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What Are You Willing To Overlook? 1983 Toyota Cressida vs 1990 Toyota Camry

Sbsd 10 21 2025
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In the used car market, at nearly every price range, one name often stands above the rest: Toyota. Its cars are well-built, reliable, and low enough maintenance to survive some neglect. Get a used Toyota, and you can still go wrong, but your odds are a lot better. But even used Toyotas sometimes have some marks in the negative column. Is the brand’s reputation good enough to ignore those negatives?

Yesterday we looked at a mildly-busted Honda, and an Infiniti for which the state of California demanded its pound of flesh. I thought this one would be a little more evenly matched, honestly, but the Infiniti absolutely trounced the litle CRX. Enough of you from outside California voted for it, stating correctly that the back fees don’t apply to you. There was some debate about whether or not the car could legally leave the state under its own power, but that’s not my concern. That’s between you and the California Highway Patrol.

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As for me, I’m taking the CRX. I already have a big, comfy, V8-powered sedan; I don’t need another. A CRX in need of some love, even the fuel-miser HF version, is much more interesting to me. In fact, if I ever were to get another project car – which, let’s be honest, I probably will eventually – a rust-free CRX in need of mechanical repair would be just about perfect for me.

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“Get a Toyota” is the typical response when someone asks what would be a good used car. And it’s good advice, but because of their reputation, used Toyotas often command a price premium – commonly referred to as the “Toyota Tax.” The two cars we’re looking at today wouldn’t be nearly as expensive if they were, say, Fords. But they both have features that a lot of you might find undesirable: automatic transmissions, and automatic seat belts. And both suffer from aftermarket wheels that don’t fit particularly well, as well as some other minor modifications and maladies. Can you overlook these flaws for the sake of the Toyota badge? Let’s find out.

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1983 Toyota Cressida Wagon – $3,000

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Engine/drivetrain: 2.8-liter DOHC inline 6, four-speed automatic, RWD

Location: Portsmouth, VA

Odometer reading: 298,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

Named after a character in a Shakespeare play that nobody reads anymore, the Toyota Cressida was basically Lexus before Lexus. It was Toyota’s flagship model, a comfortable sedan or wagon with an inline six, rear-wheel-drive, and all the latest bells and whistles. Among those technological advancements is a safety feature that is now thankfully extinct: motorized safety belts. The Cressida was the first car to have them; it is, you might say, “patient zero” for that particular disease that ruined so many otherwise nice cars up until the mid-1990s.

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You could get a Cressida with a five-speed manual behind its 5M-GE inline six, but good luck finding one; I think I’ve seen maybe one or two over the years, and never a wagon. Most of them have a four-speed automatic like this one does. It’s rapidly closing in on 300,000 miles, but the seller says it still runs just fine. These cars, much like the Lexus sedans that replaced them, have a reputation for racking up some serious miles, so don’t let the odometer reading scare you. It’s a lot more faithful than its namesake. (I’ve read the Cliff’s Notes at least.)

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The US-market Cressida had a cushier and more luxurious interior than the Mark II on which it was based. Toyota wanted to compete with the likes of Buick, and soft seats and power doodads were one way to do that. This one is in great shape inside, except that the steering column trim is missing. It’s worth asking why. More curious, these days, is the ashtray full of change; no toll booths exist anymore, and I haven’t seen a coin-operated parking meter in years either, so why does the seller need an ashtray full of quarters at the ready?

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There has to be a catch, and here it is: the seller says this car has “a few” rust spots, like this one behind the rear wheel. How many is a few, and how bad are they? It’s hard to tell from the pictures. Most of the paint looks fine, though. The car has been lowered and sits on too-wide aftermarket wheels, but finding a cheap RWD Japanese car that isn’t so afflicted these days is difficult. I still want to know what’s wrong with stock ride height and tires with some actual sidewalls on them, but maybe that’s just me.

1990 Toyota Camry DX – $5,000

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Engine/drivetrain: 2.0-liter DOHC inline 4, four-speed automatic, FWD

Location: Lexington Park, MD

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Odometer reading: 86,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

Here it is, the car everyone hopes to find when looking for a used vehicle: a clean, straight, low-mileage Toyota Camry. This is the second generation, when the Camry really came into its own and became the “nice” car that it would be for decades to come. This is the first Japanese car that my dad seriously considered buying, after renting one for a family trip, and I can’t express how high praise that is.

