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Cool Four-Wheel-Drive Toys: 1980 Plymouth Arrow vs 1985 Subaru GL

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Remember when 4x4s used to be fun? They were playful and carefree, advertised with photos of smiling folks unloading surfboards or having a picnic on a mountaintop. Nowadays, it’s all Very Serious blacked-out faux-tactical bullshit, and nobody looks like they’re having any fun at all. So today, I thought we’d take a look at a couple of 4WD toys from the good old days.

Yesterday’s crossovers weren’t much fun, but you all really hated one of them in particular – the Jeep Compass. The nicest comments I saw about it were along the lines of “it’s kinda okay, I guess.” Most other comments were far less charitable. I probably could have put a Power Wheels Barbie Jeep up against it and it still would have lost. (Actually, that gives me an idea for the future…)

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The Fiat 500X wasn’t really anybody’s idea of a good time either, but at least it carries out its humdrum suburban workhorse duties with a modicum of European flair. Some of you were concerned about the reliability, but from what I’ve heard, the modern Fiats aren’t too bad in that regard. I guess, if you have to drive a compact crossover, that Fiat wouldn’t be completely terrible.

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My wife and I love going to antique malls, thrift stores, and flea markets. Last weekend, I came home with a cool old toy truck, which I’m sure my fellow 70s/80s kids will recognize immediately:

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Yep, that is a genuine original Schaper Stomper 4×4. If you’re not familiar with these little wonders, they were all the rage in the early 80s. They’re about three inches long, powered by a single AA battery, with 4WD and working headlights. They sold for about three dollars, if I remember right. I paid … more than that for this one. Sadly, it doesn’t work; someone left a battery in it for who knows how many decades, and the terminals are corroded away. But it’s a cool conversation piece anyway.

You could get Stompers in a dizzying variety of bodystyles, all kinds of makes and models, all brightly-colored and decked out with stripe kits and roll bars, just like any good 4×4 back then. I’m pretty sure both of today’s featured vehicles were available in Stomper form, actually. Let’s check them out.

1980 Plymouth Arrow Sport 4×4 – $4,900

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Engine/drivetrain: 2.6-liter OHC inline 4, five-speed manual, 4WD

Location: Vancouver, WA

Odometer reading: 84,000 miles

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Operational status: Runs and drives well

This truck, apparently, never existed. Plymouth sold its version of the Mitsubishi-built Dodge D50 as the Arrow from 1979 to 1982, but it was never available with four-wheel drive. And to my knowledge, no 4WD Mitsubishi was ever available in this country with a solid front axle. This is a custom job. It’s well-done, though; it looks like it could have been a factory product.

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Power comes from the stock Mitsubishi 4G54 four-cylinder and a five-speed manual. if I had to guess, I would say that the transfer case came from a later 4WD Mitsubishi Mighty Max or Dodge Ram 50, and if I’m not mistaken, the front axle is a Dana 30, probably from a Jeep. The rear axle is probably stock. Both axles are hung on leaf springs. The only information we get about its mechanical condition is that it “runs and drives good.”

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The Arrow Sport came with bucket seats, a center console, a tach, and some other goodies. It looks stock inside, with an additional shift lever for the transfer case. It’s in great condition, except for maybe a missing trim piece or two, but that’s not a big deal.

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Outside, it has some rust, but it also has those glorious factory stripes. I’m not as fond of the wheel choice, though; they look too modern. Some nice white or chrome 8-spoke wagon wheels would be a better choice. And it’s absolutely crying out for a roll bar in the bed with lights on top.

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1985 Subaru GL 4WD Hatchback – $3,650

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Engine/drivetrain: 1.8 liter OHV flat 4, four-speed manual, 4WD

Location: Colorado Springs, CO

Odometer reading: 205,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

Now this one absolutely came from the factory with four-wheel drive. Subaru started offering 4WD in its cars way back in the 70s. This car was known as the Leone in other parts of the world, but here in the US, it had no model name, just trim designations: DL, GL, or GL-10, available in a variety of different bodystyles. This little two-door hatchback is a GL model.

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Subaru’s use of flat-four engines dates back even further than its 4WD system, all the way back to 1966. It’s mounted ahead of the front axle, just ahead of a four-speed transaxle that powers the front wheels all the time, and the rear wheels when you pull a little lever in the center console. This one has a bunch of new parts, and the seller says it runs and drives well.

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It looks decent inside, except for some weirdness on the left side of the dash, and there’s no telling what’s under those seat covers. It has some modern add-on touchscreen stereo or something in it, which I’m not fond of, but I guess some people like them. Looking at this interior makes me remember two things about these old Subarus: the “ding-dong” key chime, and the clutch pedal with about an inch of travel that engages right off the floor.

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It looks like it used to be white outside, but it has been repainted in this dull gray. It kind of suits it, but I feel like it needs some stripes or something. I’m less thrilled about the blue wheels; they’re supposed to be white as well. I don’t see any rust on it, though, which is good. It comes with some aftermarket roof racks, if you’re into that sort of thing.

The seller of the Subaru claims that it would make a good daily driver, but really, these are both toys. Pretty cool toys, though. One of them has been built into what it is, and the other was already a legend from the factory. And they both look like they belong in a plastic bubble package, hung on a peg at K-Mart for $2.99. Which one looks like a more fun toy to you?

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ColoradoFX4
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ColoradoFX4
3 months ago

The seller of the Subaru claims that it would make a good daily driver, but really, these are both toys.

You haven’t spent enough time in Colorado, Mercedes. Here, those old Leones are very much running around as dailies. If anything, you maximize your credibility rolling up to one of the ski hills in an old Subie.

Last edited 3 months ago by ColoradoFX4
Xt6wagon
Xt6wagon
3 months ago

Tried to buy a hatchback back in the day. All fwd 1.6l made of broken.
So this looks good to me other than the missing spare.

