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Two Decades Ago You Could Buy A Cadillac With Two Engines, But Hardly Anyone Did

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In the early 20th century, Cadillac was known for its expensive and exclusive V16 models. As technology developed and engines became more refined, the luxury brand abandoned such sizeable engines, and eight cylinders would forevermore be seen as “enough.” And yet, at the turn of the millennium, it was once again possible to buy a Cadillac with sixteen cylinders, albeit at your neighborhood dealership.

In the world of automotive engineering, the convention is to build cars with one engine. If you want more power, you make the engine better or get a different one. This keeps complexity and weight down and is the generally-accepted norm. And yet, there’s something inherently tantalizing about a dual-engine setup. Beyond its mechanical charms, there’s a simpler numerical thrill. Double the engines means double the horsepower!

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It was the lure of the exotic that spawned the TwinStar Eldorado. It was obscure, complicated, and entirely impractical, and it had more cylinders and more power than most anything else on the road. A conventional American luxury car was turned into a stealthy road rocket that only the knowing would spot as something special.

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The twelfth-generation Cadillac Eldorado was suitably powerful for the time, but one shop realized it had the potential to become so much more. Credit: Cadillac

Double Trouble

American automakers had all kinds of wild ideas in the 2000s, from the Chrysler ME Four-Twelve to the Cadillac Sixteen. However, the executives at the Big Three were always too scared—or too reasonable—to consider building them. Ultimately, when it came to the weird and the outrageous, it was up to more daring companies to take the lead.

Indeed, it was Mosler that would come to build the first sixteen-cylinder Cadillac since World War II. What’s even more amazing is that it apparently came about almost by accident.

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Mosler Automotive was first founded in 1985 as Consulier Industries, later taking on the name of its founder Warren Mosler in 1993. The company focused on building small runs of high-performance sports cars, like the Consulier GTP and the Mosler MT900. These cars made a name for themselves on tracks around the world, often appearing in top-flite endurance races across the US and Europe.

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THIS … is a Consulier GTP (top, via Doug DeMuro) and the Mosler MT900 as filmed by MotorTrend Channel.

Green Hawk Drive recently featured a history of Mosler and the TwinStar.

However, Mosler didn’t limit itself to outright competition machines. Its founder enjoyed experimenting with various oddball builds, which saw a twelfth-generation Cadillac Eldorado land in the company’s shop in the 1990s. Warren Mosler believed that the front-mounted Northstar V8 drivetrain might be easily swapped into the rear of the vehicle to create a mid-engined sports car. The original plan was a simple front-to-back swap, with a single engine.

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A chance meeting would change all that. Speaking to Street Muscle in 2016, former Mosler engineer Jo Barras explained that one of Mosler’s friends had visited the shop, and misunderstood the build. “Warren [Mosler] had some golf buddies in the shop while the Eldo was in process, and the guy saw it and said ‘Wow, cool, a twin engine car’ or something and Warren kind of decided to have his engineers make it happen,” explained Barras.

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The Mosler TwinStar Eldorado. At a glance, it looks only a little strange; eventually, the far-flung rear axle and intakes (ahead of the rear wheels, below the beltline) catch the eye. Credit: Mosler

Swapping a whole V8 engine and subframe into the back of an Eldorado doesn’t sound easy, but Borras noted it wasn’t as difficult as all that. “The subframe GM used was, dimensionally, the right size to fit in the trunk, [and] the track was a bit narrower, so we had to make some fender flares,” Borras told Street Muscle.  “The biggest issue there was getting the ducts that fed the rear radiators to both look passable and be functional.”

The car came to be known as the TwinStar, named for its dual Northstar V8 engines. Notably, though, the twin engines weren’t matched front to back, at least not in the first example built. The front engine was a 275-horsepower Northstar as found in the base model Eldorado, while the rear engine was an uprated 300-hp Northstar as found in the higher-end ETC model. This gave the car 9.1-liters of displacement and a combined total output of 575 horsepower and 595 pound-feet of torque.

