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This Is Your Reminder That North Carolina Used To Let Teenage Burnouts Drive Your Kids To School

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For a number of reasons, getting my kid on his bus to school has proven a surprising challenge this week. A lot of this is my fault; the kid stays up way too late, and then getting him out of bed in the morning proves to be a task on par with getting a recalcitrant bull deep in a K-hole to get out of a warm jacuzzi filled with thick, delicious pudding. But it’s not always our fault. Many times, the issue is that the school system simply doesn’t have enough bus drivers, so buses are always having to be delayed or substituted because there are just not enough people to drive them. Bus driver shortages have been an issue in North Carolina since I was a kid growing up here, but once, when I was a happy, sloppy child, they tried a bold solution to this problem: let teenagers who had barely started driving do the job.

I wrote about this around a decade ago for The Old Site, but I think it’s worth mentioning again, because the fundamental problem that brought about this baffling solution is still here, and it’s the sort of thing that, when I tell people about it, I get some really satisfying reactions of shock and dismay. The world is a very different place now than it was when I was riding school buses in the 1970s and 1980s, and it’s worth remembering that the standards of what is safe and acceptable for kids have changed pretty dramatically.

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I think there have been studies that show that the concept of loving your kids and not wanting them to be in grave danger wasn’t a thing until, oh, probably the 1990s or so. With that in mind, the idea that parents would be okay with a 16-year-old kid with maybe three months of driving experience driving 30 kids to school behind the wheel of a huge Ford B-series school bus starts to make a bit more sense.

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I’m not kidding: I had bus drivers who were literally 16 and had only just started driving. And most of these kids weren’t exactly the ones who got into the bus driving racket to pad collegiate portfolios or develop strong habits of responsibility. These were generally burnout kids who loved the idea of getting two whole periods out of class and making a bit of extra money to buy weed.

I’m saying this as someone who actually liked many of the teenagers who drove my buses. In elementary school, I thought they were pretty cool, and they sometimes brought boom boxes on the bus and played music, which was also pretty cool. Were they good, safe drivers? Hell no!

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I mean, as far as I can tell, I’m not dead, so they must have done some things right, but I also remember that mailboxes were knocked off posts with a surprising frequency by these drivers as they got used to piloting those massive yellow beasts around, and I also recall that if you got to school and saw a group of your friends holding brown, coarse, wet paper towels to their heads that almost always meant that a bus had flopped onto its side as it took a turn too fast or braked at the wrong time.

I don’t recall anyone ever being seriously hurt, but I remember these things rolling over at least a couple of times per year throughout my school-bus-riding tenure.

Oh, and the fact that the only authority on those buses was teenagers just a few years older than most of their passengers made the on-bus culture something that would make Lord of the Flies feel like reading the minutes of a genteel gardening club. I saw some crazy shit go down on buses, fights that incorporated the hair-oil-slicked seatbacks in novel ways, unwanted lunches flung from windows onto passing cars, sometimes even into convertibles, should you be so lucky, and just all manner of the usual childhood madness, just concentrated into a yellow metal box and piloted by a kid whose entire inner monologue consisted solely of Lynyrd Skynyrd lyrics.

It’s not really shocking – again, these were drivers aged 16-17, primarily. Back in the 1986-1987 school year, North Carolina had 5,000 bus drivers under the age of 18, out of a pool of 14,350. And it’s not like they had fantastic records; the Charlotte-Mecklenburg County school system had students for 39% of their drivers, but they accounted for 64% of the bus crashes and incidents, which really isn’t shocking because, again, these are kids who just learned how to drive.

The reason that NC did this – along with 11 other states that got an exemption in 1968 to allow drivers under 18 years old to take kids to school (Alabama, Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Virginia, and Wyoming) – was pretty obvious: money.

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Students were just a hell of a lot cheaper than adults when it came to driving buses, and the difference was pretty significant. As the video below notes, where most states’ average cost for transporting kids to school was $39 per student, NC’s cheap-ass student drivers brought my state’s cost down to just $15 per student! That’s less than half! Surely that’s worth some mailbox decapitations and the occasional flop of a bus onto someone’s lawn, right?

I mean, in a lot of ways, the student bus driver program in NC was an outstanding success; the vast majority of kids got to school alive and undamaged, and the state saved a hell of a lot of money, up until the program was finally shut down in 1988. Plus, as much as I like to characterize the student drivers as burnouts, the truth is they did their jobs and showed up, and there’s no way that didn’t teach some degree of responsibility. There was something cool and empowering about student bus drivers, and even as a parent of a student who rides a bus to school, I don’t think I’d necessarily be against a revival of the practice.

