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How I’d Make The Honda Ridgeline More Competitive By Boosting Its ‘Truckness’

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What exactly is “truckness”? It’s a hard-to-describe quality, but you can tell when a vehicle has it or not. A Ford F-150 of essentially any era? Truckness in spades. An El Camino? Very limited truckness, but that was highly intentional for an era when owning “a truck” was considered a bit declassee and not something cool and hip like it is now.

Indeed, today if you build a pickup truck with limited truckness then you’re likely going to struggle to sell it. The Hyundai Santa Fe, for example, will never be more than a niche player. Honda too has been in that position for a long time with their Ridgeline. As a unibody pickup that’s all the rage now it should be moving out of dealers like nobody’s business, but it doesn’t. Can we make add more “truckness” to give this excellent product more of the consideration that it deserves?

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No, I Wanted A Real Pickup

I’m not sure why I tend to write about the Ford Maverick seemingly every five minutes, but it’s certainly a vehicle that every car maker needs to pay attention to. In this world of poor EV and sedan sales combined with a saturated market of seemingly identical crossovers, any standout that outperforms expectations has to be a target for all other brands.

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The Maverick is certainly a good design and a great value, but why has it succeeded in the market? I’d venture to guess that it’s this little Ford has ample amount of “truckness”. Today, the stigma of driving a tradesman’s vehicle is long gone; anyone and everyone seems to want the abilities and, more importantly, the I-build-stuff-or-do-outdoorsy-things image of a full-sized Ford or Chevy pickup as a substitute for their old family sedan. It’s no surprise that these vehicles are still far and away some of the top sellers of anything with four wheels in America.

However, what if you realized something like that is too damn big for the garage, or you simply can’t afford the $50,000 plus often needed to acquire a reasonably equipped example? Enter the Maverick; an F-150 that went into the dryer and someone forgot to turn the heat level down from “high”.

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However, before the Maverick’s 2022 debut, the words “unibody four door pickup” would make most people imagine one vehicle: the Honda Ridgeline. This ambitious project was based on the idea that buyers wanted to move from sedans, SUVs and minivans to a soft of “halfway house” pickup that was quite car-like and didn’t care that it was incapable of carrying insane payloads or had multi-ton towing capabilities of a typical truck.

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The test mule for the Ridgeline was an MDX with a competitor’s bed placed on back, and the production truck featured a V6 similar to that Acura. Despite this, the Ridgeline was not just an MDX or Odyssey minivan “El Camino”. When it debuted for the 2005 model year, the first-generation Ridgeline had a unique, beefed-up structure that reportedly only shared 7 percent of its components with other Honda products.

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Sadly, Honda seemed to forget one thing about what was important to sell a product: image. The Ridgeline didn’t have traditional “truckness” and, contrary to what they thought, people moving into a truck actually wanted that part of the experience. The front end of the Ridgeline resembled the somewhat controversial Element, and the massive sail panels behind the cab further distanced the look from what people expected a pickup truck to be.

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Sales for the first year were a rather healthy 60,679, dropping to around 55,000 by 2007. However, like the AMC Pacer, it seems like everyone that wanted one by then had gotten one and the bottom fell out. By 2008, Honda moved less than half of that number, with sales below 20,000 until Honda finally pulled the plug in 2014.

After a hiatus, Honda came back for 2017 with the second-generation Ridgeline; this time it was heavily based on Honda’s current Pilot and shared around 73 percent of its components (but was still stronger and sturdier than the earlier model).

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As with the first-generation version, the Ridgeline offered a two-way tailgate like on an old American station wagon, and the big party trick was the weather-sealed trunk under the back section of the bed.

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This Ridgeline did have more “truckness,” at least sort of. The profile was more of a traditional “three box” form without funky sail panels or a rather bizarre face. Unfortunately, the crossover-like angled-back nose and detailing made it look a bit too much like a CRV-Camino. Sales grew to a peak in 2023 with 52,001 leaving dealers, but since then, the numbers have once again declined. Who’s eating Honda’s lunch? Ford, that’s who, with sales nearly triple the Ridgeline’s numbers last year.

