 1.150 sp. gr. as it causes the plates to sulphate

The specific gravity of each cell should be almost alike and not vary by more than 10 or 20 points

Source: I found this on the wonderful Old Car Brochures site, but the link is now dead, along with seemingly the entire United States section of the site.

(Guys, your site is driving me crazy, none of my post formatting seems to survive a page refresh.)

Last edited 1 hour ago by Mr. Fusion
Ricki
Ricki
2 hours ago

My father-in-law has a T that’s been in the family for aaaaaaages and hell if I can remember which pedal does what. It’s double fun because the (hand!) brake lever is also involved.

JDE
JDE
2 hours ago
Reply to  Ricki

Timing was also a learning thing, especially since it was a crank start car.

Tbird
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Tbird
3 hours ago

Dad bought us an Atari 520ST in 1987 or so, cutting edge at the time. That GUI directly led to Windows, etc… years later.

Freshman year of college I had an early Pentium on a TCP/IP fiberoptic network. At the time we may have been the fastest, most connected computer network in the world.

M SV
M SV
3 hours ago

Standards and best practices take time. It’s always interesting to see standards come in and how long they take. Thinking about GUI and standardization, apple had the education program in the 90s and early 00s. Schools primarily phased it out because the work world worked primarily on windows and the kids weren’t familiar. We seem to be repeating that to an extent with ChromeOS and IOS. Though with saas maybe it doesn’t matter as much as it once did.

Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
3 hours ago
Reply to  M SV

They absolutely are repeating that. I teach AutoCAD on Windows computers and I spend an inordinate amount of time teaching students how Windows works. They really struggle with saving/naming files.

Ricki
Ricki
2 hours ago
Reply to  Shop-Teacher

For what it’s worth I had more than one design/architecture professor that had some pretty extreme problems with the file cabinet metaphor. I remember one specifically that saved everything on the desktop. EVERYTHING.

Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
2 hours ago
Reply to  Ricki

Yeah, and we’re going back that way. We had a window … no pun intended … of time where most people learned and understood how to use a Windows machine. That time has passed.

M SV
M SV
2 hours ago
Reply to  Shop-Teacher

I was involved in tutoring kids on computers a few times. The last time was 7 or 8 years ago after a 6 or 7 year break it was amazing to me how the last time they expected everything to have touch screen couldn’t really work a mouse all hat well and didn’t care for track pads. Generally much tougher to teach they seemed to feel it wasn’t important and that technology would almost catch up to them. As far as navigating websites they seemed a lot better from the get go. They were definitely “iPad kids”. I can only imagine now it must be 10x worse.

Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
1 hour ago
Reply to  M SV

Oh yeah. The touch screen thing particularly. Stop getting your grubby fingerprints on my monitors you darn kids!

Which brings up another one, they all think the monitor IS the computer. They mostly have no idea what the giant black box down by their legs is for.

M SV
M SV
44 minutes ago
Reply to  Shop-Teacher

For sure, I used to explain form factors ,components, networking, some entry programming, and web development; to them, a real crash course. I felt if they had a real understanding from the ground up they could function better and have a good foundation for the future. It worked for the earlier kids a few of them went into computer and software engineering I think one is an AI engineer now. That last group I haven’t heard but I don’t expect that level. The was one that said something to the effect of she could use an iPad for everything and the “old computer” smell funny and give her the creeps. Anything that’s not a tablet perhaps a 2 in 1 they just didn’t want a part of.

Chewcudda
Chewcudda
3 hours ago

According to Top Gear, the car that “took Cadillac’s bright idea and showed it to the world” was the Austin Seven.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
Grey alien in a beige sedan
3 hours ago

Let’s think about networking standards.. you have TCP/IP (and it’s high-revving, but not-guaranteed to deliver cousin, UDP). It wasn’t until the mid 90’s that most computers even had a NIC (Network Interface Card)… that was eventually also supplemented by various generations of Wifi. Without all of these the computers couldn’t easily talk to each other.

