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Every First Gen Pontiac GTO Is Special Because It Shouldn’t Exist, But This One Is Extra Special

For Sale Friday Gto

After last week’s Pontiac Pthursday I thought it might be nice to go back to the car that made us all care about Pontiac performance in the first place. The GOAT. Or, if you scramble it a bit, A GTO. It’s not the only car to carry the initials, but it’s the only one you can modify significantly without being accused of heresy or tossing millions of dollars in value out of the window.

While I generally think few cars are truly sacrosanct, customizing a Ferrari GTO–one of the most valuable cars in existence–seems unwise even to me. The Pontiac, though, is fair game. Not only were GTOs modified often in their day, I was at the Greenwich Concours last weekend and there was a whole class of original survivor GTOs, so they’re not so rare as to require special keeping.

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Welcome to FOR SALE FRIDAY, a new series we’re testing out where we feature an interesting car for sale in the Galpin Motors universe. We figure we’ve been writing about interesting Cars & Bids cars and Bring a Trailer cars; why not write about our cofounder Beau’s interesting machines? Today it’s a modified 1967 Pontiac GTO.

The name was so legendary that I’m often surprised at how relatively affordable these have become. I think this is another case of the buyers who desired these a few years ago are now largely out of the market. In a world where people are dropping $66,000 for Civic SIs, spending less on a GTO seems like a deal.

A Car That Shouldn’t Exist

1964 Pontiac Gto Front 9 4
Photo: General Motors

The GTO was an incredibly timed car, appearing at a moment when GM both wanted Pontiac to get younger and, yet, didn’t want to be associated with motorsports or the kinds of high performance vehicles the younger generation wanted. The story of the GTO is well-trod at this point, though it’s worth revisiting just how unlikely this car was given that GM abruptly decided in 1963 that it didn’t want to be involved in racing and put forth a bunch of rules, including ones on putting big engines in small cars.

At the same time, a group of young engineers who would later go on to be famous–John DeLorean and Bill Collins most famously–were tinkering with the idea of putting the brand’s 389 V8 into the LeMans, which was the coupe version of the humdrum Tempest.

As Hagerty writes, once one car was built it created momentum that wasn’t going to end until thousands existed:

DeLorean put some of the most influential players at Pontiac and GM behind the wheel of the new creation. The LeMans test mule was said to be so much fun to drive that DeLorean often had difficulty getting the car back after he had loaned it out. At this point, the biggest obstacle DeLorean faced to get the car into production was GM’s internal policy regarding big engines in small cars: in the GTO’s case, a corporate edict mandating 10 pounds of vehicle weight per cubic inch of engine displacement. The team slyly discovered a loophole in the wording—the displacement limit only applied to base engines; there was nothing written about optional engines. So the LeMans with the GTO option package, which included the 389 V-8, adhered to the rule because it was offered only as an option. DeLorean reached out to Jim Wangers, vice president at Pontiac’s advertising agency, McManus, John, and Adams. DeLorean asked Wangers to promote the sensational car to a whole new generation of young Americans and show them the meaning of driving for fun. Wangers was so successful in promoting the GTO-optioned LeMans that Pontiac took 5000 dealer orders before the GM Corporate folks knew the car existed. There was no turning back.

I would love to have been in the meeting where DeLorean had to admit he could only build a successful car at GM in secret, and the irony that it was based on the name of a famous race but sold by a company not involved with racing was surely lost on absolutely no one. DeLorean would obviously go onto be come equally famous and infamous and, while the car itself was neither the first muscle car nor the most powerful, it did become one of the most recognizable (due in no small part to the amazing advertising built around the GTO).

GTO, like the Ferrari, gets its name from the term Gran Turismo Omologato, meaning a vehicle homologated to race in the then-FIA GT category. I much prefer the more colloquial version, which is that GTO stands for “Gas, Tires, and Oil” because those are the only things you’d ever need to change.

Today’s FSF car did not follow that dictum and, instead, changed a few more things.