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Honda’s research about a market for a “starter truck” twenty years ago has proved to be true, but sadly Ford is the one that’s reaping the benefits. The Ridgeline should have been the Accord of unibody trucks, but it’s always been the Insight. Could we change that?

My Truck Looks Bigger Than A Honda, Yeah Bigger Than A Subaru

I’ve heard some say that the Ridgeline’s higher price is what’s killing its chances in the market, but when the second-generation Odyssey appeared in 1999, it also cost more than most competitors, yet still sold in healthy numbers. No, I think it’s a lack of “truckness” that’s keeping customers away.

In some ways, it’s easier to determine what isn’t truckness as opposed to what it is. Looking at the latest Ridgeline, we can break down where it’s missing the boat, or the truck in this case.

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In a nutshell, the latest Ridgeline bears a lot of the design language of Honda’s crossover products. The swept-back nose with wraparound light clusters sit above a bumper with all of the fussy detailing associated with light-duty soft-roaders. On the sides, sweeping character lines combine with very subtle wheel arches. Even the door handles, which are a minor but highly tactile detail, seem very dainty and car-like.

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Here’s my first pass of added truckness. I’ve kept the entire upper cab (greenhouse), basic profile and even the wheels the same to show the changes.

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One thing that all of this simplification seems to do is make the Ridgeline transcend being a certain size; in a vacuum (metaphorical, of course), it’s hard to tell that it’s a little truck. For the Maverick, Ford was sure to keep the overall aesthetic akin to the big F-150. The Ridgeline in its current state seems to reference CR-Vs and HR-Vs; you immediately think “small SUV” when you see that face, and that’s not doing it any favors in terms of truckness.

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Here’s the animation:

Honda 2026 Ridgeline Animation

You could say these changes make the Ridgeline look even remotely retro or dated, as it really harkens back to a time, maybe twenty years ago, before trucks had absurdly fussy and massive-looking front ends and needless styling details. It’s a throwback to when trucks looked like functional work machines that were ready for you to add your own touches, or just leave bone stock.

That’s something some truck fans seem to be looking for. I could be wrong, but the sales figures prove that they aren’t looking at the Ridgeline, and they should.

Ford Knew A Good Idea When They Saw It

You have to feel for Honda; they saw an opportunity and went for it. It wasn’t like Ford that created the initial minivan concept and then sat on it (since the man whose last name was on the cars really hated the people who came up with the idea and fired them). No, Honda had the right idea, acted on it, and has persevered for decades with the unibody truck idea – but never connected with the buyers who were there all along.

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When Honda replaced the rather odd, small first-generation Odyssey with the far more typical second-generation model, sales increased substantially; I think the same thing might be the case here. It certainly wouldn’t hurt for Honda to try something more traditional-looking. The next-generation Ridgeline is just around the corner, and one would Honda has learned from the past.

If the Toyota Tundra taught us anything, it’s that the Japanese brands might not meet the American buyers on the first try, but they eventually get there.

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Duane Cannon
Duane Cannon
3 months ago

If you’re going to piss on the Santa Cruz at least get the name right.

Bob the Hobo
Bob the Hobo
3 months ago
Reply to  Duane Cannon

Maybe Hyundai should’ve gotten the Santa Cruz right if they wanted people to know the name.

Duane Cannon
Duane Cannon
3 months ago
Reply to  Bob the Hobo

They did, and it’s a great car. Sloppy writing and even dumber comment. Yuk yuk.

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
3 months ago

I think the first generation Ridgeline looks a lot like a Chevy Avalanche, but lacks the mid gate. This made it a soccer mom truck, ideal for muddy sports gear, bark dust or the occasional mountain bike, but of limited utility for lumber or towing.
The restyle definitely makes it look more like a truck and less like a soft roader with a box but still doesn’t address the price. Ridgelines start around $40k which is $10k more than a decently equipped Maverick and slightly more expensive than a basic 4×4 Ranger or Tacoma. Worse, it’s only a few thousand more for a full size crew cab. Unless a Pilot Amino is what you’re after there’s not enough value proposition

86-GL
86-GL
3 months ago

Rather than giving the current Ridgeline another butch facelift, (which Honda has already attempted with little success) a better approach would have been to chop a bed onto the new Passport or 4th gen Pilot. That’s literally what the next Ridgeline will be, anyways.

