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This Is Probably The GRMN Corolla Before Toyota Wants You To See It

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Automakers love showing future products to dealers, usually through private, invite-only events. It gets salespeople excited, giving them a taste of what’s to come. These events are almost always behind-closed-doors, no-camera affairs, which means the news circuit doesn’t get a peek at what goes on. It seems someone didn’t get the memo at this year’s Toyota dealer expo in Las Vegas.

An Instagram user going by the name mysupraadventures published a fairly comprehensive set of photos over two posts that look to show the upcoming GRMN Corolla fully undisguised (Toyota declined to comment on the images when reached by The Autopian). We get a clear look at the front, the back, and even the interior. No surprises here: This thing looks great.

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Let’s start at the front. The car shown here has a few obvious changes versus the standard GR Corolla, including the glossy carbon fiber hood, the fender louvers, and the bronze wheels. The grille itself seems to be unchanged—not like it needed to be any larger, since it’s already a gigantic opening. Importantly, those fender cut-outs match the fenders shown on a camouflaged test mule shown by Toyota in April, giving a bit more credibility to this car’s authenticity.

Out back, the only big difference we can see is the bigger, glossy carbon fiber rear wing at the top of the hatch panel. Again, the shape matches up with the wing shown on Toyota’s official prototype photos. Also, the matte grey color is new for the GR Corolla lineup.

Inside is where things get really interesting. The seats are the star of the show; the normal chairs have been swapped out for a pair of absolutely awesome-looking, two-tone adjustable bucket-style seats with the GR logo stitched into the headrest. There’s lots of bolstering going on here, presumably because this’ll be a track-oriented machine.

The rear seat bench has been deleted altogether, replaced with a crossbar mounted behind the front seatbacks. Those with a strong knowledge of GR Corolla theory will know this is the same setup used on the Morizo edition, the obvious purpose being weight savings (the Morizo was 84 pounds lighter than the standard car). In the Morizo you couldn’t even put the rear windows down; it’ll likely be the same story with the GRMN.

Speaking of GRMN, how do we know it’ll even use that name? Toyota’s never officially confirmed the title. Well, thanks to these pictures, we don’t have to wonder. A close-up photo of the (thankfully manual) shifter and center console shows a “GRMN” badge glued directly to the plastic, just below the drive mode rocker switch. We can see red stitching on the console, the gearshift boot, and the steering wheel. There’s also a 12 o’clock stripe on the wheel, too.

So now everyone knows what the GRMN Corolla will look like, assuming that’s what this is. But it’s not clear what sorts of upgrades it’s hiding under the hood. The normal GR uses a turbocharged three-cylinder making 300 horsepower and 295 pound-feet of torque; it’ll likely make a bit more for this application. I’m more curious about the weight savings. Going by the lack of rear seats, the specific fenders, and all that carbon, I bet it’ll be even lighter than the Morizo. Plus, who knows what other sorts of suspension and drivetrain changes Toyota is planning?

Toyota is once again proving it’s the best carmaker in the game right now.

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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
6 months ago

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMINNESOTA?
It’s a…Corolla. I still can’t believe there’s a rally…Corolla. Who cares?
Not me

Secret Chimp
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Secret Chimp
6 months ago

Why can’t you believe it?

Maybe you were just not aware that there were at least 2 other Corolla rally cars, the AE86 Corolla GT Coupe and the Corolla WRC? Or maybe you are surprised that there is a rally Toyota at all and were unaware of the Celica GT-Four (165, 185, 205, and twin cam turbo TA64), or the WRC Yaris, or the GR Yaris Rally, or the Group B 222D?

Or maybe you are just going for a hot take?

RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
6 months ago
Reply to  Secret Chimp

To me, the Celica is ok…but making an econobox a “rally” car? To me, that’s absurd. It’s still a…Corolla…it’s still a…Yaris

Secret Chimp
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Secret Chimp
6 months ago

Literally all modern and modern-ish WRC rally cars (in classes that require a production car as a base) were/are based on econoboxes, aren’t they though?

Just like with 60’s drag racing v8 muscle cars, rally cars are pretty much the lightest chassis a manufacturer has on offer but with the largest engine allowable by the rules stuffed inside.

RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
6 months ago
Reply to  Secret Chimp

Yeah, I get what you’re trying to say and those are good points…this is more just about me having fun making fun of those since they have been known as boring econoboxes. It’s a…Corolla/Yaris…a “rally” Corolla/Yaris? Ha ha ha ha ha…it’s just funny to me. Just a difference of opinion. I’d rather have the legendary classic rally cars like Audi Quattro, Lancia, etc.

Cars? I've owned a few
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Cars? I've owned a few
6 months ago

This site’s seemingly lazy reliance on Instagram is getting beyond annoying. Can’t you all do screen captures or is there some legal reason you can’t?