Fun fact, its cheaper and easier to put a Webber on it than fix the factory carb.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
3 months ago
Reply to  Xt6wagon

Agreed and a better result. The hardest thing about a Weber replacement is finding a set for a decent price. A Weber outdoor grill, nice piece of equipment, is cheaper

TriangleRAD
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TriangleRAD
2 months ago
Reply to  Xt6wagon

The same is true of the Plymouth.

M SV
M SV
3 months ago

The arrow for sure. It just looks right and could be useful as well as weird.

KYFire
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KYFire
3 months ago

The GL has some nostalgia as my brother had one back in the early 90s that I rode around in but I think this is one time to take the project vehicle over the stock one.

Rob D
Rob D
3 months ago

Both please!!! If either one were closer…I have not seen a GL since the early 90’s. Figured they rusted away.

XLEJim700
XLEJim700
3 months ago

I’m arrow t’ the marrow.

Mr. RabbitGTI
Mr. RabbitGTI
3 months ago

Two cars from my childhood. Dad had a 1980 D-50 and Mom had a 1985 GL sedan. Loved both those cars as 17-year old me felt they were both huge improvements over my 1974 Gran Torino. Went with the Arrow but would be happy to have them both.

Josh O
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Josh O
3 months ago

Why are you making us choose? I want them both. Proceeds to have meltdown on my office floor.

Sasquatch
Sasquatch
3 months ago

Arrow all the way. Small trucks are awesome and SAS’d small trucks kick ass, I would daily that thing without hesitation. Change out those wheels for some white steelies and it’s solid gold.

Last edited 3 months ago by Sasquatch
Squirrelmaster
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Squirrelmaster
3 months ago

Give me the Arrow! I’d change the wheels, but the rest is awesome! Good thing it is so many states away from me…

CuppaJoe
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CuppaJoe
3 months ago

I love that Subaru was so non-conforming.

Spare tire? Under the hood.

Little hatchback car? Yes but 4WD.

4WD? Yes, but FWD when not engaged.

4WD activation method? Little lever on the center console.

Last edited 3 months ago by CuppaJoe
Isis
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Isis
3 months ago

Glad you mentioned the white wheels for the Subaru, it just looks odd without the white painted, rust-trimmed wagon wheels.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
3 months ago
Reply to  Isis

Never liked the white wagon wheels

It's Pronounced Porch-ah
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It's Pronounced Porch-ah
3 months ago

The glorious yellow truck! I agree that the wheels are wrong though, and I wish more modern 4x4s would stop the punisher cosplay and make it look like being outside is fun again.

Brandon Forbes
Brandon Forbes
3 months ago

Oh man, from being a truck I had never heard of, to being shown off twice here in less than a month, I think I’m being inceptioned into wanting an Arrow. I love the custom work on this one too and yellow is a great color for this too!

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
3 months ago

I’ll take both AND their bratty love child too.

Rich Hobbs
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Rich Hobbs
3 months ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Any pictures of the bratty love child? Maybe I’ll take that! Lol

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
3 months ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

I was thinking of a Brat. I wonder if anyone ever took a Subaru Brat put a grill in the back to grill up some brats, and used it to feed their children who were brats while they played with their brat dolls?

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
3 months ago

Are you sure you’re not just recalling your own childhood?

Rich Hobbs
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Rich Hobbs
2 months ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Ask, and ye shall receive!! Love it!

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
2 months ago
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Rich Hobbs
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Rich Hobbs
2 months ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Thx! Will do.

Parsko
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Parsko
3 months ago

Plymouth 1000%

TK-421
TK-421
3 months ago

Old Subbie fan has to go Subbie, even if the truck might be fun.
My dealership had a Cars and Coffee last month, I got to see a handful of old models I had forgotten about. I’d rather have a Justy but change the wheels to some Sparco’s and the GL will do.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
3 months ago

Nope! Can’t do it. And you can’t make me!

Kevin Rhodes
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Kevin Rhodes
3 months ago

My heart wants the Subie, my first car was an ’82 4dr GL sans 4wd, and I always wanted a 4wd one. But my head says truck, because it would be a whole lot more useful to me than a tiny hatch.

That Subaru is missing it’s spare tire – should be in that circular area above the engine. One of many delightful oddities with these cars. Like early Saab 900s, the handbrake is on the front wheels too – which I discovered to my chagrin trying to figure out handbrake turns in the snow.

You need to get out a soldering iron and fix that stomper. How hard can it be to rig up some battery contacts? Get that thing running!

4jim
4jim
3 months ago

I want to vote for the truck BUT I have seen too many homemade 4×4 conversions be sketchy and dangerous. Also I had a 91 grey Justy AWD and kind of miss it.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
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Grey alien in a beige sedan
3 months ago

I love them both, but the Plymouth just seems like it would be a great little runabout. So I’m going to go with that one, although the Subie seems maybe better to be dailied.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
3 months ago

The yellow truck seems to be in better condition

Littlebag
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Littlebag
3 months ago

Wow, it’s pretty rare for a car to come up in one of these that I have zero recollection of existing. I want it.

Littlebag
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Littlebag
3 months ago
Reply to  Littlebag

Posted too fast, I meant the Arrow

Beasy Mist
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Beasy Mist
3 months ago

As much as I’m turned off by that hateful 2.6 engine the Mitsubishi just looks too cool so I had to go that way.

Nlpnt
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Nlpnt
3 months ago

There was a Stomper of that generation Subaru hatchback too. None of the Arrow but MPC did a 1/25 model kit of one of those solid-axle conversion 4wd D-50s, iirc it appeared at just around the time the factory 4wd model with IFS was announced.

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