IMO if the current Ridgeline has an aesthetic fault that kills the truck vibe, it would be the egg-shaped greenhouse of the 3rd gen Pilot. The previous Pilot was incredibly minivan-coded, way softer, lower and less athletic looking than the generations proceeding it. It was a very poor base to build a pickup truck, even with the sail panels eliminated.

Bob the Hobo
Bob the Hobo
3 months ago
Reply to  86-GL

 a better approach would have been to chop a bed onto the new Passport or 4th gen Pilot. That’s literally what the next Ridgeline will be, anyways.

Is that not what the second generation already is or have they said they plan to phone it in and make it a Hummer H2T?

86-GL
86-GL
3 months ago
Reply to  Bob the Hobo

You are correct, that’s exactly what the 2nd Ridgeline is. A 3rd gen Pilot with a bed.

My point is that the 3rd-gen Pilot has always been a bloated, egg-looking SUV that was poorly suited to being turned into a pickup truck, without a proper re-body.

The new 4th gen Pilot is more classically styled SUV, with linear hood, greenhouse and an upright front end. I suspect that even with the same treatment, it will produce a better looking Ridgeline.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Pilot

Last edited 3 months ago by 86-GL
Bob the Hobo
Bob the Hobo
3 months ago
Reply to  86-GL

I see, the way you worded it sounded like they were taking a different approach but yes it stands to reason the next Ridgeline may be based on the latest Pilot or Passport.

86-GL
86-GL
3 months ago
Reply to  Bob the Hobo

True. I was referring more to The Bishop’s methodology that Honda’s.

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
3 months ago
Reply to  86-GL

The number of people who bought a 3rd gen Pilot because they refused to be seen in a minivan infuriated me. Do you not see what this Pilot looks like?

10001010
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10001010
3 months ago

I know I’m the odd-man-out but I prefer the 1G Ridgeline’s styling, especially the sail panels. I also prefer the Santa Cruz’s styling to the Maverick’s. I looked at the Ridgeline briefly when I was needing a new car but 2 things put me off. It comes in FWD by default, which I know is fine for 99% of ppl but I’ve just never liked the way FWD cars drove. I know there’s an AWD option but cheese and crackers does that start to get expensive. For what a used Ridgeline goes for I could just get an old Tacoma.

great-LEX-great
great-LEX-great
3 months ago

Can’t agree with this one… It’s the price. People aren’t buying the Maverick because its a truck, they’re buying it because it’s a cheap lifestyle vehicle with great functionality. The Ridgeline’s price is the factor, not styling.

86-GL
86-GL
3 months ago

Price and fuel. The Ridgeline is just waaaay too close to fullsize truck pricing and fuel consumption, with too many compromises to be a mainstream competitor. A 2.7L F150 just does so much more for similar purchase cost & upkeep.

The Ridgeline’s niche is basically contrarian people who are deliberately shopping for a “truck that doesn’t look like a truck” and are okay making some serious value sacrifices in pursuit of that goal.

I generally agree regarding the Maverick, but I do think Ford hit the right balance with the styling. It’s not my favourite but it’s correct for the intended market.

Last edited 3 months ago by 86-GL
Hazdazos
Hazdazos
3 months ago

100%. It STARTS at $40.5k. In fact you go to build one on their site, and the price magically jumped to nearly $46k without even clicking on anything. WTF?

No thanks. I paid under $40k for my very lightly used 3rd gen Colorado and it has way more capabilities off-road. The Colorado can tow more and haul more for less money, with a fairly small hit in fuel economy.