A Plum Crazy 1967 Model

1967 Pontiac Gto 9
Photo: Galpin Motors

I’m not entirely certain why the 1967 model is the one I immediately picture when someone says GTO. This is the era when most American carmakers were still pushing abrupt visual refreshes to their cars nearly every model year. The 1964 model, though the OG GTO, still hews close to the Tempest LeMans it’s based on and therefore doesn’t stand out visually. By 1965, Pontiac’s success persuaded the company to build an entire brand around the GTO, so the Tempest part was dropped and stacked headlights were added to give the car a little more character. The apotheosis of the first gen car is also the last iteration, in 1967, where the Coke bottle shape becomes more pronounced and the grille becomes extremely aggressive.

This particular car, for sale at Jaguar Land Rover Van Nuys, has everything possible done to accentuate the shape without ruining the proportions. The Plum Mist Metallic paint is, it appears, a Pontiac color from the era, and is obviously darker than the Plum Crazy I associate with the cult of Mopar. The BOSS wheels, while not stock, are evocative of something you’d find in the era.

1967 Pontiac Gto 2
Photo: Galpin Motors

The car looks every bit of its nearly 17 feet of length, with a rear deck roughly the length and flatness of Kansas west of Lawrence. The biggest hint on the exterior that this car is something a little more special than stock are the sidepipes, which fill in the space in the car’s naturally exaggerated wheelbase.

Underhood, things fall into a more predictable pattern:

1967 Pontiac Gto 4
Photo: Galpin Motors

The listing estimates the power at the vehicle’s stock 335 horsepower, which is what most GTOs produced from an evolution of the 389 found in that first model. Do you like chrome? If you want this car, I hope you like chrome, because the inner fenders and just about every reasonable surface ahead of the firewall has a shine to match the wheels.

1967 Pontiac Gto 6
Photo: Galpin Motors

This motif is continued inside, where the 46,844 miles this car has doesn’t show at all, leading me to think that the modifications came well into the vehicle’s life. The color here as described as “ivory vinyl” and that’s a good color reference, as it has a little more white in it than a cream interior would. The most important feature here, obviously, is the five-speed transmission. While I enjoy the pleasing thunk of a column shifter, this car is just right with a manual transmission.

The wheel appears to be a custom piece and reflects the chrome touches on the rest of the car. It’s not for me, but it’s of a kind with other cars I’ve seen customized in this way.

1967 Pontiac Gto 7
Photo: Galpin Motors

I love the coffee brown carpet as an offset to the ivory interior, and I’m glad that the Body by Fisher stamp is still there on the door sill. That’s an important part of the vehicle’s history and it would be a shame to lose that.

The car is listed for $59,999 before an $85 document fee, which is both literally and figuratively a lot of car for the money. That’s almost exactly the same as a new Dodge Charger Scat Pack Plus two-door, which is maybe faster but won’t get you the attention or the V8 sounds this will.

If you’re interested in buying this car, reach out to Tommy Rezaie at trezaie@galpin.com. Because Galpin Motors is run by Autopian co-founder Beau Boeckmann, you should let Tommy know you heard about the car on The Autopian. If you buy the car it’ll include a Velour Membership, and if you’re already a member it’ll come with an automatic upgrade. If you want anything else sold by Galpin (new or used) you can use the email concierge@theautopian.com and we’ll get you to the right person!

 

 

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Drive By Commenter
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Drive By Commenter
11 days ago

Not bad but definitely needs some de-boomering. Gimme a stockish steering wheel. Five spoke wheels are usually fine but not those wheels. Those have way too much going on and are too large for this era. The lake pipes need to go. They’re cool on a Viper or Cobra but not on a more upright car like this Goat.

Shooting Brake
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Shooting Brake
11 days ago

Thank god the steering wheel and wheels are easy to change at least…

Mike F.
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Mike F.
11 days ago

I saw the photos of the exterior of the car and thought, “Man, I want that.” And then I saw the photos of the interior and thought, “Never mind”.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
11 days ago

I was assembling a 1968-69 A body convertible from junkyard bits, and all the 66-67 A bodies were kind of scary. Folded, spindled and mutilated they were.
The 69 was remarkably sturdy in comparison. Also dual circuit brakes.

I have heard that replacing the frame with a convertible frame makes it much better, but still…

Mark Tucker
Mark Tucker
11 days ago

The wheels, both road and steering, have absolutely got to go. They’re atrocious.

Vanillasludge
Vanillasludge
11 days ago

I’m sorry…this is terrible. Is this from an old Pimp My Ride? These restomods need to get out of the early 2000’s.

