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Baseball, Hot Dogs, Apple Pie, And 1994 Chevy Cavalier vs 2012 Chevy Captiva

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Welcome to another edition of Shitbox Showdown! We’re doing one make per day this week, and since we started out with Ford, it’s only fair that we give Chevrolet its turn. We’ve got a drop-top version of a once-common everyman’s car, and a modern crossover that I actually don’t know much about.

Yesterday’s make was Honda, and it was one of those matchups where I knew going in which one would win. Sometimes, I pick a car just to feed it to the wolves, and that Civic yesterday was a prime example. I really like the Civic of that era, but that one is not a good example. I don’t think the auction paperwork in lieu of a title is a huge deal in Washington State, but it’s about double the price it ought to be.

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That Accord, on the other hand, is just about an ideal cheap used car. It’s known to be reliable, it has been cared for by the same family its whole life, and its only obvious flaws are cosmetic. You could probably get another hundred thousand miles out of that car without too much trouble.

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Chevrolet has been a part of the American landscape since 1911, and it’s hard to think of a more quintessentially American car brand. And whether you love Chevys, hate them, or don’t care about them one way or the other, you can’t avoid them. I imagine it would be difficult to find a parking lot anywhere in this country that didn’t have at least one Chevy in it. Have they all been brilliant cars? Well, no, of course not. Have they all been memorable? Nope, can’t say that either. But I can say with some confidence that just about everyone who pays attention to cars has a story about a Chevy. I know I have many. Let’s see what story these two have to tell.

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1994 Chevrolet Cavalier Z24 Convertible – $1,500

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Engine/drivetrain: 3.1-liter overhead valve V6, three-speed automatic, FWD

Location: State College, PA

Odometer reading: 127,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

Yes, I’m making you look at another J-body. It’s been a while, and I thought this one was worth checking out, especially for the price. This is a post-facelift second-generation Cavalier Z24 convertible, the fanciest and most expensive Cavalier you could get in 1994. Though admittedly, that’s not unlike the fanciest and most expensive item on Taco Bell’s menu; it’s all pretty much the same stuff, just arranged differently.

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To create the Z24, Chevy resorted to the tried-and-true method of factory hot-rodding: put the bigger engine in the smaller car, give it bigger wheels and a spoiler, and sell it for more money. The Z24’s drivetrain – a 3.1 liter V6 backed by a TH125C automatic – was Chevy’s version of Frank’s Red Hot sauce; they put that shit in everything. You could find the exact same engine under the hoods of everything from sporty coupes to family sedans to minivans in 1994. It’s not exciting, but it has proved pretty reliable over the years.

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I always really liked the white seats available in the Cavalier and Pontiac Sunbird convertibles of this era. I imagine they’re a pain to keep clean, but they sure do look sharp, and they’re comfortable, too. This one looks well-maintained inside, especially for 127,000 miles. The convertible top needs a little attention, though; it goes up and down, but it’s a little stiff and moves slowly. Some careful application of spray lithium grease on the pivot points should put it right.

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The good news is the top is nice and watertight when it’s up, so there’s no need to replace it, which is always a worry with cheap convertibles. The paint is faded, but it isn’t rusty, or at least not obviously. It’s a Pennsylvania car, though, so it’s worth a peek underneath to make sure the floors are still there.

2012 Chevrolet Captiva Sport – $2,500

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Image: Craigslist seller

Engine/drivetrain: 2.4-liter dual overhead cam inline 4, six-speed automatic, FWD

Location: Port St. Lucie, FL

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Odometer reading: 170,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

We all know that as you age, you stop caring about the current pop music. You’re still aware of current hits, but they just don’t mean as much to you as the stuff that was on the radio when you were younger. As it turns out, cars are the same way. That Cavalier above is well-known to me, and I have fond memories of cars like it. The Chevy Captiva, however, I had completely forgotten existed until I saw this one for sale. I probably see them all the time, but they’re just too new to notice.

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This car was better known as the second-generation Saturn Vue here in the US, and as the Opel/Vauxhall Antara in Europe and the UK. If I’m understanding it right, the Captiva was only available here to fleet customers, meaning this car was probably originally a rental. It features pretty typical GM running gear for the time: a 2.4-liter Ecotec four-cylinder engine and a six-speed automatic. The seller isn’t specific about its mechanical condition, other than to note that it has “ice cold A/C,” but they couldn’t know that if it wasn’t running and driving, right?

