The whole company now referred to as Stellantis was once called Chrysler, and yet Chrysler is the most ignored and, frankly, saddest of all the carmaker’s many brands. Technically, there’s even a new model this year, though the combination of the new model and the existing old one have somehow resulted in declining sales. It’s grim.
This will not be the first Morning Dump where I opine about the state of Chrysler, but there’s a new CEO, and he may have missed all of my previous musings on the subject. I’m here to help, because that’s just the kind of good guy I am. I’ll start with Chrysler’s failure and then, just to make it fair, I’ll talk about a few more failures. Like Tesla in recent days! The company had another mediocre quarter from a sales perspective, and I’m curious to see just how bad Cybertruck sales are going to end up this year. It could be worse, Tesla could be… Rivian.


As a whole, the industry has failed to deliver enough affordable vehicles in that sweet spot from about $25-$35k. There’s some data about how to build cars for that market that’s worth diving into, so dive I shall.
What Would You Say You Do Here, Chrysler?
The Chrysler/Cerberus/Daimler/Renault/AMC/Fiat/Chips Ahoy!/Stellantis company has gone through, oh, 47 different “resurgences” and 22 different names in the last 100 years. During most of those resurrections, there was at least one Chrysler vehicle around to help keep the brand alive. Lee Iacocca saved the company with the minivan, for which we got the Chrysler Town & Country. He did so again with the K-Car, for which we got the Chrysler LeBaron and New Yorker. You can play this game all day long. Even the PT Cruiser became the Chrysler PT Cruiser. The Chrysler vehicles might not have been the first, or most popular versions of any savior platform, but there was always something to justify the brand’s existence.
In the company’s big Obama-era turnaround, the world was treated to the Ralph Gilles-designed Chrysler 300. That’s still a car that looks excellent and feels like a brand with swagger. What does Chrysler have now? The Chrysler Pacifica minivan. And I’m not here to diss the Pacifica. I truly adore the Pacifica. It’s a great minivan, if not a slightly old one at this point. But a Swagger-mobile worthy of Walter P. Chrysler? I’m not so sure.
Last year, Chrysler added the “budget” Voyager, which is just a Pacifica in a different trim. That’s it!
Chrysler stands for luxury, abundance, and a country that won two hot wars and a cold one. It says you’re successful. It says you’ve made it. Or, at the very least, it says your credit is good enough to get a Dodge with a little more chrome on it. The American Dream, my friends.
If you want to know how bad Chrysler is doing, you can just look at this quarter’s sales results, which are dismal. Here are the brands:
- Jeep +1%
- Ram +5%
- Chrysler – 42%
- Dodge – 48%
- Fiat +25%
- Alfa Romeo -51%
It’s not like any of these brands are exactly thriving, and both Dodge and Alfa Romeo are doing worse, I suppose. Fiat has one product that’s selling miserably, but it’s an improvement over when the brand was barely able to sell double digits each month, and at least it has a new product. Here’s a quote from an analyst in the Free Press that sums it up quite well:
Ivan Drury, the director of insights at Edmunds, told the Free Press he was surprised by Stellantis’ report.
He thought it would be worse.
“While not over the top surprising, I’d say it’s slightly better than I expected. It’s not like they really blew it out of the water, right?” Drury said. “I expected them to be down 12%, and they say they’re down 10%.”
Yikes. Somehow, Voyager + Pacifica doesn’t = more sales.
This is the fault of the previous administration under Carlos Tavares, which pissed away most of the goodwill the brand had. Now there’s a new guy, CEO Antonio Filosa, and I genuinely wish him well. I think he’s already starting to make some wise moves, and the return of SRT today is already a great sign.
I think Chrysler got shortchanged under Tavares because there was a sense that the brand would get some sort of electric crossover, and we’d all be crowing about the Airflow. That didn’t happen, and doesn’t make sense now. I like the Bishop’s idea about bringing back The Imperial, but literally anything that’s not a rebadged Alfa is great at this point.
- Make a Chrysler version of the Wagoneer to compete with the Escalade?
- Make a Chrysler version of the Charger with a V8 and call it a 300?
- Make a Chrysler version of the new Jeep Cherokee and call it the… Conquest, IDK?