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The front-mounted Northstar V8, as Cadillac put it there from the factory. Credit: Corvette Experience

Each engine was paired with its own standard four-speed automatic, effectively giving the car a very unusual all-wheel-drive setup. Gear selection was synchronized across both transmissions, since you’d always want both in drive, reverse, or park at the same time. The Northstar V8s of the time used mechanical throttles, which made it relatively simple to hook up the accelerator pedal to both engines.

Inside, the car was largely a standard Eldorado, with air conditioning, a CD stacker, and leather seating for five. “The rich elegance of the Cadillac interior is preserved in the TwinStar,” noted Mosler’s website in 1999. “The only visible change you will notice is that a second instrument cluster and ignition control have been integrated into the dash panel.”

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For those wondering, this is the interior of the Cadillac Twinstar
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Mosler neatly integrated a second instrument cluster into the dash so it was possible to keep an eye on both engines.

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Other examples of the TwinStar had different instrument clusters and aftermarket gauges, but worked them into the overall dash design in the same way. Credit: Corvette Experience

Car and Driver was able to drive the Mosler TwinStar Eldorado, publishing its review in July 2000. It noted the joys of firing up the second engine with a button on the dash, and of watching the twin instrument panels. “Watching the two tach needles swing on different schedules is a fascinating business, but having two identical-spec engines would probably avoid the need for this redundant gimmick,” wrote Barry Winfield. The car was noted for the unconventional driving experience created by the two unique engines:

 The rear engine has a higher redline and uses lower gear ratios, so the engines shift at different times as the car accelerates. At first, this seems weird, but it feels normal after a while, particularly since it smooths the usual interruption in thrust that occurs even in cars with automatic transmissions. With the TwinStar, while one engine shifts, the other continues to pull hard. The disparity in power fore and aft is faintly detectable and is sensed as a harder push from the rear, although it’s possible that impression is the result of the louder rear-engine exhaust.

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The rear-mounted Northstar V8. Credit: Corvette Experience
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Servicing was likely a hassle. Credit: Corvette Experience

The review noted some quirks, with Mosler’s engineers suggesting the ECU was occasionally cutting performance. This was put down to the front engine’s ECU not liking the engine being pushed up to the rev limiter by the thrust of the rear engine. Still, Car and Driver was able to coax the lengthy machine into a zero-to-60 mph sprint in just 5.0 seconds flat. The quarter mile was passed in 13.4 seconds at 108 mph. The TwinStar dominated a stock Eldorado ETC, which could only achieve 6.8 seconds and 15.2 seconds respectively. In fact, it put performance close to a contemporary BMW M5, which could do the same sprint in 4.8 seconds onto a quarter mile in 13.2.

Dual engines offered big power, but they came with a serious weight penalty. The relatively long TwinStar Eldorado weighed in at 4,780 pounds, a figure which made its acceleration all the more impressive. Car and Driver noted it “actually handles pretty well in the corners,” while a racing driver hired by the magazine stated it was “amazingly well-balanced.” It pulled a respectable 0.83 g on a skidpad test—solid, if somewhat lower than proper sports cars of the era. Fuel economy was as bad as you might think, with the magazine reporting a somewhat laughable 10 mpg.

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Mosler had to do some custom fabrication to fit the engine and subframe into the rear. Credit: Doug’s Cars via YouTube screenshot

The TwinStar was impressive enough on its own, but Mosler had bigger plans. It indicated to Car & Driver it would offer TwinStar conversions for approximately $30,000. You had to supply your own Eldorado, which retailed around $40,000 at the time, but Mosler would supply the extra engine and do all the necessary work to build your twin-engined weapon. All in all, you’d be up for $70,000, which was about the price of a contemporary 2000 BMW M5, which we’re using here as a handy comparison. For your money, you were getting two less doors and no rear trunk, but you were getting an additional 175 horsepower compared to the German offering.

Sales

Mosler created print advertisements to try and sell the TwinStar to prospective customers. Notably, the primary advert reported the vehicle as having 600 horsepower, suggesting Mosler intended to fit production examples with two of the 300-horsepower V8s from the ETC.