Of course, I also realize that I would be very much alone in that opinion. Modern sensibilities are so wildly different from how they were in the 1970s and 1980s that just the idea of proposing such a thing now would be enough to get you ostracized from any PTA. I remember the dirty looks I’d get dropping my kid off at some school event in my old, airbag-unencumbered Beetle; I can just imagine what proposing that our precious children be driven to school every day by incredibly inexperienced drivers in aging vehicles with no seat belts.

Somehow, though, I don’t remember parents complaining about the student bus drivers at all. I don’t think my parents ever mentioned it even once, and they were well aware of who drove my bus, because as I recall, they knew some of the teens who did it and had all kinds of opinions about them. My dad wouldn’t hire them to mow the lawn, but to drive his 9-year-old son to school across town? Fine, why not?

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Drivers with months of driving experience, no cell phones, no seat belts, minimal oversight – I’m sort of amazed that it was real. Eventually, by the 1990s, federal laws mandated that you’d need a CDL – commercial driver’s license – to drive a school bus, and those require a driver 18 years old at least. And it makes sense – a full-sized school bus is a far cry from the hand-me-down Ford Mavericks and Dodge K-Cars that most of these kids learned to drive on.

I suppose there’s some survivorship bias going on here, or perhaps some perverse sort of misplaced Gen X pride about the institutionalized and sometimes beneficial neglect that seems to have been the hallmark of parenting of that era, but I nevertheless feel some nostalgia for this admittedly hard-to-defend practice. Sometimes kids, even burnout kids, will step up to responsibility if you make that an option, and I think that’s a good thing.

Also, my bus driver in the sixth grade promised us all that he’d take the bus through a McDonald’s drive-through on the last day of school. It hasn’t happened yet, but I’m still hopeful one day I’ll hear the honk outside, and he’ll be there to make good on that promise. Until then, screw you, Keith.

Top graphic images:Vintage School Bus Fans FB group

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4moremazdas
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4moremazdas
25 minutes ago

We used an old decommissioned school bus at a summer camp I worked at as a teen. The guy who officially drove it was essentially a teenage burnout, but was like 23. We used the bus on the weekends to go into town without any other supervision, and there were many occasions he’d let us try our hand at driving the bus. It was a fun experience for us teens, and never resulted in any property damage or loss of life or limb.

The only time we ever got into any trouble was with the actual driver at the wheel. One of the guys was standing at the giant front window mooning other motorists as they passed, and the driver thought it would be hilarious if he stomped on the brake. It was pretty hilarious, but we had to blame the now bare-ass-cracked windshield on hitting a bird to throw off suspicion when the camp director saw it.

Eric Davis
Eric Davis
46 minutes ago

Back in the early 80s I had a bus driver who was approximately 111 years old but had eyes in the back of her head and cat-like reflexes. If she were still alive (and honestly I wouldn’t be surprised to find out she is) I would still let her have a bus route.

Rad Barchetta
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Rad Barchetta
55 minutes ago

Evidence that Springfield is in North Carolina?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fRaU84dIoIs

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
47 minutes ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

And is that who Jason named his son after?

DriveSheSaid
DriveSheSaid
56 minutes ago

As someone with a healthy/firsthand experience of knowing what the Bulwer Lytton Fiction Contest wants, “getting him out of bed in the morning proves to be a task on par with getting a recalcitrant bull deep in a K-hole to get out of a warm jacuzzi filled with thick, delicious pudding.” is a prime example.

I wish the contest was still running so I could enter it.

Last edited 56 minutes ago by DriveSheSaid
Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
1 hour ago

The 90s was definitely the transitional period for switching from not really valuing the lives of children to valuing the lives of children more than anything. I consider it an improvement? But I always assumed that once the expectation of society switched from “we expected a few of them to die so we had 10” to “who the fuck can afford to have more than 3 of these” that preservation of the not so cheaply replaced spawn became more of a “Job #1”.

Regardless, driving a school bus is a real job and if you want someone to do it, pay the damn person. I get pretty annoyed at the people who complain about not being able to recruit bus drivers, but then simultaneously refuse to pay the taxes that would be required to pay them.