Without any new products, there’s no reason for Chrysler to exist. Here’s hoping the brand can figure it out, as losing Chrysler would suck.
The Tesla Cybertruck Is Going Off The Deep End
Tesla’s Q2 deliveries were out, and the expectation was that sales would be around 387,000 for the quarter. The actual number is 384,122. Not great, not terrible, and about 13% off of Q2 2024.
Here’s what stuck out to me, though:

You’re telling me that the Model S, X, and Cybertruck only added up to 10,394 total deliveries? That’s down half from Q2 last year. It’ll take until we get registration data in a few weeks to know just how poorly the Cybertruck is doing, but this number is down from last quarter as well. That’s bad.
Not To Jump To Any Conclusions… But Rivian’s Going To Have A Tough Year
The Rivian R1S and R1T are both good products, built by a smart company. It’s also an expensive vehicle in a surprisingly crowded market for electric trucks and SUVs, with only so many buyers.
Here’s how the company describes its second quarter:
Rivian Automotive, Inc. (NASDAQ: RIVN) today announced production and delivery totals for the quarter ending June 30, 2025. The company produced 5,979 vehicles at its manufacturing facility in Normal, Illinois and delivered 10,661 vehicles during the same period. Production was limited during the second quarter in preparation for model year 2026 vehicles expected to launch later this month.
Production and delivery results for the quarter are in line with Rivian’s outlook. Rivian is also reaffirming its 2025 delivery guidance range of 40,000 to 46,000 vehicles.
This adds up to barely over 20,000 cars so far this year in a market that’s likely going to get slower in the second half. Not great.
People Who Don’t Have A Million Dollars Still Want Nice Cars
Research and data firm AutoPacific put together a big report on vehicle affordability, and the big focus is on demand among buyers in that sweet spot of $25-$35k, where vehicles like the Nissan Sentra and Chevy Trax play. This is the part of the market that automakers don’t seem to be serving as well as they used to, but where there’s likely to be a lot of growth.
Per AutoPacific data, many shoppers in the $25k-$35k price bracket are more open to sedans due to their greater affordability (though they’re still more likely to want an SUV), and they’re more likely to want a tried-and-true gasoline engine. Note that while 88% of these new vehicle intenders currently own an internal combustion engined vehicle, 20% want their new $25k-$35k vehicle to be hybridized, and only about 5% want it to be fully electric. For more than a third of these buyers (35%), this will be the first time they have ever purchased or leased a new vehicle, upgrading from their current vehicle that’s, on average, more than 11 years old. On the outside, their ideal $25k-$35k vehicle doesn’t have flashy exterior enhancements like LED welcome lighting, illuminated brand logos, or an expansive glass roof.
On the inside, the cabin is likely upholstered in cloth, with manual adjustment for the seats, a cabin layout that prioritizes practicality over design with more buttons and rotary dial controls, and an analog gauge cluster next to a modestly-sized center touchscreen that doesn’t have embedded factory navigation. Despite a more restricted budget, buyers of this $25k-$35k vehicle still want several of the popular features and technology found on higher-priced vehicles including wireless charging pads for smartphones, heated and ventilated front seats, a common 110v outlet, driver profile settings, and active safety features like rear cross-traffic alert with automatic emergency braking, rearward automatic emergency braking, lane change assist, and rain-sensing windshield wipers. Features like a head-up display or upgraded branded stereos (Bose, Harman Kardon, etc.) aren’t necessary, nor are immersive connected services that require an additional paid data plan to use.
They just want nice things and not to have to pay a subscription to use their own car. Is that so hard?
What I’m Listening To While Writing TMD
It’s Houston’s very own Geto Boys with “Damn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta.” Maybe do not play this song loudly anywhere outside of your car, but please enjoy Bushwick Bill robbing a drug deal that involves… is that a guy in a Mazda MX-3? Perfect. [Ed Note: I’m a G Code guy. -DT].
The Big Question
How would you save Chrysler?
Lead photo: Office Space/Stellantis
Chrysler doesn’t deserve to be saved, but it could be saved just by taking advantage of the Stellantis catalog. Obviously, Ram would stop being a separate brand and just go back to Dodge.
