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Here’s How China Builds The Cheapest Cars In The World (Like The Changli)

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In 2020 Mr. Torchinsky bought a small Chinese electric vehicle called the Changli from China. This made him famous there; he is featured in a promotional video, on the company’s Alibaba pages, and in the Chinese news here, here, here, here, and here. Let’s do a deep-dive into the Changli and other vehicles like it.

In China, a vehicle like this is generally categorized as a Low Speed Electric Vehicle (LSEV). As the name implies, this category only covers electric cars. But the LSEV sector originates from gas powered vehicles of the same size and kind. Originally, these vehicles were intended for the elderly, those with disabilities, and for local business in smaller cities and villages.

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Electrification Brought A Boom In LSEVs

The sector was ridiculed quite a lot in China for poor quality, ancient technology, and weird looks. However, things started to change when the sector grabbed the opportunities offered by electrification. Suddenly, powertrains became smaller and more reliable, leaving more space for passengers, more leeway to add luxuries, and more freedom of design.

This change started early, long before carmakers began their road to electrification. The earliest LSEVs appeared in the early 2000s. For a while, most manufacturers produced a mix of electric and gasoline powered cars, but nowadays the vast majority is EV-only. 

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LSEV isn’t strictly defined, though an often-used definition is: LSEV mainly refers to three- and four-wheeled electric vehicles with low driving speed; short driving range; and technological simplicity, specifically when it comes to batteries and motors. Maximum speed is 70-80km/h, but most LSEVs are way slower.  

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Gasoline powered mini cars. Photos by me.

With electrification, the cars became more attractive for a wider audience. Families and even young professionals started to get interested, considering the LSEV as an alternative to an electric scooter or 3-wheeler. At the same time, China’s home-delivery secor started its app-fuelled boom, which, combined with stricter emissions regulations in big cities, led to an increasing demand for small electric delivery vehicles.

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Early LSEVs. On the left a four-door sedan inspired by the Daewoo Matiz. On the right an open-cabin delivery vehicle. Photos by me.

Gold on the horizon! As always, the manufacturers responded quickly, adding, in no time, dozens and dozens of new body styles, designs, and specialty vehicles. They were greatly aided by the relative simplicity of an EV platform compared to an ICE platform. The small electric motor can be fitted front, middle, or rear, depending where you want it. That done, you can basically add any body on top. Originally, the gasoline cars looked like odd little hatchback wagons, and there wasn’t much variation. Now, with booming demand and the EV platform, the number of variants has exploded. 

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LSEV to the races. Via CarNewsChina.com.

Suddenly, there were 4-wheel sedans, SUV-style cars, three or four-wheel pickup trucks with a single or a double cab, sports cars, convertibles, long-wheelbase tourism cars, off-road cars, small trucks, smaller trucks, tiny trucks, and so much more. The variation is endless and utterly fascinating. For a while, it seemed the boom would never end. 

How many LSEVs roam the Chinese roads is anybody’s guess. In 2020, a government report estimated the number at 10 million plus, but I think that’s on the very low side. The same report counted about 100 manufacturers with an annual production capacity of 2 million vehicles. The latter seems about right, the former way too low. 

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The Feds Have Been Trying To Regulate LSEVs, Cities Do Dog-And-Pony Shows To Avoid It

But for a while, there have been some dark clouds on the horizon. Happily, those clouds don’t ever get much closer but they are there, constantly threatening the sector. The clouds are of the regulatory kind. For many years, the central Chinese government in Beijing has tried to rule in the somewhat lawless sector, citing safety and congestion reasons. But in China, the responsibility of regulating LSEV cars, and also scooters and bicycles, lies with local city governments. And they have less interest in bothering the sector, fearing that would antagonize business and consumers alike. And any ban would hurt the cities themself as well, as local governments use LSEVs for all kinds of official duties, from policing to collecting garbage. 

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A vague compromise exists, whereby cities crack down on LSEVs now and then, in highly publicized police actions, to satisfy demands from higher above. But after a few weeks, everything goes back to normal. Also, when there is a large gathering in a city, LSEVs are sometimes temporarily banned from the streets until the gathering is over. 

So for now the sector seems safe albeit in an unbalanced manner. Perhaps it would be better for all when there was some form of national regulation for LSEVs. It would make the companies and owners safer from government crackdowns, and it would help the government reach its goals on road safety and against congestion. But none of that is likely to happen anytime soon.