Nick Fortes
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Nick Fortes
3 months ago

And if the new Ridgeline goes the route of the new Passport, you’ll be looking at a $55-60k truck. It seems its only going to go up in price

Ranwhenparked
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Ranwhenparked
3 months ago

I remember Honda making a big deal out of the new Ridgleline having a separate stamping for the bed sides, with a physical gap between the bed and cab

Although there are structural considerations behind it, the primary purpose was to make it look more “truck like” from the side, it didn’t strictly need a visually separate bed, but, along with ditching the sail panels, it made it look more conventional

Always thought it was weird that they’d spend so much time making the bed look right, then phone in the front end. Especially because the original Ridgeline came a lot closer to ideal, with the blockier Element/Pilot look up front. It’s like they just cant get the front and rear ends on the same page

Crimedog
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Crimedog
3 months ago

@thebishop I think this should be “sort”, not “soft”. Still a great article

“This ambitious project was based on the idea that buyers wanted to move from sedans, SUVs and minivans to a soft of “halfway house” pickup …”

G. K.
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G. K.
3 months ago

Given that the new Passport bears substantial differences from the Pilot, especially on the front fascia, I would expect the upcoming Ridgeline to do so as well.

86-GL
86-GL
3 months ago
Reply to  G. K.

Agreed. Any future Ridgeline will almost definitely follow the chunky, ruggedized aesthetic of the new Passport.

The 4th gen Pilot is already a big improvement, and should make a much better looking pickup than the 3rd gen.

Last edited 3 months ago by 86-GL
Mr. Stabby
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Mr. Stabby
3 months ago

They already tried butching it up once. I think it doesn’t help that it’s kind of expensive and that people who want a mid-sized truck will spend the same amount of money on a colorado or a ranger or a tacoma.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
3 months ago

Bringing back the Honda Element with that nosejob.

The rest of the styling, I’d rather it be less-trucklike.

Disphenoidal
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Disphenoidal
3 months ago

I would like to hear more about that Ford
minivan concept.

Bob the Hobo
Bob the Hobo
3 months ago
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G. K.
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G. K.
3 months ago
Reply to  Disphenoidal

The concept was the 1972 Ford Carousel, and the idea was commissioned by Lee Iacocca in order to create a “garageable family van.”

John Fischer
John Fischer
3 months ago

Just had one as a rental. Compared to my 2025 Tacoma (non-hybrid) the Ridgeline is an absolute dog. Had to bury the accelerator pedal to get it to move. Granted this was in Denver so altitude played some role but was really disappointed with the lack of power in this thing. The brakes were also weird, like 1st half of travel was soft and did basically nothing, but after that hold on! The brakes bit in with a vengeance in the 2nd half of travel.

It did ride smoother than my Taco, but that’s to be expected as it’s really a Pilot with a bed. MPG was about the same too.

SaveTheManuel's
SaveTheManuel's
3 months ago
Reply to  John Fischer

i have Pedal Commander on mine and it’s night and day. Almost undrivable without it

Bob the Hobo
Bob the Hobo
3 months ago

In hindsight, the Ridgeline should have been a compact instead of mid-size.

When the Ridgeline was introduced, it made sense to go mid-size since the small truck market was trending toward becoming larger. Honda banked on the Ridgeline’s disadvantages being overcome by the benefits of a unibody, but it was never enough to win over the hotly competitive mid-size segment.

No one predicted the compact truck market would be completely abandoned, but that left it open for Ford to get back into it with the Maverick with the only other option being the comparatively less appealing Santa Cruz. Now that unibody seems to be the name of the game for compact trucks, it seems Honda made the right bet on the wrong race.

It could still work out for them if they apply their research and engineering from the Ridgeline to something smaller, though I agree it should look more truck-like to avoid becoming another Santa Cruz.

Last edited 3 months ago by Bob the Hobo
4moremazdas
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4moremazdas
3 months ago

I like these changes and was bummed this was a short one from you. I’d like to see this with the full Bishop treatment.

Anyway, Honda has already applied more “truckness”, first by ditching the sail panels and adding a cab/bed separation line in 2017, then by making the front-end more upright in 2021.

It’s a bit unfortunate, because both of these changes came with practicality tradeoffs. The cab/bed separation is fake, and required a bunch of engineering to maintain the stiffness of the unibody there while still looking like there’s a gap.

And the 2021 changes (upright grille, knobbier looking tires, dual exhaust tips) actually reduce gas mileage by 1 mpg.

In the end, though, if I had a need for one I’d buy one with the upright grille. It really does look so much better.

Bob the Hobo
Bob the Hobo
3 months ago
Reply to  4moremazdas

It really is unfortunate the effort they put in the wrong places. The Maverick bed isn’t separate physically or visually, yet it nails the truck look just fine. I don’t think anyone is buying a Ridgeline for dual exhaust tips either.

