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Which Cheap VW Is More Your Style? 1987 VW Fox vs 2003 VW New Beetle

Sbsd 1 29 2026
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Once upon a time, Volkswagen was the undisputed king of cheap cars in America. Beetles sold like hotcakes. Rabbits did pretty well too, despite mounting pressure from Japanese brands. But as Robert Frost once wrote, nothing gold can stay, and VW’s fortunes took a turn for the worse by the early ’90s. New boss Ferdinand Piëch turned the company around by abandoning the bottom end of the market almost entirely, and moving the brand upmarket, where it remains today. Cheap Volkswagens are a thing of the past – unless you’re looking at the used market, like we’re going to do.

We looked at two front-wheel-drive cars with way more power than sense yesterday, and I was surprised to see so many of you go for the Dodge Daytona. I thought for sure it was going to lose. But I guess the big Chevy just wasn’t interesting enough to make a convincing argument. The Daytona won by a nearly two-to-one margin.

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You know I agree. I have no use for a GM W-body that isn’t one of the early Cutlass Supreme coupes with a Quad 4 and a stickshift. And I’ve always regretted having to sell my old Chrysler Laser, but it just wasn’t the right car for that point in my life. And I passed on an ’85 Daytona Turbo with a blown head gasket for $500 when I lived in Portland, because my MGB was in pieces at the time and there was no way I could take on another project. I’m not even thinking about project cars right now, but if I were, a Daytona would certainly be something I’d consider.

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My earliest automotive memories are of a Volkswagen, a beige ’69 Beetle that my dad drove. He took me to see Star Wars at the drive-in in it when I was four years old. Later, we had a Dasher and a Golf, and my first car was a ’79 Scirocco. I have great admiration and respect for VW’s simpler offerings, and frankly some contempt for overpriced follies like the Phaeton and the ID.Buzz. Today, for your consideration, I have a couple of simple VWs that can be had for cheap: one from the late 1980s, and one from the early 2000s. Let’s check them out.

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1987 Volkswagen Fox GL – $2,300

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Engine/drivetrain: 1.8-liter OHC inline 4, five-speed manual, FWD

Location: Kingsport, TN

Odometer reading: 64,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives, but needs brake and fuel injection work

When automakers need to fill in the bottom of their lineups, it’s common for them to import an inexpensive car from another market. When Volkswagen wanted a cheaper model than the Golf to compete with the likes of Yugo and Hyundai, it turned to its Brazilian operations for this little car: the Fox. Despite offering practically nothing in the way of options, and pricing the Fox as aggressively as possible, VW still lost money on it, and didn’t sell too many. These days, a clean Fox is a rare sight indeed. Sadly, this isn’t the cool two-door wagon version; it’s a four-door sedan, but it’s still neat to see.

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The Fox used the Audi-style longitudinal engine layout rather than the transverse arrangement of the Golf and Jetta. Its engine is the basic EA827 four-cylinder displacing 1.8 liters, and only manual transmissions were offered. Since this is the fancier GL model, it should have a fifth gear; base-model Foxes made do with a four-speed. This one has only 64,000 miles on it, but the seller says it needs some help. They claim its Bosch CIS fuel injection system is “trashed,” and they recommend converting it to a carburetor, but that feels like a step backward to me, especially considering that the car does currently run. To me, it’s always better to fix a stock setup than go off on your own modifying things. It also needs brakes, but the parts to do them are included.

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The interior of the Fox is about as basic as it gets, and the only options i remember were air conditioning and various stereos. If you wanted power windows, or even power steering for that matter, you had to look elsewhere. But simple is good when it comes to inexpensive cars. The interior of this one is in decent shape, but it’s dirty. A little elbow grease would go a long way.

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The clearcoat on the paint is shot, so it’s pretty dull outside. But it looks straight and rust-free. It also has a little spoiler on the trunk lid that most of them don’t have, which looks kinda cool. I seem to remember these coming in only a handful of colors, at least in the early years: this cranberry red, dark blue, silver, white, and maybe black?