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Camry engines, by and large, have never really been anything special – just very, very good. This one is powered by a 2.0-liter twin-cam engine that makes a hundred-and-something horsepower and drives the front wheels through a four-speed automatic. The exact stats aren’t important; all anyone needs to know is that it’s enough power, and it just keeps on going. This one is probably due for a timing belt replacement, if it hasn’t been done already, but otherwise, at only 86,000 miles, it’s just getting broken-in.

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This generation of Camry also features those hateful automatic seat belts, but otherwise its interior is a nice place to be. It’s in beautiful condition, but you’d expect that, with the low mileage. The seller has replaced the stereo with something more modern and more powerful, including a pair of 12 inch subwoofers that eat into the available trunk space by quite a lot. (Kids; what are you gonna do?)

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It’s clean and rust-free outside, but it has a set of aftermarket wheels that just don’t belong on it. Or on anything, in my opinion. That skinny-tires-on-wide-wheels thing looks stupid, and it can’t be safe. Those wheels and tires, along with the stereo, make me think that this car was owned by an elderly family member who passed it on to a younger member. At least they didn’t do anything permanent to it.

These are both probably really reliable cars, with quite a bit of life left in them, but either one is going to need some tinkering to put them back how they should be, at least in my opinion. But maybe you can look past the silly modifications and the rust. If so, which one do you think is the better deal?

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It's Pronounced Porch-ah
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It's Pronounced Porch-ah
1 month ago

Despite the rust I would rather have the Cressida. I know too many people who put giant subs and stupid wheels on their cars, and while their modifications aren’t permanent, they were also the kind of people who said things like, “What do you mean you need to change the oil? Last time I checked it was still full.” RWD, I6, Wagon baby, it’s cheaper and maybe he will throw in the quarters!

PresterJohn
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PresterJohn
1 month ago

Gotta be the Cressida (which is somehow losing right now). When are you ever going to see another one?

Probably don’t need more than a couple but the primary place I use quarters now is Aldi…

Steve Wilson
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Steve Wilson
1 month ago

My love of wagons is overruled by the miles and rust on the Shitbox Brown Cressida and the fresher state of the Shitty Shade of Grey Camry, even though it’s overpriced.

BoboDogo
BoboDogo
1 month ago

The automatic shoulder belts were no big deal at all. Hop in, door closes, belt moves up and one fastens the lap belt. THE HORROR!

Isis
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Isis
1 month ago
Reply to  BoboDogo

I for real don’t get why people complain so loud about those things. I’ve had multiple cars with them and they’ve never been a problem.

TriangleRAD
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TriangleRAD
1 month ago
Reply to  Isis

They weren’t good to live with on a daily basis. We called them “decapitator belts” because they would come across your neck if you tried to exit the car too quickly after opening the door.

Mentec
Mentec
1 month ago

Having had both, I’ll go Cressida all day, every day. My first car was an 83 Cressida sedan with the very rare manual and factory limited slip diff. It had 234,000 miles when I traded it for a shitty 88 Maxima SE with a 3rd of the mileage and it was a terrible car. I also had a 1991 ES250. Good car, but not as durable as the Cressida. The 5M-GE is a gem of an engine with the manual. The 2VZ-FE was a thing with the automatic. Smooth and revvy, but gutless.

James McHenry
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James McHenry
1 month ago

I’ve heard enough problems with old Camrys on reruns of Car Talk that even if it’s clean, I have to wonder how long the teeth on the flexplate have. And if it’ll develop “Camry Syndrome”. Also I’m a sucker for minilite/Watanabe style 8-spokes. Cressida.

TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
1 month ago

It’s a brown station wagon! It’s a diesel and a stick shift away from internet perfection! I recommend an OM606/648 with the box of your choice.

FloridaNative
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FloridaNative
1 month ago

My second car was an 89 Camry (manual). That thing was unkillable until a Caprice ran me off the highway at 60+ mph.

Wally_World_JB
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Wally_World_JB
1 month ago

OMG a WAGON Cressida? Straight six for me baby!

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
1 month ago

Nope to rust, Nope to bad wheels, and nope to automatic seatbelts..
Can I have yesterday’s Cima again?

“no toll booths exist anymore”

The writer has clearly never been to Central Virginia.

Last edited 1 month ago by Urban Runabout
Matthew ONeill
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Matthew ONeill
1 month ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

New Orleans still has some coin operated parking meters

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
1 month ago
Reply to  Mark Tucker

We do, but there are still coin bins and full-service lanes for the poor and unbanked.