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It sure looks like a rental car inside: straightforward and forgettable. You don’t want a fleet car of any sort to be confusing to operate; the whole point is that anyone can hop in and drive off. This Captiva has covered 170,000 miles, with who knows how many people behind the wheel, and it still looks pretty good. I guess GM stepped up its interior quality game a bit after the bankruptcy fiasco; the older ones didn’t usually hold up this well.

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Outside, it’s another bland crossover, but at least it’s not gray. I can see why cars of this style have become popular; it does look very practical. I guess what it took to sell small hatchbacks in America was to just make them taller. The ad says it has “normal wear and tear,” but honestly, I don’t see anything wrong with it at all in the photos.

So those are your choices for today: a fancy Cavalier and an ex-rental crossover. They were both built for daily use, and they both could still serve that purpose, if you wanted. Granted, one makes more sense, but the other looks like a lot more fun. The choice is yours.

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FrontWillDrive
FrontWillDrive
23 hours ago

I always liked those Cavaliers, in a quiet way, it would fit in with my other cars anyway. It’s somewhat of an easy choice, considering when I took driver’s education we had a fleet of about 10 Saturn Vues of that body style. It was a car – it was fine, not anything noteworthy though and I surely didn’t ever want one. We also had a single Aura with the 3.6 that the instructor usually drove during driving exercises, whenever we had a day where we went out on the road, we usually all clamored for the Aura.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
23 hours ago

I get that you’re making it nearly impossible to not chose the Cavalier, but I’m standing my ground. I will not, under any circumstance, vote for one. Craptiva it is!

My wife’s family owned one of these (exactly this car actually, convertible, same year I believe, red, etc.) about 20 years ago and it was absolute suck. Something to note, that V6 is absolutely jammed in there, I was shocked to see how little space there it to do work. Oddly enough 1/3 of that hood length is basically crash structure, if I recall.

ImissmyoldScout
ImissmyoldScout
23 hours ago

Really could have used a “niether” button today. They both suck. I’m seeing red just trying to pick which is the “least bad” option.

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
23 hours ago

Not to be Cavalier here, but not feeling the Craptiva much at all today….YMMV

LarsVargas
LarsVargas
23 hours ago

We already have a small crossover (Kia Soul) and pickup (Hyundai Santa Cruz) in the fleet, so no need to double up on that. I had a Pontiac Sunbird convertible of similar vintage with the Turbo 2.0 liter a bunch of years back and it was a fun little car.

I would welcome this Cavalier, especially at that price. I might double my investment fixing the boogers and rattles and such, and would be perfectly happy with it.

Trust Doesn't Rust
Trust Doesn't Rust
23 hours ago

My first thought was “of course I’m voting for the Captiva, it was originally sold as a Saturn and that’s where my heart goes. Also, the J-body and its convertible cowl shake can go burn in hell”. However, that Cavalier is in surprisingly good shape and the Captiva, as noted, was probably a rental car.

So yes, you got me to vote for a Cavalier, you bastard.

I also came upon the realization that the dashboard of the second-gen Cavalier looks much more handsome and clean than the melted blob of the third-gen. They’re both shit plastic but somehow the second gen looks more substantial. Is it just me?

Cars? I've owned a few
Cars? I've owned a few
20 hours ago

Yeah. I thought the Cav’s dash bordered on cool. Particularly that era.

Chris Stevenson
Chris Stevenson
20 hours ago

80s GM had a bunch of good interior design ideas. Quality, on the other hand…

World24
World24
23 hours ago

I chose the Captiva because I’m not going to deal with a 3 speed daily, and a Cavalier is not worth paying another $31.50 a month to have a place to park it. But that’s also because I don’t know about that convertible top on the Cavalier. If it’s powered, then that’s an absolute hell no on that Cav from me just on that alone.

I don't hate manual transmissions
I don't hate manual transmissions
23 hours ago

As a former owner of a ’91 Z-24 convertible in electric blue with a white top, I can honestly say I’ve got no interest in owning another one.

About the only thing I’m less interested in owning is a generic GM crossover p.o.s.