2003 Volkswagen New Beetle GLS – $2,750

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Engine/drivetrain: 2.0-liter OHC inline 4, five-speed manual, FWD

Location: Little Falls, MN

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Odometer reading: 187,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

VW’s move upmarket made room at the bottom of its lineup for something cool, and that something was the New Beetle. The only trouble is that because VW didn’t really offer a base model of the New Beetle, it ended up being more expensive than the more practical Golf. Hardly the dirt-cheap “People’s Car” that the original was. But now, twenty years later, you can pick up New Beetles for a song. This one is for sale at a wholesale used car lot in Minnesota, for less than three grand.

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The New Beetle was basically the same as the Golf under the skin, including this one’s nice, simple “two-point-slow” four-cylinder engine. It may not have the juice that the turbocharged variants did, but it’s a whole lot more durable and reliable. No need for premium fuel or synthetic oil; this thing will run just fine on the cheap stuff. It has a lot of miles on it, but the seller says it runs and drives great.

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It looks all right inside for its age and mileage, but there are some popped seams on the driver’s seat, and some other signs of wear. Of course, it wouldn’t be a 2000s VW without at least one warning light on the dash; in this case, it’s the airbag light. Could be worse, I suppose.

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It looks really good outside – for a Minnesota car. But then you look closely, and you see that rust hole at the front edge of the rocker panel, and you start wondering how it looks underneath. I guess at this price, it doesn’t matter too much; you just run it for a few years until it gets to be a problem. In the meantime, that orange paint is pretty sharp, and it should be easy to find in a parking lot.

I know that because of the issues with some of the fancier models in recent years, a lot of you are gun-shy about Volkswagens. But these are not the over-complicated nightmares that you’ve heard so many horror stories about. They’re straightforward cars, and should be pretty reliable if you treat them right. So which one would you take a chance on?

 

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Dottie
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Dottie
5 minutes ago

From a both day to a neither day, perfectly balanced lol

Gilbert Wham
Gilbert Wham
1 minute ago
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Yup. I couldn’t even be bothered to choose ‘least worse’.

DDayJ
DDayJ
8 minutes ago

I learned to drive a manual on an 87 Fox just like this, only blue.

Luxobarge
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Luxobarge
11 minutes ago

No to both. I’d rather take the bus.

Phil
Phil
11 minutes ago

Oh god. Whichever one can make it far enough down the road to the nearest real car for sale, I guess. Given the “trashed” fuel delivery system of the Fox, it’s going to be the Beetle and I’ll just pretend this isn’t the car that the snotty girls drove to my high school.

Stacheface
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Stacheface
15 minutes ago

I’ll take the fox, already have our 2000 NB, love/hate relationship with that thing. I half jokingly refer to it being the most reliable crappy car we have, like the major stuff is great but there’s always some dumb little thing breaking on it. Has less than 70k on it too

Dennis Ames
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Dennis Ames
16 minutes ago

My sister had a Fox of this era, Always breaking down. I’d call is a piece of crap, but that would be insulting to crap. Beetle

Melendez69
Melendez69
18 minutes ago

I love the color, but I’ve always hated the look of the new Beetles. I’m in love with the original. What does the Fox say….

JDS
JDS
28 minutes ago

I owned an 87 Fox back in my grad-school days. Peeling clear coat and bad paint are par for the course. Mine had rusty body panels — in Colorado! It was, however, an excellent beater. No problems negotiating I-70 traffic to A-Basin or Copper with studded snow tires on all four corners, no worries about parking in sketchy downtown lots, and easy to render un-stealable with an easily-accessed fuel pump relay in the dashboard fuse box.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s a cheap beater car. My Fox’s value instantly doubled any time I put my mountain bike on the home-made roof rack, but it’s a GOOD beater car. Also, having a certain amount of pride, I don’t think I could bring myself to buy a New Beetle.