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At any provincial LSEV show, there are at least a hundred manufacturers present; I estimate the total closer to 1,000. But I guess it depends on if you count only officially registered manufacturers or every shed that turns out a few dozen cars per year.   

Safety Concerns

Safety is a real problem. Every day there are stories of nasty accidents with LSEVs in the Chinese media. I once saw a 3-wheel car tipping over in Beijing when it went through a corner. Numbers on traffic deaths are hard to find in China. The most recent report I could find was a 2018 government publication citing 830,000 accidents resulting in 18,000 deaths and 186,000 injuries from 2013 to 2018. 

A connected problem is insurance. Due to the legal uncertainty, most insurance companies refuse to insure LSEVs. This, however, doesn’t really hurt sales, as most Chinese consumers wouldn’t even insure their car if they didn’t have to. And LSEVs are cheap, so one may calculate that buying a new one is cheaper than paying insurance.

At this moment, as they are regulated at a local level, rules for LSEVs may differ per city, village, and even per city district. In Beijing for example, where I lived for many years, LSEVs are generally not allowed within the Fifth Ring Road. In the past, they were allowed basically everywhere. But there are still exceptions for elderly, those with disabilities, and delivery services. 

 

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Copyright issues

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Not a Jimny but a Dayangchok G. Via manufacturer.

 

The fact that many LSEV makers borrowed design elements from foreign brands is well-documented by now, so I’ll leave that with the Dayangchok G, which looks a little bit too much like a Suzuki Jimny. But there are more, of course. Since Chinese car design has become more original in recent years, LSEV makers have started to copy Chinese brands. One might call that a positive development: Chinese design is finally good enough for those critical LSEV folks. So instead of copying a Suzuki Jimny they’ve gone to copying Hongqi’s and ORA’s. 

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Mostly it is just the grille, though sometimes they copy the entire front, and sometimes the entire look and feel of a car. It is pretty smart work. Copying a car into a smaller scale isn’t that easy, and the detailing is impressive. For example, the odd triangular shapes in the bumper of the Cyberster clone are a 1:1 copy of the original. 

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But happily, not all design is copy-cat. Some LSEV makers really try to be original. That doesn’t always work, but to try is better than not to try. Right?

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These are just four examples, but they show the many different directions LSEV design is going: from a streamlined one-seater to an experimental four seater to a long-wheelbase triple-cabin pickup truck to a “cute” car likely designed for ladies. It is all happening, and I truly believe that one day one of these LSEV designers will come up with something beautiful.

[Editor’s note: That fake Mercedes on the top right is epic! Also, as a reader wanted me to make clear, technically these vehicles aren’t infringing upon “copyrights” — this is an issue of trade dress/trademarks/IP.  -DT]

Changli

Now to Mr. Torchinsky’s car. “Changli”  is the brand name. The full name of the company is Changzhou Changli Vehicle Factory. As with so many Chinese manufacturers, the city where the company is based is part of the name. In this case that is Changzhou, a city of some 5.2 million in China’s Jiangsu Province, about 125 miles up the Yangtze river from Shanghai. The brand name refers to Changzhou City, too. Changli = 常力. Changzhou = 常州. The character 力 means force, power, or strength, depending on context. So the best translation of the Changli name would be “Chang(zhou) Power.”

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Main gate and main building. Via Baidu maps.

The Changzhou Changli Vehicle Factory recently opened a new factory, located in an industrial area in the far south of the city. The old factory was much closer to the center, but I guess there wasn’t enough space to expand there, and the building was really old. Check it out:

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Old factory. Via Baidu maps.

The Changzhou Changli Vehicle Factory is a subsidiary of a larger privately held company, called Changzhou Xili Vehicle Industry Co., Ltd. Confusingly, the Xili part of the name (喜力) is also the Chinese brand name of Dutch beer maker Heineken. Fortunately, not that many folks will confuse a small electric car for a bottle of delicious Dutch brew.

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Various certificates. Via Changli.

Changzhou Changli was founded in 1996 by a Mr. Yang Baocheng (杨保成). In the early days, the company only made tricycles. Later on, it added scooters and four-wheel cars to its fast-expanding lineup. The company’s main factory is in Changzhou, but it also operates factories in Chengdu, capital of Sichuan Province, and in the Tianjin Municipality. Changli operated a dealer and service network throughout China. According to the company’s website, it exports vehicles to countries and regions like Thailand, India, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia and the Middle East. And, as we know, at least a few went to the United States.

