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Which Red Hatchback Wins Your Heart? 1977 Alfa Romeo Alfetta vs 1992 Plymouth Sundance Duster

Sbsd 10 23 2025
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Before you say anything: this is a weird matchup. I know. One is a bona-fide Italian classic, and the other is a jumped-up American economy car. They don’t seem to go together. And I’m betting that a lot of you already think you know which one you want. But, as always, the devil is in the details, and after looking at both of them, you may change your mind.

Yesterday was a weird matchup too, but who says I have to always choose two cars that go together? The only rules here, as far as I can tell, are “keep David happy” and “do the SEO stuff that Peter asks for so he doesn’t have to.” So if I want to compare a Lexus luxury coupe with a featherweight Honda hybrid, I’m going to do so.

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It probably comes down to what you want out of a car, but the vast majority of you voted for the Lexus, and I can’t blame you. I think that would be my choice, too. The seller seems to really care about it, and they’re honest about the reason for the rebuilt title. And it’s a really nice car.

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Today’s matchup is one of those that looks closer on paper than it is when you actually look at the cars. They’re both 2+2 hatchbacks, they’re both manual transmissions, they’re both fuel-injected, and neither one has air conditioning. But no one in their right mind looks at these two cars and sees them as equals in any way. Luckily, I’m not often in my right mind, so putting them together makes perfect sense to me. Let’s take a look.

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1977 Alfa Romeo Alfetta GT – $3,500

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Engine/drivetrain: 2.0-liter DOHC inline 4, five-speed manual, RWD

Location: Langley, WA

Odometer reading: 33,000 miles

Operational status: “Runs and moves under its own power but is not road worthy”

If you listen to what Jeremy Clarkson says, you aren’t a real car enthusiast until you’ve owned an Alfa Romeo. The Italian firm’s cars are legendarily fun to drive, and notoriously unreliable, so living with one is supposed to make you appreciate both a good driver’s car by its own example, and a reliable car by comparing it to everything else. But is that really necessary? Does suffering really build character, or is that just some bullshit your dad told you when you went on a camping trip and it started to rain? I just rid myself of a beautiful, unreliable British car, and I don’t feel like I learned anything from the experience other than “don’t buy British cars.” Do I really need to suffer through an Alfa too, just to prove myself worthy?

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Were I not a recent veteran of MG ownership, I probably would really want this car, though. The Alfetta is the epitome of the classic Alfa experience, with a twin-cam four-cylinder engine, a rear-mounted transaxle, and a fancy DeDion rear suspension. US model Alfettas came with SPICA mechanical fuel injection, to improve emissions, and while some cars have had the system removed and replaced with carbs, this one is still intact. The seller says it starts and runs, but needs some tuning. The brakes also need bleeding, and the tires are old. In other words, bring a trailer.

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The Alfetta’s instrument panel is unusual: the tachometer is directly in front of the driver, but the speedometer and other gauges are in a separate panel in the center. In other words, you can watch the tach needle swing to the right in concert with that wonderful Alfa engine noise, while your passenger can watch the speedometer climb and wonder if maybe you shouldn’t slow down a little. This one needs some work inside, or at least some carpet and a center console. The seats don’t look too bad, and if that cover has been on the dash all along, it probably isn’t cracked underneath. And if it is, you can just leave the cover on.

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Like all Italian cars from the 1970s, it has some rust on it, covered up in black primer that I presume is some sort of rust converter. In my experience, that stuff doesn’t work nearly as well as you want it to, but at least it’s something. I’ve heard people joke that these cars started rusting on the boat on the way over to the US, which sounds like hyperbole, but it wouldn’t surprise me. I’ve seen a lot rustier Alfas being sold for more money than this, though. You can confidently lie to yourself and say “it’s not that bad.”