Rippstik
Rippstik
3 months ago

If they were able to combine the looks of the new Passport with the blocki-ness of the back of the Ridgeline, it might be something!

Grey alien in a beige sedan
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Grey alien in a beige sedan
3 months ago

I mean, just drop it on a ladder frame and call it a day Honda.

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
3 months ago

I think the biggest issue is that the cheapest Ridgeline at my local dealer is 45k.

The first thing Honda could do to make the Ridgeline more exciting is to paint it a damn color. The same dealer has 5 of these in white, and 1 in gray. Honda has been pretty terrible about offering anything in a legit color lately. A few bright blue Civics notwithstanding.

StillNotATony
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StillNotATony
3 months ago

I live on a corner, and the guys across the street from me in both directions have current generation Ridgelines. One is black and the other is a nice burgundy. I like them both.

Taargus Taargus
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Taargus Taargus
3 months ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

The burgundy color is pretty nice (but no longer available). I just wonder why Honda seems so allergic to building more of the non-grayscale colors they claim to offer.

Looking at their website build option, and you can’t get the lowest trim in a color. The mid-trim RTL offers red. You have to go up to the Trailsport at 47k for the option to PAY for their khaki green color. Which is nice but like, Jesus Honda, is paying over 40k for the lower trims not enough to offer any color choice?

MrLM002
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MrLM002
3 months ago

Steel wheels, manual transmission.

Also stop making windows tinted from the factory, if we want them tinted we can have them tinted, at most they should be OPTIONAL!

Anonymous Person
Anonymous Person
3 months ago
Reply to  MrLM002

Steel wheels, manual transmission.
Also stop making windows tinted from the factory, if we want them tinted we can have them tinted, at most they should be OPTIONAL!

Also, stop making 4 doors the only option. If someone wants a 4-door, they can order one, but at most it should be OPTIONAL!

🙂

Bob the Hobo
Bob the Hobo
3 months ago

It’s cheaper to build one bodystyle than it is to build two. 4 doors sell more than 2 doors, so that’s the bodystyle they build.
Not to mention it’s more difficult to engineer a long bed unibody than a short bed one, so if a 2 door was made it would most likely be relatively short unless they gave it some ungainly looking cab supports not unlike the Chevy Avalanche or first gen Ridgeline’s sail panels.

Anonymous Person
Anonymous Person
3 months ago
Reply to  Bob the Hobo

A 6-foot bed would be just fine. I just don’t need or want a back seat or the additional doors.
Small cabs heat up quicker in the winters, too. 🙂

Bob the Hobo
Bob the Hobo
3 months ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if Ford does at least a 6 foot option for the Maverick, 2 door or not. The business case is there for it, but not so much for the Ridgeline (though that’s not to say I wouldn’t welcome it).

I don't hate manual transmissions
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I don't hate manual transmissions
3 months ago
Reply to  Bob the Hobo

If the Jeep/Stellantis folks are reading here, I’d love an extended cab Gladiator. I need a bigger bed and a bit of lockable interior storage, but I don’t need back seats.

Then again don’t listen to me – years ago when I was ready to upgrade from a Sport Trac, this wasn’t available. I upgraded to a full size. At this point, its replacement will have to be a full size too.

As for the Ridgeline, what’s the old saying? Day late and a dollar (or few thousand) too much?

Bob the Hobo
Bob the Hobo
3 months ago

Didn’t like any of the extended cabs from the other mid sizers available at the time?

I don't hate manual transmissions
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I don't hate manual transmissions
3 months ago
Reply to  Bob the Hobo

I did have a Ranger in the middle there, but I’d made the mistake of buying one (used, as Ford had discontinued it by then) that had the extended cab but not the extra doors. It had the 4.0 V6, and only got about 16 mpg.

The F-150 (also bought used) has the extended cab with rear doors, so it’s much easier to get stuff in and out. In a pinch it can seat six. It’s got a V8, gets the same or better mileage than the Ranger did, plus it can tow over 11,000 lbs.

Now we have a 28′ camper and a 20′ flatbed trailer with dual 7,000 lb axles, so a midsize is off the table.

