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What Car Comes Closest To Perfect?

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I suppose we should firm up what a perfect car is before attempting to determine what cars come closest to achieving perfection, but I’ll leave the firmification process entirely to you. Does the perfect car balance comfort, power, and handling in equal and high measure? Or does it embody perfection in design and proportion, with other considerations scoring lower? Or is the perfect car the one best-built with precision tolerances and clever engineering to perform impeccably and reliably?

Probably all of the above, with different amounts of each ingredient, and I look forward to reading your criteria and most-perfect selections in the comments. As for me, my choice is a car that I suspect few would choose as the “perfect car” (spoiler alert: it’s the one in the topshot), but hear me out.

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My Dad was a big Beetle guy, and regularly extolled what he liked about them: they were cheap to purchase and operate, mechanically simple, and thus easy to fix and maintain. “There’s no cooling system to worry about, and you can set the points by the side of the road with a matchbook cover,” he would say. I don’t recall Dad ever actually performing the matchbook trick in the driveway or garage let alone by the side of the road, but I trust that it could be done. My Dad saw the Beetle was the platonic ideal of a car as basic transportation, and that vision stuck with me as well.

Certainly, many – most, even – cars could handily outperform the Beetle even when new examples were rolling off VW assembly lines, and today, a Beetle of any vintage is positively bronze-age compared to the technological miracles we take for granted as we go along our merry ways. But in it’s own way, to me, the Beetle is still very much a perfect car.

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Rapgomi
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Rapgomi
1 month ago

Now that I own one, I have to give it to the 2CV. Its everything good about the Beetle, but with even fewer parts, a much much much better ride, and a warm design flare that the Germans just can’t emulate.

Did I mention how much better the ride is?

Gen3 Volt
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Gen3 Volt
1 month ago
Reply to  Rapgomi

I should add to this, it’s my understanding that in Yurp the 2CV‘s the one that most everyone who can remember, get all weepy remembering.

The People’s Car described above OTOH has a history that prevents it from having quite the same feels. Supposedly. Perhaps a Yurpean here can confirm or deny

Shooting Brake
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Shooting Brake
1 month ago

Miata obviously. But a shooting brake version for more cargo capacity.

Gene
Gene
1 month ago
Reply to  Shooting Brake

Finally!

Elhigh
Elhigh
1 month ago

I’m torn between Volvo 240 and AMC Eagle. Practicality dictates that I go with the 240; with a limited slip differential aboard you almost might never miss AWD.

RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
1 month ago
Reply to  Elhigh

AMC Eagles are awesome

Elhigh
Elhigh
1 month ago

I have an irrational love for orphan brands, biggish four cylinders and AWD. The Eagle ticks many boxes.

Last edited 1 month ago by Elhigh
Codfangler
Codfangler
1 month ago

In my past the answer is 1968 Ford Cortina GT. Great engine, transmission even better, good handling and brakes. It was a sedan with great storage space.

Cransberry
Cransberry
1 month ago

1987-2001 4.0L Jeep Cherokee. As reliable as a rock, as comfortable as a full size SUV, as off road capable as any Jeep, and relatively easy on fuel with good power. I miss the ones I had horribly.

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
Reply to  Cransberry

That death wobble though!

*shutters violently*…

Cransberry
Cransberry
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

New rubber bits and avoiding Rough Country suspension products, and easily avoided!

Jim Washam
Jim Washam
1 month ago

99-04 Buick Regal or Lesabre. Ride, comfort, large and great MPG

Elhigh
Elhigh
1 month ago
Reply to  Jim Washam

Road trip heroes. If you have endless miles to inhale, it’s either this or a 757.

Dodsworth
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Dodsworth
1 month ago

1986 Chevy Caprice. As complicated as an anvil and just as reliable. I owned one with the 4.3 V6. Twenty five mpg with a 25 gallon fuel tank. Right sized family hauler.

Jim Washam
Jim Washam
1 month ago
Reply to  Dodsworth

I had a 78 Caprice Classic. 305 … What a nice car. When the transmission quit at 195,000 I had to say goodbye.

MATTinMKE
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MATTinMKE
1 month ago
Reply to  Jim Washam

My Mom & Dad had a 1977, ‘80, ‘84, and ‘89. I learned to drive on the ‘89. Great cars.

Huffy Puffy
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Huffy Puffy
1 month ago

Listen, and understand!

