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Why It’s Such A Big Deal That Chinese Automaker BYD Is Threatening To Sue Us

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Automakers have long used celebrities to give them an aura of success, style, or authenticity. This is especially important for Chinese brands, which have started to move beyond cheap cars into the realm of luxury vehicles in Europe. The latest star to endorse a Chinese automotive brand is the actor Daniel Craig, best known as James Bond, who is now the spokesperson for BYD luxury subbrand Denza.

When the company made the announcement last month, it also sent out a mix of press and marketing photos to promote the campaign, stating that Craig “will lend his image to several key vehicles being launched this year, including in marketing materials and television commercials.”

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This isn’t a campaign for the Chinese market, but one aimed at Europe, and the photos looked slightly amusing to us. There was a sense that Craig, a wonderful actor who has appeared in many films we love, looked sort of strange in the marketing materials.

Instead of posting about it on the website, we quickly put up an Instagram post that rather tamely pointed out the photos were odd. Clearly, many people agreed, because thousands of people liked and shared the post, with nearly a million seeing it before BYD threatened us with ‘legal action’ and put forth a bogus copyright claim via Instagram to have it removed.

If the image Chinese automakers want to portray is that they won’t export China’s history of authoritarian rule and press censorship alongside their cars, the behavior of BYD here is extremely disappointing.

The Original Instagram Post

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Photo: Denza/Instagram

Because it’s not currently on Instagram, above is what the slideshow post looked like. The photo was mostly factual, though it did include the commentary that the photos looked “weird as hell.” You can’t see the caption, but the caption was:

Daniel Craig’s “Bond” movies made billions across his 15-year tenure, but the former secret agent has turned towards modeling for China’s EV brand Denza and, well…the photos are something.

That’s it.

From various parts of the BYD empire there are four basic variations of the photos we used, all of which were released as press or marketing photos. One has Craig looking somewhat severe in front of an SUV. Another has Craig in a handsome sweater standing behind the Denza Z9 GT, an attractive wagon/hatch that’ll debut in Europe this summer.

The one of him with Stella Li, the longtime BYD marketing exec, in front of a sports car prototype is my favorite, especially because it looks a little like she was photoshopped in front of him (it’s possible they were together and this was just retouched so heavily it looks that way).

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Photo: Denza

If you’ve watched the excellent Knives Out films you’ve become familiar with Craig’s charming smile, so perhaps that’s why so many people online found the photos of him straight-faced so uncanny and amusing. I wish I’d saved the comments, because many people agreed there was a quality that made it seem a little like Craig had been forced to take the photo against his will.

There are sometimes instances where an automaker will use a western celebrity for a local market, and these can sometimes seem unusual to different audience. This wasn’t the case here as Li herself pointed out, saying Craig was chosen to help “bring the brand to the world” and specifically called out Europe and Latin America.

Again, this was all meant to be a quick critique of the press photos, which is an entirely valid and newsworthy thing for us to do. BYD didn’t take it that way, and have instead invoked censorship, threatened us, and broke the norms of how manufacturers and the press operate in a way that’s pretty scary if it’s allowed to stand.

BYD Europe Responds With Threats

It’s not unusual for an automaker’s PR department to be unhappy with something a journalistic outlet like The Autopian might publish, and it’s well within their right to call or email us to argue the point. This happens all the time.

BYD’s operations in Europe, as represented by their official Instagram account, didn’t attempt to argue the point with us. Instead, they went straight to threats.

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Screenshot of DM

When I saw this I admittedly found it a little amusing, and showed the other journalists who were with me at the New York Auto Show and we all had a good laugh. I may have responded with a GIF of Daniel Craig laughing himself as I pointed out that many, many other publications had used the photos.

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Screenshot of DM

While I’ll admit that using gifs to reply was a tad provocative, I was hoping to highlight the complete absurdity of the request, given that these were press and marketing photos. I don’t think they understood.

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Screenshot by DM

I responded with a few more GIFs and tried to make my point a little clearer, asking if I should just tell all the other journalists who wrote about it that they should pull it. I was trying to get them to admit that the reasoning behind pulling our post had nothing to do with “copyrights permits” and, as I suspect, was because it was perceived as being negative.

BYD didn’t respond and, instead, used the automatic copyright complaint portal on Instagram to have valid critique from a journalist pulled.

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Instagram Screenshot

This isn’t Instagram’s fault. For practical reasons, Instagram pulls a post and allows for a later appeal. If this stands, this will create a dangerous precedent, which is why we’re going to appeal and why I’m making a big deal out of this.

If Companies Can Use Bogus Copyright Claims To Pull Criticism It’ll Fundamentally Alter Press Freedoms

There are vast legal and functional precedents for how photos distributed by companies as either marketing or press images can be used by media outlets. The whole purpose of these images is to be distributed, and by labeling them as such the sender relinquishes the right to claim intellectual property so long as they’re used in an editorial way.

