Good morning! Today we’re looking at cars from two dead GM brands that will have you asking, “Why couldn’t they have killed off Buick instead?” They’re not very similar cars, but they both represent what each of their brands did best.
Yesterday, we looked at a couple of little stickshift stuff-haulers, one that’s a secret Toyota and one that’s a secret Mitsubishi. It’s hard to beat something with as much Corolla DNA in it as that Geo has, and I figured it would take the win. Early-mid 1990s Corollas and Prizms might just be the best cheap beaters out there, as long as you can avoid rust.


But I’ve already had that Prizm’s predecessor (a 1987 Nova hatch) and successor (a 1995 Corolla), so I would choose the Eagle Summit, just for a different experience. Besides, it’s purple, one of the few car colors I’ve never owned.
The full list of General Motors brand names is an eye-opener, even if you think you know them all. Some are barely remembered at all, while others are still mourned by fans to this day. Oldsmobile’s demise in 2004 was an especially hard pill to swallow, considering it began in 1897, and made a name for itself in performance car circles several times. And poor Saturn, begun as a completely independent arm of GM to build “A Different Kind Of Car,” eventually ended up as another exercise in badge-engineering before falling victim to the post-bankruptcy reorganization. Today, we’re going to look at one of each division’s greatest hits. Here they are.
1988 Oldsmobile Toronado – $3,650

Engine/drivetrain: 3.8-liter overhead valve V6, four-speed automatic, FWD
Location: Pahrump, NV
Odometer reading: 113,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
The Oldsmobile Toronado lasted twenty-six years, and never varied from its mission as a cool, stylish front-wheel-drive personal luxury coupe. It gave the middle finger to the malaise era, weathered the Brougham years with more dignity than a lot of other cars, and bowed out before Oldsmobile had a chance to ruin the formula. This final-generation Toronado is a sleek, trim, and highly underrated car.

The original Toronado broke the mold with its front-wheel-drive design, but by the time this one was built, most cars were FWD. It shares its platform with the full-size H-body sedans, including its Buick 3800 V6 and 4T60 automatic transmission. It’s a proven drivetrain with a reputation for durability and reliability. This one has had only one owner, who kept it in excellent condition until they passed away recently. It has only 113,000 miles on it, and it runs and drives great.

It looks practically new inside; someone really did take care of this car. 1988 was right in the middle of GM’s “Button Era” of interior design. Look at all those tiny square buttons on the stereo and HVAC system. The fancier Trofeo model of the Toronado used a CRT touchscreen like its Buick Riviera cousin, but personally I’d rather have the buttons. I also love that basket-handle shifter. If you must have an automatic, you should at least have a cool way to put it in gear.

I’ve always liked the style of this era Toronado; it’s well-proportioned and a good size. And I don’t think I’ve ever seen one with a landau top, like so many Rivieras and Cadillac Eldorados of this era had. The hidden headlights are also a nice touch. This one is as clean and shiny as you could hope for, but the aftermarket wire wheels don’t do it any favors, in my view. Your mileage may vary, of course.
2001 Saturn SW2 – $2,200

Engine/drivetrain: 1.9-liter dual overhead cam inline 4, four-speed automatic, FWD
Location: Riverside, CA
Odometer reading: 171,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
Fun fact: Saturn was founded on the day I turned twelve, January 7, 1985. It was created as a completely separate company from General Motors, with its own car designs, its own factory, its own dealers – everything. This bold idea built up a lot of expectations for the cars, which finally arrived for the 1991 model year, and as it turns out, they were pretty good. The basic design was refined over two generations and eleven years before being replaced with the Ion, which marked the end of Saturn’s independence from the GM mothership.

The second-generation S series came in three body styles and two trim levels. This is an SW2, meaning S series, Wagon, level 2. It has Saturn’s 1.9 liter twin-cam “Power Module” (why they couldn’t just call it an engine, I don’t know) and a four-speed automatic. Saturn engines and transmissions proved to be reliable, if a bit thrashy and prone to oil consumption. This one has 171,000 miles, and the seller says it’s a strong runner that just passed a smog test.

Saturn interiors are, let’s say, uninspiring but functional. This one looks pretty good inside, and since it’s an SW2, it has all the power goodies that were available. The cloth seats are in good shape, and everything is nice and clean. Having owned a Saturn SC1 from this era, though, I can practically feel that cheap Fisher-Price grade plastic through this photo.