That Altima is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead. (… or somebody steals it)

Jb996
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Jb996
1 month ago

Porsche 911

Less so each generation, but until about the 997? Yes.
Usable comfortable daily driver, weekend canyon carver, then hit the track.
And I just hauled two full wheels in mine to the tire shop.
It does everything well.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
1 month ago
Reply to  Jb996

Yes and no.

Parts are stupid $. Service is stupid $. I have a 77. Love it but it’s not perfection.

Jb996
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Jb996
1 month ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

That’s why I work on mine. My service is cheap, and parts can be reasonable, but it does take research.
For example, a Porsche spark plug may be $25 ea., but the identical Bosch costs $8 or something; That’s still more than a Chevy, but it’s manageable.
The 996 alternator is expensive , but the 997 Bosch one is cheaper, higher capacity, and fits perfectly.
So, unless it’s something unique, then at least for my 996, there’s lots of reasonable, affordable OE, OEM parts options.

That said, rebuilding the engine is stupid expensive, and I dread an engine issue. … So maybe you’re right.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
1 month ago

2nd gen Toyota Prius. They just keep going, and refuse to die. They wound up being more reliable than the 3rd or 4th gen Prii, and they have to be the cheapest operating cost/mile possible. You can buy a nice one for $3500-5k, use it for years, and sell it and it will be worth… 3-5k.

Chrysler Minivans, IF the owners aren’t lazy and actually do the suggested maintenance on replacing the internal filter/ATF in the trans on a regular basis.

Elhigh
Elhigh
1 month ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

About the Prius, you ain’t wrong but I’m getting the impression that Gen IV is comparable, while being larger, more powerful, and even thriftier and occasionally borderline fun to drive.

Third generation had some issues (as did second gen, if you never lost any electronic functions to the capacitor plague (look it up, it’s fascinating and weird) then count yourself lucky; when I sold my Prius on it wasn’t the drivetrain that let it down, but brakes and electronics) but I haven’t been hearing as much about fourth-gen examples. A last-year example of the fourth generation Prius would be an extremely tempting choice.

I tried a fifth-gen Prius and while it is gorgeous to look at, it’s just too damn small. When I’m taking my geriatric parents somewhere, I can’t have them struggling to fold themselves under that limbo-low roofline.

Last edited 1 month ago by Elhigh
Emil Minty
Emil Minty
1 month ago

Original Plymouth Voyager. The perfect solution to an efficient family hauler in a reasonable size.

Anonymous Person
Anonymous Person
1 month ago

A regular-cab, 5-speed, 2WD S-10, Ranger, Toyota, (the ’80s one) Mazda, or any of those honest little trucks.

Nothing today even comes close, other than the Slate, which is electric, and not out yet.

1BigMitsubishiFamily
1BigMitsubishiFamily
1 month ago

I have owned three D21-model Nissans, an ’88, ’92 and ’97. I would buy two new ones RIGHT NOW if they introduced them today.

Alpscarver
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Alpscarver
1 month ago

2020 BMW 340i touring

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago

A perfect car would be the car that does car things perfectly. So of course reliability is at the top. Maybe when very little was asked of cars the Beetle would be considered. However there have been too many new car things that the Beetle can’t do or does them horribly. Toyota Camry or Corolla does everything asked and does them in such a fashion that non-car people recognize it and buy them in the millions.

Todd Beauchamp
Todd Beauchamp
1 month ago

2004 Forester XT – Sleeper, Good in snow, lots of space… 5.3 Seconds to 60

Ford_Timelord
Ford_Timelord
1 month ago
Reply to  Todd Beauchamp

I was going to say Tercel 4wd Wagon. But the Forester XT improves on it in almost every way. I’d sway towards the 2006 styling though because I believe you can get better headlamps in the higher end models.

Cars? I've owned a few
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Cars? I've owned a few
1 month ago
Reply to  Ford_Timelord

It wasn’t prefect, but I LOVED my Tercel 4WD SR5.

Hoonicus
Hoonicus
1 month ago

10-15 years old, near mint condition, private local seller, asking 1/4 or less of OPP, under 75k miles., best year of model (do research,know what to look for).
MO

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago

Honda Fit/Jazz (Gen1)

I will also accept the Honda Element.

No explanations required.

Gurpgork
Gurpgork
1 month ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

The Element is an incredible piece of machinery.