Had an extended cab Gladiator been available at the time, we’d have gone with a smaller camper (I don’t like towing the 28 footer, so we had it parked at a lake for a season – the 22 footer is much easier to tow) and a much lighter duty trailer.

Bob the Hobo
Bob the Hobo
3 months ago

Fair enough. The difference in fuel efficiency between mid-size and full-size trucks is still too little. Automakers have made it hard to justify a mid size truck when the only meaningful advantage they give them is to take up less space. Almost every other consideration makes them a worse version of a full size.

Eggsalad
Eggsalad
3 months ago

I think it’s a split market. Some folks want the utility of a truck without the “truckiness” and other folks don’t care how useful it is as long as it looks like a truck.

The folks who confuse me are the ones that put a camper shell/cap on a Ridgeline. Why not just buy the SUV?

[side note: I think that in the 2nd paragraph, you meant to write “Santa Cruz” and not “Santa Fe”.]

Littlebag
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Littlebag
3 months ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

Wet dogs and my cycling shoes that always smell awful no matter what I do to them are the top 2 reasons for a cap.

Dan1101
Dan1101
3 months ago

Your Ridgeline changes are really good. Honda already fixed one of the biggest problems by squaring off where the bed meets the back of the cab. I never liked that sloped piece on the Chevy Avalanche either. It doesn’t really do anything except get in the way of a the back corners of the bed.

The Maverick is awesome. With 4 doors, a truck bed, reasonable but sufficient size, and decent power and features it’s probably the most overall utilitarian vehicle for sale right now. I’ve always wanted a 2-door version of the Maverick but I’d happily settle for them being 25% cheaper, even the used ones sell for almost as much as a new one.

ILikeBigBolts
ILikeBigBolts
3 months ago
Reply to  Dan1101

I think it’s interesting that the sail panel returned on the GMC / Chevy EV trucks.

The Maverick is great – but the backseat’s a little little.
The Ridgeline is great – the backseat’s awesome – but the fuel economy is surprisingly low (to me, anyway) and it’s still a bit too long for the garage.

Last edited 3 months ago by ILikeBigBolts
Jim Zavist
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Jim Zavist
3 months ago

Doing a joint venture with Stelantis and rebranding it as a RAM would also increase its truckiness while exposing it to a different market.

Emil Minty
Emil Minty
3 months ago
Reply to  Jim Zavist

Or GM. They’re already working together on EVs.

Bring back the Avalanche name.

Mikkeli
Mikkeli
3 months ago

removing the fold/lines across the side does 90% of the job

4jim
4jim
3 months ago

“4 door” unibody is important as “unibody truck” make me think of the VW rabbit truck and Jeep Comanche.

Rebadged Asüna Sunrunner
Rebadged Asüna Sunrunner
3 months ago

But if the Nissan Titan taught us anything…

Andrew Daisuke
Andrew Daisuke
3 months ago

I specifically bought my ’19 Ridgeline because I wanted some truck bed cargo, four doors, and a nice ride.

I love that it doesn’t scream bro bro bro I’m a manly truck, look at my truckness!

Every time I see some faux kitted out Tacoma I’m reminded that I made the right choice.

Dan1101
Dan1101
3 months ago
Reply to  Andrew Daisuke

You know the Carolina squat thing where they lower the rear way down and jack up the front? The new hotness around here is doing that with Toyota 4-Runners. I don’t understand half the people.

Littlebag
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Littlebag
3 months ago
Reply to  Dan1101

I try not to judge how other people enjoy their autos, but…

Dan1101
Dan1101
3 months ago
Reply to  Littlebag

It not only looks stupid but it is arguably a safety issue, greatly restricts forward visibility.

RC
RC
3 months ago
Reply to  Dan1101

Nah, it’s 100% acceptable to judge any of the following:

  • Carolina Squat. I just assume you ate lead point, buy wheels and TV’s on finance, and/or abuse at least one kind of drugs in addition to whippits
  • People who lift their trucks and put wider or taller tires on and then remove the fenders. Same kind of people who leave campfires burning and hoon SxS’s
  • Fart tips on WRX’s or Hondas. Probably doesn’t have insurance.
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