As we speak, there are four daring astronauts that have just flung around the moon for the first time in over 50 years, and are currently, let’s see, as of this writing, about 136,700 miles from home. This particular Artemis II mission is going to (hopefully) be the start of many more missions to the moon, including ones that will put people back on the surface of the moon, and, ideally, establish some manner of permanent presence on our only natural satellite. This is exciting to me. It also means that, if we’re going to be going back to the moon, we’re going to need some way to get around.
Sure, there will be new, advanced lunar roving vehicles developed, I have no doubt, but this is the Autopian: we can’t just ignore the fact that there are at least three perfectly good used car projects just waiting for us on the moon! They all ran when parked, too, and I’m pretty sure rust or mold isn’t a problem up there on the moon, so I think what we’re looking at here are three smoking-hot deals, just waiting to be had!
You’re all familiar with the Lunar Roving Vehicle, right? They’re all 1971 and 1972 models, and there was a production run of three, not counting earthbound test versions, all bound for export to the lunar market. These rovers went up on Apollos 15, 16, and 17. Here’s some nice video of one of these babies in action:
They all should be in about the same general condition, though the Apollo 17 one had a minor mishap that led to it having one of its fenders repaired with some tape and lunar maps, so if you want a minty one, go for the 15 or 16 ones:

A Little Overview
They did their jobs incredibly well; NASA wasn’t going to take any chances, so they made a rule that the furthest astronauts could drive the rovers would be in a circle with a six mile radius, the maximum walk back an astronaut could do given the restrictions of supplies in their spacesuits. Even so, that gave a lot of area that could be explored, far more than could be done on foot, and on Apollo 17, for example, they drove 22 miles in the rover. This was well within the 57 mile range of the rover’s batteries, which we’ll get into more detail about soon.

The rovers had a total of only about one horsepower, divided between four 1/4 hp motors, one driving each wheel. That may not seem like much, but you have to remember that the moon only has 1/6 of our usual gravity, so even though it weighed about 480 pounds on Earth, on the moon that’s under 80 pounds! It was rated with a top speed of 8mph, but Gene Cernan got one up to 11mph during Apollo 17.
Where To Find Them

Here’s the locations of the three rovers: one at Hadley Rille, one in the Descartes Highlands, and one in the Taurus-Littrow Valley, so now you know what sections on Lunar Craigslist to check.
What Will They Need To Get Going Again?
The good news here is that all of these rovers are very low-mileage, one-owner examples. All were in perfect running condition when parked over 50 years ago. There’s no weather on the moon as such, so really the only wear they likely have been subjected to are thermal fluctuations and the UV rays from the sun, which likely has faded paint and decals and could have degraded some exposed wire insulation, possibly. I’d bring some electrical tape just to be safe.
The biggest thing that will need replacing are the batteries. These were never designed to be recharged. The rovers use a pair of 36V silver-zinc batteries in special plexiglass housings. These batteries were good for 115 amp-hours, or about 4.14 kWh. Either battery could operate the entire rover for redundancy’s sake, though in normal operation one battery drove the front wheel motors, and the other drove the rear.
The batteries are mounted at the front of the rover:

The batteries are under thermal blankets and are also used as heat sinks for some of the other electronics on the rover to help maintain their operating temperatures. Here’s the temperature range NASA set for the batteries:

So, it looks like the thermal system was designed to keep the batteries at an operating temperature between 40°F and 125°F, with a survivable range of -15°F to 140°F. This is actually good news for the plan to restart these rovers, which will involve replacing these batteries with modern lithium-ion batteries, which are generally able to operate between -4°F and 140°F.
Also good news is that there’s plenty of lithium-ion golf cart batteries that are 36V! Here’s a bunch on Amazon! But let’s get good ones, since we’re going all the way to the moon. This one is a 36V (technically 38.4V, like all the 36V batteries here, but that should be fine) that makes 120 amp-hours/4.32 kWh, so that’s even better than the originals. And I think it should fit pretty well – it’s not exactly the right size, but it’s within a couple inches on each dimension, so I bet with a little hammering/finagling, we can get it to fit. So order two of those.

