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This Museum In Tampa Bay Is Auctioning Off A Set Of Exceedingly Excellent Cars, And You Should Buy One (Or Several)

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If you’re like most readers of The Autopian, one of the biggest problems you face every day is a painful overabundance of money. There are stacks of the stuff everywhere, and you just don’t know what to do with it all! The alerts you get on your phone announcing new, high-dollar deposits are so loud and nonstop that it’s like having an alarm going off constantly. And the checks! Don’t get me started on the checks! Huge, chaotic wads of checks coming in your mail slot every day, looking like bouquets of cubist white lilies dumped on your floor, waiting to be deposited. It’s nonstop! But what can you do about it?

Luckily, there’s an answer. You can relieve yourself of some of that pesky money by trading it for cars – cars that are up for auction right now from the collection of the Tampa Bay Automobile Museum! And holy crap, is there some good stuff in here. There are 18 cars up for auction, and this is one of those rare cases where pretty much any of the cars in this auction would be a fascinating car to have.

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I should mention that this auction, done in conjunction with our pals at Hagerty, does not mean that the Tampa Bay Automobile Museum is in any danger of closing – they’re doing just fine. According to the museum’s president, Oliver Cerf,

“This is a thoughtful, limited release of vehicles that are no longer central to the Tampa Bay Automobile Museum’s curatorial direction, allowing the museum to stay focused on the engineering history it exists to share.”

So, the good news is that the museum is fine, and it’s even better news if you can get one of these cars, which, as I mentioned, are all fantastic. The Tampa Bay Automobile Museum has a curatorial focus on innovative cars, ones that attempted to do things a bit differently, which is why we see cars from front-wheel-drive pioneers like Citroën or rear-engine streamliner proponents like Tatra, or even early hybrid gasoline-electric cars like the Owen Magnetic.

Here’s a full list of the cars up for auction, from oldest to newest:

  • 1916 Owen Magnetic O-36 Touring Chassis

  • 1929 Durant 6-66 Coupe

  • 1931 Hanomag 3/16 Coupe

  • 1935 Georges Irat FDW Roadster

  • 1936 Tatra T75 Convertible

  • 1937 Citroën 7CV Berline

  • 1939 BSA Scout Series 6 Roadster

  • 1943 Volkswagen Kübelwagen Type 82

  • 1950 Allard P1 3.6-litre Saloon

  • 1950 Tatra Tatraplan

  • 1951 Hotchkiss-Grégoire Sedan

  • 1954 Citroën 2CV

  • 1955 Salmson 2300S

  • 1957 Talbot-Lago America Chassis

  • 1968 Ford Zephyr Mk IV AWD Police Car Prototype

  • 1973 Citroën SM

  • 1998 Renault Sport Spider

See what I mean? What a great list! Let’s take a look at my, oh, five favorites here.

1950 Tatra Tatraplan

A Tatraplan! Oh, I love these Czech wonders so very much. The Tatraplan was a sort of modernized, postwar take on the Tatra rear-engined formula, and in some ways can be considered the rebirth of the 1936 Tatra 97 – the smaller of the rear-engined Tatras with a flat-four engine, and the car that Hitler prevented from being sold because of its resemblance to Porsche’s KdF-Wagen, the car that would become the Volkswagen Beetle.

The Tatraplan was a similarly-sized car to the old T97 – think a bit bigger than a Beetle, and with four doors – and also had a flat-four air-cooled engine. The bodywork is still streamlined, but with a more updated design vocabulary. It’s a fascinating car, a vision of what the future could have looked like, had history taken a different, and arguably more exciting, path.

This example seems really well maintained – not too perfect that it couldn’t be driven, but definitely show-car quality. In looking at the pictures of the car on the auction, I’m struck by a couple of things I think the Tatraplan doesn’t usually get much credit for: first, the luggage capacity. Like a Beetle, it has two cargo areas, one up front in the nose, the other behind the back seat. That back seat area is surprisingly roomy:

You can also see the funny rear window setup there, where you look through one set of glass panes and then again through another curvier set on the rear of the car to see behind you:

The engine room is between the two sets of windows. It’s weird.