1992 Plymouth Sundance Duster – $2,300

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Engine/drivetrain: 3.0-liter OHC V6, five-speed manual, FWD

Location: Portland, OR

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Odometer reading: 96,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives great

The original Plymouth Duster was a two-door coupe based on the Valiant, introduced in 1970 as a cheaper alternative to the Barracuda, which had grown larger and more powerful for 1970. After the Duster bodystyle died out in 1976, the name lived on, first on the Volare, then on the Turismo, and finally on this car, the Sundance. Like the original, the idea here is having fun on a budget. This car isn’t pretending to be anything it’s not.

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The most celebrated versions of the original Duster had larger engines with more power, and Plymouth revived that idea for the Sundance Duster. This car is powered by the same 3.0 liter Mitsubishi V6 used in Chrysler minivans of the day, but with a five-speed manual transmission in place of the automatic found in the vans. It’s a good setup for this car, a little less powerful than the turbocharged four-cylinder versions, but less hassle, too. This one is still under 100,000 miles, and it runs great. It just passed Oregon’s DEQ emissions inspection, too.

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The interior is exactly what you would expect: gray plastic, and lots of it. But it’s functional, and the seats are comfortable. It’s in good condition overall, but there are a few flaws, like a burn mark on the driver’s seat and wood screws holding down the gearshift boot. The Duster package, no matter what generation, was always about being sporty on a budget, and as such, this car is missing some equipment you might expect – like air conditioning. But at least it has those flip-open rear quarter windows.

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Outside, it’s faded, and the clearcoat is gone, but it’s rust- and damage-free. I thought the Duster package came with alloy wheels, but either I was wrong or this one lost them somewhere along the way. Nothing wrong with black steelies, though. It does come with wheel covers if you want to put them on, but I assume they’re some sort of ugly silver plastic junk from Walmart.

So that’s your choice for today: On one hand, you have a rough example of a legendary marque, and on the other, a pretty nice example of a scrappy bargain performance car. Are you willing to put in the work to bring the Alfa back up to snuff, or would you rather just have fun in the Plymouth?

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Ricardo M
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Ricardo M
2 months ago

I’ve always been fascinated by mechanical fuel injection, so the chance to work on a SPICA system is actually really enticing to me.

The more I deal with automotive systems that are “impossible to work on”, the more I realize that notion came from a time before the internet, when the people that are reading AI overviews today already couldn’t be bothered to read the small text in their service manual.

I can tackle the rust and all other potential issues with pure, distilled delusion.

Acd
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Acd
2 months ago
Reply to  Ricardo M

A properly set up SPICA fuel injection is actually very good, how hard can it be?

Ricardo M
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Ricardo M
2 months ago
Reply to  Acd

To my understanding, it’s 4 pumps and a valve, plus a mechanical-advance-distributor-ish device to control said valve, and a couple solenoids for cold start.

Dan1101
Dan1101
2 months ago

I’m frozen with indecision. I just can’t.

Comet_65cali
Comet_65cali
2 months ago

Not going to lie: I want the Alfetta for the drivetrain (2.0L and transaxle) cause I wanna make a sweet fenderless hot-rod with a twin-cam.

Ricardo M
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Ricardo M
2 months ago
Reply to  Comet_65cali

Honestly, it would be a fantastic base for a Locost 7, Alfas never rust at the front subframe/suspension since it’s always bathed in oil, and the other hardware (axles, brakes) are supposedly high-quality.

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
3 months ago

Can I go back and get the Cima?

TriangleRAD
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TriangleRAD
3 months ago

No question, it’s the Plymouth for me. I always liked the long-hood-short-deck look of the Shadow/Sundance twins. The Mitsubishi 6G72 might have made only 141 hp (20 less than Nissan’s comparable SOHC 3.0) but it was the 171 ft-lb of torque that would put a smile on your face when it was shoehorned into this sub-2700 lb compact. They also made a metric crapton of these engines so parts will be plentiful well into the future.

Restoring the original Duster graphics package will go even further to scratch the RADwood itch.