The procedure for removing/replacing the battery doesn’t seem too bad, either; these instructions are for the Earth-based training rover, but it should be pretty similar to the ones on the moon, because the whole point of this thing was to train astronauts for the real thing:

I think the trickiest bit will likely be the connector; I haven’t been able to find definitively what the battery electronic connectors that were used, but I strongly suspect that it’s a MIL-DTL-5015 connector, likely a four-pin one, based on schematic diagrams. Two pins are for the usual positive and negative terminals of the battery, and I think the other two are instrumentation.

I’d say go up ready for any possibility; have a cable with these MIL-DTL-5015 connectors, but also maybe have pigtails that you can just splice into whatever the rover actually has. I think if you can get the + and – connected, you should be good to go!
How To Drive It
Okay, I’m confident that this is going to work, that the new lithium ion batteries will be able to be crammed into those battery trays, that the thermal management components can be replaced, and connectors either plugged in or spliced on, and you’ve got 36 rich, creamy volts flowing through the system.
So now what? How can you drive these? Happily, it seems pretty straightforward. First, have a seat in one of the two seats, and look in front of you. You should see the instrument panel:

Hopefully those four vertical lights on the left side will be illuminated, two BUS lights per battery, showing you that you have power. To turn the thing on, you’ll want. to flip these switches to ON:

The leftmost two starts the steering systems (front and rear), and then to the right of that are four switches, one for each wheel’s drive motor, and then four DRIVE ENABLE switches, again one per wheel. So just flick all those on!

Now, to actually drive, there’s a big T-shaped handle in the middle, between the seats. To accelerate, push forward, to brake pull back. If you keep pulling back, you’ll go into reverse, unless that REVERSE INHIBIT switch is on.
To turn, just rotate the handle in the direction you want to turn! It’s that easy!
We Can Do This
There are three perfectly good lightly-used rovers on the moon. It would be criminal to just leave them there! Cars were meant to be driven, after all, and if all these things need are new batteries – which I think it’s a safe bet to assume that’s all they need, it’s at least worth a try – then why not get those classic rides going again?
Think about it, NASA! Why waste the money? These are prime deals, just sitting there!
Story and top graphic images except where noted: NASA