Next up is the OS… back in the Torch-era of computing, most computers were simple 8-bit machines and each vendor seemed to run their own OS and nothing was ever compatible between systems… even ones that used very similar chipsets. So I couldn’t take my C=64 software to my friend’s house and try to load that on their Timex Sinclair. It wasn’t until the world coalesced around Microsoft, Apple and Linux (which includes Android) that we didn’t start to see ecosystems built around their OS’s.

Next, we come down to modern API’s…. which is the bread and butter that allows folks to develop compatible software by re-using existing well-tested code. For example, if you wanted to write a spreadsheet in the 80’s, you’d have to write your own handling routines for all storage devices, and printers were no different then either. Everything is now plug and play but it wasn’t always that way. Wanna write a 3D game? There’s plenty of frameworks available to you so you don’t have to write your own physics engines… you just call the available routines you need and go on your way.

Finally, we came up with a standard way to request data and display it… Those are the web standards. Including upon which this very site depends and was written to use those standards. That’s exactly what your web browser does.

Were the nascent car and mass-market computer industries really that different? No. Both industries had to suffer with the growing pains of introducing a completely new type of product on offer, and how to make them as user-friendly as possible.

Last edited 3 hours ago by Grey alien in a beige sedan
Matt Sexton
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Matt Sexton
4 hours ago

This is actually fascinating stuff, a fact I always wondered about myself.

Torch, I don’t know if you remember, but I emailed you years ago asking this question (it may have been when you were employed elsewhere):

How and when did the entire global bicycle & motorcycle industry universally decide the kickstand should be on the left? I have both from multiple decades and all of them are like this. In fact, I can’t say I’ve ever seen a bike leaning on a stand to the right.

In a world where we can’t even agree on electrical outlets, how did this happen? And how long ago?

GirchyGirchy
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GirchyGirchy
3 hours ago
Reply to  Matt Sexton

Thread direction, perhaps? Given the standard of the right-hand thread, it would have made more sense to place the bicycle’s drivetrain on the right, where a forward pedal motion would naturally tighten the cog threaded onto the rear hub. The location of the drivetrain then dictated the location of the kickstand on the opposite side.

A. Barth
A. Barth
3 hours ago
Reply to  Matt Sexton

Most people are right-side dominant (hand, arm, leg, foot).

For such folk it’s easier to leave the left leg stationary and do whatever needs to be done – e.g. throwing a leg over a motorcycle – with the right.

Bkp
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Bkp
3 hours ago
Reply to  A. Barth

Perhaps because one traditionally mounted a horse from the left side?

A. Barth
A. Barth
2 hours ago
Reply to  Bkp

And why might that have been traditional…?

I think it’s for the same reason. 🙂

Bkp
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Bkp
2 hours ago
Reply to  A. Barth

Exactly!

JDE
JDE
2 hours ago
Reply to  A. Barth

eh, I also wonder if side of the street dictated some of this. But Limey motorcycles still leaned left, even if the shifting and braking was done on the wrong sides.

Mike Harrell
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Mike Harrell
4 hours ago

…many of us can’t have someone be wrong, in any mass media, about cars.

On that note, the control marked above as “THROTTLE” is actually the starter button. The keyed switch turns on the ignition system but it does not activate the starter (actually a combination starter-generator). The actual throttle control is the floor button that’s much closer to the brake pedal, partially obscured by the “THROTTLE” arrow above.

MaximillianMeen
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MaximillianMeen
3 hours ago
Reply to  Mike Harrell

I thought the throttle looked to be in an awkward position. Makes much more sense that its the starter and nub poking up behind the arrow is the throttle.

ExAutoJourno
ExAutoJourno
4 hours ago

I still can’t manage all the swoopy/touchy things on modern computers and smartphones. Not sure I ever will, and don’t really care.