Chrysler:
Ami (Citroen Ami)
Topolino (Fiat Topolino)
Cirrus (Peugeot 308, in both sedan and wagon versions)
Concorde (luxury version of Charger/Magnum; see below)
PT Cruiser (Grande Panda)
Pacifica (but with I4 engines instead of V6) or better yet rebadge the Staria or Alphard
Crossland
Grandland
Aspen (current Wagoneer line)
Dodge:
Panda
Neon (Tipo)
Stratus (508, including the wagon))
Charger/Challenger
Magnum (a Charger wagon)
Rampage (Ram 700)
Dakota (Ram 1200/Triton)
Ram 1500/2500/3500 – bring back the 1500 Mega Cab 😀
Doblo
Caravan (Scudo)
Ducato
Durango (Ram 1500 with a wagon body)
Jeep:
Avenger
Renegade
Wrangler
Wrangler Safari (a 7-seat 3-row Wrangler on the Gladiator LWB chassis) perhaps it could even use the Wagoneer name
Cherokee (current SWB Grand Cherokee)
Grand Cherokee (current LWB GC)
Gladiator
Scrambler (a 2-door short wheelbase version of the Gladiator)
**NOTE: the current Wagoneer would instead be a Dodge or Chrysler
The Commander/Meridian could fit in the Dodge or Chrysler lineup too https://opposite-lock.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f914.png?v=q27a268s04o
BONUS: Plymouth
Mobi
Argo
Breeze (Peugeot 301)
Scamp (South American Ram Rampage/Toro)
Pulse
Landtrek
https://opposite-lock.com/topic/111674/how-chrysler-can-fix-its-lineup-and-have-a-complete-lineup
I dunno, these days I see people with three kids and think, “man, they have a lot of money”.
Maybe give Chrysler the big three row suv/limo/minivan for people who want to pretend they aren’t driving a minivan.
“How would you save Chrysler?”
That’s not complicated at all.. just get the brand some product. Bring out a new 300 based off the new Charger. Bring back the PT Cruiser… as an entry level CUV.
And making Chrysler versions of the Cherokee and Wagoneer are good ideas.
It would be asinine for Stellantis to kill Chrysler while keeping true zombie brands like Lancia and DS (this should be a MODEL under Citroen, not a fucking brand.)
I was going to go the other way and say that so few people know of DS just straight up rebadge them as Chrysler in the US and call it a day. Also do the same thing with a couple of models from Peugeot.
I know tariffs will definitely screw with the value proposition here but this doesn’t have to happen overnight Chrysler is only slightly more dead now than it was 5 years ago.
You know things are dire for the Cybertruck when you point your 9yo daughter at one out in the street and she says “that’s horrible”
The 9yo daughter’s imagination seems to be lessening, sadly. Imagine how much a CT will be worth as a collectible years from now, especially if they stop producing it.
As a stand alone brand Chrysler does not make sense to me at this point.
Time to call Dr. Kevorkian. YMMV
I’d just let it die. They’ve effectively been dead for years already. Personally the real loss was Saturn and Pontiac. They had interesting models and it felt like they were killed off prematurely.
The 300 always looked ugly, cheap, and tasteless to me.
As long as they don’t try to get ANOTHER bailout. Poke Chrysler and Dodge, they are done. Keep Jeep and keep it alive with new power trains and QUALITY and maybe that’ll be worth the save.
My mind’s playing tricks on me! Hardigree a Geto Boys fan…I got their first CD back in college in the late 80s and then saw them live when they came to town about a decade ago. Man, they (the ones that made it out of the 90s anyway) are not aging well. But they still got it though, it was quite the show at a small club. Doors opened at 8, they showed up at around, oh, midnight… I’d go again!
Chrysler? Chrysler? Yeah, wow, hadn’t thought of them in forty five years!
First I’d do up my hair in an eye-catching way and then put on something comfy, like a white spa robe. Then I’d make a hologram message for Obi-wan imploring him to save the company and send droids to deliver it.
Re Chrysler turnarounds: Their business cycles have been about the same as a fruit fly life cycle for many decades. They seem to be completely incapable of executing a sustainable business model.
Even Jesus Chrysler drives a Dodge.