Probably still more reliable than Land Rover.
6 miles?! I trust NASA to have devoted years to coming up with that number, but good God what a miserable walk home in one of those suits. But, if your life depends on it, I guess you do what you gotta do.
I mean, you don’t really *walk* on the moon, you hop
Tell that to The Police!
…”Giant steps I want to take, walking on the moon”
that might be worse? I’ll admit I haven’t tried it so it’s just a guess.
Tried a simulated moon gravity rig back when I was a kid. Less force required to travel further per stride
Even then, with the bulkiness of the suit, it couldn’t have been easy. I remember reading the astronauts were sweating profusely even on their shorter jaunts around the LM.
It’s also 100°F in the light on the moon
Be careful. This was way before they started using rodent-resistant wiring.
Gonna need a chainsaw to get those old batteries out.
This is the comment I was looking for.
On the moon you can throw your dead lunar rover batteries into the Sea…of Tranquility.
Save some money AND the
planetmoon: take them to a recycling center and get your core deposit back.Torch I was surprised you didn’t mention the need for a chainsaw for the procedure. I mean light low horsepower EV it seems chainsaw is the way to go
Oh Crap! Swore you all forgot about them. They were converted into lava tube excavators and conveyors 45 years ago by my robot army. I guess I’ll send a few of them out to the locations, make impact craters, and scatter the unused parts around.
I think the Autopian needs to send someone to commandeer the lunar rover, as it is the holiest of Holy Grail Jeeps
David Tracy: “Nothing can be a grail unless it’s at least 50% oxidized”
presumably this one is 0.00%.
I wonder if you can build one with E Bay parts.
Only thing is if we’re spending all that money to go to the moon again I want nasa to go to some new places, not just keep visiting the same places they’ve been to before.
That’s what the rovers are for, so you can hit the lunar highway and drive somewhere you’ve never been before!
plus we can start whereever and Musk will for sure supply a Tesla that can drive to one of the original sites. Hell of a road trip.
If there’s not a place to stop for roller dogs and a slurpee, is it really worth it?
But everybody likes the Mooniversal Studios theme park.
Well we haven’t landed on the sun yet….
Writing about the Rover you posted on Craigslist Selene. Is it still available?
If this post is still up, it’s available. $1.45 million FIRM. No tire kickers. Public meet-up only.
Do you take crypto?
No. I only accept precious metals.
Sweet. A trip to the Pick’n Pull near the Sea of Tranquility and a few hours of wrenching and you’re back in business.
Buc-ee’s is probably already planning to open a location there
Right next to the Dollar General that’s already there.
No parking-lot dings but micro-meteorite strikes are a possibility.
That’s your best bet for negotiating on price. Plus paint condition and the fact that the seller hasn’t even bothered taking them through a
carrover wash. Makes you wonder if they’ve been keeping up with maintenance.As many meteorite streams Earth and the moon have passed through in the last 50+ years (per Google 2+ per year), I’m guessing these rovers have probably been sand-blasted by now.
Couple of rattle cans should take care of that. Mind you hold onto something while painting lest you get blasted into lunar orbit or worse.
what could possibly be worse than unintentionally jetteson-ing yourself into lunar orbit? Like what “would-you-rather” would it have to be where I’d answer “oh for sure ENTERING ETERNAL LUNAR ORBIT.”
just grab that tesla roadster that’s floating around in space and charge the mf up.
…but then I would have a Tesla?
“I got this before Elon went crazy.” Back when he was a normal dude launching cars into space.
Just swap the badges out for Lotus ones, the normies won’t know the difference.
Just pull the batteries from it. The suspension of the Roadster isn’t gonna do well with the moon’s lack of highway upkeep.
You just know no one at NASA remembers precisely where these were parked. I can just picture the astronauts standing on the rim of a crater, desperately thumbing a key fob and looking for the flashing lights and listening for the boop, boop.
Seinfield IN SPACE
Jerry: I told you to find a parking space.
Kramer: Parking space? I thought you said park in space.
Elaine: Guys, hurry up! My fish is dying!
“Just a minute, I gotta pee.”
What ’71-72 model has a remote fob? It was square key for the ignition, round key for the doors and trunk back then (unless you had a Mopar where the round key was for the trunk only).
If it had doors and a trunk that is.
This was space-age tech. Of course it had proximity keys, along with blind spot monitoring and adaptive cruise control.
That’s almost plausible since the rovers were manufactured by General Motors, back when they were among the top engineering and production companies.
Some of the rockets amd systems were made by Chrysler/Mopar, though.
Just to round out the Big Three, Ford made a bunch of telemetry and television equipment, along with building and maintaining Mission Control in Houston through its Aeronautic Division (made up of Philco-Ford).
“Ran when parked!”
I love it…shitboxes on the moon. I think we should have a Shitbox Showdown Lunar Edition. Also, you know what vehicle would feel right at home on the moon? The Delorean!