The company proudly talks about the many official certificates, titles, and honors it received from local governments and various branche organizations. These titles are not a necessity but they may make life easier when it comes to dealing with the government, for example for securing permits. Changzhou Changli holds, among many others, the titles for “Changzhou Well-known Trademark” and “Changzhou Private Technology Enterprise.” It is also a member of the “Jiangsu Bicycle Association.” The certificates are displayed on the website, with photographs showing the physical documents. This is a very common practice in China, especially among small and medium-sized companies. 

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In China, celebrity endorsements are very common among every kind of company, large and small. The selected celebrities are mostly Chinese but some are foreign. BAIC once had Nick Cage. Since 2017, Changli has an endorsement deal with Hong Kong actor Li Zixong (李子雄, Lee Chi Hung in Cantonese, Waise Lee in English). Images of Li, complete with his signature, are all over Changli’s website and shop. Li may be relatively unknown outside of China, but he is a famous fellow. Born in 1959, he starred in more than 100 movies. He is currently married to Chinese actress Wang Yaqi (王雅琦), who was born in 1982 and became famous after graduating from the People’s Liberation Army Academy of Arts.  

Tricycle paradise. Via Changli.

Changli isn’t a very large company, not even by LSEV standards, where companies tend to be small compared to normal carmakers. Changli claims to employ 50 “senior technical personnel”  and a total of some 200 employees. The company’s main product line is still the tricycle. The four wheeled cars are a secondary business. The tricycles come in all forms — roofed, without roof, box truck, flatbed, and many specialty vehicles. 

I counted about 100 different cars, but the company’s Alibaba pages show even more. Besides those, Changli makes about a dozen four-wheel electric vehicles, two-dozen electric scooters, and two-dozen tricycles for the elderly. It’s a massive number of vehicles! Mr. Torchinsky’s Changli is no longer displayed on Changli’s official Chinese website. However, it is still shown on Changli’s English website and a listing in the company’s Alibaba shop, where the car sells for a cool $930. 

Let’s have a quick look at some of Changli’s coolest four-wheel machines. Interestingly, the names of these cars differ depending on if you look at the company’s English or Chinese pages, and I don’t mean the obvious language difference. On the English pages, the cars only have their sales catalog names, with Mr. Torchinsky’s car being the CLZKC-002. That’s boring. Happily, the names on the Chinese site are much better. Jason’s car is named the “Freeman.”

Left: the Changli Raptor Third Generation, four doors with Ford-inspired looks. Right: the Changli Gallop Second Generation, a double cab pickup truck with BMW kidneys.
Left: the Changli Haval, kindly named after the Great Wall Motors Haval brand, the characters are exactly the same (哈弗). Right: the Changli Pathfinder, seen in France.

All lovely little cars, and in China, none cost more than $1,200. So for just a few grand you can have a huge Changli LSEV collection.

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The Way The Business Of Chinese LSEV-Production Works 

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A typical assembly hall. Photo by the manufacturer.

One may wonder how a company with some 200 folks can make so many vehicles. Well, that’s because they don’t really make them. The LSEV manufacturing situation is somewhat comparable with gasoline car manufacturing in the 1990’s, like with the Cherokee XJ clones: A few larger car makers supplied platforms and engines to numerous smaller automakers, who assembled their own cars on top of that. With LSEVs it goes a step further, as smaller producers buy entire bodies, platforms, motors, and everything else from other manufacturers. 

So most of these LSEV makers are actually mere LSEV assemblers. This means that the entry bar for the LSEV business is pretty low. At any moment, there are thousands of LSEV companies active, selling under tens of thousands of brands, sub-brands, and series. Companies start, go bankrupt, resurface, take over, merge, or simply disappear at a dizzying pace. This makes it great fun to follow, but it’s also just a frustrating marketplace — a company you did business with yesterday may be gone tomorrow, or have a different name, or belong to another business, or maybe it moved to another town. Happily, some companies live longer than others, and Changzhou Changli Vehicle Factory is one of those survivors. 

The Body Builders

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Sign seen at an LSEV conference. Photo by me. The Chinese text literally means ‘Vehicle bodies (and) spare parts for sale’.

China has an endless number of body and part makers. For the LSEV industry, many are located in Shandong Province. Shandong is somewhat of a LSEV hotbed; many manufacturers are based there too, and once a year there is, or was, a fantastic LSEV show in the capital Jinan. 

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DIY: need a dashboard, or an axle, or leaf springs? China’s LSEV parts market has you covered. Photos by me.
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LSEV bodies on sale. Image via QQ.