EXL500
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EXL500
1 month ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Came here to recommend the Fit, but any generation.

NebraskaStig
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NebraskaStig
1 month ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

This is the way.

Jay Mcleod
Jay Mcleod
1 month ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Yeah, no.

One was in the family. Second Gen. Dog slow. Cheaply made. Noisy. A penalty box that no one was sad it went away and it’s never been discussed again.

Gene
Gene
1 month ago

My pick is the Ford Ranger Super Duty. Strong enough for hard work and nimble.

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Gene
Gene
1 month ago

No one said Miata yet? Wow!

Dylan
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Dylan
1 month ago
Reply to  Gene

I guess no one wanted to be correct

Gene
Gene
1 month ago
Reply to  Dylan

I believe you.

Jb996
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Jb996
1 month ago
Reply to  Gene

That is the answer.
Or so I’ve heard.

Gene
Gene
1 month ago
Reply to  Jb996

Funny. I hear that somewhere too. Hmm

Zipn Zipn
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Zipn Zipn
1 month ago
Reply to  Jb996

Is Always The Answer

Zelda Bumperthumper
Zelda Bumperthumper
1 month ago

E39 M5. In Lemans Blue with a Caramel interior, of course.

pizzaman09
pizzaman09
1 month ago

I used to have an 02 e39 M5 in LeMans Blue over extended leather Caramel interior. It was possibly the most competent, well put together and well rounded car, period. Beyond also being very pretty.
I only sold mine as it was costing me about $1 per mile to drive in total consumables, repairs and insurance. I replaced it with an e36 M3 which is about 1/3 of the cost of said M5 per mile.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
1 month ago

All cars are a compromise. Durability vs efficiency, and efficiency can be taken as power of economy which are themselves at cross purposes. No car is more efficient than a race car but in the words of Colin Chapman the perfect race car falls apart as it crosses the finish line. Good looks and comfort engament etc. can conflict.

I’m kind of fond of Mercedes Benz W123s but I’d also be happy with a Lamborghini Espada.

Lotus 7s, Unimogs, and Checker Cabs were all perfect for their purpose.

Gurpgork
Gurpgork
1 month ago

The Toyota T-100 was, in my opinion, the best vehicle ever made. It was rugged, practical, comfortable, spacious, easy to work on, fun, and above all else: gorgeous. It had clean lines, excellent proportions and a face that looked like a truck and not like an angry fish.
Look upon the Toyota T-100, and weep at what they’ve taken from you.

Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
1 month ago

Volvo wagons back in the brick-on-wheels era (200/700/900).

Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
1 month ago

Amazed with my restraint last night; I didn’t say the Renault 4, even if that’s my actual opinion. But I know I’m worng about many things, so I kept it sensible with what I believe is a consensual opinion around here. I actualy have a more modern Volvo station wagon (’06 V50, base model), and it’s ok, but I’ll always regret buying it because of the money I ended up spending on it – the engine grenaded itself after 100km with the title under my name, so ultimately I burned over €5000 on what’s now a €2000 car – I could have bought a pretty decent 945 for €5000 at that time.

Last edited 1 month ago by Do You Have a Moment To Talk About Renaults?
Jack Trade
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Jack Trade
1 month ago

Odd choice I know, but Porsche 911.

Perhaps not as much now as it once was, but it was probably the best all-around attempt (that mostly succeeded) at offering near supercar performance in an everyday package you can live with. That’s the (original) reason why you’d see a ton on the road.

Even its liabilities speak to that – the unusual engine placement was done to help it be able to operate on snowy roads.

There is no substitute.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

Well a 911 and the Beetle are pretty much the same car so you and Jason mostly agree.

Jb996
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Jb996
1 month ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

I should have read first. I made about the same comment above.

Second vote for 911.

M SV
M SV
1 month ago

The cheaper something is the more it can get away with. Or something that owns it’s utilitarian roots. Any generation of jimney or Daihatsu rocky might be at that intersection. Just about any kei truck and vans too. They do what you ask for a low price.

Something with too much tech might be close to perfect at the time for won’t last as tech develops. Gen 2 Prius is up there but so many people wish it had a bigger battery with charging now they wish it had a different chem battery. So many bev have been described as best or perfect only to be not to be a few years later.

I could see something like a diesel excursion be considered perfect because there isn’t anything else like it. It does what it does well and no one has bothered to challenge it.

Last edited 1 month ago by M SV
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