“Roads? Where we’re going we don’t need roads!”
Or the awesome flying train
The delivery fees on these things must have been out of this world.
Really puts those $1200 destination fees into perspective. Appears it cost somewhere around $1 million per pound to get stuff to the moon. The rover was 400ish (earth) pounds. Granted it only had a one-way ticket so you can knock that destination charge down to $200 million.
I’m sure, under the current administration, we’ll be sending Hellcat powered rovers to the moon. None of this 1 hp, EV 8mph crap!
They’ll need all 707 horses to lug around the massive tanks of air that they’ll consume! It’s a self-licking ice cream cone!
Plus we can establish an atmosphere up there (of NO2 and what not). You know they’re gonna straight pipe those things.
You know, if someone’s just gotta have straight pipes the best place for that noise is on the moon.
In space, no one can hear you rev
Once we get these things running and all in the same place, it’s time to race! Lunar Rover Racing League!
No! We get the guys from the Cheap Car Challenge article from earlier to go up there and do the most expensive Cheap Car Challenge ever!
I’m going to assume a lot of the vehicle is going to have severe UV damage. As in- not the kind of UV we get on earth where its mostly shielded by an atmosphere. Anything plastic, rubber, anything else that is gonna be toast. I work on a lot of vintage electronics and its bad enough when they sit in a closet for 50 years. But on the moon? Jesus… the stuff would be fried.
Presumably those electronics have been inside some kind of box which should be fine for even 50 years of hard UV exposure. UV is easy to block.
X-rays, gamma rays and cosmic rays however…
There’s waaaay too many miles on these. I’d also be concerned with having to evict a bunch of nesting cats.
Moon cats, baby
Lunar cats
Yeah but does the AC blow cold? Tire date codes?
-300F! Well, sometimes.
I was just thinking that if Mark Watney can roadtrip halfway across Mars to catch a ride into space, surely it would be possible to roadtrip those rovers back to whatever base is built. But then I remembered that Mars has an atmosphere and Mark Watney could make oxygen, while the Moon does not and there’s no known way of making any there right now
We do know how to make 02 on the moon, theoretically. There is water ice in the polar craters that can be cracked into hydrogen and oxygen. Cracking it and getting it from the poles to where the rovers are – well, that’s a whole ‘nother problem, but we know how to make it.
Or crack the CO2 exhaled back into O2:
https://www.techexplorist.com/co2-directly-split-electrochemically-into-carbon-oxygen/98305/
Then it’s just a matter of turning the carbon into diamonds.
And as a side benefit – put De Beers out of business. Bonus! What could be more special than *MOON DIAMONDS*!
How about PSR J1719-1438b?
“PSR J1719-1438b is a dense remnant of a dead star, orbiting a pulsar (a rapidly spinning neutron star) with breathtaking speed.
…
Scientists believe the planet consists largely of crystalline carbon, formed under unimaginable pressure when the star’s outer layers were stripped away by its pulsar companion. What remains is a planetary core so dense, it likely resembles a gigantic cosmic diamond.”
https://engineerine.com/nasa-planet-sized-diamond/
And that’s not the only such massive diamond out there.
I recall there being some theories that the core of Jupiter may be a giant diamond too? Probably outdated with all the new research though.
Clearly the next DT wrenching challenge.
“Guys, I’ve got 5 days of oxygen remaining and I don’t know how I’m going to get this rover moving again. And eBay won’t ship to the Taurus-Littrow valley. Wish me luck!”
See, my first reaction was rather SWG.
“Greetings fellow autopians, I got a smokin’ deal on these trashed rovers and if I can get one of them running, I know I can sell it back to the cash-strapped US Government for the best profit this dark side of the Cape Fear. Let’s low-gravity wrench!”
At 6 miles’ range, how many charging stops to get it from Jason’s house to SWG’s Evil Wrenching Lair?
More than twelve for sure.
I’m waiting for Jason’s plan to find and revive the Antarctic Snow Cruiser.
If NASA was run by the Autopian we would most definitely get this old rovers going again – even if it made no sense because the rovers are sitting at the equator and the new moon base is supposed to be at the south pole.
Wrenching ROAD TRIP !!! These are the holy grail of lunar rovers after all.
Provided they figure out how to operate a chainsaw on the moon.
Battery powered chainsaw, it’s fine. And just strap the gas (battery) to the floorboard of the passenger side. Only one man for the job. Torch of autopian, changli master, with era appropriate electronics to give the central console upgrade.
No way to train a 99.9 percentile flight engineer for this. Just make sure he posts the toilet blog before reclaiming the rover.
I’m thinking bypass all that crap and just wire the batteries straight to the motors. Put some relays and a playstation controller in between and you’re good to go. That’s what they did for the Titan submersible and it worked great.
Um, your proposing we make the rovers Titan-ic? That’s some serious bad karma.
I should have added the /s tag. But I stand by my suggestion to bring your own basic wiring harness/PS4 controller and letting it rip.
No tic tac toeic
There are also pneumatic and hydraulic powered chainsaws.