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
3 months ago

The Alfa had me at the under hood shot. Their engines are beautiful and I’m sure I would be have a lot of opportunities to look at it.

Like the Duster package but I have an ingrained distain for transverse mounted V6s

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
2 months ago
Reply to  Frank Wrench

Yeah I hate transverse V6 shit too, but somehow an older Italian car is even worse LOL

Gilbert Wham
Gilbert Wham
3 months ago

Hoo, tight race today. Alfa please. I don’t want the fwd Mopar thing. Especially not as it’s the colour that tells you your dog is a little, um, too excited, n’est ce pas?

Cheats McCheats
Cheats McCheats
3 months ago

I want to drive an Alfa. I sure as shit don’t want to own one. Send me a duster, right now.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
3 months ago

You know the other one is bad when a fucking Chrysler is the better car LOL

Rob D
Rob D
3 months ago

Seeing the Alfa broken down in my driveway > Seeing the Sundance idling happily at my destination.

Mr E
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Mr E
3 months ago

Meh, I don’t even like carpet. I’m also a glutton for punishment, so I’ll take the Alfa.

Tim Cougar
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Tim Cougar
3 months ago

That interior in the Duster is making me nostalgic for the middle row of the 1993 Grand Caravan I grew up in. Same color, same material, same burn mark from a previous owner.

That Alfa is a nice car, but not for me today. Today I’m going back to the ’90s, please.

CuppaJoe
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CuppaJoe
3 months ago

In this fight, my only choice would be anything but a 90s Duster/Sundance. I’ve hated those cars since new. I’d rather take the pain and abuse from an Italian hotty than be bored to tears every time I had to see the Duster in the driveway.

JDE
JDE
3 months ago

Alfa is arguably the more attractive thing here, but beauty is only skin deep in this case. I like the sleeper dodge stealth here quite a bit more. I strangely often find myself wondering how I missed the hidden hatch cars like these as well. Honestly, I might have still went with the sundance had it been a poverty spec 4 cylinder NA version. Just because of the hidden hatch. I am baffled that was not a thing for more cars, especially family trucksters of the 90’s

MattyD
MattyD
3 months ago

Former serial Alfa owner here. The Alfettas are nice, but a bit slow due to emissions, though you can wake them up by changing the cam timing, and still keep the SPICA. BUT, Alfettas are known rusters, and this one is well on its way. The Duster is kind of a sleeper, and I’ve never driven one. It’s cheaper too. Tough call, but I voted Duster.

MATTinMKE
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MATTinMKE
3 months ago

It’s a bad idea, but I’m voting Alfa.

Rad Barchetta
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Rad Barchetta
3 months ago
Reply to  MATTinMKE

Same here. For the same reason.

Kookster
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Kookster
3 months ago

Black rubber bungee cord holding down that battery like a boss! Let’s get DUSTY! Hold my beer

Drive By Commenter
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Drive By Commenter
3 months ago

YOLO. Alfa gets my vote today. It’ll make a nice garage ornament. How hard can it be to make the fuel injection run right?

Hangover Grenade
Hangover Grenade
3 months ago

Just stick a Weber 32/36 DGEV on there.

I did that on an old AMC Rambler, and it ran like a new car.

PresterJohn
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PresterJohn
3 months ago

This was actually a tough choice, but I went with the Alfa. The siren song was too enticing. God help me.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
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The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
3 months ago

The Alfa is just plain cool. I’m sure it is a pile of hot garbage in terms of reliability, but that’s my mechanic’s problem, not mine. I will enjoy looking at this thing while waiting for a tow truck.

I’m surprised to see the Plymouth is getting so many votes. If you voted for the Sundance, turn in your car enthusiast’s card. You have failed at the task at hand. The Plymouth may be cheap and reliable, but it sucks. Seller also says the seats are in good condition with only one cigarette burn. If having a single cigarette burn is a positive feature, I don’t even want to know what seller isn’t telling us.

