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Five Years Ago, I Bought My Childhood Dream Bus And It Was The Biggest Mistake I’ve Ever Made

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Time does a lot to a person. You get older, usually more experienced, and hopefully a little wiser. You learn your limits and your skills. Mistakes you made in the past are finally laid bare. My biggest automotive mistake was blindly following my childhood dream and buying a cheap variant of the iconic GMC RTS-II transit bus. I was perhaps the happiest person in the world five years ago, but today, I must admit defeat. I should never have purchased this bus, and now I must send it to a new home before it’s too late.

I suppose I’ve never been a typical car enthusiast. When I was a teen, my classmates talked about Ford Mustangs, Chevy Camaros, and the Ferrari of the week. I talked about Smart Fortwos, cargo vans, and buses. Some of my fondest memories in school were listening to the growl of the big block V8 that powered the GMC school buses I rode in, and the International DT466E engines that powered those buses I rode in. When I was in fifth grade and was given an exercise to make an imaginary budget, I imagined myself owning a Ford F-350, not because it was a pickup truck, but because it was yellow and had a large diesel engine.

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In 2021, I achieved what was a childhood dream. For as long as I could remember, I adored the domineering transit buses of General Motors, particularly the New Look and the RTS-II. I loved the genuine innovation baked into these buses, and thought they were the coolest-looking transit vehicles in the world. So, when an opportunity to buy an RTS derivative for only $5,500 presented itself in 2021, I took it. I went in without a real plan. I just wanted the bus.

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Now, I have it. I had some fun with my bus, and it was the member of the fleet that I was the most attached to that wasn’t a Smart, Saturn Sky, or Suzuki RE-5. But the fear that was at the back of my mind became reality. I was ill-equipped to take care of this bus from the start. I remain in that position today. It’s taken a long time, but I must admit defeat and let go before it’s too late. So, I’m saying goodbye to the bus that I probably shouldn’t have bought in the first place.

How I Got GM’s Legendary Bus

I’ve written about the history of the RTS pretty extensively. Click here for some history. Otherwise, I’m going to skip to how I even got an RTS.

My love for transit buses was an extension of my love for school buses. I’ve always lived in places with lousy public transit, so I never took an RTS-II while it was still in service. Instead, I discovered the RTS-II through books and video media. Kid me thought school buses were awesome, but transit buses? I thought those were the apex of buses. At the top of my list was the New Look, possibly from watching Speed, and tied with that was the RTS-II, the bus of the future.

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As luck, or fate, would have it, one of the last operators of the RTS series was Texas A&M University (TAMU). The university runs a transit system that it calls Aggie Spirit, and something that’s pretty neat about Aggie Spirit is that the bus drivers are students. TAMU offers paid training for a commercial license, and then you get to drive TAMU buses, hauling other students along the line. I am one of the only non-TAMU alumni members of a TAMU bus driver group, and I love it because the bus operators are so tight-knit. These lovely people found camaraderie in driving big buses.

TAMU’s bus fleet was also unique in that it used to be full of Nova Bus RTS-06-series units. However, by 2020, the youngest of these buses was 18 years old. TAMU began auctioning these buses off on GovDeals, and soon enough, the buses began spreading out all over Texas. Many of those who bought the old buses were the students who drove them when they were in school. Sadly, I didn’t know about the auctions until after I bought my bus.

Anyway, I saw my bus for sale on Facebook for the princely sum of $6,000. I negotiated the guy, a former TAMU student, down to $5,500. Then, Sheryl and I piled into her Chevy HHR and sped 1,200 miles south to a location just outside of Austin.

A Dream Made Reality

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My heart raced when I saw my bus for the first time. So many thoughts were going through my mind. A part of me wanted to back out at the last second. This was crazy! It’s one thing to buy a cheap diesel Volkswagen Jetta in Wisconsin; it’s an entirely different game to buy an entire 35-foot transit bus. Deep down, I knew I had no business buying this bus. I didn’t have a CDL, I had to convince Liberty Mutual to insure the thing, and my license plate was a paper temporary plate I got from the state of Vermont after I pinky-swore the bus was totally an RV. I hadn’t even driven a transit bus at that point in my life.

