Sometimes it takes me ages to choose cars for this feature. Often, I’ll find one car I really want to write about, and then struggle to find a worthy competitor to it. But when it was time to choose cars for today, I stumbled on two cheerful little cars with similar origin stories, for sale in the same place. Easy choice.
Yesterday’s cars were similar too, but had led very different lives. The vote was split pretty evenly, but the super-original AMC Rebel came out on top. The Chevy Chevelle had plenty of fans, especially with its manual transmission, but its piecemeal nature, and some questions about some of the upgrades, turned enough of you off to give the Rebel the win.
The Chevelle would absolutely have been my choice 25 or 30 years ago, but I’m not a kid anymore. I’m embracing my inner (and increasingly, outer) old man today and taking the nice clean Rebel to the early-bird special. Or maybe to Culver’s, to give them back their sign.

Taking a car on a long road trip is a great way to bond with it, for better or worse. Cross enough state lines, and you’re bound to gain an appreciation for a machine, even one ill-suited to long-distance travel. Both of today’s cars claim to have been “all over the US,” but neither one seems like the sort of car you’d choose for such travels. Let’s take a look at them, and see which one makes more sense for long trips.
2003 Mini Cooper – $3,000

Engine/drivetrain: 1.6-liter OHC inline 4, CVT automatic, FWD
Location: Seattle, WA
Odometer reading: 146,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
The new Mini made a huge splash when it arrived in the US in 2002. Enthusiastic buyers snapped them up like hotcakes. But it didn’t take long for the honeymoon to end; it turned out that BMW’s stewardship of the brand didn’t produce a car any more consistently reliable than British Leyland’s. Things have gotten better now, but these early Minis are at best hit-or-miss. One that has made it this far, and has traversed the entire continent, is either one of the good ones, or has been very well cared-for.

The Mini was available in two flavors in the US: the Cooper, and the Cooper S. A lower-trim Mini One was offered elsewhere, but we never got that one. This Mini Cooper is powered by a 1.6-liter four-cylinder that drives the front wheels through a continuously variable transmission made by ZF. This transmission doesn’t have a great reputation, but then, neither does the five-speed manual in early Minis. The fact that this one is still going strong is more evidence that it’s been well maintained.

The interior looks a little worn, and the headliner is falling down, but I’ve certainly seen worse. It wouldn’t be a British car without some electrical gremlins: the sunroof and power locks are both dead, and apparently using the turn signal sometimes turns on the high beam headlights. Hey, it could be worse.

It’s positively festooned with stickers, which you may or may not like. It has a few dings and scrapes, and a cracked taillight, but it’s basically straight. The tow hitch, I feel, is a bit optimistic; I can’t imagine towing anything with this thing, especially with the transmission’s reputation.
2009 Smart Fortwo Passion Cabrio – $3,000

Engine/drivetrain: 1.0_liter DOHC inline 3, five-speed automated manual, RWD
Location: Olympia, WA
Odometer reading: 188,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
At the risk of incurring Mercedes’s ire, I have to confess that I don’t “get” the Smart. It seems like such a weird way of going about making a city car. I can appreciate the engineering, but honestly, I can’t think of anything it could do that a Geo Metro couldn’t do just as well, with a lot less trouble. Admittedly I’ve never driven a Smart; maybe it makes more sense if you drive one. I have driven a Metro longish distances, and it was unpleasant, to put it mildly. I can’t imagine a Smart is any better. Nevertheless, the seller of this one claims to have driven it “all over America.”

The Smart’s engine is a 999 cc three-cylinder, mounted under the rear floor and driving the rear wheels through an automated manual gearbox. The gearbox has an occasional problem where it won’t shift into reverse unless you put it in drive first. I’ve had full manual transmissions that were like that before; I wonder if it’s the same sort of problem? It otherwise runs and drives fine. The seller says it has an aftermarket exhaust that’s a bit loud, which can be fun if you like it, and wearying if you don’t.