Back to the luggage room, though: look how much space is in the front trunk:

Okay, sure, that spare tire is taking up most of that space, and it sure seems like there would have been a better way to mount that thing to take up less room, but it’s a surprisingly big compartment in there.

Also, the Tatraplan has one of the weirdest interior rear-view mirror setups that I’ve ever seen:

It’s mounted from the ceiling, but at the height of a dash-mounted mirror? Why? Is it adjustable on that long arm? I have so many questions. Bidding is currently at about $70,000 for this thing, so that should help clear out some of those pesky stacks of cash.

1953 Citroën 2CV

I know I’m a little 2CV-obsessed lately, but I think that’s understandable. This one is a beautiful example of an old “ripple-bonnet” 2CV, and it’s currently only $7 more than the $5,000 I paid for my 2CV. I doubt it’ll stay that cheap, but that did catch my attention. This one is kind of an ideal example of what I picture when I think of an early 2CV – that particular color gray, the plaid lawn-chair-style seats, the delightful utilitarianism.

This one even still has the canvas trunk lid, which wasn’t replaced by an actual steel lid until 1957. It does have the 425cc engine, good for an Earth-rending 14 horsepower, a nice jump up from the original 9 hp 375 cc flat-twin.

Why is this kind of austerity so damn appealing? What’s the matter with me?

1943 VW Kübelwagen Type 82

Also austere and utilitarian, but in a very different way, is this Kübelwagen, the soldier version of the Beetle. While I’m not crazy about the original owners of this car or how it was used, I’ve always been fascinated by Kübels because of my love for the Beetle. Considering that the Beetle was designed to be an economical family car, the fact that it could be adapted into such an effective military vehicle is pretty amazing.

This one looks really authentic and has all the proper details; this isn’t some body stuck on a postwar VW pan with a postwar engine, everything here looks to be from the right period, like that strange air cleaner setup you see above there that was unique to Kübelwagens.

Oh, and since I was going on about unexpectedly roomy cargo areas, have you ever seen how much room is behind the rear seat of a Kübel?

That’s a pretty good-sized trunk back there! I’m not sure I’ve ever really gotten a good look under that lid before!

Because people seem to like WWII stuff, this one is currently at $19,250, so maybe less of a bargain.

1950 Allard P1 3.6‑litre Saloon

Okay, enough utilitarian stuff – let’s look at something with a deeply strange, ethereal beauty, like this 1950 Allard. I usually equate Allard with small track-focused sports cars, so seeing the traditional inverted-T Allard grille on something larger always kind of throws me, but in a good way.

The Ford Flathead V8 gives good power (for the era) and is not so exotic that upkeep would be a nightmare. This feels like something you could actually drive. And driving it should be a pretty great experience, with a well-tuned suspension and light body made of aluminum and wood, two materials that at least tend not to rust.

One of these won the Monte Carlo Rally in 1952! The pewter gray/blue two-tone is also an interesting choice, even if I thought it was half primered when looking at it in the thumbnail.

It’s currently still under $10,000, which seems like a great deal for such a rare and novel car like this!

1968 Ford Zephyr Mk IV AWD Police Car Prototype

For my last pick to feature, I was tempted to go for this wonderful Citroën SM, but then I really looked at this amazing thing, and noted that it’s currently only at $4,400, which feels like a steal. What makes it interesting isn’t that it’s a Ford Zephyr police car – though that definitely doesn’t hurt – but that it’s an AWD prototype police car, with engineering by Harry Ferguson Research.

You may recognize the Ferguson name from the term Ferguson Formula, which was what the FF stood for in the Jensen Interceptor FF, one of the first true all-wheel drive GT cars.

This Zephyr was one of 22 cars fitted with the advanced FF AWD system, along with Dunlop-developed anti-lock brakes, one of the first cars to employ both of those advanced bits of engineering in actual driving situations. These also got the larger 3-liter Ford Essex V6 engine, the same one I had in my old Reliant Scimitar, so I can attest how good that motor is.