But that childhood dream powered through my doubts. I gave the seller his cash, hopped in the Recaro air seat, switched on the air-conditioner, and hit the road. I was in love. I quickly discovered that, due to its cab-forward design, my bus turned on a dime compared to a school bus. Between the air seat and the air suspension, it was supremely comfortable, too. The air conditioner is the best I’ve experienced in a vehicle to date. The air was so strong that it frosted my windows over on a hot Texas day that was well over 100 degrees. I had to open the windows to keep myself from freezing. I even saw my breath!

My bus is powered by a Detroit Diesel Series 50, a massive 8.5-liter turbocharged four-cylinder making at least 250 horsepower, and it’s paired with a five-speed ZF 5HP592C automatic. But the coolest part may have been the top speed. Many transit buses are geared to go no faster than 45 mph or 55 mph. However, TAMU used these buses on higher speed services, so the Aggie Novas cruised at highway speed without breaking a sweat.

Immediate Cracks

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I wrote about my experience driving the bus 1,200 miles home for Jalopnik back in 2021. Honestly, the red flags appeared immediately. From that piece:

Unfortunately, not all appears to be well with this unit. Only a few miles into our drive home and the low oil pressure alarm started blaring at about 70 mph. That was odd, as the seller never mentioned anything about low oil pressure and even showed that it passed an independent inspection.

It was 98 degrees in Austin that day, so we thought that maybe the heat was too much for the speed I wanted to go. To make matters worse, the ECU’s programming shuts the engine down if it reads low oil pressure for too long. The bus stranded itself and blocked traffic for a while. I later discovered an engine overrule switch that overrides the engine protection system and keeps the engine running.

Sadly, I’d spend much of the trip hitting that button as the oil pressure warning would come on at completely random times, but only at speeds above 60 mph, and temperature didn’t really matter.

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My bus is a thing of mystery. I was told by TAMU drivers that the buses are electronically limited to 62 mph. Yet, mine hits 70 mph just fine before hitting the limiter. Sometimes, I saw a GPS-claimed 75 mph (70 mph indicated) before the limiter kicked in. Nobody could explain why my bus was much faster than it should have been. One of my good friends is a heavy diesel mechanic, and his best guess is that, at some point in the past, the ECU was replaced with one that wasn’t meant for my bus.

TAMU’s maintenance department was kind and sent me the entire service history for the bus. It was over 900 pages long and featured entries including several transmission overheating events, an engine overhaul, air suspension replacement, and a million other things. For over five years, I never really figured out why my bus was so fast, and just considered the extra speed as a nice perk.

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As for the oil pressure warning indication, I did find out the sensor was bad. But I had never pressure-tested the bus, so I didn’t know how much oil pressure the engine actually makes. There was enough pressure for a cross-country road trip, but I don’t know the actual number. Maybe I was too scared to find out.

What I can say is that oil analysis showed a shocking amount of lead, but no other wear metals in the coach’s oil. I would later join a Facebook chat that just so happened to have the previous owner of my bus in it. The chat’s records indicated that the bus was giving low-pressure warnings for almost a year before I bought it, and the warnings were one of the motivating factors for TAMU to dump the bus. The previous owner knew about the issue because, as the chat logs showed, it worried him when he owned the bus. He never disclosed the issue to me.

But again, I was so deeply in love with my bus that I ignored the red flags. I didn’t even ask the guy why he hid the oil issue from me. To paraphrase the show BoJack Horseman, “When you look at a bus through rose-colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags.”

My Dream Meets Reality

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But things were good for a while. I initially bought the bus for an RV conversion. But then I figured out that I don’t have the skill or the time to build my own RV. The dirty secret is that a decent DIY RV conversion could take you half of a decade, and that’s if you’re investing all of your free time into it. I also learned that my bus was sort of a rare-ish piece of history. Most RTS end up scrapped or turned into an RV, so I had an opportunity to preserve one as it was in service in 2020.

So, I did that. I didn’t change a thing. Instead, I sometimes drove the bus to the beach and back, sort of treating it like it was a Corvette. Amusingly, if I happened to stop the bus at a light that was beside a bus stop, sometimes people would try to board. It’s weird because the Illinois Pace bus system uses vastly different, much newer buses with a very blue paint scheme. I’m not sure why folks thought I was a bus that was in service.

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My dream finally met reality in roughly 2022 when law enforcement kindly suggested that having a Vermont license plate and an Illinois address wasn’t kosher in this state, and should a cop think something was a bit too goofy, they could order the bus impounded. Sure, I might be able to get the citations dismissed, but I would still be on the hook for the towing and storage fees, which wouldn’t be cheap for such a huge vehicle.