Redapple
Redapple
11 days ago

i like cars with ZERO mods.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
11 days ago
Reply to  Redapple

Right. I have my own tacky taste. Don’t need someone else’s.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
11 days ago

Fun thing about the Pontiac “big block” is that there is no Pontiac “big block.”

There is no “small block,” either. There’s just “Pontiac V8.”

This is how the famous “ringer” press car sent to Car and Driver pulled off its astounding feats of performance.

See, from 326 to 455 cubic inches, they all looked the same on the outside.

“Sure, that’s a 389 in there.” And I’m sure the cam, ignition timing, compression ratio, and carb tune were all the same as stock, too.

I think it was the Buick V8s (not the Nailhead – that doesn’t breathe and was a half-assed implementation of an experimental design that was supposed to have splayed valves like a Hemi) that packed all that displacement in a package that was about the same as the small block Chevy, though.

Dodsworth
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Dodsworth
11 days ago
Reply to  Dan Roth

Right. Pontiac slid a 421 in there.

I_drive_a_truck
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I_drive_a_truck
11 days ago

Should this be labeled as a partner post in the interest of transparency?

Lotsofchops
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Lotsofchops
11 days ago

Is it really a partner if it’s the co-owner of the site?

I_drive_a_truck
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I_drive_a_truck
10 days ago
Reply to  Lotsofchops

They’re promoting a related-party commercial business. It’s always mentioned in the article but I think tagging them as a partner is accurate enough, if not underselling the conflict of interest.

Lotsofchops
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Lotsofchops
10 days ago

Fair enough. And it might be the co-owner but it is a wholly separate business, regardless of ownership.

Albert Ferrer
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Albert Ferrer
11 days ago

Buy it, return it to stock, enjoy it after.

Dodsworth
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Dodsworth
11 days ago

I love GTOs but I’m not a fan of all the shiny bits. The steering wheel is an affront to humanity. This is why you shouldn’t let children play with heirlooms.

Pappa P
Pappa P
8 days ago
Reply to  Dodsworth

The child that did this is probably 74 years old lol

79 Burb-man
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79 Burb-man
11 days ago

I was lucky enough to have a 67 GTO for a bit. It was kind of a basic case, but I miss it every day.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
11 days ago
Reply to  79 Burb-man

That frenched rear window is *chef’s kiss*

It’s also a rust trap.

But ’67 is the GTO we all mentally picture because it’s the best year. ’68 was the new A-body shell. Still cool, but not as cool. Though I wouldn’t hate a Judge or Stage IV or whatever with the “tulip shaped valves” C-E copywriters talked about under fisheye-lens photography. (I’m assuming it was Campbell Ewald because they were synonymous with GM advertising for so long, but maybe it was just Chevrolet.)

Urban Runabout
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Urban Runabout
11 days ago
Reply to  Dan Roth

That’s not a “frenched rear window”

Look at the back of a 1969-1972 Imperial LeBaron – and compare it to a 69-72 Chrysler NewYorker.
The smaller opening is a frenched rear window.

What you are referring to are roof buttresses.

Edrummer106
Edrummer106
11 days ago

That steering wheel looks like you’d need to keep oven mitts in the car for the sunny days.

Goblin
Goblin
11 days ago

And in other news, the new PontKemon game: find the dealership that sells this, turn your back at a perfect 90 degrees angle to that thing, run till you hit an ocean, reverse.

Methodjason
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Methodjason
11 days ago

So someone tried to make a replica of the GTO from the Vin Diesel movie XXX?

4moremazdas
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4moremazdas
11 days ago

It’s a great color, but needs a lot less chrome. Yeesh.

Side pipes are neat, but not on this. I would be somewhat ok with them, but the rear end looks incomplete without a couple of exhaust tips.

Stacheface
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Stacheface
11 days ago

All that work and they couldn’t repaint the chipped sills?

Peter Spinale
Peter Spinale
11 days ago
Reply to  Stacheface

yeah, that’s worrisome, like bad prep?

Stacheface
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Stacheface
11 days ago
Reply to  Peter Spinale

I think it screams boomer paid resto ala overhauling or any of those other quick turnaround make it flashy shows.