For instance, Lexus uses this text when you attempt to download one of their press photos:

All materials on this site are for editorial use only. The use of these materials for advertising, marketing or any other commercial purpose is prohibited.

This makes sense. The intention of these images is to be used editorially, but that doesn’t give Ford the right to use Lexus photos to sell its cars. If Ford wants to do that, it has to take its own photos of a Lexus.

What BYD is trying to do is obviously a form of censorship because there are numerous copies of these photos on Instagram, but BYD appears to have only targeted us for being negative. If BYD is allowed to do this, it means that any automaker (or company of any sort) can decide retroactively to have any content it doesn’t like removed by making an illegitimate copyright claim.

In our case, our point is even stronger because we are making a legitimate critique and providing editorial commentary of the photos. This gives us more protection legally, even if the extent of the critique is as simple as pointing out the photos have an uncanny quality to them. This is called “Fair Use” and it is clearly spelled out in US copyright law why we are allowed to do this:

[T]he fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.

While our comment on it was serious, the topic itself wasn’t. But what if it was?

Public radio program The World just released a story entitled: “Chinese EV giant BYD faces ‘forced labor’ investigation at Hungary factory.” If a journalist uses a BYD press or marketing image should BYD be allowed to have any related posts pulled because they didn’t like the coverage?

I can’t think of a time that a major European, Japanese, or American automaker has tried to pull something like this. Most of them are aware that copyright law forbids this kind of action and, more practically, why should the press give coverage to a company that tries to censor anyone who dares say something negative?

My hope is that this is a lower-level functionary at the company and that someone with a better understanding of the law will have the copyright complaint removed. Until then, we have an obligation to other journalists to not allow BYD to get away with this.

Photos: BYD/Denza unless otherwise noted

 

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Shop-Teacher
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Shop-Teacher
2 hours ago

Stick it to ’em Matt!

Grippy Caballeros
Grippy Caballeros
2 hours ago

Bring Your Defenselawyer

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
2 hours ago

Just pour some Liquid Lawyer into the cooling system of one of their press cars.

M SV
M SV
2 hours ago

I’ve seen a strange interpretation of copyright law basically saying you can’t edit images. Fair use has been under attack for some time. From the lexicon used in the dms I would say the person was China based so I doubt they would know that interpretation unless it was used on them.
Would make an absolute hilarious American libel lawsuit. Good luck proving those images aren’t “weird as hell”. UK lawsuit would be less amusing as burden on proof is on the defendant.
These are the type of shenanigans that happen when a big Chinese company starts working outside of China. They don’t understand the mediascape and their threats and line to a pet bureaucrat does nothing. They just added fuel to a fire that was on the way out. Obviously PR in China that only understand the Chinese market. Might need to hire someone with experience in western markets. Those images are probably the result of that. They look like something HK from the 60s or 70s.

CampoDF
CampoDF
2 hours ago

Someone needs to school these guys on the Streisand effect. Because, well, it’s in full effect now.

Kevin Cheung
Kevin Cheung
2 hours ago

I’d expect this from Xiaomi or the Huawei-affiliated automakers like Aito, can’t say I’m surprised though

Sid Bridge
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Sid Bridge
2 hours ago

BYD Attorney: Why did you say Mr. Craig looked weird in our ads?
MH: Because he looked weird.
BYD Attorney: Your honor, do you think Mr. Craig looks weird in these ads?
Judge: Approach the bench please.
BYD Attorney: Yes your honor.
Judge: He looks weird as ****. Ruling is for the defense. Case dismissed.

Echo Stellar
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Echo Stellar
2 hours ago
Reply to  Sid Bridge

This is precisely what would (and should) happen!

Black Peter
Black Peter
2 hours ago
Reply to  Sid Bridge

Subpoena Mr. Craig himself, no way he can defend they don’t “look weird” under oath..

Rippstik
Rippstik
2 hours ago

I see some new James Bond Films arriving soon:

The Copyright is Not Enough
Never Say Instagram Again
License to Post
From China with Love
You Only Post Twice

Jay Vette
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Jay Vette
2 hours ago
Reply to  Rippstik

Octoposty

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
2 hours ago
Reply to  Jay Vette

Dr No. (Starring Matt Hardigree)

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
2 hours ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Hardigree would be a decent Bond villain, although if someone from this site has to be cast in that role I feel like Uncle Adrian is a shoe in

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
2 hours ago

As Jaws?

Bags
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Bags
48 minutes ago

Give him a black on black Jag to drive and he might consider it.

Sid Bridge
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Sid Bridge
1 hour ago
Reply to  Rippstik

Four Our Eyes Only

Who Knows
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Who Knows
1 hour ago
Reply to  Rippstik

The spy who sold out

Nick Fortes
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Nick Fortes
10 minutes ago
Reply to  Rippstik

Post Another Day
On Her Majesty’s Ban List
From China With Hate

Beto O'Kitty
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Beto O'Kitty
2 hours ago

Post it on “Craigslist” and really piss them off!