Chrysler should go after the near-luxury market similar to Honda’s Acura brand. Start with STLA Large and build some old-school luxo-barges with modern suspension and acceleration. Give ’em all the drive modes with the default being “bathed in a sea of fast-moving pillows”. Then, let’s get some CUV’s. Stellantis has multiple donor platforms here, including some that underpin various Jeep makes. Use these good bones, and then change out all the external sheet metal and put in a nice passenger compartment.
Ultimately though, they need a very distinct design language that sets the brand far apart from others.
Next, don’t skimp on the powertrains… every vehicle should get at least two options and the base powertrain needs to be competitively potent for the segment as well.
Additionally, price ’em right. Have a base CUV/SUV that competes against the RAV4 and others in that segment which will be high-volume and nicely appointed for about $30k. Don’t try to pull another Dodge Hornet on us.
Finally, the brand needs a true halo car to draw shoppers in the showroom. Airflow would have done it, but now all they have is the Pacifica, which, let’s be honest, should just be a Dodge vehicle anyways.
I was going to say Chrysler is a good way to rebadge some Citroens for the American market but even Citroen is kind of boring now. Do people still buy Lincolns? Are American luxury brands pointless now?
Chrysler needs catchy slogans.
“Chrysler, we sent astronauts into orbit before Elon’s parents started dating!”
“Chrysler, we built the car of the future 60 years ago!”
“Chrysler, we made the uranium AND the airplane that delivered it!”
Well you get the idea, I mean, I’m sure there is something to brag about, maybe something in this century even.
Watching from the sidelines, it seems quite odd to me that Chrysler continues to employ about 80k people in the US to support a single vehicle that doesn’t sell amazingly. And that they continue to exist within a larger corporate structure that is experiencing an existential crisis and is bleeding cash out of its jugular vein is a sign of significant leadership neglect.
Chrysler should have been folded 10 years ago.
I think that technically a lot of those 80k people are working on behalf of other brands.
Like there are people who work at GM, but there are no GM branded cars. Well maybe GMC, but that’s named after Mr Grabowsky isn’t it?
How would I save Chrysler? I’d double down on novelty Chips Ahoy! flavors. Chips Ahoy/Taco Bell mashups? You betcha!
I’m in the “he’s dead Jim” camp. The Pacifica could easily be a Dodge Caravan again, and would lose zero of its customers being a Dodge instead of a Chrysler. Keep your bargain bin “Voyager” if you want too.
This isn’t like discontinuing the Escalade because you can just sell a Chevy Tahoe to everyone. The Chrysler brand has been barely on anyone’s radar for at least a decade now.
They needed a SUV/CUV to be relevant, and they didn’t get one. Stellantis clearly felt like customers were more likely to drop big coin on a Jeep than try and make a Chrysler branded luxury SUV. They probably are right. About five people bought the rebadged Durango Chrysler Aspen when it was available. A Ram badged SUV to compete with the Tahoe/Suburban would probably make more sense than a Chrysler.
They should have been building Chrysler in 2010 or so when the refreshed 300 came out and it was still relevant.
If the company gets back on its feet someday, then maybe you roll out a Chrysler again as a limited run halo car, but it won’t need its own dealer network.
I wonder if Chrysler/Stellantis could make more money licensing their Stow & Go to other brands than they actually do in sales?
A few options:
Stow @ Go is no longer under patent protection. 20 years have passed.
Woah…big if true.
The original Stow’n Go patent dates to 2002 – it has expired. The current design was approved in 2014 and is still in effect.
Ford recent filed a patent for their own version:
https://fordauthority.com/2025/06/future-ford-vehicles-could-get-underfloor-storage/
There are lots of options in the $25K to $35K price range from sedans to crossovers and that aren’t even horrible.
$25K to $30K buys a midsize Civic. It will also buy a base CRV or Accord.
Toyota has the compact Corolla starting at only $22K and tops out at $28K. The Corolla Cross is less than $30K. A RAV4 – even hybrid can be had for less than $35K.
Options from just 2 companies. However I doubt you will find ventilated seats in that price range.
Do you even need ventilation for cloth?
I prefer cloth for that reason. It sucks for fur and spills, but it’s quite a bit more comfortable than leather for my hot ass.