LSEV bodies are made of sheet metal (steel?) or plastic. The bodies are quite rough and often offered for sale out in the open on LSEV markets. Hopefully it won’t rain. Some LSEVs have plastic doors and body panels, others are made of plastic entirely. Like with everything in this business, there is huge variation.

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LSEV body sunbathing. Photo by me.

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Fresh from the factory, seen in the background.This is a sheet metal body shell for a four-door four-wheel car. Pics via a manufacturer based in Jining City, Shandong Province. 

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The bodies are welded together by hand. (Well, if it were a Rolls-Royce, we’d all praise the handmade traditions, wouldn’t we!). The whole thing is made so ready that it’s easy for the LSEV makers/assemblers to finish. It’s got all the holes in the right places, and present are the battery box that doubles as the base for the front seat, the bench for the rear seats, the doors, and the window frames. 

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This car shown has four doors and wheels too, but its design is of the modern sort. The “production line” is really a work station, where the body is welded and hammered together. (images via a manufacturer based in Dezhou City, Shandong Province). With suppliers like the ones offering the panels shown here, everyone can be an LSEV maker, and in a way, everybody is — especially down in Shandong.

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Now let’s have a look at power. According to Changli’s specifications, Mr. Torchinsky’s car is powered by a motor with “Maximum Power(Ps): ≤100Ps Maximum Torque(Nm): ≤100 Nm”. That is totally true and at the same time totally useless information. Chinese sellers are often vague like this, afraid perhaps to scare good-willing customers away.

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Spec sheet via Changli.

Changli’s Chinese site has more technical data, but not on Mr. Torchinsky’s car, as it isn’t on the site, and the pic on the English site goes to Alibaba. However, the vehicle closest in kind and size is the Changli New Freedom Light 2017 Style (常力新自由光2017款). This fine little machine is powered by an 48V or 60V 800 watt (1.1 horsepower) electric motor, powering the rear wheels. Other Changli cars have a similar output. 

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These little motors are very easy to get in China, with prices starting around 250 yuan (about $40). A typical example is the Nanyou 800W40, selling for 300 yuan. It’s a 48V motor with max output of 800W. Claimed power is 19 Nm. The motor unit is only 13.4 centimeters wide and comes with an 85 cm cable.

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The sheer number of offerings is mind boggling. And every motor is available in many variants and sub-variants. For example, this is the Xixiangxi AA#384277923901. There are 24 base variants. Click on any model and you’ll get yet more choices. They’ve all got slightly different specifications. How does anyone make sense of this..? Prices start around 375 yuan (about $56).

This is how the electric motor is installed on a Changli tricycle. Bang on the rear axle, just like on Jason’s Changli!

Take your pick: celebrity endorsed lead-acid (left) or lithium-ion.

So now we have a body and a motor. All we need is a battery. Batteries are the priciest part of any electric vehicle, and that goes for LSEVs as well. Until just a few years ago, all LSEV makers used old-school lead-acid units. Many still do, but they usually offer lithium-ion batteries as well, especially on higher-end vehicles. China being China, there are trillions of battery making companies, and many have their own celebrity endorsements. 

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The lead-acid batteries are super cheap. An example is this Tianneng 60V20AH (left), selling from 238 yuan ($36). They can be wired together for more output. In Beijing I had an electric scooter with five lead-acid batteries, it did 50 km/h and about 70 km of range. Lithium-ion batteries are incredibly cheap nowadays, however, they still cost way more than a basic lead-acid battery. The example on the right is a Weike 48V72V60, with a base price of 2300 yuan (~$350).

Weike’s sales team says hello. Hello!

So we got the basics done: body, motor, and battery. All we need is some small stuff to finish the job.

Checklist: fan, dashboard, radio with horn, mirrors, grille with lights, interior door trim, and some fancy door handles. Add it all up and we got:

A beautiful LSEV tricycle! (It’s actually a Longqi).

And that is the end of this story, for now. Hopefully, when Covid goes away, I can go to some LSEV shows again and tell you all about it. In the meantime, let’s hope Mr Torchinsky’s Changli keeps running as fine as it does today. 