Cheats McCheats
Cheats McCheats
29 minutes ago

I’ve always wanted a fox, even when I was a wee lad 40 years ago, I wanted one.

Brandon Forbes
Brandon Forbes
33 minutes ago

No question, Fox for me. The Beetle has way too many miles and too much rust for the price. While I don’t really want the Fox either, it’s still the better choice.

Ash78
Ash78
40 minutes ago

Both are wildly overpriced, IMO, but if I had to buy one to daily drive immediately, the Beetle is the hands-down winner.

As a spare/project car, maybe Fox. But having living through 80s, 90s and 00s VWs, I’m not going to pretend the 2000s were actually worse than the previous 2 decades.

Cloud Shouter
Cloud Shouter
44 minutes ago

Fox. It’s rarer and was the background vehicle of choice for Batman starring Michael Keaton

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
46 minutes ago

Beetle’s 2.slow will be reliable, just check the timing belt. And built to a far better build standard than the Fox would have ever been.

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
52 minutes ago

The Fox is more interesting to me. I would have gone for the Beetle if it were a TDI.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
52 minutes ago

I cannot think of the last time I saw a Fox.
It’s going to be simpler to repair and maintain too.

I vote for the Brazilian mammal today.

Last edited 52 minutes ago by Urban Runabout
Frank C.
Frank C.
53 minutes ago

Bosch L Jetronic was ridiculously cheap and easy to work on. CIS not so much.

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
54 minutes ago

My initial reaction was oooo Fox! Then I read the article, and yeah Fox. A few weekends, or a whole summers worth and it’ll be as good as it can be. I doubt I’ll loose money on it because Volkswagen Nerds are weird, even if they don’t like these things. If I’m forced to cruise around in it for a few years I woudn’t hate that.

Baker Stuzzen
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Baker Stuzzen
1 hour ago

Fox. The air bag light combined with the broken nose scares me off the Bug. If they’re so cheap, I bet you can find less rusty non-crash-damaged ones for this price.

Last edited 1 hour ago by Baker Stuzzen
M. Park Hunter
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M. Park Hunter
1 hour ago

Basic maintenance like oil changes is a nightmare on the new Beetles. It’s probably easier to fix the fuel injection on the Fox. Old skool cheap for me!

James McHenry
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James McHenry
1 hour ago

Okay, here’s the deal. Neither of these cars are particularly known for shining reliability. I don’t mind a New Beetle, but it is rusty and my family has had tons of bad luck with theirs. Heck, a Turbo S came into the family…with a blown engine. My brother parted that out. My late grandfather had a TDI when they were new: that was hit by a drunk in a pickup. The sister-in-law’s family had one that had all the transmission issues. And I have a Real Beetle. So no New Buggo for me, especially a rusty one from Minniesoda.

Besides, Vulpes Vulpes is my favorite animal. VW Fox chosen today.

Last edited 1 hour ago by James McHenry
4jim
4jim
1 hour ago

Decades ago I was told “VWs never die they just get worse”. Here are some examples.

I don't hate manual transmissions
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I don't hate manual transmissions
1 hour ago

When I was young, we had a 90cc Honda three wheeler that came with a small tool pouch with two wrenches and a slip joint pliers. That was about all you ever needed to do repairs on the thing. I’d imagine that same set of tools would take care of most issues with that Fox, so it gets my vote today.

StillNotATony
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StillNotATony
1 hour ago

I picked the Fox. What’s the worst that could happen?

Arrest-me Red
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Arrest-me Red
1 hour ago

Purely on condition, Beetle.

4jim
4jim
1 hour ago

I went for the beetle but if that Fox would have been the 2d wagon (shooting brake?), I would be all over that. I loved those back when they were new.

Some rust, yes but Minnesota needs a lot of salt to get rid of ice.

Last edited 1 hour ago by 4jim
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