Peter Spinale
Peter Spinale
11 days ago
Reply to  Stacheface

oh… yeah.. those shows where primer dries in 15 minutes..
Like the home makeover shows. I always wonder about those houses, I imagine the paint just falling off the walls in one piece, like a curtain.
Absolutely a boomer though.. I’m a boomer so I can say that.

Last edited 11 days ago by Peter Spinale
FndrStrat06
FndrStrat06
11 days ago
Reply to  Stacheface

Not just chipped, is it actively peeling??

H T
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H T
11 days ago
Reply to  Stacheface

If that pic is included in the ad, I’d give Galpin credit for full disclosure

Last edited 11 days ago by H T
Cerberus
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Cerberus
11 days ago
Reply to  Stacheface

It makes me wonder if the hinges are worn. Is it bad enough that the door flies open in turns? Boomer never drove it over 25 and only in a straight line, so it didn’t bother him.

Anonymous Person
Anonymous Person
11 days ago

I would swap out the steering wheel for a basic 4-spoke Grant, and put in a stock-looking manual dimmable rearview mirror and drive it.

Hazdazos
Hazdazos
11 days ago

That steering wheel and dash are a disgraceful, and the scraped-off paint on the door sill (seen in the last pic) tells me this shouldn’t be going for $60k, but other than that, this is a gorgeous car in a beautiful color and proves once again that the 60s were peak automotive design.

Unencumbered by things like emissions, safety or fuel economy, no era of car has quite as many stunners as the 1960s. Especially when you factor that unlike some of the gorgeous pre-war era cars that were aimed at the ultra rich, the car’s that GM Studios was putting out in the 60s were all aimed at the mass market. This GTO was a roughly $3000 in 1967 which translates to about $30k today. What car can even touch this styling today for that money?

Harvey Firebirdman
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Harvey Firebirdman
11 days ago
Reply to  Hazdazos

The steering wheel is so gaudy. The wheels are also ugly to me. I prefer classics to look at stock as possible but that is just me. Like hell I put my cassette player back into my 89 Formula and got the gold spoked wheels like a trans am would have had (can kind of see it in my sig pic). Though my hood in a 98-02 look hood (don’t care for the look all that much but was the only thing that could fit my intake and allow good air flow)

Cerberus
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Cerberus
11 days ago

A friend of mine had a GTA in that same color with those wheels back in the mid ’90s. It was a weird spec from an old lady (literally)—305 with auto—but a great looking car and it was mint.

Hazdazos
Hazdazos
11 days ago

I don’t mind the rims. I have similar ones on my ’64 Riviera. Big difference is that mine aren’t chrome and instead are painted grey. Plus on my car it’s dropped more so they’re more tucked in. The fitment on this Pontiac is OK but could use a little work. I am not a stickler for making old cars look original, but have some style. Like in this case a stock steering wheel would look 1000x better than the one they picked. Ugh old classless boomer style.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
11 days ago
Reply to  Hazdazos

I know that they were not offered on the GTO or any tempest, but that era of Pontiac really looks the best on eight lug Kelsey Hayes wheels.

Sure they are drum brakes- the wheel is the brake- but they are very good drum brakes.

Hazdazos
Hazdazos
10 days ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

I had to Google those wheels since I wasn’t familiar with them. If it’s the ones that came up, they are pretty interesting. A couple were painted black and some were gold. Not sure what I think about having my wheels be my drum brakes though. Buick had the best drum brakes in the business in my opinion. They had gorgeous aluminum drums that were so popular lots of hot rodders used them in their rigs were the drums were very visible.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
9 days ago
Reply to  Hazdazos

The Pontiac wheels were pretty neat because the aluminum drum and fins were right out in the airflow.
Much more practical than Bugatti wheels where the if you changed the tire you were changing the brake trim as well because the wheel was all one piece.

Stacks
Stacks
11 days ago

I’ll give you $45k cash, but I’m gonna need you to throw in 5 new wheels.

Stacks
Stacks
11 days ago
Reply to  Stacks

I kinda like the silly mirror, I gotta admit

Paul E
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Paul E
11 days ago

Just think how many extra thousands of dollars it’ll take to un-pimp ze ride. Great color, but for the rest of it, the only taste the previous owner had was (maybe) in their mouth.

