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Which Stickshift Wagon Would You Support? 2003 Subaru Outback vs 2003 Toyota Matrix

Sbsd 10 9 2025
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If you’re looking for a cheap, reliable car, choosing one with a manual transmission usually eliminates a lot of potential headaches. Automatics need care and feeding to keep them healthy, and you can never tell how well someone took care of one. With a manual, as long as it goes into all the gears and the clutch doesn’t slip, there’s not a whole lot that can go wrong. But convincing someone who isn’t a car person to choose a stickshift car is often an uphill battle. Nevertheless, we’re going to take a look at a couple of user-friendly manuals today that might fit the bill.

Yesterday was all about seating capacity, with two seven-passenger vehicles battling it out. I couldn’t tell from the comments how this one was going to go, but in the end, the Kia Sedona won by a pretty sizeable margin, despite having some confusion over its title status.

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I think that’s the right answer. The first-generation Chrysler Pacifica is a neat car, but if someone needs capacity for cheap, it’s hard to recommend anything other than a good basic minivan. It’ll do everything you need it to, and shouldn’t cause you much trouble along the way.

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Only once in all my years of friends coming to me for car advice have I convinced someone to buy a stickshift car instead of an automatic. The car was a Ford Escort wagon, and it served them well for a good long while. Many other friends have chosen cheap cars with automatics, because they either couldn’t or wouldn’t drive a manual, and without fail, the component that gave them problems was the transmission. Manuals are just more durable, and if you don’t have a lot to spend, you don’t have a lot to spend on repairs. So why not eliminate that particular failure point? Today we’re going to look at two wagons that are common, practical, known to be pretty reliable, and have three pedals on the floor. Let’s check them out.

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2003 Subaru Outback – $2,495

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Engine/drivetrain: 2.5-liter DOHC flat 4, five-speed manual, AWD

Location: Gladstone, OR

Odometer reading: 194,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

Here it is, the unofficial official car of Portland, Oregon. They’re as common as Labradors, craft beers, and fledgling bands. Walk down the side streets of southeast Portland and, among all the old Crafstmans, you’ll see an Outback in roughly every third driveway, often parked next to a Toyota Prius. What you won’t find, however, are a lot of manual transmissions; like most cars in the past thirty years or so, if you wanted an Outback with a stick, you had to specifically seek it out.

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The Outback is, of course, powered by Subaru’s trademark flat-four, a generally stout engine with the unfortunate habit of springing leaks from its head gaskets. It powers all four wheels all the time through a five-speed manual transmission. This one is approaching 200,000 miles, which probably means the head gaskets have already been replaced once. It’s being sold by a dealer, so don’t expect any maintenance records. Check for leaks on the underside of the heads, and make sure there’s no water in the oil, before signing any papers.

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It looks nice inside; someone obviously took care of this car, and didn’t trash it. Even the back cargo area, where the dogs ride, looks good. The ad lists a whole bunch of options on the inside, but of course, since it’s a dealership,it  doesn’t actually say how many of them still work. As always, push all the buttons on the test drive.

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It’s remarkably clean outside, and it’s one of Subaru’s better color combinations. I personally prefer the dark green, but this pale green is nice too. It has the requisite Yakima bike rack already installed on the roof rails, so you’re good to go there. I have to think, as much of a demand for these cars as there is in the Pacific Northwest, that the only reason it’s so cheap is that it’s a manual.

2003 Toyota Matrix – $2,400

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Engine/drivetrain: 1.8-liter DOHC inline 4, five-speed manual, FWD

Location: Portland, OR

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Odometer reading: 228,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives great

Some cars just inspire owners to keep them forever and ever. The Toyota Corolla, in its wagon form, seemed to be such a car. I remember more than one regular customer at the garage I worked at in Saint Paul bringing in a Corolla wagon they had bought new, and now had a ton of miles on it. When it finally did wear out, they replaced it with another Corolla wagon. I can only imagine the dismay those loyal owners felt during those couple of years after the Corolla wagon was discontinued, but before the introduction of the Matrix.