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Terms

低速电动车 Dīsù diàndòng chē Low speed electric vehicle
老头乐汽车 Lǎotóu lè qìchē A term for a category of small vehicles aimed at the elderly (lit: old man happy car). ICE or EV.
常力 Chánglì Changli
常州 Chángzhōu Changzhou
电动车 Diàndòng chē Electric car (lit: electric moving car).
常州市常力车辆厂 Chángzhōu shì cháng lì chēliàng chǎng Changzhou Changli Vehicle Factory
常州市喜力车业有限公司 Chángzhōu shì xǐ lì chē yè yǒuxiàn gōngsī Changzhou Xili Vehicle Industry Co., Ltd.
喜力 Xǐ lì  Heineken
喜力啤酒 Xǐ lì píjiǔ Heineken Beer
老年休闲电动三轮车 Lǎonián xiūxián diàndòng sānlúnchē  Elderly leisure electric tricycle
电动四轮轿车 Diàndòng sì lún jiàochē Electric four-wheeled sedan. Term to describe four-wheel LSEVs. 

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Gestalty Bitch
Gestalty Bitch
1 year ago

Whatever that little green thing is up there, I want it.

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
1 year ago

Interesting. I always figured that if the Chinese government wanted to ban or restrict something, they just sent in the clone army to round up and exterminate them all, Order 66 style. Never figured anywhere in China to be anything akin to “lawless”.

Rabob Rabob
Rabob Rabob
1 year ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

China is such a weird mix of libertarian free-for-all and authoritarian government. It’s impossible to wrap your head around.

Der Foo
Der Foo
1 year ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

I’m sure a steady inflow of Yuan to the local ‘officials’ and in turn favors to the central government is keeping the ghosts of Mao suppressed.

Electrified05ViggenFeverDream
Electrified05ViggenFeverDream
1 year ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

For anyone, including the OP, who might be unaware, this statement is an example of Yellow Perilism, and specifically the “asiatic horde” trope. In this trope, Asians (more specifically, East Asians, and usually referring to Chinese or North Koreans these days) are viewed as automatons (“clone army”) that place little to no value on human life (“exterminate them all”). This is an extension of 19th and 20th century racist propaganda that cast East Asians as mindless insects, part of a broad hive mind and incapable of thinking for themselves, which simultaneously dismissed, infantalized, and devalued the individual while stoking anti-Asian sentiment. That racial animus was propelled to new heights during the red scares and imperialist movements of the 20th century, and has found new life with the emergence of Covid-19.

I mention this because whenever China comes up, there is often a kneejerk reaction by Western audiences to dismiss whatever is being talked about instead of grappling with the cultural and structural differences between us. I’m always glad to see articles like this, that explore the depth of a super cool automotive phenomenon without falling into xenophobia. For better or worse, China is rapidly developing a massive car culture and there’s going to be tons of cool stuff coming out of it–I just hope that we keep seeing awesome articles like this that respectfully and thoughtfully introduce the rest of us to it!

Frankencamry
Frankencamry
1 year ago

With so much component availability, is there any savings to be had in assembling one’s own LSEV, or is that a passion project due to economies of scale?

Detroit-Lightning
Detroit-Lightning
1 year ago

The Changli Raptor is the Raptor for the people.

JohnTaurus
JohnTaurus
1 year ago

It looks way more like a current Chevy HD truck in the front than a Ford. I actually like the look.

Ben
Ben
1 year ago
Reply to  JohnTaurus

Oh, see, I was with you right up until that last sentence. Why did they choose to rip off the ugliest truck being built today? 😛

The Toecutter
The Toecutter
1 year ago

My custom microcar would be right at home there. It’s every bit as much a bicycle as it is a car, and functional as either. Pics of it in my profile.

I have parts in my possession to make it reach 100+ mph when using the motor, but I haven’t had the time to install them. I’m working on a new body to get the drag so slippery, I’ll be able to turn the motor completely off and reach 45+ mph pedaling it in a sprint on flat ground.

I noticed that these Chinese microcars have their aerodynamics as an afterthought. If they were truly streamlined, range and performance would increase dramatically, for little to no added cost. I get a 150-200 mile range on a battery pack of lesser capacity than what these LSEVs have. I’d love to show them how to build a one-seater that can get 200+ miles range on $35 of batteries!

I don’t know what kind of reliability these cars have, but my build lasted more than 65,000 miles without any major problems. A steering spindle failed at 40 mph from a pothole around that time, but I’ve since replaced it. I need to redesign the spindle, especially if I’m going to make this thing capable of highway speeds.

Current weight? 91 lbs ready to ride.

D.B. Platypus
D.B. Platypus
1 year ago
Reply to  The Toecutter

Your build looks really awesome. Thanks for the pictures!