Until summer 2023, Vermont registered any bus as an RV without proof of a conversion, and happily sent the license plates anywhere in America. The so-called “Vermont Registration Loophole” was a lifeline for people who bought old school buses to turn into RVs, but needed to legally drive them home from the auction or from the seller. Then, you just turned the Vermont registration into your DMV and got a shiny RV plate from your home state. This didn’t work for me because by the time I tried to do this, the secret about the Vermont loophole was out.

Illinois requires a moderate RV conversion before issuing similar plates. I also needed a license in the correct weight class. Illinois is not like many states in that an RV plate is a loophole out of weight class requirements. While Illinois doesn’t require you to get a CDL to drive an RV, it does require you to upgrade your license’s class. In my case, I’d need a Class B.

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The batteries of doom.

Truth be told, I always knew this was the risk with going all in on Vermont. Yes, Vermont was willing to mail license plates and registration to anyone living in any part of America, but your mileage always varied. You might get away with a Vermont plate on a Toyota Corolla, but a big white old transit bus sort of sticks out. But again, rosy shades.

So, I parked the bus until I could figure out my next steps. Obviously, I needed to fix the license issue. I don’t have any local friends with a Class B or better who could drive the bus to the testing station. But also, I needed it to be registered in Illinois, too, which was another can of worms. Ultimately, I just kept kicking the can down the road. Other things kept taking priority, from work to dealing with what was then my wife’s cancer diagnosis.

Way In Over My Head

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This is the access door for the coolant fill and rear engine controller. It’s held on with rubber.

Then, I realized that just taking care of the bus was darn near impossible for a single person. Unlike the transit bus, my school bus felt like a pickup truck that was scaled up by a factor of five. It had somewhat pickup-like hydraulic brakes, a big ol’ pickup-like alternator, leaf springs, and an engine and transmission that could be serviced by one person with an adjustable hammer. Working on the school bus felt like working on a pickup, only everything was bigger. Even parts weren’t that expensive. It even took two cheap car batteries from Walmart.

The transit bus, on the other hand, is like working on a space shuttle. For starters, there is no key. The bus is technically always active, and you start it by turning a dial and flicking a switch. Because of this, the bus will drain its batteries after only a week of sitting unless you disconnect the batteries. The bus has a tray of batteries that, combined, weigh more than I do, and a pair of compatible batteries costs more than $1,000.

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You think your car has a lot of warning lights? My bus’s bank of warning lights looks like a disco floor.

The bus is computerized, and all warning indication is done through lights, a beeper, and a buzzer. If I want to check diagnostic codes, I have to put in a darned Konami Code to enter diagnostic mode and then count each beep to determine the check engine code.

Then there’s everything else, from the air brakes and air suspension to the jungle in the engine bay. This bus is too much for one person to handle. I’ve been told that transit operators tend to have crews for this, and those folks have education and certification, so they know what they’re doing. I’m one person working outside in gravel. Don’t even ask about any parts, as parts are both hard to find and are often ludicrously expensive. Heavy diesel mechanics aren’t cheap, either.

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This door is forever on the ground because the rubber hinge failed.

I didn’t even get around to replacing this deteriorated baggage door hinge. The 5-foot section of rubber alone was $55. GM made its hinges entirely out of rubber, and over time, this rubber becomes as hard as a rock, ultimately causing a baggage door failure. Replacing the rubber hinge involves chiseling and grinding the old rubber out, and then fighting to fit the new rubber into place. You might wonder why I haven’t shown pictures of the battery tray, and honestly, it’s because I don’t trust that the hinge rubber will hold together.

It has taken me two, maybe three years to admit this, but this bus is way beyond my pay grade. I was in over my head years ago, but I was too stubborn and too in love to admit it. Honestly, this seems to be the curse of any coach bus or transit bus that falls into private hands. Many private owners figure out the hard way that these beautiful buses are a full-time commitment. It really takes watching only one Bus Grease Monkey video to figure that one out.

Time To Pass On My Dream

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So, I have to admit defeat and rehome the bus. I took terrible care of this thing, and it needs a better home than the one I can provide. It’s taken me a long time to get here, but it is the correct conclusion. Technically, I should have never purchased the bus in the first place. Now, I fear that I reached this conclusion too late. But I guess, at least, it didn’t take me decades to get to this point.