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The Matrix is, in fact, a Corolla wagon; the official name is Toyota Corolla Matrix. It’s part of the “tall wagon” class of cars that became popular in the early 2000s, not quite a crossover, but significantly taller than a typical station wagon. It’s powered by Toyota’s 1.8-liter 1ZZ-FE four-cylinder, which is a reliable engine, but has a tendency to burn oil after a while. This one has reached well over 200,000 miles, which means someone was careful about keeping the oil level topped up; a new owner will have to do the same. It does run and drive well, though.

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It looks good inside, with very little wear to show for its high mileage. The tree-shaped air freshener hanging from the mirror is a potential bad sign, though. Those things never actually remove funky odors from cars; they just add their own chemical weirdness to whatever melange is there already. Give it a good sniff and make sure it’s something you can live with.

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It’s pretty clean outside, but there’s a little wrinkle in the left front fender, and some fake plastic vents (or something) stuck on both sides. I’ll never understand the appeal of those things. But at least they just stick on; a plastic scraper and some Goo-Gone will take care of them.

Stickshift cars are a hard sell among the general population; that’s why they’re disappearing. But if you’re willing to drive one, you’ll be rewarded with not only a better driving experience, but better reliability, and often a cheaper price of entry. If you had a friend looking for a good inexpensive car, which one of these would you try to talk them into?

 

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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
31 minutes ago

Matrix! I have no interest in Subaru at all and would not recommend them to anyone…if they are interested then enjoy owning it when you could have got a car from literally any other better brand. Enjoy your head gaskets blowing a million times ha ha. Toyota is just better and they will enjoy it more and it won’t break down as much. The yoda will work fine and at least it’s also stick and wagon…after they learn it they will have an epiphany of “what did I ever do w/o a manual in my life? This is so fun and I’m never going back to a damn boring auto!) They will probably not listen anyway and go to “Outback” Steakhouse ha ha, so maybe I’ll use some back and forth reverse psychology; recommend the subie and hope they get the yoda (“No! Subaru not. Yoda. Or do Subaru. There is no Yoda.”)
Also, Subaru just took the Outback…
Out Back ha ha
“You’ll find one in every car. You’ll see”

ColoradoFX4
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ColoradoFX4
35 minutes ago

Here in the Front Range, that Subaru would fetch $4500 easy. Might be a fun roadtrip to make a quick $1500…

Peter Andruskiewicz
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Peter Andruskiewicz
49 minutes ago

Having owned & maintained a version of both of these for a time (2006 Subaru Outback, but with the auto, and 2003 Vibe GT with the 2ZZ & 6-speed), my heart lies with the Subie more because of the project potential (RWD conversion?), but my money would likely go to the Matrix for ease of maintenance & close to 30% better fuel economy

Dan1101
Dan1101
58 minutes ago

I like both, I prefer the Outback but I’d buy the Matrix for reliability and easier maintenance. I love opening the hood and seeing the spark plugs right there in a neat row.

Scott
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Scott
1 hour ago

It’s such a pleasure to have a showdown with both cars being good (to me). Sometimes we get one where I wouldn’t want either car, even if given to me free of charge, and I feel sad(der than usual) for at least the rest of the time it takes me to finish my coffee.

I’ve driven a Matrix (auto) and it’s fine. A Corolla wagon that will be cheap to run for many, many years. Tons of room inside: even the front passenger seat folds flat/forward. My buddy stuffed his full of music gear on a regular basis and finally wound up giving it to his gardener. Lucky gardener! 🙂 BTW, GM sold the Pontiac Vibe version towards the end with a slight lift, the usual plastic lower-body cladding, and this metallic green-brown color that is really cool. Don’t see ’em on the road anymore… maybe they all hit 350Kmiles and were scrapped?