I think the challenge is aerodynamics vs. comfort. A typical elderly person who needs mobility around town is going to want a fully enclosed cabin, easy entry, and good visibility. These demands necessitate a very upright, high-profile vehicle shape, which is bad for aerodynamics. I guess maybe some efficiency gains could be had by making the body more rounded and thinner. But at low speeds, how much would it really help?

Raj S
Raj S
1 year ago
Reply to  The Toecutter

Hmm…I’m actually unsure how important aerodynamics are here. It’s a low speed vehicle after all, and drag coefficients only start to really matter above say 35 mph or so, which a changli or other LSEV would very rarely (if never) achieve.
A good description of how drag is influenced by velocity (I believe it’s D~V^2 in proportionality)
https://hackaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/autodrag-graph-recreationB-1-themed.png

The Toecutter
The Toecutter
1 year ago
Reply to  Raj S

The rule of thumb of aerodynamics only mattering above 35 mph is true of vehicles as heavy as standard sedans, trucks, and SUVs. For a vehicle more comparable to a motorcycle or even bicycle in mass, the effects of rolling resistance due to greatly decreased mass are lessened, therefore making aerodynamic drag a larger percentage of the overall load, even at speeds as low as 15-20 mph.

If I take the body shell off of my microcar, range drops from 150-200 miles down to 50-80 miles @ 30-35 mph cruising speeds. With the body on and the motor disabled, I can propel it to 35 mph in a sprint with nothing but my own legs and hold 22-23 mph on flat ground, but if I remove the body, that top speed under pedal-only drops to about 26-27 mph, cruising speed drops to 14 mph, including powering through the motor’s cogging losses. The body has cut drag by about 2/3 over not having it, and the effects are significant. That body is far from optimized. The outboard wheels are HORRIBLE for drag. There is potential to cut the drag to about 1/4 what it currently is while increasing practicality.

I’m certain a comfortable upright enclosed version for an elderly person that is easy to step into and out of could be designed with a Cd in the low 0.2 range and a frontal area in the sub 0.7 m^2 range. And versus what the Changli does, it is possible to triple or even quadruple range for the same battery.

But why only make microcar LSEVs only for the elderly? Why not make a “hypercar” version of such? My vision is to eventually build the following, which will meet the criteria for a LSEV in everything except for being low speed:

-a microcar the size and shape of a velomobile. Cd in the 0.11 area, frontal area in the 0.5 m^2 range, ground clearance of ~5.5″, height ~1m, width ~900mm
-glass fiber or carbon fiber monocoque with integrated safety cell and roll structure
-fully enclosed
-switched reluctance hub motor in each wheel for all wheel drive(AMZ technologies made a prototype 7 lb motor that could make 58 horsepower peak) with a high power density FOC electric skateboard controller for each motor
-2 kWh battery pack
-16×1.4″ DOT rims with solar race car tires

I think it is possible to make such a thing weigh 100-120 lbs, provide all the convenience of a car except for being limited to only one person, and have 150-200 horsepower peak. Because of its low mass, you’d only want the wheel size/motor/controller/battery to allow a top speed around 120 mph, if you can get sufficient stability and avoid lift at that speed, and it may even be as low as 90 mph depending upon the stability issues encountered at speed. You want to avoid a high downforce design in the interest of keeping drag slippery as hell, otherwise range will be crap.

Anyhow, lets say such a thing is set up to top out at 120 mph and remain stable at that speed.

You’d end up with a single-seater microcar that could do 0-120 mph in around 4.5 seconds, and pass the 1/4 mile somewhere in the upper 8 second range, reaching top speed hundreds of feet before the 1/8 mile mark.

AND it would cost next to nothing to run. Range at a steady 70 mph could be ~100-120 miles on a dirt cheap battery pack. You’d be able to hold 100 mph on about 4 horsepower and 60 mph on a bit over 1 horsepower. You could even cover it in solar panels, perhaps only 300-400W worth, and in direct sunlight, be able to cruise @ 35-40 mph all day long without drawing down the battery.

Best of all, the EV components for such a thing are mostly inexpensive and available at the hobbyist level for ebikes. The only thing that is not available off the shelf is the necessary motor, but everything else would only be a few thousand dollars. Such a vehicle mass produced would cost as much as a decent scooter or moped, although there would be a market case for it even hand built in the upper five-figures due to the performance that could be offered.

MikeInTheWoods
MikeInTheWoods
1 year ago
Reply to  The Toecutter

Well as a bicycle mechanic and car lover I’m very interested to see this microcar. I looked into a velomobile at one point but for $15,000 I said no way. Also, it was so low I’d be run over by all the pickup trucks where I live.