So, Cadavalier, damit.

Shop-Teacher
Shop-Teacher
23 hours ago

What the hell, I’ll cruise the Cavy convertible for a summer, and then dump it for probably even money in the fall.

Sasquatch
Sasquatch
23 hours ago

I wouldn’t touch that Cavalier if you paid me. I had a friend with one he got for free and that POS did more to keep him poor than anything. You know the junkyards that “Buy All Cars*”? Guess what car that * is for? Yup, the Cavalier and all her sisters.

I’m not kidding when I say public transit and walking are better options.

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
23 hours ago
Reply to  Sasquatch

Sounds like the free Sebring convertible a friend gave me. Was left outside, top leaked, interior soaked and kept randomly blowing fuses when you tried to start it. I hoped drying it out in my barn for a few months would fix the electrical gremlins, but nope. Never titled or registered it, occasionally drove the kids around the neighborhood for fun and eventually drove it to the neighbor’s junkyard. Stopped to chat with someone on the way and it started overheating. “Sorry, gotta go!”

At least I only invested a package of fuses in it and a little time.

Bruno Ealo
Bruno Ealo
1 day ago

Door pins and bushings fix will fix those heavy doors fast but watch out for the tension spring because without the mini compressor “You’ll shoot your eye out kid”.The Z24 is the easy pick as long it’s not crusty underneath.

FloridaNative
FloridaNative
1 day ago

If I needed a comfortable daily driver, I’d get the Captiva (which I had completely forgotten about until today). But I don’t.

Drew
Drew
1 day ago

I always really liked the white seats available in the Cavalier and Pontiac Sunbird convertibles of this era. I imagine they’re a pain to keep clean, but they sure do look sharp, and they’re comfortable, too.

The white seats don’t just look sharp, they are practical for this application. I’ll never understand why so many convertibles have black interiors. You’re letting the sun bake it even more than with a car with a fixed roof, so having something that reflects back a little more of that solar energy is a win. If this were local, I’d probably own a convertible later today.

I don't hate manual transmissions
I don't hate manual transmissions
23 hours ago
Reply to  Drew

Don’t kid yourself about those white seats. They’ll still fry your thighs. (Mine had the same seats, and I burned a fair amount of skin – pro tip: keep a spray bottle in the car to cool them down before sitting down.)

Cloth would have been much, much better

Drew
Drew
23 hours ago

Cloth is definitely better, especially in a nice light gray. But I’ll certainly take white leather over black leather.

You’re right, though, you gotta spray a little water on that leather regardless.

I don't hate manual transmissions
I don't hate manual transmissions
20 hours ago
Reply to  Drew

They weren’t real leather.

Drew
Drew
19 hours ago

That’s true. I guess I should have said pleather or “leather.” Or vinyl. I really kind of liked honest vinyl seats for the ease of cleaning them, but they needed the spraydown even more than leather and pleather in the summer.

Cars? I've owned a few
Cars? I've owned a few
20 hours ago

Wow. I never knew this hack. It would’ve even more useful when I was in HS and college and had a Datsun with brown vinyl seats!

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
1 day ago

$1500 for a working convertible, why not?

My only interest in the Captiva is the “ice cold A/C” which, sadly, nothing in my fleet of junk can claim.

SAABstory
SAABstory
1 day ago

Crapalier? That’s the nicest one I’ve seen in years, so it wins.

Captiva? Here’s where I’d insert the Gandalf pic with the text “I have no memory of this place.”

SlowCarFast
SlowCarFast
21 hours ago
Reply to  SAABstory

insert the Gandalf pic with the text “I have no memory of this place.”

I didn’t even have to die to not know the Captiva existed.
I hate it, but as someone else pointed-out, 3 speed automatics are frustrating!

Cars? I've owned a few
Cars? I've owned a few
20 hours ago
Reply to  SlowCarFast

I thinking more Obi-Wan Kenobi using a Jedi mind trick to say “This is not the SUV you are looking.”

Yes, a 3-speed AT is not impressive. My ’86 Accord had a 4-speed. But it could have been worse. The early 70s era Corolla we had for driver’s education had a 2-speed.

And this Cavalier is not something I would drive even 7/10th.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
1 day ago

I was going to go for the Captiva.