But I’ve never owned a Subaru and I really liked them from when they still had wagons that looked like wagons instead of generic butch small penis SUVs. Plus, that’s a good green and roof rack. The price is good too. If that dealership were in LA instead of Portland, I’d probably be shaving right now before heading over to give it a look. 🙂

PS: I know there are zillions of weird concept cars announced that will never see the light of day in any form (at least in America) but this one from Dacia caught my eye on Youtube recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2FsMM5wC40 …maybe it’s all the purple bits, but I dig the little boxy shape, clip on interior bits, likely shortish range is fine for an urban runabout, etc… I mean, it’d have to be well under $20K… closer to $15K would be better, but as long as it provided some protection in an accident, I could see childless urbanites being up for something like this.

Like me. 🙂

Last edited 58 minutes ago by Scott
TriangleRAD
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TriangleRAD
1 hour ago

Love the looks of that Subaru but if I’m buying a high-mileage car and looking for reliability and ease of maintenance, AWD and a boxer are not what I’m looking for.

Lightning
Lightning
34 minutes ago
Reply to  TriangleRAD

NA Subarus are easy to maintain. You’d have to peek under the car to check, but with MLS headgaskets, that’s a really reliable engine.

Carter Young
Carter Young
1 hour ago

In Missoula, MT either of those cars at that price would be a steal; I bought a 2006 Outback with manual at 195,000 miles for $4,000 and that was about 75% of the price others were asking for similar Outbacks. Any Subaru with that many miles would have had the head gaskets replaced with ones that last forever. However, I know from experience, that at that advanced mileage, the clutch (an $1,800 job from the best Subaru shop in town) will soon be in need of replacement.

Griznant
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Griznant
1 hour ago

I would have taken either. That Subie is clean and gets my vote on that alone.

I think the 1ZZFE had the oil issue fixed after 2002. The early ones had small oil drain holes in the pistons so un-maintained sludgy oil would plug them up, stick the rings, and then you’d have an oil burning fiesta. I *believe* they corrected this for the 2003 model year.

CreamySmooth
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CreamySmooth
1 hour ago
Reply to  Griznant

My wife’s (then girlfriend) 2007 did not have this issue fixed. Burned a quart every 4-500 miles with nothing on the ground.

I tried to de-gunk the rings only to find that being low on oil continuously for some time had gracefully eroded the bearings to the point there was no measurable oil pressure below 3000rpm – but no rod knock. The scrapyard gave her a pretty decent check for a 112k mile Toyota that “ran and drove”

TDI_FTW
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TDI_FTW
1 hour ago

Definitely a both week, but push comes to shove I have more of an affinity for the Matrix, funky smells or not. Just take the interior apart a bit, air it out, and you’re probably good to go for another 200k of basic maintenance.

IRegertNothing, Esq.
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IRegertNothing, Esq.
1 hour ago

I’ll go with the Outback, but not for someone who just wants a cheap car. It would make a great hauler for someone who appreciates manual transmissions and can have some money set aside for a future head gasket or whatever. Either of these cars could need some sort of major work soon given their age and mileage, so I don’t see the dreaded Subaru head gasket failure as disqualifying.

Dogpatch
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Dogpatch
1 hour ago

yes to reliability of Toyota.
No to head gasket, wheel bearing issues with Subaru.

AlfaAlfa
AlfaAlfa
1 hour ago

I had an Outback similar to this. During the 7 years that I owned it, just about everything that could have possibly broken, broke – except the automatic transmission.
So, Toyota.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
2 hours ago

The Toyota wins by default.

Fuck Subaru head gasket shit and Escalade gas mileage LOL

Last edited 2 hours ago by Dogisbadob
Lightning
Lightning
27 minutes ago
Reply to  Dogisbadob

Check out my Fuelly for my Legacy version of this exact car. 30.0 mpg average for the last 10 fill ups, 28 mpg lifetime of my ownership. On a 10,000 mile road trip in the car at the moment. . . I trust it 100%. With MLS head gaskets that are known to be permanent fixes, that’s a known reliable engine that can go a million kms.
https://www.fuelly.com/car/subaru/legacy/2003/lightningracer/934504

Huja Shaw
Huja Shaw
2 hours ago

What did we do to deserve two solid choices?! I’ll take retro Outback that’s still a wagon.

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