KA467
KA467
1 year ago

I think the name of Jason’s car is actually the Changli Renegade, as the car’s name is 自由侠 is how the (Jeep) Renegade’s name is spelt in China. This is seemingly backed up when you look at the names of some other Changli models.

Changli 吉普两门 (“Jeep 2-door”)
http://www.cnchangli.com/html/1598716577.php

And the Changli 自由光2017款 (“Cheeroke”)
http://www.cnchangli.com/html/1492341769.php

Ron888
Ron888
1 year ago

Loving the chinese content guys! Well done

pip bip
pip bip
1 year ago

whilst Lynk & Co don’t do EV, they leave that to their other brand Zeekr.

TheCrank
TheCrank
1 year ago

The IP issues you are referring to are not copyright issues, but trademark and trade dress related (also maybe some design patents). But, importantly, if you and the other writers are going to discuss IP matters, please understand the differences between copyright, trademark/trade dress, and patents. They are all different things and the terms are not interchangeable.

David Tracy
David Tracy
1 year ago
Reply to  TheCrank

I left it because I saw the term as more of a stylistic choice. The section isn’t actually about any sort of literal trade dress-related legal cases, it’s just a mention that there’s a lot of willy-nilly copying going on in China — an idea that can be communicated with a heading “copyright,” even if that’s clearly not technically the term for what’s happening.

But I’m fallible; maybe that was the wrong call; I’ll slap an ed note in for good measure. In any case, it’s not an issue of writers not knowing — We’ve probably all pored over stacks of trade dress-related legal documents (I know I have — see Mahindra/Jeep coverage).

TheCrank
TheCrank
1 year ago
Reply to  David Tracy

It’s only stylistic if you consider it appropriate to refer to all engines as a V8. Which is to say, it’s not at all. You would never refer to an inline 6 as a V8 because it’s wrong and confusing. It’s the same when specific IP terminology is misused. The catch-all generic term is Intellectual Property and it refers to copyright, trademark, trade dress, patent, etc. Just like engine can refer to V8s, I6s, 4 cylinders, 2 strokes, rotaries, etc.

Philip Dunlop
Philip Dunlop
1 year ago

Great article, as usual. I do have one critique, and that is in the use of the word “handicapped” (multiple times).

https://adata.org/factsheet/ADANN-writing

WhoDey Buckeye
WhoDey Buckeye
1 year ago

“Mr. Torchinsky” sounds so formal compared to just Jason ot Torch. It is great to see him getting the respect he deserves now that he is moving up in the world.

Overall a great and well researched article.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
1 year ago

oooo a 4-door Changli!!!!!!

WarioKart
WarioKart
1 year ago

What would it take for a GM or Honda to build a $7500 EV city car with a top speed of 70 mph and range of 70-80 miles? I realize it is going to take a lot to meet NHTSA safety standards on such a vehicle, but if you got the cost down below $10,000-$12,000, it would be free for consumers in many states when you combine the $7500 federal credit with state credits. I feel like those would be easy to sell?

And why are the EVs that are available in America so big and so expensive? I don’t want a big car. I don’t need an SUV or a truck or a crossover, and I don’t need a Tesla. I don’t need a 300 mile range or 0-60 in 3 seconds. I just want something with two seats that is affordable and reasonably safe that can get me to work and back without using gasoline.

Rabob Rabob
Rabob Rabob
1 year ago
Reply to  WarioKart

You could buy a used Nissan Leaf

D.B. Platypus
D.B. Platypus
1 year ago

“BAIC once had John Cage.”

I’m kind of disappointed that this turned out to be an error.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
1 year ago
Reply to  D.B. Platypus

I am applauding your comment quietly.

Dusty Hornblower
Dusty Hornblower
1 year ago

Good article and I actually went to the Alibaba site to look at the car for sale. In the listing the interior color choice is one and noted as ‘dark’. Well that might be poor translation I think it speaks well to one of the problems we have with the car market today. There are so many choices and so many options surely that must drive up price even for those vehicles not optioned with all the fancy bits. Just look at the 1990s and German vehicles. You had essentially the same sausage recipe just three different sizes. Maybe we just need less choice?

JohnTaurus
JohnTaurus
1 year ago

Ford made one interior color standard on all Maverick models, just with different trim per trim level. People coming from more expensive vehicles complain “what if I want black! Or tan!”. Then go buy a $33k Ranger/Colorado/Taco and have your pick!