Otherwise, please stop.

Turbeaux
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Turbeaux
6 months ago

The worst is when David posts a story with a dozen instagram clips as if he doesn’t have the rights to host them on this site.

Cars? I've owned a few
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Cars? I've owned a few
6 months ago
Reply to  Turbeaux

I have griped about this and the way the comments part is soooo messed up.

To no avail.

But the content here is compelling enough that I keep coming back.

But, Matt, or maybe Brian, now, if you’re reading, wake the F up! Fix it!

Littlebag
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Littlebag
6 months ago

I want them to sell it wrapped exactly like this as an option.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
6 months ago
Reply to  Littlebag

I’d like that wrap on a Corolla Hybrid Wagon pls.

RayJay
RayJay
6 months ago

Interior trim shown in the shifter photo looks clean and upscale. No more glitzy, scratch prone piano black plastic!

Aprtur
Aprtur
6 months ago
Reply to  RayJay

If I can get my hands on it for my car, I’ll happily rip the piano black out. I’ve been ordering any Morizo trim parts that aren’t VIN locked to do that already, and just need a few more to fully delete it.

Cryptoenologist
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Cryptoenologist
6 months ago

Toyota would have so much more performance credibility if they actually honored their warranty.

Too many reports of them finding bs tangential reasons to deny warranty claims. Unrelated aftermarket parts, or “excessive speed” – also immaterial but especially galling when they’ve offered track memberships as a purchase perk.

That’s without even getting into the general markup gouging of their dealers on the performance models.

Aprtur
Aprtur
6 months ago

There were only two issues out of thousands of cars, and both of those people were messing with modifying the car and/or had accidents damaging the car prior to the problem. I would agree with you that the t-case issue should be resolved, but the warranty thing is a crock and blown way out of proportion. Plenty of happy owners out there.

Cryptoenologist
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Cryptoenologist
6 months ago
Reply to  Aprtur

There are two well known cases with the GR Corolla, there are a lot more cases out there with the FR-S/GR86.

Whether it’s overblown or not, the general feeling is that Toyota will try to find whatever reasons it can to deny warranty claims, and if it is a vehicle that is available in a similar form from another manufacturer(such as the Supra or 86), it’s safer to go with BMW or Subaru. Plus Toyota dealerships seem to have a nasty habit of markups.

Aprtur
Aprtur
6 months ago

Yes, I’m referring to the subject of this article, the GR Corolla, and the two cases which everyone has proven are BS – one of the owners admitted it and has even bought another one. In addition to that, what are you going to warranty in a fire? That is what insurance is for, and you would have to argue to your insurance that Toyota is liable – with the evidence stacked against both of those owners, there was nothing to do except say “sorry, but nothing we can do”.

The reason the “general feeling” is like that, is because people took clickbait and created a witch-hunt out of it. Nothing new for the internet.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
6 months ago

GRMN – always gets translated to “Garmin” in my head.

Borton
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Borton
6 months ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

My brain makes it “gremlin”.

JJT554
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JJT554
6 months ago
Reply to  Borton

+1 for gremlin

Fasterlivingmagazine
Fasterlivingmagazine
6 months ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Or “Grumman”

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
6 months ago

+1 for Grumman

Beatle
Beatle
6 months ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

German

Fix It Again Tony
Fix It Again Tony
6 months ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

GRMN = Garmin’s stock symbol.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
6 months ago

Oh wow I thought the Corolla Grumman would be more van-like. Perhaps the production model won’t have rear windows? 😛

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
6 months ago

Can I request providing actual pictures in articles, and links to Instagram? I get the desire to drive traffic to your socials, but some of us are behind work firewalls and cannot view the posts, so all this article is for me is a bunch of text about blank boxes 🙁

5VZ-F'Ever and Ever, Amen
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5VZ-F'Ever and Ever, Amen
6 months ago
Reply to  Max Headbolts

Second this! Bunch of blank boxes. Screenshots of the insta posts would be fine.

Samagon
Samagon
6 months ago
Reply to  Max Headbolts

social media platforms have rules about how news sites are supposed to use their data.

in this instance, trust Google results not me, you can search “copyright law for news sites using photos from social media” and get exactly what I’ll share below:

“News organizations cannot automatically use photos from social media without permission; they must rely on the copyright holder’s explicit permission or the fair use doctrine.”

so it seems that social media sites do indeed allow direct linking of photos through embedding without concern, otherwise, the autopian would have to reach out to mysupraadventures and get their permission to use the photos in this site. so not really that simple to just copy/pasta.

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
6 months ago
Reply to  Samagon

Thanks, I hate it.

This article is a nothing sandwich because of it.

I’ll also add, that I didn’t even realize that it was NOT an Autopian Instagram post until now. Reading comprehension failure on my part.