MiniDave
MiniDave
1 hour ago

I think this is the biggest pile of crap I’ve read /\ to assume that parents didn’t care if their children died until the enlightened 90’s? Complete bullshit, and as one who lived thru the tumultous 50’s, 60’s, 70’s and 80’s I was there to see it. My kids were born in 69 and 70 and I can assure you I and every parent of that era cared deeply about our children, but those times were different. These parents lived thru WWII and Vietnam and had different expectations of what personal and governement sponsored responsibility meant, among other things.

I agree that people should be paid for the job they do, and the issue isn’t that the money isn’t there, it’s how our “enlightened political leaders” have chosen to spend it.

Church
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Church
1 hour ago
Reply to  MiniDave

Not the OP, but I don’t see it as parents not caring, but rather society doing a lot of things that sure made it look like society didn’t care that much.

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
46 minutes ago
Reply to  Church

This too.

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
52 minutes ago

Yeah I wasnt implying that in the 80s people were watching their children perish in accidents and reacting like its an episode of America’s Funniest Home Videos. Just that an attitude for safety hadn’t come along to reflect the high odds for longevity that was sort of a new phenomenon starting with the boomers.

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
59 minutes ago
Reply to  MiniDave

I think caring and valuing are sort of different in this context. I’m not implying that parents of past generations didnt care about their children (though like any family situation YMMV) or somehow didn’t care if they were alive or dead. But many decades to centuries ago, people definitely played the numbers game. Before medicine and technology came along to make it possible to aim for “zero untimely deaths”, if you wanted to ensure the family survived, you were probably going to want to have more than two kids. The 70s and 80s are sort of a weird lag time where the odds of survival were high, but the attitudes toward safety hadn’t quite caught up. Good or bad.

Stacheface
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Stacheface
44 minutes ago

That’s exactly it, I grew up through the 80s into the 90s, and how I was raised vs me raising my kids were worlds apart. We were rolling around the back of the station wagon and seatbelt use was rare. Or we’d be riding our bikes around town and our parents would expect us to be home eventually, and they might only have a vague idea the area we’d be if even that. In hindsight I realize our parents mostly left us to do whatever without really being involved or keeping a close eye on us.

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
17 minutes ago
Reply to  Stacheface

Shit in the early 80’s I used to go explore the crumbling old mercury mines from the days of the gold rush up in the hills behind our house. Our equipment? A propane camping lantern some D cell flashlights, and a bunch of laughably thin nylon rope my friends and I stole from the local golf course. Some of those mines were damn sketchy too. There were rumors of whole boxes of sweaty ancient dynamite just waiting to be found. I never found those but I did find plenty of sharp, rusty iron, heavy, loose rocks, slippery mud, badly rotten support timbers, pits to the depths of Hell and sometimes even skeletons of (I think) deer that long ago had wandered inside and died in the dark. At least I THINK they went in on their own but in retrospect maybe they were dragged in there by mountain lions.

A few of the mines were only accessible by deep airshafts. I never worked up the courage to shimmy down those but a few friends of mine did. And of course this was in earthquake country. Those mines are just a few miles from the epicenter of the Loma Prieta earthquake of 1989.

Did I mention the rattlesnakes? Or the bees? Or the poison oak?

Unfortunately today those mines have been bulldozed closed so today’s kids can’t have the same experiences unless they dig their way in. We would have.

Did my parents care? They didn’t ask what we were up to so I have to assume it was willful ignorance. Although I DID tell them sometimes we had been hunting rattlesnakes and they shrugged and said OK. I didn’t show them the ones we brought home.

Last edited 13 minutes ago by Cheap Bastard
AssMatt
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AssMatt
1 hour ago

Aside from tipping over–and wow, we used to all pile on the outside on turns, and never toppled once–aren’t school buses so well-designed that the kids will be okay in a collision? Isn’t that the whole reason yellow buses are so different than city and transit buses? Those teenage drivers couldn’t hurt their passengers if they tried, right?

Drew
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Drew
1 hour ago
Reply to  AssMatt

If that makes you feel better, please believe that.

AssMatt
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AssMatt
1 hour ago
Reply to  Drew

Right?! RIGHT?!

Icouldntfindaclevername
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Icouldntfindaclevername
1 hour ago

I remember my 3rd grade homeroom teacher was also my bus driver. I remember this because I was in love with her LOL

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
1 hour ago

This Is Your Reminder That North Carolina Used To Let Teenage Burnouts Drive Your Kids To School
And yet people freak out at AVs

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