This car is such an amazing technological milestone; the technology being tested here is now commonplace on many modern cars, and in the case of anti-lock brakes, almost everything. Plus, it’s all wrapped up in a really cool-looking police car package, complete with chromed bumper-bells! How cool is that?

I’ll be really curious to see how these cars do at auction; if any of you Autopians pick one of these up, please let us know!

Top graphic image: Tampa Bay Automobile Museum

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EricTheViking
EricTheViking
1 month ago

I would choose Ford Zephyr. If it weren’t for the fucking US regulations, I would also choose Citroën SM…

Torque
Torque
1 month ago
Reply to  EricTheViking

It is a +50 year old car that you’d be buying from a museum in Flordia

I would expect the museum took care of any potential import duties +50 years ago

Oops you said regulations. Now Im curious what regulations to which, you may have been referring? Since it was a prototype if you wanted to register it for the road that may prove challenging depending on your state registration requirements. Though I would hope it could be not too hard given it’s age.

Last edited 1 month ago by Torque
EricTheViking
EricTheViking
1 month ago
Reply to  Torque

Read my comment very carefully again, Torque.

I was referring to the US headlamps and side running lamps and retroreflective markers on Citroën SM. They totally ruined the car’s futuristic look.

EXL500
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EXL500
1 month ago

I live near the museum and have been many times. I’ll miss some of these cars (especially the Tatraplan), and would love the SM (but I’m neither S nor M). Anyone in the area for vacation or who lives here should visit.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago

That is the one local museum I haven’t managed to get to – need to up my museum game.

I’d LOVE that 2CV, but my stacks of money are dwindling as they turn into a new garage with attached living quarters next door. Sigh. I actually would 10000% have bought a really nice Peugeot 504D just like the one I used to have that sold fairly locally on BaT a couple weeks ago if I wasn’t house-skint. Went for like $7K. Sigh.

Rapgomi
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Rapgomi
1 month ago

Dang!! I wish I had seen this earlier. There are some lovely and interesting machines being sold. And I’ve already missed out on some I would have bid on.

William Domer
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William Domer
1 month ago

oh I want the SM

Roofless
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Roofless
1 month ago
Reply to  William Domer

The SM is one of my “weird car crushes” – some day when the stars align, I’d really love to get my hands on one.

William Domer
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William Domer
1 month ago
Reply to  Roofless

In my weird fantasy garage you would find a DS, a traction Avant in white, and an SM. The apartment in the garage would house a Citroen mechanic from France (or Quebec?) and the remaining space would be occupied by racks of parts and a barrel of the green stuff.

Flyingstitch
Flyingstitch
1 month ago

The 7CV…I clicked through the whole gallery. Fascinating. That little instrument pod on the steering column is like someone imagined a future where dashboards would be covered in screens, and they just simulated the effect with analog gauges behind a single glass pane.

On a more disturbing note, what is that blob in the trunk? A skinned and preserved sheep carcass?

Beneficient Bruise
Beneficient Bruise
1 month ago

I sold a ’73 VW Thing (Type 181) that was completely retrofitted to North Afrika Corp livery (down to the fenders/seats and shovel mount) to United Artists in 2006 for $12K. Legend has it that it was blown up in the scene in Tom Cruise’s Valkyrie movie where his character is severely injured. Not a bad return, since I bought it for $3500 from a WWII buff in Arizona a year earlier. Still have a lifted/chopped ’73 with 18″ cut out of the middle, but it’s rusting away under the Tarp Of Good Intentions. Wonder if that would be some good Bring A Trailer fodder?

Jay Vette
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Jay Vette
1 month ago

That Owen Magnetic chassis is a steal at its current bid (as of this comment) at $2800. This car is literally one of the first hybrids ever made, incredibly rare, and right now costs less than a Prius with 100k miles. If I had the space to keep it, I’d snap it up and build a custom body for it

Jakob K's Garage
Jakob K's Garage
1 month ago

I would love to be the owner own the world’s longest throttle return spring, on that VW Type 82!