The wagon is far and away the best of the three Saturn body styles. The coupe has terrible outward visibility, and the sedan is boring. The wagon looks a little funky, because it uses the same rear doors as the sedan, but it’s distinctive-looking, and practical. I find it amusing that the seller mentions that it has no dings or dents; of course it doesn’t. It’s a Saturn. All the vertical body surfaces are plastic, and bounce back if you hit them.
I suppose the behemoth that was General Motors in the mid 2000s was too big to sustain itself without shedding some brands, but Oldsmobile was always cooler than Buick, and Saturn was really on to something for a while. These were both good cars that deserved proper successors, but it wasn’t meant to be. But hey, we still have these two. So what do you think – personal luxury coupe, or efficient little wagon?
Olds.
There are enough corner wheel and tire shops in Vegas (just over the hill from Pahrump) that you could not only swap out the tacky spokes for a proper set of alloys, but also swing some name brand rubber for near even money.
With that, the bulletproof drivetrain, the vastly superior aesthetics (I’m nominally 100% pro wagon, but those curved door frames kill the G2 Saturns for me) and my advanced age leave me with little choice but to choose the luxocoupe.
Both? The best car our family ever had was an 88 Bonneville with that powertrain. 350k+ miles. But I love those Saturns. Stick would have been better, but even the auto was fine enough. Now that my wife’s grandparents are deceased, I can openly admit that when my wife and I were dating, we did donuts on the beach at Oceano in the Old folks’ SL2, and generally hooned it. Good times.
“It … bowed out before Oldsmobile had a chance to ruin the formula.”
And yet – The Toro shown is the one that ruined the formula.
Nobody wanted to spend $30K on a car that looked like the $15K car (Cutlass Calais) across the showroom floor.
If the Saturn was a stick this would be a fight but the Olds takes it all day. Is it dumb I really want to turn one of these Olds into a rally car?
Saturn. Because wagon.
BTW, Toronado was around much more than just 26 years…
Nope.
Toronado’s first year was 1966 – last year was 1992.
That’s 26 model years.
God damn it.
Somehow my brain saw 2004 for the death of Olds and transposed that onto the Toro.
Yes – The Toro died an early death.
Because of that ill-proportioned, oddly styled, badge-engineered, poorly-accessorized crapwagon pictured right up there.
Olds. I like PLCs, this can be fixed by an orangutan, and the condition is impressive. Those Saturns were simple, cheap to run, and rugged, but uninspiring. A great cheap beater, but I would actually want to cruise along in the Olds. Color’s not my pick, but at least it’s a color and, as an old man mobile, one might as well lean into it.
I’d prefer the Tornado after a test of DNA molecules left in it. After all Parhump is a notorious prostitute town. But a wagon for $1,200 less and 13 years younger just can’t be passed up.
My daughter had a Saturn Coupe of that vintage. The engine was smooth as sandpaper. Olds for sure.
I daily drove a 2000 SL1 sedan (base model, SOHC, manual) for 15 years and 244,000 miles.
Clearly the Saturn is the answer here.
The Olds speaks to me, to the point that I genuinely like it. Would 110% go with that. I’ve spent a fair bit of time driving/riding in that vintage SL2 and liked it quite a bit but it looses this time.
I like both, but gotta go Olds…I miss Oldsmobile! Plus it’s a Toronado…obviously the OG ones are better: the design and legendary w/ how the drivetrain is setup. I’ve never been much into Saturns but I’ve grown a little more fond of them and they are still unique just like the company was. I would have a lot more fun w/ the Olds
Voted Saturn based on nostalgia. I learned to drive in my parents’ automatic ‘95 SL1 and owned a ‘95 SL2 with a stick in college. The first one burned oil like nobody’s business but was reliable and amazing on gas. My SL2 was better on oil and more fun with its 25 extra hp from the twin cam motor. ‘95 was the best year in my opinion. They had the original body but the updated interior – the best of both worlds. Although I wouldn’t kick a ‘97 coupe or this wagon out of my garage.
Toronado. All day long.
I have a soft spot for Saturns…as a porter at a Toyota dealership circa 2004/2005, we got these in used. They drove nice, were peppy, and I love a cult classic.
But that Toro. Its a great example of a relatively hated car in its day that has aged better than it has a right to. And it is a Radwood treasure trove: Hideaway lamps .Digital gauges. Weird shifter. Bizarre coin/cup/flippy thing.
And a bulletproof powertrain. You don’t want one of these with ABS, but beside that, it should be a fully serviceable and fun daily.
I’ve actually thought about one of these to take up less garage space than my Lincoln Mark VII, which I hold as the gold standard of 80’s American Cars as far as drivability goes.
In my current state of affairs, I’d find the Saturn vastly more usable.
But the Toronado has a charisma and charm that cannot be eluded. Olds it is.
This is a tough one.
I’ve always liked Toronados. My mom drove a ‘73 for a while. That thing had a massive hood that was completely stuffed underneath with a 455, a transaxle, AC and about a mile’s worth of hoses connecting all of the anti-smog components.
The Saturn being a wagon in an interesting colour at a good price really tempted me, but in the end, I went with my gut and voted for the Toronado.
Normally, I’d go for the smaller, more efficient car, but… my mom had the sedan version of the Saturn, and it was just awful. Loud. Crude suspension. Didn’t handle as well as I expected something that size to be capable of.
The interior and engine compartment of the Olds looks remarkably clean and tidy. I had a company car (1988 Olds Delta 88) with that engine and transmission combo, and it was pleasant to drive and pretty efficient on the freeway. Two-door anythings aren’t really my thing, but memories of my mom’s Saturn are enough to tip the scales towards the Toronado.
It’s not a Trofeo with TravTek and for a long time I couldn’t get past that early pre-facelift side profile that looked so close to the fugly Cutlass Calais.
But at the same time I dig the cleanliness, 3800, the refreshing shade of medium rosewood metallic and time capsule feeling interior of the Toronado.
I like Saturns (owned an early Vue with a 5spd) and this wagon might have lots of life left, plus the price is right. But it’s missing the cool factor (and lots of clearcoat) of the Olds.
Those Saturns just go and go. Olds looks clean is weird enough and the brand has ne dead enough to get some head scratches from younger people. Definitely Saturn for a driver but olds for collection.