Last edited 3 months ago by The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
JDE
JDE
3 months ago

it is a manual V6. Yeah it is likely a hot pile of garbage like the alfa clearly is, but I imagine the manual and big engine will sway a lot of us.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
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The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
3 months ago
Reply to  JDE

I get the appeal of the manual. I’m less enthused about the V6. It apparently only puts out 141 hp, so it’s not exactly a rocket ship. It is still slow, just not painfully slow like the base model.

MaximillianMeen
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MaximillianMeen
3 months ago

I just think of the joyful time you’d have replacing the rear bank of spark plugs! One reason I’m in no hurry to own any transverse V6/V8.

Cheats McCheats
Cheats McCheats
3 months ago

People replace spark plugs still?

MaximillianMeen
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MaximillianMeen
3 months ago

On a 33 y.o. Plymouth? I sure hope so!

JDE
JDE
2 months ago

I agree, I do see the intake is not ford like and covering up those rear plugs as well. and I imagine that it would be like a similar year GM set up and you can unbolt the top dog bone and rock the whole motor a little forward to get to them, but I am just guessing, I have never owned or really worked on a v6 one of these.

FleetwoodBro
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FleetwoodBro
2 months ago

If you’re standing by the side of the road with that broken down Alfa, somebody interesting might stop and help you. It could be the woman/man of your dreams. The Sundance, according to a proprietary formula too secret to be disclosed in a public forum, is 68% more likely to get you murdered.

Baja_Engineer
Baja_Engineer
2 months ago

The Duster fits into the underappreciated survivors category. These are growing on an increasing number of enthusiasts.
The irrational powertrain combo is icing on the cake

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
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The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
2 months ago
Reply to  Baja_Engineer

I get the appeal of underappreciated survivors. I don’t think it applies to this car, though – this isn’t a particularly nice example of a Duster. If it were in better condition I could see where it would have some appeal.

EastbayLoc
EastbayLoc
3 months ago

I know the drill. “What kind of shortcomings would a more desirable car need to have in order to persuade me to choose a Chrysler product?” Even a Chrysler product with a cigarette burn in the seat and probably a smell of cigarette smoke that never goes away.

No way I’m choosing that Sundance Duster. If I do , then I have to drive it or spend time in it. No way in hell that’s happening. Plus, I know that Alfa’s engine. know how to tune it, am not afraid of the SPICA system and will just buy some new tires. After that, I’ll have a car I would enjoy spending time in and driving around. Alfa all the way.

Last edited 3 months ago by EastbayLoc
Gen3 Volt
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Gen3 Volt
3 months ago

I always look at these challenges as “I’m stuck with these wheels for at least six months”, so make it the Mitsu-engined Duster for me.

Matthew C
Matthew C
3 months ago

I love Alfa’s but the juice may not be worth the squeeze for this model. The Plymouth Duster would be quirky fun car. The Mitsubishi sourced v6 makes smooth and approachable power. No rust is a plus. I would immediately lose the steelies and get some alloys.

JDE
JDE
3 months ago
Reply to  Matthew C

or go full sleeper and get some walmart special plastic hubcaps and embarass a few people?

Griznant
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Griznant
3 months ago

I already have a rusty Alfa with Iniezione so I’m going with the Duster. It’s cheaper, won’t bankrupt me (further) and I’ve driven one previously with the V6 and that car was actually quick.

M. Park Hunter
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M. Park Hunter
2 months ago
Reply to  Griznant

Plus, you can use the dusted to go get parts for the Alfa you already have.

Clark B
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Clark B
3 months ago

Those Mitsubishi V6s are almost unkillable. Sure, you might end up burning enough oil to create your own personal smoke screen, but it won’t die.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
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The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
3 months ago
Reply to  Clark B

I’m not sure “unkillable” is positive trait in a ’92 Plymouth Sundance. Reliability just means you’re stuck with this car longer.

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