Point being, it would be a point of contention more often than not, unfortunately. People want everything their way, standard, for the entry level price when it comes to cheap, desirable vehicles. They don’t get it, the more choices and options baked in affects the price across the line.

Oh they want a cheap truck alright, they just want a fully-optioned F-150 Platinum for $19,995 + rebates that somehow still gets 40 MPG when loaded with moon rock and towing a tiny home.

gettstoney
gettstoney
1 year ago

This article once again proves to me that it is impossible to multi-task and read this site at the same time. Sometimes I get distracted and have to start a whole section over like I’m a stoned junior in high school flipping through an 8-page diner menu.
The content here is so quality.

Tommy Helios
Tommy Helios
1 year ago

So there has to be a way we can get JT to be the official international mascot of changli right? Can we start a petition? It is probably going to be an unpaid internship and will make some question his ability to stay neutral in the world of car journalism but it is now the thing I didn’t know I needed but desperately do.

Steve P
Steve P
1 year ago
Reply to  Tommy Helios

Someone needs to draw him as an anime character.

The Toecutter
The Toecutter
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve P

I could do it, but I don’t even have a scanner to upload it.

Jason Mason
Jason Mason
1 year ago
Reply to  The Toecutter

Use your phone to capture & upload the scan – either take a pic or use any of the free scanner apps that are available!

The Toecutter
The Toecutter
1 year ago
Reply to  Jason Mason

I don’t own a smart phone either!

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve P

and pole dancing.

Vetatur Fumare
Vetatur Fumare
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve P

He would look awesome decorating the side of an LSEV, with Chinese characters shooting out of his behind.

CSRoad
CSRoad
1 year ago

A good read, thanks.

It brings back time when there was far more automotive freedom in the parts of the world that I once knew.
From English “special” sports cars to American hot rods to the VW platform based Meyer’s Manx buggies, clones and kit cars.
Driving has become a lot safer in the UK, Europe and North America, something has been lost along the way.

It sounds like some minor way a sort of Autopia can still exist in the rather confusing country of China.

FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
1 year ago

That Bugatti Chiron LSEV is too fucking good, I want one! I would rock that thing all day long, it’s just the best.

Gilbert Wham
Gilbert Wham
1 year ago
Reply to  FUCK YOU

I need a hobbit Audi and a tank 300 Cyberster, I think.

Howard Rieter
Howard Rieter
1 year ago
Reply to  Gilbert Wham

I am with you

Ben
Ben
1 year ago
Reply to  FUCK YOU

I was trying to figure out which one I would buy, but then I realized they’re tiny and cheap so I can get one of each!

Howard Rieter
Howard Rieter
1 year ago
Reply to  Ben

Maybe they can be available in a value pack!

Citrus
Citrus
1 year ago

The Dayangchok G., the official car of the world’s tiniest man.

Erik Hancock
Erik Hancock
1 year ago

This article was a tour-de-force of alternate spellings of Mr. Torquezinski’s name.

Jason Torchinsky
Jason Torchinsky
1 year ago
Reply to  Erik Hancock

I fixed them. David, to his credit, edited this and was all “fuck it,” so thanks for that, DT

Erik Hancock
Erik Hancock
1 year ago

Figures, coming from a guy who probably never gets his name misspelled. Typical. (Typo-cal? Sorry, I’ll leave now.)

skim172
skim172
1 year ago
Reply to  Erik Hancock

How typical of Dave Traci.

JohnTaurus
JohnTaurus
1 year ago
Reply to  skim172

How is Davis Tracer these days?

Gestalty Bitch
Gestalty Bitch
1 year ago
Reply to  JohnTaurus

Is he related to Dan Tracker?

J Smith
J Smith
1 year ago

That was really interesting to read. Thanks!

John Boyd
John Boyd
1 year ago

Awesome article! I love reading about the nuances of car culture in other countries.

Lew Schiller
Lew Schiller
1 year ago

Excellent Article!
Thanks

Chris Savino
Chris Savino
1 year ago

Stripper pole at the electric car dealer?

J Smith
J Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  Chris Savino

Well, where else would you expect it to be?

Flatisflat
Flatisflat
1 year ago
Reply to  Chris Savino

I would just like to point out that nothing about that woman’s entire ensemble resembles anything remotely related to “jeans”, no matter if her strap lattices are advertising otherwise!

InWayOverMyHead
InWayOverMyHead
1 year ago
Reply to  Chris Savino

She’s stripping in your version? I gotta pay for the premium package.

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