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How Do You Like Your Torque Steer? 1984 Dodge Daytona Turbo vs 2009 Chevy Impala SS

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Front-wheel-drive performance cars are a controversial topic. Ask a Mini or VW GTI aficionado, and they’ll tell you FWD is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Muscle car enthusiasts, on the other hand, often shun anything driven at the “wrong” end. One thing everyone can agree on, though, is that it’s no fun when the front wheels yank the steering wheel out of your hands on hard acceleration – the dreaded “torque steer.” Today, we’re going to check out a couple of high-powered FWD cars guaranteed to make you wrestle with them.

Yesterday was all about second chances, and which of two abandoned projects deserved one. You’re a brave lot, I’ll tell you that – the old Rolls-Royce won in a landslide. Ain’t nothing like the real thing, I guess.

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I agree. A cheap kit car would be a fun thing to tinker with, but not that one. I’d rather have something VW-based; it just seems like an easier way to go, and if you end up hating the body that’s on it, you can always swap it out. A beached whale of a Rolls-Royce would be a massive undertaking, but at least it might class up the place sitting there dead.

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Nearly every car manufacturer switched to a transverse engine and front-wheel-drive during the 1980s, for one reason: packaging. Put all the driveline components at one end, and you have the whole rest of the car for people and cargo. But using the same wheels to drive as you use to steer can be a tricky business, especially when you crank up the horsepower. Careful engineering can tame most of a FWD car’s bad habits, but there’s still a chance it will want to go straight when you want to turn. It’s an unnerving sensation, and some people just hate it. If you’re one of them, then I’m afraid today’s cars might not be for you. But let’s check them out, and see if you can give them a fair shake.

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1984 Dodge Daytona Turbo – $4,995

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Image: Craigslist seller

Engine/drivetrain: Turbocharged 2.2-liter OHC inline 4, five-speed manual, FWD

Location: Hillsboro, OR

Odometer reading: 118,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives great

Whatever you think of the old Chrysler K-based cars – and I know most of you aren’t fans – you have to give Chrysler credit for making a lot with a little. They’re kind of like Taco Bell: Everything is the same eight ingredients, but somehow they keep coming up with new menu items. What we have here is something that can’t rightly be called a sports car, but I think it’s fair to call it a pony car. The Daytona, and its sister model the Chrysler Laser, may have been K-cars under the skin, but that skin looked mighty good, and still does today.

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1984 was the first year for Chrysler’s turbocharged 2.2 liter engine. It made 142 horsepower, a figure that would climb to great heights in later years, but take it from a former ’84 Laser Turbo owner – this car has plenty of power. This one has received a lot of love: the seller has rebuilt everything, and restored all the mechanical systems to like-new condition. Apparently they run a restoration shop. A Dodge Daytona may seem like an unlikely car to receive such treatment to some of you, but I for one am delighted to see it.

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The Daytona isn’t much like a garden-variety K car inside, either. It has nice leather bucket seats, all kinds of fancy power options, and, possibly, the talking Electronic Message Center. That’s right: this car’s doors might very well be jars. It’s in really good shape inside, though there is evidence of Chrysler’s haphazard build quality everywhere. It’s just something you deal with on a car like this, and really, it’s no worse than a Jaguar or an Alfa Romeo of the same vintage.

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The paint is pretty dull, and I don’t know how well it would shine back up. It must have been parked outside for a long time. You could repaint it, but you’d have to find someone to reproduce those “Turbo” graphics on the bottom of the doors. It wouldn’t be complete without them.

2009 Chevrolet Impala SS – $4,200

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Image: Craigslist seller

Engine/drivetrain: 5.3-liter OHV V8, four-speed automatic, FWD

Location: Manor, TX

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Odometer reading: 154,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

The Impala nameplate has a long history behind it. It was introduced in 1958 as the top-of-the-line full-size Chevy, and has come and gone a couple of times over the years. In 2000, Chevy brought back the Impala name on a new front-wheel-drive sedan, much to the chagrin of classic Chevy fans.

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A high-performance Super Sport version of the Impala is a tradition dating all the way back to 1960. The FWD Impala SS debuted in 2004, with a supercharged 3800 V6, but when the bodystyle changed in 2006, Chevy upped the ante. This 2009 Impala SS has a 5.3 liter LS4 V8 under its hood, sending 303 horsepower to the front wheels. It can run low 14s in the quarter mile – for as long as the transmission holds up. They’re notorious for failing. This one has recently had its transmission replaced, so it should be good to go for a while, but be nice to it if you want it to last.