I am offering the bus entirely for free to any museum that wants it. I have already contacted the Illinois Railway Museum and the Midwest Bus Museum. IRM’s bus department doesn’t have the resources to take on my bus right now, and MBM hasn’t responded to my inquiry yet. The bus is a piece of history that deserves to be preserved.

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Mercedes Streeter

 

However, I won’t lie, my bus is not a perfect candidate. It hasn’t been started in a couple of years. So, right off the bat, it’s going to need new batteries. Then, who knows what the condition of the air system will be once the bus is running. That assumes it even starts. Then, that unresolved issue with the oil pressure warning indication remains. The bus also had a knack for blowing a lot of black smoke when under load. What I’m saying is that the bus has over 400,000 miles, and it’s probably pretty tired.

My hope is that there is a museum that’s somewhere, anywhere, that wants a free bus to add to their collection. I’d rather see this bus saved as a time capsule than turned into scrap. I’d also give the bus to a collector for free. But if all else fails, I suppose I’ll toss it to the unwashed masses of Facebook Marketplace and see what happens.

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Despite the top graphic, I don’t think I regret buying the bus, though I’m convinced that I shouldn’t have bought it. But I did, and I had a thrilling time with the bus while the good times lasted. I drove it basically across the country, narrowly missed a tornado, and provided a guiding light for travelers stuck in a torrential downpour. The bus put smiles on people’s faces, and driving the bus gave me some of the last trips I took with my beloved late chihuahua, Malört (above).

I get to keep the photos and all of those memories for as long as I remember them. I also get to say that I owned my dream transit bus. I mean, how many regular people can say they’ve ever owned a whole operational city bus? But I am not the person to own this bus. I got to live my dream, now I must let go. If you know of anyone or any museum that might want my bus, comment them down below, or have them email me at mercedes@theautopian.com.

All photos by Mercedes Streeter

Top graphic image: Mercedes Streeter

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NaanProphet
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NaanProphet
2 months ago

Mercedes,
As a bus driver in the Seattle area if you’re ever out this way I can arrange you a drive in one of our buses. We have some cool stuff including hydrogen powered and articulated buses

Mike S
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Mike S
2 months ago

You might want to contact the Museum of Bus Transportation at the AACA Museum in Hershey, PA to see if they are interested.

Jim Zavist
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Jim Zavist
2 months ago

The National Museum of Transportation may be interested (suburban St Louis) – https://tnmot.org/

Jim Zavist
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Jim Zavist
2 months ago
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Professor Chorls
Professor Chorls
2 months ago

I briefly wanted a slinky bus (the 60 foot/20 meter three axle ones) to make some kind of extra long car-hauler type thing with a lot of living space. Maybe some day when I have literally infinite money.

JJ
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JJ
2 months ago

Slinky bus: for the person considering buying a normal transit bus but looking for even more hassle.

JJ
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JJ
2 months ago

Next project?

Luxrage
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Luxrage
2 months ago

Seems like with these projects you really need some land where you can slap a small house or trailer home on and slowly pick away at your projects! That’s my dream at least, even if I’d have to resort to just having a big car-port instead of a barn to work on stuff.

Raymond
Raymond
2 months ago

As YoungMC would say “BUS-TED”

Dolsh
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Dolsh
2 months ago

Being able to say you bought your dream bus is a pretty awesome thing to be able to say. Even if it is in past tense.

Tyler Durden
Tyler Durden
2 months ago

The older I get, the more I hate being my own mechanic for both modern and old vehicles. There’s a lot of comfort knowing that I can limp mf 2008 F-150 to a nearby mechanic and the truck can be easily diagnosed and repaired. By someone else.

Geo Metro Mike
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Geo Metro Mike
2 months ago

What a joy to say you own a transit bus! When I left RTD they started auctioning their fleet of 2000 Orions. If I had the cash at the time I would’ve got one without even thinking about storage or repairs. I loved those busses. Got to ride in them for years and finally got to experience my dream of driving them. Hope this one ends up in a nice home.

1978fiatspyderfan
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1978fiatspyderfan
2 months ago

I think there’s better buses to convert and don’t have issues.

Mad Island Guy
Mad Island Guy
2 months ago

Ooh! Ooh! Sell it to me!

Mad Island Guy
Mad Island Guy
2 months ago

I am definitely interested. Can I take a look at it some time?

Mad Island Guy
Mad Island Guy
2 months ago

I’d be careful about wording it that way. Someone could take it for a joyride and really wreak some carnage and cause you endless grief if it’s in your name or, alternatively, a scrapper might just grab it.