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Mosler’s print advertisement for the TwinStar. Credit: Mosler

The advertisement has performance figures from Grassroots Motorsports magazine that eclipsed those recorded by Car & Driver, including a 4.6-second zero-to-60 mph time and a 12.7-second quarter mile. Top speed was estimated at 200 mph. It’s unclear when the advert was released, but pricing was cheaper than reported by Car & Driver, with the conversion listed as costing just $21,950 including all parts and labor. Mosler would also offer to source a used Eldorado if you didn’t have one of your own already.

Five examples of the TwinStar were eventually built and sold. According to RM Sotheby’s, one was sold to Clarence Clemons of Bruce Springsteen’s E Street Band, while also quoting rumors that another was sold to comedian Jay Leno. The three remaining examples were reportedly all sold to the same customer, who desired the vehicle for its theoretical ability to retreat under gunfire. As recounted to Street Muscle by Jo Barras:

I was on the phone, and I was telling the customer all about how it handled and how it was integrated and how nice it was to drive compared to something like a Viper or blah blah, and he cut me off.  He said “Look, that’s great.  If someone walks up to the front of my car and shoots out the radiator, can I still drive away on the rear engine?”

I kind of blinked, and Warren Mosler happened to be there next to me… and I asked him.  He said, ‘I don’t see why not.’ So I told the guy, “I don’t see why not.”

He said  “I’ll take three.”

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This example was listed for sale by Corvette Experience in 2015. Credit: Corvette Experience
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Credit: Corvette Experience
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Note the large vents on the trunk to remove heat from the rear engine. Credit: Corvette Experience

With only five examples ever built, TwinStars rarely come up for sale. The last car to publicly trade hands was the example formerly owned by Clarence Clemons, and was sold at auction for $45,000 in March 2015. It was later listed for sale in late 2015 by Florida dealer Corvette Experience, also appearing on Bring a Trailer. An initial eBay auction only hit a high bid of $17,103, which failed to meet reserve. At the time, the dealer’s website indicated it would accept $39,900 for the obscure machine. It’s unclear what became of the car after that.

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In 2021, YouTube channel Doug’s Cars was able to drive a surviving example. The video is well worth the watch to see how the dual-engine coupe actually does out on the road.

By and large, the TwinStar wasn’t able to single-handedly advance the cause for the cause of dual-engined vehicles. It had the benefit of great horsepower, but suffered the drawbacks of weight and practicality. The sheer mass of two large V8 engines would always limit its performance, and as a luxury cruiser, the TwinStar would be less desirable for the sheer fact that it has no rear luggage compartment. Beyond that, there’s something to be said for the headaches of servicing such a vehicle. The TwinStar had a total of 16 sparkplugs and four head gaskets, so those major service intervals would be an absolute headache to deal with.

Dual-engine cars really don’t make a lot of sense compared to more conventional single-engined designs. That doesn’t mean they’re not cool, just that they’re never going to earn a place in the mainstream automotive market. The Mosler TwinStar Eldorado stands as an excellent demonstration of how good a dual-engined coupe could be, and for that reason, it’s worth remembering.

Top graphic images: Corvette Experience; GM

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James
James
1 day ago

Mosler TwinStars were featured on an episode of Modern Marvel’s back in the day when the History Channel was good.

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
1 day ago

That’s probably the largest modern twin engine car, since most post 1950 examples start with a small car like the 2CV Sahara , the Mini Moke and Car And Driver’s own twin engined Honda CRX project. There’s also a twin engined Lemons racer out there using a combination of an MR2 and a Corolla FX-16

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
1 day ago
Reply to  Slow Joe Crow

Well and that four engine CanAm car.

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
1 day ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

A four engine Can Am? Please elaborate, the only four engine cars,I know of were dragsters and salt flats cars.

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
1 day ago
Reply to  Slow Joe Crow

From the most exciting race set in history with hardly any rules ( the only rule seemed to be “don’t do what Jim Hall is doing”) I give you the Mac’s IT Special.

It’s no Quad Al or even showboat, more like a four engine shifter cart as opposed to a Chevy big block shifter cart like the original AVS shadow.

It showed up once and didn’t qualify, but the Mac’s IT Special had a Rotax 2-stroke 750cc engine at each wheel reportedly sounded amazing.

https://graham64.wordpress.com/2016/05/01/four-engined-can-am-racer/

I so wish there were an engineering driven series today. Too many rules.