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It shows some wear inside. The carpet is rough, and there’s a popped seam on the driver’s seat. But the seller says the heat and air conditioning work just fine, so that’s something. Make sure you try out all the power features to find out if anything is broken.

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This ad has terrible photos, but from what I can tell the car is in good condition outside. Photographing a car in the rain is an old trick to make it look shiny, but it can’t hide peeling clearcoat, and I don’t see any signs of that. It does have some deeply-tinted windows, which you may or may not like. It’ll cost you around a hundred bucks to have it taken off.

So on the one hand, you have a turbocharged FWD car from a time when automakers were still trying to tame its bad habits, and on the other you have a V8-powered beast that eats transmissions. Either one will show you some bad habits if you push it hard enough. But both could be a lot of fun to drive despite those bad habits. Which one speaks to you?

 

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Drive By Commenter
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Drive By Commenter
2 hours ago

$4200 for a working LS4, a reportedly new-ish 4T65-HD and all the bits necessary to make them run seems like a decent deal. Plus it’s all packaged up nicely for easy transportation to its final destination. Part out the Impala and get a working transverse mounted V8 for something cool. Like a Fiero.

GFunk
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GFunk
2 hours ago

$5k for a somewhat interesting, somewhat antique car whose mechanicals have already been sorted? Yes please. Plus, it’s impossible for me to separate anything late model Impala (V8 or not) from my parents-in-law.

It's Pronounced Porch-ah
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It's Pronounced Porch-ah
2 hours ago

No contest that the K-car wins. One of the best K-car derivatives vs the worst Impala SS (I think, was there a worse version?). Love the wedge, and the gold, and the brown, and the manual. Also, something about the photos in the rain, bad tint, and dirty interior are giving big Altima vibes to the Impala.

JDE
JDE
3 hours ago

Daytona seemed interesting enough to overcome the AFM powered FWD LS. But after reading the ad, I am not sure I could “Low Key” not strangle the little dude.

I do think I could delete the AFM and tune the LS to be longer lasting, and I have always thought those should be used in a Fiero or even a Fiero Kit car. I will take the Impala.

Harvey Firebirdman
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Harvey Firebirdman
3 hours ago

I love 80s wedge mobiles so I had to vote the Daytona sucks it doesn’t have ttops but it is still very cool.

SAABstory
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SAABstory
3 hours ago

Congrats, you finally got me to vote for a K-car.

Why? That Impala looks like probable cause. If the transmission doesn’t get you first, the cops will.

JDE
JDE
3 hours ago
Reply to  SAABstory

Trans was supposedly just replaced.

Ricardo M
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Ricardo M
3 hours ago

For my taste, cars should either be competent or fun, anything that isn’t one or both is a waste of time unless I’m desperate for a transportation solution. The Impala SS is a serious attempt at competence, but not a successful one.

The Charger is silly, the condition of this one invites shenanigans, and I’ll have fun with that.

Last edited 3 hours ago by Ricardo M
Manwich Sandwich
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Manwich Sandwich
3 hours ago

Daytona for me. I would rather have a transverse 4 cyl with a manual than a transverse V8 with a slushbox. And someone correct me if I’m wrong, but the transmission in the V8/FWD Impala had durability issues unless you babied it, right?

NebraskaStig
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NebraskaStig
3 hours ago

Uh oh you jumped to the comments without reading the content ;).

Manwich Sandwich
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Manwich Sandwich
2 hours ago
Reply to  NebraskaStig

I saw the ‘eats transmissions’ part. I’m saying if you baby it, you can avoid the durability issues, right? Or will it fail regardless of babying it?

But either way, I’d rather have the Daytona. Less power, but I can floor it and not worry about causing the transmission to explode.

Pneumatic Tool
Pneumatic Tool
3 hours ago

“That’s right: this car’s doors might very well be jars” – there’s a lot of people who read that and have no idea what it’s talking about, but to those of a certain age…I digress.

I never really liked the Laser/Daytona when it came out. It always seemed like a pretender against the other pony cars of the 80’s (I was a GT guy), but that stance has softened over the years and I appreciate them for what they were, rather than what they weren’t. This one comes in period-correct copper that is just screaming for a respray, and I can’t deny my love for those moon dish wheels. Yeah, the Impala would probably be a better car, but the Daytona is cooler, IMO.