Mad Island Guy
Mad Island Guy
2 months ago

I sent you a message to your Autopian e-mail with my contact info. I’d like to talk with you offline about the bus.

Mad Island Guy
Mad Island Guy
2 months ago

Since you didn’t respond to the e-mail I sent to your Autopian account I’m going to assume you either found a different home for the bus or decided to keep it.

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Birk
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Birk
2 months ago

My two favorite quotes in the article: “I’m not sure why folks thought I was a bus that was in service” and “adjustable hammer.” Really ties the Autopian room together!

I “inherited” a “free” sailboat in 2019. I drove over 1300 miles each way to get it, spent over $1200 fixing it and the trailer (probably closer to $1500 now), spend $900/year to store it, and have sailed it exactly once. Great intentions and sentimental connection, but life (and a newer more usable sailboat) keep tripping me up.

What’s with the new, sensible leaf being turned by these Autopian authors?! I really should follow Mercedes’ lead, but storage fees aren’t due for another 6 months…

Cheap Bastard
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Cheap Bastard
2 months ago
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Age and experience can do that to people.

FormerTXJeepGuy
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FormerTXJeepGuy
2 months ago

Its from A&M, thats the problem. Solve it with fire.

Fix It Again Tony
Fix It Again Tony
2 months ago

Here’s hoping you can write off your bus donation on your taxes this year.

Canopysaurus
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Canopysaurus
2 months ago

Too much magic bus.

StillNotATony
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StillNotATony
2 months ago

DT sold his J10 and K1500.

Mercedes is getting rid of her bus.

I SWEARTAGAWD if Torch announces he’s getting rid of either his Pao or the Citroën, I will do something unspeakable.

#keepautopianweird

StillNotATony
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StillNotATony
2 months ago
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Option 2:

1. Gut the bus down to a shell.

2. Sell the drivetrain, axels, everything except a weather tight shell. Leave the driver’s seat and steering wheel for sitting in and making bus noises.

3. Build a door and a ramp through the former engine compartment.

4. You now have an enclosed place to store your motorcycles and probably a convertible or two!

Birk
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Birk
2 months ago
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StillNotAPlaceToParkIt

JJ
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JJ
2 months ago
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is it really “parking” once it loses the engine and all the other bits it would need to ever move again? I think at that point it’s more “installing” it.

Cody Pendant
Cody Pendant
2 months ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

This is exactly what I was going to say

The Bishop's Brother
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The Bishop's Brother
2 months ago
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I don’t see torch giving up the Citroen, and if he did, I’d do a lot to keep it within the local community of 2CVs here where we both live

Alpscarver
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Alpscarver
2 months ago

Recommendation is to compensate the loss of the bus with the addition of another Smart.

StillNotATony
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StillNotATony
2 months ago

You’re getting a dump truck, aren’t you.

JJ
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JJ
2 months ago
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I just thought to myself “hey I actually could have my own cherry picker.” Thanks Mercedes…

AllCattleNoHat
AllCattleNoHat
2 months ago

I think the most surprising thing about this story is that you didn’t go to Vermont or somewhere else, rent a PO Box, and then take a driver’s license test there in order to drive it legally. Well, the driving would be legal except for the fact that you generally need to actuallly be licensed in your state of primary residence.

I rode these buses back when they were new-ish in Los Angeles when I was a teenager. They were overlapping with the old New Looks at the time and boy did these suck for the rider. The AC was weak in the first series and often didn’t work. Not good when it’s 100 out and the windows don’t open. The seats were hard, the bus rode horribly (sort of like an empty F-350 with tires at 100PSI over expansion joints on the Dan Ryan), and if anything rattled even more than the New Looks.

It was a HUGE upgrade when the RTD threw in the G.M. towel around 1984 and started buying Neoplan low floors en masse. Finally out of the transit bus dark ages with something that worked, was quiet, powerful, comfortable, with good ventilation and apparently quite reliable.

There’s a reason why old transit buses are cheap to buy. The same reason old luxury cars are cheap to buy. They may be cheap now but the service and maintenance isn’t cheap or easy just because they are old, did you ever price out a set of tires?