Horizontally Opposed
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Horizontally Opposed
2 hours ago

Exercising free speech via some company’s proprietary platform is just the paradox we live in right now. Then again was never much different before, unless you’re Gutenberg and print your own damn fliers. I hope you guys prevail.

Last edited 2 hours ago by Horizontally Opposed
A Reader
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A Reader
1 hour ago

well stated – everyone’s trying to overlay rights against governmental suppression of speech onto private company’s actions – quite the paradox

Gen3 Volt
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Gen3 Volt
2 hours ago

Meta’s equally at fault of course.

Last edited 2 hours ago by Gen3 Volt
I_drive_a_truck
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I_drive_a_truck
2 hours ago

Please make sure this this article is posted to Instagram…

NC Miata NA
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NC Miata NA
2 hours ago

I don’t know what BYD paying James Bond to advertise but I’m ready to buy gin and an Aston Martin.

Shooting Brake
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Shooting Brake
2 hours ago

Bad move BYD

Gen3 Volt
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Gen3 Volt
2 hours ago
Reply to  Shooting Brake

Given that before reading this my default re: BYD was “have fun stormin’ the castle!”, that’s quite the understatement.

DialMforMiata
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DialMforMiata
2 hours ago

I’m just disappointed that their pissy little request didn’t close with “Thank You for Your Attention In This Matter!”.

Avalanche Tremor
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Avalanche Tremor
3 hours ago

“That’s strange, when we push that button at home the journalists are instantly erased from the internet and never heard from again. How are they able to send a moving picture back to us? Is this broken?”

4jim
4jim
3 hours ago

If someone cannot take a joke they should not be in the car business.

V10omous
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V10omous
3 hours ago

I’d be hitting the Phish Alert button on that DM for sure.

IRegretNothing, Esq, DVM, BBQ
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IRegretNothing, Esq, DVM, BBQ
3 hours ago

Careful BYD, what The Autopian lacks in legal funds it more than makes up for in fans and members who can get very petty and troll-y online.

Gen3 Volt
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Gen3 Volt
2 hours ago

Right! We’re wiry, and cunning. They won’t even see us coming!

Nsane In The MembraNe
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Nsane In The MembraNe
2 hours ago
Reply to  Gen3 Volt

They may have money, but we’ve got an army of shitposters

FormerTXJeepGuy
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FormerTXJeepGuy
3 hours ago

Oh, now they care about copyrights?

Drive By Commenter
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Drive By Commenter
2 hours ago

COTD

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
2 hours ago

And now we have Americans arguing that their copyright claims aren’t valid here.

Oh, how the turn tables.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
2 hours ago

+1

Eric Gonzalez
Eric Gonzalez
3 hours ago

Delete everything or they will send James fucking Bond to eliminate you

Tbird
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Tbird
1 hour ago
Reply to  Eric Gonzalez

Hey, if you gotta go…be done in by the best. Connery.

Last edited 1 hour ago by Tbird
Lockleaf
Lockleaf
3 hours ago

Hollywood has been playing this game with Youtubers for years in violation of reasonable fair use standards. Even if overturned, its disruptive and takes posts right out of the algorithm. So all those eyes you guys might have gotten with that momentum you mentioned has been robbed of you no matter what.

Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
2 hours ago
Reply to  Lockleaf

That’s why those AI voice-over recap channels people seem to like for some reason rarely call characters by their names and often use generic descriptions of the premise instead of the title

Gen3 Volt
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Gen3 Volt
2 hours ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

people seem to like for some reason

My best guess is the BOGO Lobotomy Wednesdays at the local hospital chains that’ve become so popular of late.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
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Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
3 hours ago

We put this media out for publications to use. Wait, no not like that! Stop it or I’m telling mom! -BYD Europe

Why does it seem like more and more that everything is being run by twelve year olds?

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
2 hours ago

In China, a lot of work is done by 12 year olds 🙁

Erik Waiss
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Erik Waiss
3 hours ago

Streisand effect, anyone?

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
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Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
3 hours ago
Reply to  Erik Waiss

Maybe it’s on purpose then? Free marketing?

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
3 hours ago

LOL a Chinese company suing for copyright shit

You know how many people want to countersue them? 😛

CampoDF
CampoDF
2 hours ago
Reply to  Dogisbadob

That’s actually a great and hilariously ironic point.

Pupmeow
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Pupmeow
1 hour ago
Reply to  Dogisbadob

If I were in-house legal at The Autopian (you guys hiring or what?), I would be excited to be sued in this situation for that exact reason. I hate lawsuits, but aggressive counterclaims fill me with a perverted, vengeful glee.

Pupmeow
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Pupmeow
1 hour ago
Reply to  Pupmeow

Btw, if my comment doesn’t induce them to make me a lucrative offer, I don’t know what would.

Jay Mcleod
Jay Mcleod
18 minutes ago
Reply to  Pupmeow

It appears that sarcastic gifs to legal threats are all the budget allows for.

Lexiswest
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Lexiswest
3 hours ago

Agreed. How ridiculous.

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