But the brass fuel lines are really cool! Nice touch.
A lot more drivers of classic cars should have systems like that, instead of all the cheap China rubber crap, and we would have less classic car fires and lower insurance premiums!

Last edited 1 month ago by Jakob K's Garage
Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
1 month ago

The Zephyr is very interesting because it’s essentially a blue collar Jensen FF with the same AWD and anti-lock brakes but a production body and a V6. Of course I’m always game for an SM but the only old 2CV I want is a twin engine Sahara

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago

Geez that 1957 Talbot-Lago America Chassis is a give away price, if I had somewhere to put it, like a big enough living room. Or get a body made. It’s selling for between a half a percent and one percent of what it would cost with a body. I bet for a $100,000 you could get a body made and sell it for two or three times that.

That Hotchkiss-Grégoire is really something, it beat Tesla to a one piece cast aluminum chassis by over 70 years.

DNF
DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

Raw chassis have made huge sales when someone really wants one.

The thing about customs and rare cars is almost no one wants that exact car.
Part Two is that you only need one buyer.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago
Reply to  DNF

You need two buyers to run the price up. 🙂

DNF
DNF
1 month ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

It helps, if you have two that will put up with a bidding war.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago
Reply to  DNF

It definitely takes at least two. A single buyer is just going to get it at whatever the reserve is at best – assuming they want it badly enough to get to the reserve. No reserve? Well, that is when auction bargains happen.

Boulevard_Yachtsman
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Boulevard_Yachtsman
1 month ago

Neat coincidence! I’m currently in Sebring so maybe I can go check a few of these out in person tomorrow. A group of us were planning to head down to Naples and check out the Revs Institute, but apparently that’s a bigger deal than I realized and it appears that tickets are all sold out. The Tampa Bay museum is our backup plan, something to serve as a warm-up before the upcoming 12-hour race here in Sebring. If money wasn’t an issue I’d be driving back to Iowa in that ’73 Citroen SM.

I did already buy several cars… of the die-cast variety. My uncle has a toy business and managed to find a bunch of cool stuff for me. There are some amazing Franklin mint models in this haul including a ’57 Studebaker Golden Hawk and a ’57 Chrysler 300 with an actual 1/18 scale cloth-top. He also managed to find a 1/43rd scale 1939 Graham Sharknose Combination Coupe that’s one of the coolest things I’ve seen in a long time. Great stuff, but between that and a bunch of go-kart racing in Orlando I’m ballooning the travel budget pretty quickly.

Speaking of, if anyone noticed an out-of-place looking guy wearing a bright yellow Autopian T-shirt in a vintage record store somewhere in Orlando a couple of days ago, that was me killing time while my daughter searched for a specific Etta James album (and a few others) she wanted to add to her collection.

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago

Revs Institute is absolutely worth it if you can get in. The BMW Club does a club visit there every year, with a catered lunch.

Those diecasts sound really cool! I haven’t added to my collection in eons due to lack of space, sadly.

EXL500
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EXL500
1 month ago

You’ll enjoy it, but REVS is astounding.

Piston Slap Yo Mama
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Piston Slap Yo Mama
1 month ago

I’ve been meaning to meet Olivier, the maestro who directs this lovely symphony of classic cars. This museum is right in our figurative backyard of Tampa. Florida catches a lot of (deserved) flack, but Tampa is pretty cool despite that.

Were we not escaping to the Netherlands via the DAFT, I’d seriously consider the 2CV as a bookend for our Pao, and might anyway once we’re there.

TaylorDane > TaylorSwift
TaylorDane > TaylorSwift
1 month ago

Indeed a great museum in Pinellas Park (not gonna let Tampa get the credit!). Visited a couple years ago when they hosted my likely future son in law’s USF Formula SAE car unveiling. As we were walking around the museum, Olivier just came up and started talking about the cars we perused, giving us an unsolicited private mini tour.
If ever in the area, totally check it out (along with Tampa’s Motor Enclave).