We considered a Saturn Vue around the time our first kid arrived. As small crossovers went at the time, it was worth a look. Turns out it was tighter inside than the first generation Vue, and swilled fuel like the much larger Outlook/Traverse/Acadia. The Pontiac Torrent and first-gen Equinox and its ilk were never in contention, although I thought the Suzuki XL-7 was a sleeper value (and I REALLY liked the Grand Vitara but that wasn’t gonna do it).

And this Captiva is still fine if your interest in cars is somewhere between HVAC filters and dishwashers.

I also have quite a fondness for the Z24. These late ones aren’t my favorites, and worse, it’s a convertible, additionally worse, it’s got a stupid little spoiler tacked on the trunklid.

The ultimate Z24 is the early hatch from like ’84. This is a better car, however, even though the automatic makes this more of a “grandpa wanted a convertible” kinda thing. It might not have been available with a manual by then. It’s got virtually no structural rigidity anyway, so might as well just cruise and marvel that a cowl can flex THAT MUCH.

So yeah. Cav, without reservations or not even begrudged.

Cheats McCheats
Cheats McCheats
1 day ago
Reply to  Dan Roth

My first car was an 87 Z24 5 speed. I loved that junker.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
23 hours ago

Everyone is missing out on the Gen X musclecars:

Cavalier Z24 (as well as Sunbird Turbo, etc)
Escort GT
Spirit R/T, Daytona, even Lebaron w/V6

I would be far, far more interested in seeing these things than yet another ’69 Camaro or Bullitt Mustang tribute.

Nycbjr
Nycbjr
19 hours ago
Reply to  Dan Roth

my man!!

4jim
4jim
1 day ago

Captiva, sadly the better choice and a “decent” BORING crossover for a good price. Basic transportation for someone.

Brandon Forbes
Brandon Forbes
1 day ago

Cavalier with no hesitation. I don’t love the 3 speed, but I rarely go on the highway these days so overdrive isn’t required. It would make a fun summer commuter.

MATTinMKE
MATTinMKE
1 day ago

If that wasn’t a convertible, this would be a Nope day.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 day ago

With this level of equipment, the Cav is practically a Cimmeron, so yeah it’s gonna win.
I’d put Cimmeron front & rear clips on it just to freak people out.

Shop-Teacher
Shop-Teacher
23 hours ago

Now THAT is funny!

Rollin Hand
Rollin Hand
1 day ago

If you’re asking me to choose between two cars I don’t love, I’ll take the convertible. Cadaverlier for me.

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
1 day ago

I voted Cavalier. I took a close look at the photos and saw no evidence of rust. This must have been someone’s beloved sunny days only car. If it looks that good in person, that’s an easy choice.

I’m a bit wary of Captivas. They were only produced for a few years and weren’t very popular, so far as I recall. Mechanical bits shouldn’t be too hard to get, but any cosmetic stuff might prove tricky to find.

Brandon Forbes
Brandon Forbes
1 day ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

They weren’t popular because your average consumer wasn’t able to buy them. As it was fleet only, the customer base was very limited.

PlugInPA
PlugInPA
1 day ago

Look at the driver’s side door on the Cavalier and then vote again. It looks like it requires a precise and intricate wrist choreography to close.

Brandon Forbes
Brandon Forbes
1 day ago
Reply to  PlugInPA

Eh. Realigning a door is not that difficult, and it’s completely normal to need that after 30 years.

Rusty S Trusty
Rusty S Trusty
1 day ago
Reply to  PlugInPA

Door pins are a regular wear item on GMs of this vintage. They’re cheap, readily available and easy to replace.

TheDrunkenWrench
TheDrunkenWrench
1 day ago

This is like choosing between taking a questionable decision home from the bar, or just getting roughed up by the bouncer.

I chose the Cavalier, because like my bar metaphor, I’m sure it’ll be fun for a bit, even if it is questionable.

Ash78
Ash78
1 day ago

The Captiva? I feel like this is the kind of car that appears in plush form in 20 years with a doctor asking me to point to the parts that were shared with the Saturn Vue during GM’s short-lived World Car/Hail Mary/Carpocalypse era.

Cavalier, please. With 35 CDs crammed into a 12-CD case on the sun visor.

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