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
1 day ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

That is,definitely outside the, box.
The Chaparral 2J sucker car was sort of twin engined. There was the usual Chevy V8 to drive the wheels and a two stroke to run the fans

Grey alien in a beige sedan
Grey alien in a beige sedan
1 day ago

Wow, two GM powerplants in one single car. Gonna be a harsh reminder of GM using CPA’s as engineers once the warranty ran dry.

Boulevard_Yachtsman
Boulevard_Yachtsman
1 day ago

I remember this, quite possibly from that exact linked car-and-driver article, as it sparked some serious déjà-vu. Loved the idea, but hated the way it spoiled the car’s overall looks.

For more Northstar fun, check out Boyd Coddington’s 1996 “RoadStar” build with the then fairly-new Caddy engine placed in the trunk. I remember seeing several copycats of that build at car shows in the early 2000’s.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
1 day ago

First prize is a car with a Northstar engine, and second prize is a car with two Northstar engines.

Jack Beckman
Jack Beckman
1 day ago

Seinfeld’s TV dad would be in heaven – ‘It’s got the Northstar system – DOUBLED!” Yeah, that’s what I want – twin hand grenades waiting to go off.

CTSVmkeLS6
CTSVmkeLS6
1 day ago

Ouch, my eyes

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
1 day ago

Once more with feeling:
“Just because you can doesn’t mean you should”

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
1 day ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should

Jrubinsteintowler
Jrubinsteintowler
1 day ago

Kind of curious to see how well a solely mid-engined version would have panned out, especially if the mods had gone beyond a simple layout swap.

Here’s a fun exercise: What would be the best transverse FWD car to convert to a mid-engine sportscar?

FormerTXJeepGuy
FormerTXJeepGuy
1 day ago

Honda Del Sol

Hangover Grenade
Hangover Grenade
1 day ago

Whatever the Fiero was based off of. Chevrolet Citation.

Hoser68
Hoser68
1 day ago

Citation front end in back, Chevette front end in the front. Shocking that it wasn’t a refined package until they changed out the suspension.

Joe L
Joe L
1 day ago

Acura Integra Type-R

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
1 day ago

I think one of those Renault R4 turbos would be fine if you want to drop one off.

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
1 day ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

Oh, wait, that’s longitudinal , Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 , that should do it.

Cgeorgemo70
Cgeorgemo70
1 day ago

The Ford Festiva based Shogun was built in the early 90’s I read about it at the time and it seemed glorious.

Rich Pistacchio
Rich Pistacchio
1 day ago

albeit at your neighborhood dealership

Missing a “not.”

Oberkanone
Oberkanone
1 day ago

I’m thinking Chrysler Pacifica. Hellcat in the front and Hellcat in the rear. Over 1,400 horsepower.

RoRoTheGreat
RoRoTheGreat
1 day ago
Reply to  Oberkanone

Here is a single Hellcat in the front and RWD. Instead of shoving in the V8 into the engine bay they actually cut out the bottom of the Pacifica and rolled in the stripped unibody of the Charger and then bolted/welded them together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96zlGcoX2TQ

Mike B
Mike B
1 day ago

I’ve always thought the later versions of these Eldos were great looking cars. This one, not so much, though I do respect the madness of this.

I’m surprised Stevie Van Zandt didn’t pick one up, I think he drove a stock Eldo on the Sopranos.

DietersMagnificentStache
DietersMagnificentStache
1 day ago
Reply to  Mike B

Why buy one when he could just call up the Big Man and borrow his?

Matt Sexton
Matt Sexton
1 day ago

“If someone walks up to the front of my car and shoots out the radiator, can I still drive away on the rear engine?”
I kind of blinked, and Warren Mosler happened to be there next to me… and I asked him. He said, ‘I don’t see why not.’ “

Can we discuss this in seriousness? Because I feel like this would not be possible unless you could put the front engine into neutral, independently of the rear. But from the details we’ve been given here, both shift cables were linked to the shift mechanism together.