However, having put in some extensive behind-the-wheel experience with a Vintage (1924, IIRC) Bentley some two decades ago, pretty sure I can still deal with all its quirks for starting (two magneto switches — dual sparking plugs, therefore two magnetos, old chap — plus levers on steering wheel for spark advance and hand throttle, starter button) and driving (clutch, throttle in center and brake pedal for mechanical brakes on right, shift lever on right for non-synchro gearbox), and would love to have another shot at it.

Oddly enough, I had a fairly early computer — a low-memory laptop-ish piece bought at Sharper Image — and upgraded over the years to a fairly decent unit now. I learned what I had to learn but, alas, no more than that.

Vintage Bentleys are more fun. At least that one was.

Last edited 4 hours ago by ExAutoJourno
Eggsalad
Eggsalad
4 hours ago

We had peak standardization, but we’ve now moved away from it. Used to be, I could get into any rental car and instantly be able to drive it and operate all the strictly necessary controls with ease and confidence. Nowadays when I get into a rental car, I have to sit in the rental lot for 10-15 minutes just to learn how to operate the HVAC, entertainment system, shifter (sometimes) and etc.

I miss my GMT800. It was the last vehicle I owned wherein every control operated in a standard and obvious manner.

Matt Sexton
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Matt Sexton
3 hours ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

If you’re a GM guy, you could jump into any GM car built for probably three decades and work the wipers on the stalk by memory.

Tbird
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Tbird
2 hours ago
Reply to  Matt Sexton

It was the fiddly cruise control that drove me nuts…

GirchyGirchy
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GirchyGirchy
3 hours ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

Standard for GM…which was different than Ford, and Chrysler, and the Japanese. At least the HVAC controls made more sense than Ford’s of the era, which are idiotic.

I find that renting shitty cars is way to find simplicity!

Tbird
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Tbird
2 hours ago
Reply to  GirchyGirchy

Ford used to have 2 left stalks, one for signals, one for wipers. And an utterly intuitive headlight knob.

Tbird
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Tbird
3 hours ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

STD Japanese car. Headlights, turn signal on left stalk, wipers on right. Console shifter. First Corolla I ever drove (in college) I had NO IDEA where the headlights were.

American and German cars tended towards a dash knob/button for headlamps. Add in foot actuated dimmer switches and old school dash wiper knobs or GM switches…

Tbird
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Tbird
3 hours ago
Reply to  Tbird

I’m now 100% Toyota. All major controls are identical… I for one love the old cruise control dongle. Once you learn it there is never a need to look.

JDE
JDE
2 hours ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

We did, I still lament the Fuel Cap under the license plate in the center of the car. too often I fail to look for the arrow on a rental to rememember which side the fuel is filled from. though it should always be on the drivers side.

DriveSheSaid
DriveSheSaid
4 hours ago

Never mind this – did you save any of our ATARI AGE magazines? And whatever happened to those disks we had which had games, other stuff on them – I think they came with a magazine?

Dan1101
Dan1101
4 hours ago
Reply to  DriveSheSaid

Or the magazines that had Basic language games in them and you had to type pages of code by hand to play the game. One typo and it probably won’t work correctly, or at all.

Last edited 4 hours ago by Dan1101
TK-421
TK-421
3 hours ago
Reply to  Dan1101

I remember Compute! added a checksum on each line eventually. If you typed a line and it didn’t match, you messed something up.

Signed, old C64 user (VIC-20 before that)

Sid Bridge
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Sid Bridge
4 hours ago

Henry Ford: The gear shift pedal needs to be on the floor and the spark advance on the steering wheel, with a hand-brake and a foot brake!
William Murphy (Apparently there’s no Steve Cadillac): Gas/Brake/Clutch on the floor and we’re done, fellas.
Andre Citroen: Let go with a brake bladder and stick some controls in the ceiling. By the way, we should have a wheel lift itself.
Dodge Bros: Who the hell let him in here?

Mollusk
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Mollusk
4 hours ago
Reply to  Sid Bridge

Don’t forget the throttle lever on the other side of the T wheel…

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
2 hours ago
Reply to  Sid Bridge

Bravo. I actually get that yoke.

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