I hope you get out of it, if for nothing else than your own sake. As you get older you’ll realize it’s quite insane how this country allows minimally trained individuals to simply drive around the country in old transit buses, old school buses, 26foot U-Hauls with car hauler trailers weighing in at whatever is possible to jam in the back and then tow whatever fits on the trailer, and all kinds of other stuff when they’ve generally barely had the driver’s education to semi-competently handle a five year old Corolla and nothing ever has to be inspected in most place. It’s no wonder insurance rates are so high, driving really should be treated as the privelege it really is rather than the right it is assumed to be…

Good luck!

JJ
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JJ
2 months ago
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That’s a pretty good perspective to keep in mind: if transit authorities are dumping them because they can’t handle the maintenance despite their teams of mechanics and techs…maybe I’m gonna have some trouble here.

AllCattleNoHat
AllCattleNoHat
2 months ago

And soon the future/present will become the past. Eventually. Maybe. Hopefully…

90sBuicksAreUnderrated
90sBuicksAreUnderrated
2 months ago

Hey, good on you for recognizing that it’s too much and getting out before you’re in any deeper. You’re absolutely correct that these things just aren’t practical for a normie to own, even a gearhead. To even try to DIY maintenance, you’d have to have crazy mechanical skills, an incredible, borderline professional shop setup at home and a ridiculous amount of free time. Even then it would be incredibly expensive. Or if you had beaucoup bucks maybe you could pay someone to care for it. I’d imagine even then, it’d be a pain in the ass to find a place that could properly service it. I’d bet that parts are getting harder to find and major maintenance items are coming due if it has practically 400K miles.

It’s awfully kind of you to offer it up to a museum for free, but I wouldn’t feel any guilt if you don’t get any interest and need to sell it to someone wanting to do a RV conversion or even a scrapper. Your happiness and security are more important than preserving an inanimate object that demands practically endless time and resources. Best of luck.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
2 months ago

That diagnostic sounds similar to OBD1. Worst case, could you donate it to Kars for Kids? J/K, do not reward that jingle. Then again, it may be more trouble for them to deal with than it’s worth.

The Mark
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The Mark
2 months ago
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We had a 1984 RV that eventually demanded more in repairs than it was worth. We donated it to a Veteran’s charity, although we did have to pay for the towing. But we got the write-off and the charity hopefully got a little money. I’m sure they just scrapped it or parted it out.
I’m glad the holidays are over so I don’t have to see that Kars for Kids ad anymore.

Cerberus
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Cerberus
2 months ago
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I assume most donations get scrapped since they pretty much ask for vehicles that are end of life or close to it whenever I hear or see ads for any charity that takes donated vehicles. Besides the obnoxious jingle, I don’t like Kars for Kids because they’re misleading. Sure, they don’t lie about what they are, but they don’t specify, either, and I’m sure they know most people will assume it’s for kids’ medical care, afterschool programs, toys or food for poor kids, whatever, but it’s largely just paying for kids to attend a religious school. I’d be fine with that if they were clear about it, but they aren’t and I find that intentional obfuscation distasteful even if I get that they wouldn’t be nearly as successful if they were upfront.

The Mark
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The Mark
2 months ago
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I didn’t know that, and I’m glad you shared the info. Now I like them even less. They can take their catchy yet annoying jingle and shove it!

JJ
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JJ
2 months ago
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Yup. If you look at their materials you’ll notice every single girl is wearing a dress and almost all have their elbows covered. IYKYK.

I’ll also add it’s not just a religious group but a fundamentalist religious group with positions on social issues most people would find objectionable. Of course their website is super vague about what they actually do/teach since they know spelling it out would be so off-putting. And, I agree that all that is fine, but it’s the (intentional) deception and obfuscation that is problematic.

10001010
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10001010
2 months ago

Look at all that room inside! I wonder how many kittens could be born in that bus?

DNF
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DNF
2 months ago
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Turns out cats can get pregnant when they’re pregnant, so the math gets stunning!

Tbird
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Tbird
2 months ago

Sometimes I wish I were not so financially conservative, take a risk on a project car/toy. Been wanting to for years – but life always seems to get in the way. I’ve passed on too many potential candidates in the 5k range.

Really No Regrets
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Really No Regrets
2 months ago

Hope the bus finds a great new home, Mercedes.

4moremazdas
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4moremazdas
2 months ago

I think you made out just fine, even if you end up just getting scrap value for it. $5k may be a lot of money, but not many people live out their childhood dreams at all, especially not for such a bargain. I’m sure it’s disappointing to not build it out into a camper, but it seems like driving it as it was in its glory in transit bus form was really the dream and you’ve checked that box.

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