We don’t get any interior photos, and the seller says it’s “pretty ripped up.” Okay, fine, but show us. They do say that the convertible top has been replaced. Apparently it goes down fine, but needs help going back up. It’s got an aftermarket Pioneer stereo with Bluetooth, to provide a better soundtrack than the loud exhaust.

These things are cute, I have to give them that, and the convertible version looks especially good. This one has been lowered slightly, which probably makes the ride even worse, but gives it a good stance. I don’t think the gas flap is supposed to be flat black; it has likely been replaced at some point. The rest of it looks clean and well-kept.
[Mercedes Note: Truth be told, this Smart is actually pretty rough. The transmission not always reaching reverse could be anything from a worn shifter module to an old clutch actuator. This problem could persist for many years without ever getting worse, or one day the car could just choose to forget about reverse entirely.
The roof not being able to close without help is a real issue. Either this new roof was not installed correctly or a part of it, like the slider mechanism, is broken. The dice roll here is that one day, the roof can get jammed and stuck in the open position. The Smart Cabrio roof wizard, Richard, can fix it.
The aftermarket exhaust is from Boeschbuilt/Genius Parts. It’s a product by the same man who built the coolest Smart Hayabusa in America. His exhaust had quite a nice soundtrack!
The red panels are known for peeling with a near 100 percent failure rate. This car was likely repainted, wrapped, or spent most of its life in a garage.
While there are no photos of the interior, I can already tell you that “rough” doesn’t go far enough to explain it. This car came with the optional tachometer and clock pods, but one of the pods is snapped off and missing.
The fuel door actually is supposed to be black on a 2009. However, the roof rails on this example are supposed to be silver, not black. – MS]
I’ve taken a lot of long road trips in my time, in a lot of different cars, and one thing I can say is that for Interstate work, bigger is better. Tiny cars like these get shoved around by crosswinds and passing trucks, and the choppy ride and road noise are tiresome after a while. But kudos to the sellers of these two for braving the open road in them. You don’t have to retrace their steps, of course. You can enjoy one or the other of them in any way you see fit. But you must choose between them, for that is our purpose here.