Peter Spinale
Peter Spinale
11 days ago
Reply to  Paul E

I think the technical term is “un-boomer”..

Cerberus
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Cerberus
11 days ago
Reply to  Peter Spinale

I think that’s de-boomer, a verb, as in to de-boomer the poor old muscle car of excess chrome and flames to return it to stock. I’m thinking un-boomer would follow “un-cola” as a noun coined by the marketing team for 7-Up and would be a noun used for something that would be expected to be defiled in a typical boomer manner, but surprisingly isn’t or possibly something that’s repellant to stereotype boomers like a Japanese car with fuel injection or comedy without a laugh track.

Peter Spinale
Peter Spinale
8 days ago
Reply to  Cerberus

Yes, the process would definitely be “deboomer”..

Emil Minty
Emil Minty
11 days ago

Foose (or Foose-style) wheels ruin everything.

https://youtu.be/BIdPjqlF9P4?si=WxIJc98q6TW3gXyH

Emil Minty
Emil Minty
11 days ago
Reply to  Emil Minty

“How can a wheel look like it’s about to mansplain something to me?”

RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
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RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
10 days ago
Reply to  Emil Minty

“Foosball (Foosewheels) is the devil!”
-Water Boy

MondialMatt
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MondialMatt
11 days ago

“More sidewall! And we’re out of peanuts,” I shout from the gallery.

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
11 days ago
Reply to  MondialMatt

“More Sidewall” would make an excellent T shirt.

Howie
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Howie
11 days ago

Color is cool, but can I get a discount as wheel/tire combo-yuck. Steering wheel? Worse than yuck. Paid for, not built, by a Harley guy

Hugh Crawford
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Hugh Crawford
11 days ago
Reply to  Howie

A nice Nardi wheel would be good. Nardi made some wheels with a black plastic – maybe Micarta? – rather than wood rim that was stock on some Maseratis in the 60s.

This icky thing looks like it came off some some farm equipment. Doesn’t that aluminum burn the hands?
If you are really into the farm tractor steering wheel look, Rolls Royce did it better.

TheDrunkenWrench
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TheDrunkenWrench
11 days ago

I’ve never seen the appeal to those steering wheels.

I’m sure a prospective buyer could haggle a different helm on an otherwise near perfect car.

Rad Barchetta
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Rad Barchetta
11 days ago

Imagine how hot that steering wheel can get. Make sure to park it in the shade at Cars & Coffee.
Those wheels have Chip Foose written all over them.

Last edited 11 days ago by Rad Barchetta
MAX FRESH OFF
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MAX FRESH OFF
11 days ago

The rearview mirror with the chrome flames on the sides is somehow even worse.

Peter Spinale
Peter Spinale
11 days ago
Reply to  MAX FRESH OFF

Straight to jail! This was a boomer.. and I say that as a boomer.. Someone should have stopped us.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
11 days ago
Reply to  Peter Spinale

We’ve been trying to stop you motherfuckers since you were new parents ignoring us as we jammed forks in wall sockets.

Y’all got the best of everything, pulled up the ladder, and then broke the world.

Thanks mom & dad.

Peter Spinale
Peter Spinale
8 days ago
Reply to  Dan Roth

“forks in sockets” lol that’s funny because my kid got sent home from school because after being scolded for touching the electrical conduit in the cafeteria he told the teacher “it fine, the electricity is safely inside”..
Technically I’m a “Jones”, but that’s a recent descriptor.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
8 days ago
Reply to  Peter Spinale

What kind of psychopath teacher scolds a kid for touching the conduit? Might as well put a big sandwich board around your neck: “I’m an idiot in a position of authority without any knowledge of how the world works.”

Peter Spinale
Peter Spinale
7 days ago
Reply to  Dan Roth

That was at the “good” school, he got expelled from Kindergarten at the first one. I agreed not to sue and the Austin Independent School District let me choose another one. To be fair my kid was a handful, but so are some teachers. lol
I became a super parent, volunteering for every field trip and cafeteria monitoring etc. The principal was a good guy and excellent at his job, rough bunch of years, but really solidified my relationship with my son.

Howie
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Howie
11 days ago
Reply to  MAX FRESH OFF

Missed that, was distracted by the steering wheel. Maybe came as a set like bathroom fixtures

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