Last edited 1 month ago by Urban Runabout
Shooting Brake
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Shooting Brake
1 month ago

Normally I always go for the cleaner car but I can’t resist a rwd straight 6 wagon…

Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
1 month ago

I expected to vote for the wagon, but the peeled off steering column trip screams go away to me.

I’ll chuck a set of steelies on the Camry and yank that stupid sub box out. Good to go.

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
1 month ago

You call that rust? Cressida wagon all the way. Had no idea about the inline 6. Digging everything about it except the wheels.

D-dub
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D-dub
1 month ago

I can’t overlook the price of either of them.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
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Grey alien in a beige sedan
1 month ago

Gotta be the Cressida. RWD wagon with an inline 6? And legendary Toyota reliability?

Sign me up now!

GENERIC_NAME
GENERIC_NAME
1 month ago

Cressida for me; if the wheels are genuine RS Watanabes in good condition you have a decent deal there.

Phonebem
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Phonebem
1 month ago
Reply to  GENERIC_NAME

That was my thinking on the wheels as well. TBH, I’m a bit disappointed in how few people have recognized them.

Last edited 1 month ago by Phonebem
Cyko9
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Cyko9
1 month ago

I came in thinking “Cressida versus a Camry?!” Read the article, thought about it, looked at the rust, and still voted for the Cressida. I’ve never seen a wagon in person. I’m assuming it’s not too bad underneath. The Camry is the safe bet, but I’d rather go with the Cressida.

TK-421
TK-421
1 month ago

Between the two, I’ll take the wagon. The wheels don’t look that bad to me. I have a cupholder full of change in both daily drivers, comes in handy for drivethru orders if nothing else. The rust gives me pause, but for $3K (prob negotiated a little in cash) why not.

My only concern is the steering column looking like it starts with a flathead screwdriver.

StillNotATony
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StillNotATony
1 month ago

FIVE GRAND FOR THAT CAMRY?!?!

Seller is taking crazy pills. Or should be taking something.

Cressida for me.

Last edited 1 month ago by StillNotATony
Brandon Forbes
Brandon Forbes
1 month ago

The right answer is very obviously and solidly Camry today. I voted Cressida.

The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
1 month ago

Whyyyy would I pay more money for something that’s FWD and much less rare. Also the incessant hand-wringing on this site about any car that’s been even slightly modified is tiresome.

StillPlaysWithCars
StillPlaysWithCars
1 month ago

I agree considering the vast majority own cars that we’ve modified…

James McHenry
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James McHenry
1 month ago

Yes…and we know how bad a job we’ve done! Who knows what kinda shortcuts someone ELSE made!

StillPlaysWithCars
StillPlaysWithCars
1 month ago
Reply to  James McHenry

Fair point. After all, nothing is more permanent than a temporary fix.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
1 month ago

Yeah, and they’re the most basic, most easily reversible mods. Why would anyone rather have the ugly POS steel wheels they came with (yeah, steel wheels are ugly and they suck—they’re heavy, they rust, and they flex)? Either way, you’re probably buying a new wheel set, but at least the aftermarket wheels might have some resale value to make a few bucks back.

DubblewhopperInDubblejeopardy
DubblewhopperInDubblejeopardy
1 month ago

Cressida, but swap the auto for a manual. And get rid of the engine and add a 1JZ.

Aracan
Aracan
1 month ago

I want to like the Cressida, because it’s such a gorgeous old-school Japanese wagon. But I am not going near a vehicle that has rusted-through body parts before I buy it. And the Camry reminds me of the Carina II my wife had when we first met. Camry for me, and to hell with those wheels.

Last edited 1 month ago by Aracan
Sid Bridge
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Sid Bridge
1 month ago

Oh crap. That Cressida is pretty close to where I live. And I’m looking for something to haul gear for my band and use as a beater to let my kids learn to drive on. Crap. I may have to take a closer look.

Brandon Forbes
Brandon Forbes
1 month ago
Reply to  Sid Bridge

Don’t tell me that! I never pay attention to the location. That is very tempting, if you need a second pair of eyes and go to look at it let me know! I’d love to check it out

Sid Bridge
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Sid Bridge
1 month ago
Reply to  Brandon Forbes

We should totally go look at it.

Brandon Forbes
Brandon Forbes
1 month ago
Reply to  Sid Bridge

I warn you, I am a very bad influence, there s a very high probability of you driving away from the encounter with a fancy new (to you) Cressida haha.

Bomber
Bomber
1 month ago

Man that camry brings back memory. My ex had a 91 when we first started dating. Easy choice by comparison on this one. The long roof is nice, but miles, rust and auto…

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