Squirrelmaster
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Squirrelmaster
3 hours ago

Impala. The Daytona is giving me flashbacks to the epic torque steer my Shelby Lancer had, but also flashbacks to how atrocious the build quality was on those K-cars. 2000s GM was hardly the pinnacle of build quality either, but I’d rather play with the LS4 than the Turbo-I 2.2L in the Daytona.

Tim Cougar
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Tim Cougar
3 hours ago

I still remember watching one of these Impala SSs drive by and being impressed by the V-8 exhaust burble. It may be FWD, but it’s got the proper muscle car sound.

World24
World24
3 hours ago

I was honestly going to go Impala, because FWD V8 GM cars make me giggle when I drive them, but then I saw that Daytona has been cared for… enough to get spare parts and official repair manuals?!
That Daytona would beat out most anything for me. That thing is probably one mint vehicle, and while I’m not a fan of the name (Dodge has ruined the Daytona name since the 1975 Charger Daytona), I’m here for small, economical coupes.

Phil
Phil
3 hours ago

Daytona. It has ALL of the brown and upon reading the ads I would trust its seller much more. Way better condition inside. Manual transmission is a big plus. Doesn’t matter if the paint doesn’t shine back up, it’s a nasty color anyway.

The Impala seller put less than zero effort into the ad and the car looks like he put less than zero effort into keeping it nice. Wonder how long the second transmission will last.

Lori Hille
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Lori Hille
3 hours ago

Plus Chrysler being like Taco Bell with the same ingredients in different menu items is classic Autopian.

Lori Hille
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Lori Hille
3 hours ago

The Daytona is one of those cars that tells when your door is a jar. Give me the V8.

Max Headbolts
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Max Headbolts
4 hours ago

I’ve driven the Shelby version of this Daytona, and thoroughly enjoyed the Turbo lag, tried to buy it but the owner wasn’t selling. It was the red/silver two tone. I’d pop for a decent respray of this one and just keep up with the squeaks and rattles to keep it fun.

So yeah, I went Daytona.

Last edited 4 hours ago by Max Headbolts
The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
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The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
4 hours ago

I went with the Impala. I am not interested in it as a performance car, but as a generic transportation appliance it seems like a solid deal. I’m not concerned about transmission failures since I would drive a car like this at 2/10 at most – I have zero interest in pushing the limits of a generic budget-friendly FWD sedan no matter how many cylinders the engine has. If I owned this car, SS would mean Super Slow.

The Daytona is kind of interesting, though. I’m not a fan of most ’80s cars, but I have always liked the styling of the Daytona for some reason. However, it isn’t interesting enough that I want it as a toy and it wouldn’t be one of my top 100 choices for a daily driver, so I will pass.

Matt DeCraene
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Matt DeCraene
4 hours ago

Almost anytime there is a relatively modern car against something older, I really think it comes down to use case. If I’m looking for something I need to use as regular, somewhat reliable transportation, the newer car usually wins. Just the usability of a post 2000s car is so much better than a car from the 80s. It’s the more practical choice. But if I want something just for fun that I don’t have to rely on, the older car is often more interesting. I went the fun route today.

Cheats McCheats
Cheats McCheats
4 hours ago

Didn’t even read the description for either car. Daytona turbo, manual in good condition? Yup. Gimme!

James McHenry
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James McHenry
4 hours ago

Small, manual, boost lag…yeah. Mopar, please. Tint like that on a late model sedan makes me back slowly into the hedge.

I don't hate manual transmissions
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I don't hate manual transmissions
4 hours ago

The Daytona is the objectively cooler car.*

* Yes, I know “coolness” is completely subjective, but Daytona vs that Impala? No contest.

TK-421
TK-421
4 hours ago

I’ve always thought the Daytona’s were kinda cool, found out my GF had a non-turbo at some point. I almost bought one in 1997 when the Camaro was ready to throw a rod, test drove it and a Beretta. Ended up with the Beretta but always wondered.

TURBO! (And a manual because of course.)

Borton
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Borton
4 hours ago

Neither of these really excites me. Impala I guess. It’s less conspicuous.

Fineheresyourdamn70dollars
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Fineheresyourdamn70dollars
4 hours ago

One of the brother-in-lawses had a ’85 Daytona in the mid ‘90s. Predictably the turbo burned up. I took on the job as most were afraid of turbos at that time. Really wasn’t that big a deal. On the test drive I cleared a hill with enthusiasm and the rear hatch popped up a few inches. Always dodgey…

TK-421
TK-421
4 hours ago

Dodgey.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
4 hours ago

Daytona, just because …

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