IT is very hard to save Chrysler when Jeep is playing in the lux class versus offroad capable middle class family market. I do like the idea of the Charger chassis getting to be both a luxobarge with a big V8 and even a mid size sport sedan, but lets be honest both markets they would fit in are not rising very much. And that new chassis has not really proven itself yet. Certainly it might help to be able to offer all flavors of drive train from Gas to Erev to Full BEV though.
with Jeeps Wrangler starting to show some cracks around the edges, I would probably take the Wagoneer, adjust the body to match a Ram truck a bit more, give it the absolute best tech interior the conglomerate can muster and get Chrysler in the Escalade competition, make a far more decontented and shorter, but still effective K5 ish version only for Ram. and make jeep only make actual offroad worthy vehicles. The Ram name and Jeep name being as independent as they have become only hurts the overall parent company when they scope creep out of their original reason for being.
I see this Chrysler death talk as probably moot. Why? Because if Fiat can exist with one model, and Dodge survived those leans model years, Chrysler can live on the Pacifica alone. Of course that’s not ideal, but killing off Chrysler should be a non-starter. Making the Pacifica a Dodge would just bring down the perception of it to no good effect. Chrysler is seen as the more premium of the brands and that is worth something.
Obviously I could be wildly incorrect, but I view killing off the Chrysler name as a complete admission of defeat that will further erode the reputation of the Stellantis and possibly lead to a death spiral where only Jeep and Ram remain.
I could certainly see a shortened and perhaps more SUV styled like the old Journey as being a good, perhaps closer to entry level priced Chrysler product that might be smart on their part to make.
Fiat at least sells a multitude of models in Europe; Chrysler has one model for maybe the whole world? It’s not Buick where they could at least say they sold well in China to justify its existence.
I just don’t know if people associate Chrysler with premium-ness like you do. I think they had a moment with the 300 and the Imported From Detroit campaign, but that was ages ago now.
It’s possible my advanced age is suffering from nostalgic prestige.
Are you possibly of a younger generation?
I’m 38 so probably! Chrysler has never meant much to me growing up in the 90s, but I wasn’t a car kid per se who actually knew much about different brands.
58 YO here. Yeah, I still remember Imperials rolling and they were prestige models (and another dead brand too). That likely explains it.
I’m 48 – Chrysler has not been a premium brand in my lifetime and I grew up in southern Michigan surround by Detroit 3 cars. Even in the 80’s it was midtier – similar to Mercury.
So I gather you disagree with my assertion? 🙂
Not really – I’d say Chrysler lost their mojo in the early to mid 70’s. You are old enough to remember the pre-emission, pre-oil embargo luxury land yachts that cruised the roads with swagger.
I grew up with Chrysler as rebadged K-cars
Indeed they swaggered, especially around corners.
I hate to say it, but Chrysler is LeBarren territory.
No Carlos Tavares photo?
An unfortunate missed opportunity.
I’m sure one of the Office Space photos could be easily repurposed.
Only Carlos Ghosn can save Chrysler.
Somebody get that man into a cello case and get his ass to Detroit!
“[…]upholstered in cloth, with manual adjustment for the seats, a cabin layout that prioritizes practicality over design with more buttons and rotary dial controls, and an analog gauge cluster next to a modestly-sized center touchscreen that doesn’t have embedded factory navigation.”
This, all day long. I’m the only driver of my car, so I don’t need power seats and setting memory. It’s already set-and-forget. I like the buttons and dials, and analog gauges look better. There’s so much fluff in cars now that it just drives the prices up for no reason. Slate may be the other end of that bell curve, but I’d be happy with something closer to Slate than to the high-end tech.
I’m happier with digital displays, but analog controls.
I’m sure the digital displays, in current age, would be cheaper anyway.
Being a keep-car-forever person, fancy power adjustments are just a “this will be a PITA to replace in 10 years” item. I know there are 30+ year old cars with functioning seat motors, but I just don’t trust that stuff unless I need it.
I would save Chrysler the indignity and embarrassment of continuing and rebadge the Pacifica as a Dodge, where it’ll probably still not sell in significant numbers. Stellantis, for all of its varied brands, seems to be a total rudderless shitshow, which is a shame. I hope the new boss does a much better job of trying to right the ship compared to Tavares. I cannot say I like many of their products, but competition is a good thing for the consumer. Usually.