I just saw a mini with a gosh darn bottle cap opener on the front fender. This mini does not have a bottle opener. Therefore smart wins.
…unless its sole purpose is hauling bikes ‘n such. (They’re not going to fit inside!)
Easy vote today. Although I’ll admit I’d like to feel the wind in my hair in that Smart for a few minutes, anyway.
As someone who had both back in the early aughts- the Mini is the winner in this case. I would prefer the ForTwo Cabrio against the standard Mini, but the condition of this Smart is just too far gone. A Cooper S would win out over the Smart even if it was in perfect condition. You can’t beat a 1st gen Cooper S with the 6 speed.
The smart choice is Mini today. Mercedes two cents made my choice easy.
Oof it’s a toughie. I just plain don’t like Minis, and the stickers do bug me. So at first I thought this’d be easy. But a Smart not even Mercedes could love? That’s scary.
Having driven my then new 2003 Mini Cooper S on a 9,000 mile roadtrip and having driven a Smart several times on business trips, it’s an easy choice: the Mini. I hate those automated manual Smart transmissions more than CVTs. My Mini was a great road trip car and I still want to get another one some day.
I’m with you re: Cooper S. However, the standard Cooper vs. the Smart Cabrio, I would prefer the Smart. This one’s condition is too poor to justify though- Mini FTW.
If our wonderful Mercedes can’t endorse the Smart I can’t either, although the open top part is somewhat appealing. Although it’s really a “neither” day I’ll have to go with the Mini.
Mercedes’ anti-endorsement is all I need. I voted Mini.
I made the Smart choice and chose the Mini!
The battle of transmissions no one wants. I’ve road tripped in a mini for a few hours of a trip it’s fine. Smart I know can be done. I’ve seen them in some bizzar places. But of those $1k car for $3k the mini might be slightly less of a headache
Taking the Mini because I have never been Smart
MSJ’s comments on the Smart were the kicker for me. Mini please.
For the price, you get more car with the Mini. I considered the Smart, but the automated manual confused me, and Mercedes’ note schooled me: stay away. The Mini might not be a longtimer, but it’ll be okay for a while. The broken sunroof & power locks aren’t deal breakers, but the turn signal to high beams warrants some investigation.
I had no idea that the automatic option in those Minis was a CVT. I’ve driven one of the R53 models and it was a riot, even though it was basically falling apart inside and out. Today I’m picking the Mini, especially after reading Mercedes’ notes on the condition of the Smart!
Another “No Thank You” shit box show down today.
Well done.
Man these both suck. I looked up the Smart’s Boeschbuilt exhaust that Mercedes noted, and it sounds as bad as I expected. I don’t think that engine is capable of sounding good to my ears.
Since “no vote” is the loser’s way out, I will take the stupid Mini I guess. They have to buy me two cans of Goo Gone though. My track bike is sticker bombed but it’s a piece of shit for the track. I hate it on road-driven cars, and that goes double for stickers I didn’t put there myself.
It sounds way better in person! My 2012 had a Boeschbuilt exhaust for about 100,000 miles. Replaced it only because Midwest corrosion destroyed it. The downside is that you have to be okay with a loud exhaust because it’s very loud.
Yeah I can see that; videos don’t convey sound like being there IRL, so I should reserve judgement on it…. for now!
I am getting older and therefore less tolerance of louder exhausts, but on a small car I find them cuter. If it’s a jacked up truck I judge them harshly, but no one is really fronting in a Smart. They know what it is, and they’re just having fun with it.
I don’t like Smarts at all so definitely the MINI… I’ll recreate that funny Mr. Bean bit and drive it from a recliner on the roof! Ha ha
Sigh. The mini I suppose. HOWEVER, absolutely no basic transportation vehicle ever, bloody ever, is worth 3 grand if it’s, you know, fucking broken. And, dare I say it, both of these are fucking broken.
Has Mercedes already booked a flight to Washington state yet?
Based on her notes in the description I don’t think she wants to touch that Smart.
If he sold it to me for $1,500, absolutely. At $3,000? LOL nah.
For a road trip, no contest, the Mini. I driven them and they are comfortable enough for a haul. They have enough power and handle pretty well. And if you don’t have back seat passengers, you’ve got room for bags.
The Smart is great for parking in small parking spots. In a big city, that’s crucial. That’s it. Outside of that, I don’t think I would want to take it on the interstate or anywhere else. I’ve seen a few of these on the freeway, where the average speed seems to be 80 these days, and the driver always looks nervous as hell. No way I’m doing that for hours at a time in something that small and underpowered with hardly any storage.
Was leaning Mini even before reading Mercedes’ comments.
I figured which way I’d go based on the topshot and the details solidified it. Mini, mostly because I am dumb and have already bought a R53 Mini and because I needed Mercedes’ expert opinion on the Smart. Put it this way, if I was actively, actually trying to buy a Smart car I would email Mercedes because she’s the expert as far as I’m concerned.
So, Mini. That also reminds me I need to pick up some oxygen sensors for my Mini.
I’d give the smart a try on a road trip. Pack it like I do my motorcycle and stick to back roads. Line up campsites along the way. Why not.
I had a 2003 Mini with the CVT. It was a lot of fun, and I would definitely choose it over the Smart. The CVT did start making weird noises, so I was able to get it replaced under warranty after five years (then traded it in). Owners forums at the time said that the trick to longevity was to religiously change the transmission fluid, so I would check that history.
…this turned from “Oooh!” To “…Oooh.” In a hurry. The Mini has a CVT. I also wouldn’t want that stickerbomb on the back, but would feel somewhere between being ashamed to erase the previous owner’s history and annoyed by how much there is to remove. It’s like the back of a VW Bus back there.
The Smart, however, breaks my personal rule with these about “no convertibles, you are bald.” But I would rather risk scalp cancer than drive the Hippi Mini. Besides, need to make Mercedes proud. I think I’ll Get Smart and also some sunscreen and a hat with a chinstrap. Lol.
There are hats you can wear. I had a Miata, and I wore a hat, even though I have more hair than I have now.