Last edited 6 months ago by Max Headbolts
Samagon
Samagon
6 months ago
Reply to  Max Headbolts

I agree wholeheartedly, my opinion, as a layperson is that fair use needs to be expanded, maybe tested, not sure if this site can afford that test.

Keon R
Keon R
6 months ago

Thing looks cool as hell. I bet it rips!

Arch Duke Maxyenko
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Arch Duke Maxyenko
6 months ago

I would assume they’ve updated the rear diff cooling?

Aprtur
Aprtur
6 months ago

*transfer case. The rear diff was never an issue, that was false. The issue is that the programming for the system goes off of inferred values for the t-case temp based on other measured factors (basically an inferred duty cycle). They would need to amplify cooling and then reprogram it. That being said, it’s a non issue on the street, where most of these live.

Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
6 months ago

I kinda dig the camo.

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
6 months ago

I’m sure it’ll cost $65,000 before dealers get a hold of it and six figures once they do. I assume they’ll be running full credit and background checks before they even let you within six feet of it. No thanks. The GRolla is a car that you buy in the basest of base specs and drive like you stole until it gives up the ghost.

In the low 40s new it’s a great value and you can already find used ones in the low 30s/maybe high 20s if you’re patient. If all you care about is value I’ll also bet the automatic ones are going to be worth pennies on the dollar in a few years because the transmission kind of sucks…although that almost certainly doesn’t apply to anyone here.

This ain’t a collector car, even though Toyota wants it to be. It’s a driver’s car. If you’re into it go buy the most barebones one you can find and drive it as god intended.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
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Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
6 months ago

Yep, as cool as this is, price is going to be everything when it comes to its success and the track record for dealerships is poor when it come to hot hatches.

LastStandard
LastStandard
6 months ago

I just did a quicky autotrader search for cars under $60k. Within 50 miles there’s a 2018 ZL1 1LE for $58k, and a 2018 C7 grand sport for $53k. Those both seem overpriced but they’d run circles around the GR.

There’s also a 2020 Mustang GT with a Roush stage 3 package for $48k.. I’m not a Mustang fan but that is mighty tempting.

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
6 months ago
Reply to  LastStandard

This is exactly why the GRC is a car you buy in base form. You can also get a new Integra Type S for a little over 50 and it’s an exponentially nicer car. If it came down to a high spec GRC or ITS I’d go ITS every single time. You can also get a Golf R at that point and really the only thing the GRC has over it is the manual transmission. For some people that’s everything, to be fair. But for me? I’d take the DSG Golf R every time…especially with a 5 cylinder waiting in the wings

Fasterlivingmagazine
Fasterlivingmagazine
6 months ago

Plus you can do everything you want to it without ruining a “special edition.”

TK-421
TK-421
6 months ago

Lots of discussion on the GR forum and a bit on FB. Mostly whether it was real or not (it is), and about the seats-fenders-hood-spoiler-wheels-paint.

The boy racer in me likes the fender, keep it white to match my car. The hood not matching the roof was a point of contention (two diff types of CF). The wheels, meh, look like my old BBS wheels I had on the WRX. I do like the seats.

V10omous
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V10omous
6 months ago

Those with a strong knowledge of GR Corolla theory

For those of us who don’t, an explainer on what a “GRMN” is or what the name means might have been helpful. I don’t remember seeing anything on the site about a rumored hotter GR Corolla but if there was something a link would have been nice.

Captain Zoll
Captain Zoll
6 months ago
Reply to  V10omous

GRMN stands for “Gazoo Racing: Masters of the Nurburgring” and sounds like the title of an obscure video game from the early ’00s. Perhaps it’s like Lord of the Rings but they all drive Super Touring Cars?

Aprtur
Aprtur
6 months ago
Reply to  Captain Zoll

Nope. Gazoo Racing tuned by Meister of Nurburgring. It’s a nod to ace factory driver Hiromu Naruse, who passed away while testing the LFA on the Nur. Toyota even hid a little note about it in this press release ages ago:

https://global.toyota/en/detail/242491

Morizo was his protege, and got into factory racing and learned driver technique from Naruse, so his passing had a deep impact on him – I’m not surprised he honored Naruse by naming the “elite” GR trim after him.

Last edited 6 months ago by Aprtur
Grey alien in a beige sedan
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Grey alien in a beige sedan
6 months ago

I bet this thing buzzes like the angriest of bees.

Fredzy
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Fredzy
6 months ago

I owned a GR Corolla for a year (it was too small/impractical as my daily so traded to something bigger) and by far the thing I miss most about it was the growl from that engine. It sounded so much bigger and meatier than it was, and there is no fake noise generator of any kind in that car.

Dylan
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Dylan
6 months ago

The Chris King hub of cars?

Mr. Stabby
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Mr. Stabby
6 months ago
Reply to  Dylan

angry bees!

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