GENERIC_NAME
GENERIC_NAME
1 month ago

I’ve always lusted after the idea of a Citroen SM. But the terrifyingly complex hydraulic everything system combined with the terrifying unreliability of the Maserati V6 engine makes me thing that it should probably stay as an idea.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago
Reply to  GENERIC_NAME

The Maserati V6 in the SM and the Merck is normally asperated and doesn’t have the reputation of the Biturbo’s engine. A friend owned a SM in LA in the 1980s and it wasn’t particularly problematic. Without specialist support and service, I’d be reluctant to own one now but the engine would not be the big concern.
Maserati engines had a reputation for being overbuilt and reliable until DeTomaso took over.

Wild Turkey
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Wild Turkey
1 month ago

The engine room is between the two sets of windows. It’s weird.”

Same with both NSX’s, didn’t realize it was that rare.

Torque
Torque
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Turkey

Wet 2x rear windows…
And of course the Tarta T77, T87
(The T97 mentioned in this blog post)
As well as the Citroen XM

Last edited 1 month ago by Torque
Shooting Brake
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Shooting Brake
1 month ago

Yeah I want that Ford or the Allard…gotta deposit some of these overflowing checks first though…

Dylan
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Dylan
1 month ago

What is the BCD on the Tatra? I have never seen lug nuts that far apart before!

Racecar_Steve
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Racecar_Steve
1 month ago
Reply to  Dylan

I’m not sure about the size on the Tatra, but they remind me of the “wide 5” pattern that you see on some older Volkswagens, or the even larger “wide 5” pattern you see on old prewar ford trucks and some more contemporary circle track cars

AmberTurnSignalsAreBetter
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AmberTurnSignalsAreBetter
1 month ago

Have you ever seen a more optimistic car than the Salmson? That grille would smile through the apocalypse.

Torque
Torque
1 month ago

And it sold for under $20k that seems well bought

AmberTurnSignalsAreBetter
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AmberTurnSignalsAreBetter
1 month ago
Reply to  Torque

A lot of this collection sold at what I would call reasonable prices – if I didn’t live on the opposite coast I definitely would have bid on the 7CV. I agree, the Salmson seems like a bargain too.

Torque
Torque
1 month ago

Totally agree. I was surprised to see so many of the vehicles offered showing sold for $21k and below!

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
1 month ago

I really thought I might have a shot at some of these until I realized the top shot was not a collection of Matchbox cars.

Hoonicus
Hoonicus
1 month ago

Is there a better way to promote father-son bonding than two 2CV racing?

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
1 month ago

I’ll never not swoon over a Renault Sport Spider….

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago

There seem to be a lot of them for sale in Japan
https://www.beforward.jp/stocklist/make=264/model=2556

Torque
Torque
1 month ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

Buying a European (preferably LHD) classic from Japan strikes me as a good idea. 1) a.car like this would have been a special fun car for someone well off & therefore likely we’ll taken care of 2) Japanese car registration requirements also would indicate it was taken care of 3) several reputable importers from whom you could work with to get it to the US

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
1 month ago

*Ferguson

Abdominal Snoman
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Abdominal Snoman
1 month ago

Screw your suggestions I really want that Renault spider. Can we set up an autopian go-fund-me or timeshare program?

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
1 month ago

My parents have a place in Longboat Key with a covered parking spot we could store this at without much effort….

DialMforMiata
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DialMforMiata
1 month ago

That Allard looks like a blue Crosley rear-ended the crap out of a grey Morgan. Really, really hideous.

Toecutter
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Toecutter
1 month ago

The Hotchkiss Gregoire sedan has the Cd value of 0.20 according to a recent search engine result, 0.355 for the cabriolet. I recall reading the sedan was tested at 0.26 Cd though, back in 2005, which was the same as the Gen 2 Toyota Prius. What a design.

They also have a Citroen SM and Renault Sport Spyder!

AmberTurnSignalsAreBetter
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AmberTurnSignalsAreBetter
1 month ago
Reply to  Toecutter

Just imagine if they’d had retractable flush-mount door handles and cameras instead of mirrors!

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