It's Pronounced Porch-ah
It's Pronounced Porch-ah
1 day ago
Reply to  Matt Sexton

I am no engineer but if I put my car into accessory mode, or otherwise shift the transmission to drive or reverse without starting the engine, the car is able to roll. I assume there would be considerable drag on the functional engine because it would be rotating the other engine and turning the wheels, but I still think it would work until the front engine seized.

FormerTXJeepGuy
FormerTXJeepGuy
1 day ago
Reply to  Matt Sexton

Now I want to see a heist movie using these as the getaway cars.

Angry Bob
Angry Bob
1 day ago
Reply to  Matt Sexton

If you could shut down one engine (or it just dies) the transmission will free-wheel unless you put it in park. While it will eventually damage the transmission, it will certainly get you out of there.

Brock Landers
Brock Landers
1 day ago

Missed opportunity for the title: “Party in the front,” “After-Party in the Back!”

Also, what’s that thing that Jeff Goldblum’s character said in Jurassic Park??? It applies here!

FormerTXJeepGuy
FormerTXJeepGuy
1 day ago
Reply to  Brock Landers

life, uh, finds a way?

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
1 day ago

well, there it is

DialMforMiata
DialMforMiata
1 day ago

This is the first time I’ve ever seen a Cadillac and thought it needed more rear overhang.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 day ago

While this twin-engined Eldorado is cool, a Deville would be cooler. With whitewalls and a vinyl landau top.

SageWestyTulsa
SageWestyTulsa
1 day ago

“Yeah, I’m looking for a faster Eldorado ETC, but make it even worse looking and significantly heavier. While you’re at it, halve the fuel mileage, and double the number of failed headgaskets.”

Warren Mosler: “Say no more.”

Jack Beckman
Jack Beckman
1 day ago
Reply to  SageWestyTulsa

“Hey, we’ll eliminate your trunk space too!”

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1 day ago

It’s got a Northstar and a Southstar, for double the headgasket issues. Great idea though, have a backup Northstar to get you home when one fails.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 day ago

^^COTD^^

Mercedes Streeter
Mercedes Streeter
1 day ago

You got it! 😀

Brandon Forbes
Brandon Forbes
1 day ago

I wonder what the back seat area looked like. Looks like that rear engine is quite far back there, so it might still have a full backseat, or better yet, yank the seats and make it a storage area and you won’t feel the lack of a trunk anymore.

JDE
JDE
1 day ago

Good Lord, what worse than 1 Northstar oil leak…2

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 day ago
Reply to  JDE

Why have just one Northstar Polaris that dumps one engine exhaust right next to your passenger when you can have two?

Mercedes Streeter
Mercedes Streeter
1 day ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Incorrect, the second Polaris engine dumps into the driver’s face so both of you can enjoy hot exhaust action. 🙂

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 day ago

Double your pleasure, double your fun.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 day ago

The march of technology of crazy dual-engine, 16 cylinders, and massive displacement reaching a 1/4mi performance of 13.4
That’s about the same as a Honda Civic CTR (13.5s as per C&D) from an engine the fraction the size.

Brandon Forbes
Brandon Forbes
1 day ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Yeah, but this was more about bragging than performance where it only matched the M5, so it’s not like this was the pinnacle of what the 90s could produce.

Eric Gonzalez
Eric Gonzalez
1 day ago

Sounds like an idea I would have while severely drunk

The Bishop's Brother
The Bishop's Brother
1 day ago
AutoPartsGuyBuffalo
AutoPartsGuyBuffalo
1 day ago

My thought as well.
Who else has made a twin engine beast?

Ash78
Ash78
1 day ago

If you ever find yourself in Riviera Beach, FL, a fast getaway car is highly recommended.

In case my outdated memory was failing me, I Streetviewed it just to be sure.

V10omous
V10omous
1 day ago

The three remaining examples were reportedly all sold to the same customer, who desired the vehicle for its theoretical ability to retreat under gunfire

This gentleman seems like he might be in a line of work that supplies product to the person who thought up of this idea in the first place.

Michael Han
Michael Han
1 day ago
Reply to  V10omous

The circle of life

Mr E
Mr E
1 day ago
Reply to  V10omous

I guess Rezvani didn’t exist back then.

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